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Hey,
So sorry for what probably seems like a dumb question. I'm usually a Vibrant guy, but I'm helping a buddy out with a G2/looking at the feasibility of getting one myself. I know at least for the Vibrant our normal kernels don't play nice with our version of CyanogenMod 7. I was curious if the same held true here? Or can I flash any kernel? Also, I see that there are different types based on the type of ROM, which is a new thing to a Vibrant owner. So can anyone recommend me a kernel? I'm pretty decent on flashing and all that, and recovering a brick (at least with my Vibrant). Basically I want the best bottom-line performance. I don't need extra bells and whistles, just a nice high clock frequency. Thanks!
-MN_Vibrant
MN_Vibrant said:
Hey,
So sorry for what probably seems like a dumb question. I'm usually a Vibrant guy, but I'm helping a buddy out with a G2/looking at the feasibility of getting one myself. I know at least for the Vibrant our normal kernels don't play nice with our version of CyanogenMod 7. I was curious if the same held true here? Or can I flash any kernel? Also, I see that there are different types based on the type of ROM, which is a new thing to a Vibrant owner. So can anyone recommend me a kernel? I'm pretty decent on flashing and all that, and recovering a brick (at least with my Vibrant). Basically I want the best bottom-line performance. I don't need extra bells and whistles, just a nice high clock frequency. Thanks!
-MN_Vibrant
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If you're looking for a kernel for CM7, the kernel included is quite snappy though I personally run pershoot's kernel as he undervolts and has some other tweaks which improves responsiveness *and* battery life, at least for me.
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CM7 already comes with its own custom kernel (which also supports some overclocking), so no need to flash a separate kernel if you don't want to. But as already mentioned, pershoot's works well too.
You can't flash any kernel. Some are Sense specific, and some are for non-Sense ROMs. Flashing the wrong one for your ROM can apparently brick the phone, so read thru the threads for the ROM and kernel you are interested in, to be sure. The ROM developer will usually have kernel recommendations, or you can see what kernels users of that ROM have tried.
Like stated above you will need to read the instructions and notes on the kernel thread. CM7 has special requirements. Other Roms don't need. but be very careful on what you flash!
hi,
i'm new to the nexus since i just bricked my sgs2 with siyah kernel (korean sources have been used and bricked a lotta devices on updating the kernel)
now i'm totally overwhelmed with the list of availlable kernels and roms...
can someone please tell me just like 1 or 2 go to roms and kernels so i can start with something not too buggy i already started to read through the threads but its really alot coming from sgs2 world...
i just need something where i can undervolt a little and have mostly true ics experience (maybe with some tweaks).
i read that francone rom is used by alotta people but then i read that they dont recommend it because of lag...
thanks for the help won't bother with n00b questions after that anymore
pmcee said:
hi,
i'm new to the nexus since i just bricked my sgs2 with siyah kernel (korean sources have been used and bricked a lotta devices on updating the kernel)
now i'm totally overwhelmed with the list of availlable kernels and roms...
can someone please tell me just like 1 or 2 go to roms and kernels so i can start with something not too buggy i already started to read through the threads but its really alot coming from sgs2 world...
i just need something where i can undervolt a little and have mostly true ics experience (maybe with some tweaks).
i read that francone rom is used by alotta people but then i read that they dont recommend it because of lag...
thanks for the help won't bother with n00b questions after that anymore
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ICS Slim + Latest leankernel is the best!
jesongaudan said:
ICS Slim + Latest leankernel is the best!
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Can you point out why or what u like about the rom?
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Everyone that answers this thread will give their version/opinion on what is the "best" and all of them will be right to some degree or another. Nearly all combinations of roms/kernels mix to something that feels slightly different in some way. Personally, I have played with 4 ROMs (AOKP, AOSP, Slim and BAMF) and 2 kernels and loved most of them. Once you root your phone, it is VERY easy to experiment and decide for yourself. Play a little.
If you want speed, download a benchmark tester and put combinations to the test. If you want customizations, nearly all roms which have threads that post 20+ msgs /day have customizations that 1/2 of us will never use.
The best answer nearly anyone can give you is to experiment and try it out. It becomes fun after a while to just try and see.
My biggest recommendations to you are these:
<1> Always NANDROID backup before you try something new.
<2> Check the MD5 sums, they are there for a reason. If a sum is different you likely will encounter bugs of some sort. Especially radios! ( I can't stress this enough. A bad radio is 1-step away from a bricked, unusable phone )
<3> Have google backup your apps or learn to use Titanium backup.
<4> If you have a setup you really like that includes a theme - dont be quick to jump to a new version of a rom until you are sure that there is a theme to get you back to where you want afterwards. Nothing is more annoying than ( for example for me ) loading up a beautiful new version and having to deal with blaring white widgets you can't invert or theme.
<5> Read a little on a rom/kernel before jumping aboard. You will get a feel from the users what's good and what's bad about it.
All the above said, if you are a cowboy and just want to jump on and try things - caution to the wind:
My personal preferences:
Liquidsmooth/Franco Nightly 512
AOKP/nearly any kernel ( my first week of playing, I flashed a new one daily to "play")
SlimICS/Lean
That order.
Aokp is the go to rom most people start with. Then expand from there if you aren't satisfied.
I agree with AOKP. I actually did everything in reverse. I started with radios, almost bricked, then went with SLIM, GUMMY, and ended up on AOKP. I like AOKP a lot. Plenty of customization, great battery life (with profiles from SetCPU), easy to learn and all wrapped up in one nice package.
I may play with alternate kernals and radios later, but not until I have more information and experience.
Liquid + lean kernel expeiremental + leantweaks + uglc1 + root .
just my 2cs
It's your choice. We can only tell you, what we think is "cool".
Make a NanD backup, download a couple of ROMs, flash them. Give them a test run, find the ROM you like, then do the same with the kernel
As you asked us: I personally think, that Jack Pham is a good ROM, I'd recommend it to everyone, and my current kernel is : Imoseyon 3.0.29 I can overclock my phone to 1.65 GHz I'm gonna update my sig, in a mo
Rather than recommend a specific ROM; I'll ask what is it you're after aside from what you'd mentioned?
If you want stability, full functionality of expected components, with some cutomizability, then you'll want a ROM with a shorter feature list.
If you're willing to trade of stability to an extent, and accept that everything may not work as expected, then go for a ROM with a massive feature list, and endless customization.
The above are generalizations, but hold true for the most part, with a 4% margin of error 98% of the time.
Each scenario has its trade offs. For the most part there are 2 schools of thought on ROM building for these phones, and 2 schools of thought for what users expect.
AOKP and stable LeanKernel for me. Great battery life, smooth performance. 5 hours with screen on. (I'm CDMA though)
Faux123 recently posted a thread releasing his custom kernel for the N1, but for a not-so mobile/linux savvy person like myself I don't have a great deal of knowledge on kernels, or what it adds/does.
What are the advantages or even disadvantages of using a custom kernel, like Faux? Does it save battery, or does it allow for overclocking? Like, what are the capabilities of using custom kernels over stock?
I'm currently on CM11 nightlies.
Any information is appreciated, and thanks in advance!
First I would read the changelog linked in the thread. Then after reading through, you should Google what each item means if you aren't familiar with it (A lot of them are noted as to what they do).
I would not suggest flashing a custom kernel if you aren't sure about how it can help your phone, and what risks you might be facing.
Always research before flashing something new, especially a kernel. :highfive:
Harfainx said:
First I would read the changelog linked in the thread. Then after reading through, you should Google what each item means if you aren't familiar with it (A lot of them are noted as to what they do).
I would not suggest flashing a custom kernel if you aren't sure about how it can help your phone, and what risks you might be facing.
Always research before flashing something new, especially a kernel. :highfive:
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Yeah I wouldn't flash something unless I know what it did. On my previous phone (HTC Sensation) I had a few custom kernels flashed with the ROMs i used but other than that I have no experience with kernels.
I have read the changelog, and I can see what most of the items do, but specifically I have no idea. Reading through there are options to overclock/change voltage and increase or decrease battery life depending on profiles and governors used.
Overall I was wondering if it is worth flashing for a medium user. I'm not a developer, but i'm also not an avid mobile gamer. I mainly use internet, social apps and SMS, but don't like slowing of devices. Would the custom kernel be able to prolong battery life (or give other great advantages) while still maintaining the extremely fast response that N1 has already?
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Overall I was wondering if it is worth flashing for a medium user. I'm not a developer, but i'm also not an avid mobile gamer. I mainly use internet, social apps and SMS, but don't like slowing of devices. Would the custom kernel be able to prolong battery life (or give other great advantages) while still maintaining the extremely fast response that N1 has already?
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You might get some battery life improvements by changing some voltages to decrease the power used. It shouldn't impact the performance if it's a mild change.
hey guys, i was wondering whats a stable kernel for the S3Rx 3.0 TouchWiz 4.3 rom, with good battery life. and what governor do yall prefer with this rom. thanks!
deadhead710 said:
hey guys, i was wondering whats a stable kernel for the S3Rx 3.0 TouchWiz 4.3 rom, with good battery life. and what governor do yall prefer with this rom. thanks!
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Try out Ktoonsez kernel. It seems to be the go-to kernel for TW and AOSP ROMs on our S3s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871946
For governor; Ive had great success with OnDemand as well as Interactive. Good luck!
In the end, this is going to be much like the "whats the best rom" questions. Just like the roms, there is a ton of information about the most popular kernels that you will have to read in order to make an informed choice. Everyone has different needs/desires so just like roms, whats best for me or many other people may be opposite from what would be best for you. No one but you knows your usage patterns to base a decision on.
Regarding kernels and their governors, and other options, there is a lot to read and learn, which I do understand can be a bit intimidating. But if you really are after the best choice for your needs the only way to figure it out is to read, read, read. If you just follow what a few others recommend, theres a good chance you wont be getting what is best for you.
So in short, read each of the top kernels OP's, read up on the different governors, and pick one to test if it works as you expect. Try out several configurations to know for sure what you like the most.
If you have specific questions, by all means ask away! In fact, theres a thread in this subforum dedicated to ktoonsez' kernels, and even if you dont choose to use one, it could be a great place to search for more info. Just remember, other peoples opinions can give you a good place to start from, but will usually not be an ideal way to decide where you should end up.
I know this is not the answer you were looking for, but imo, there is just no way to adequately give one. For every kernel/rom combo, there will be some who rave about it and some who warn against it! Only one way to know which it will be for you!
SSL! I do wish you good luck though! And fun!
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Doc is 100% right. That's like asking what the best breed of dog is.
I can tell you what I use though.
Ktoonsez 747 with no options set except conservative governor.
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Questions go in Q&A (Thread moved)
"Best" ROM/Kernel threads are meaningless as it depends on YOUR usage/phone/apps/setup/syncs/signal/preferences
Therefore they are not allowed (thread closed)
*If a good thread already exists about this, please link it.*
Hey Peeps!
I have probably tried all ROM's (Sense & Stock) on my aging M8, and the only ROM that comes with good battery life is ARHD. But, as we all know, it has its weaknesses.
Waiting for responses from you guys!
We do not compare ROM's that has the greatest etc. The best way to find it out is to try each ROM which fits you.
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There is no such thing as a ROM with "best battery life" that applies to everyone, in every situation. There are simply too many variable on how different folks use their phones (what apps, screen on time, etc.) your local reception, whether on LTE or 3g, WiFi, Bluetooth in use, etc. etc. etc.
Folks have very different experiences for each ROM. Seriously, I've seen some ROMs where I can get 2 days of light usage, where others on the same ROM will say battery life sucks and only lasts a few hours.
You need to use trial and error, and use what ROM works best for you. There are no shortcuts to that process.
XDA changed their rules some time ago to allow comparison threads as long as they dont turn into a flame war. Please keep this thread civil and respect everyone opinion.
Thanks
Wolf
redpoint73 said:
There is no such thing as a ROM with "best battery life" that applies to everyone, in every situation. There are simply too many variable on how different folks use their phones (what apps, screen on time, etc.) your local reception, whether on LTE or 3g, WiFi, Bluetooth in use, etc. etc. etc.
Folks have very different experiences for each ROM. Seriously, I've seen some ROMs where I can get 2 days of light usage, where others on the same ROM will say battery life sucks and only lasts a few hours.
You need to use trial and error, and use what ROM works best for you. There are no shortcuts to that process.
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what type of effect does it exist on kernel with battery life?
what are the good & bad things of custom kernel? and also can kernel affect on radio?
umesh.lk said:
what type of effect does it exist on kernel with battery life?
what are the good & bad things of custom kernel? and also can kernel affect on radio?
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I'm not that knowledgeable about kernels, and in particular don't mess much with custom kernels.
But what I would say, is that those questions aren't any more answerable then the previous points about custom ROM vs. battery life. Overclocking and undervolting allowed by custom kernels, as well as the choice of governors (which provide various balances of performance versus power usage) will all have some affect on battery life. But the experience is going to vary greatly from one user to another.
Similar to trying custom ROMs, just make a TWRP backup before flashing anything; try some custom kernels, or tweaking kernel settings; and see if the results are desirable to you.
The only real "bad" thing about custom kernels, is that some settings may result in instability, boot loops or no boot. But as long as you make a TWRP backup (before flashing kernels or changing kernel settings), you can easily recover from any such problems.
You also may or may not get the performance or battery life you are looking for, from custom kernels. Which is the main reason I've not been one to personally mess with custom kernels too much. With what kernel tweaking I did on other devices, I never saw a significant performance difference. And certainly not enough to warrant the hassles of system crashes and no boots I was getting.
But others will swear by custom kernels, different governors, etc. Again, your results can and will vary. So that is why its best to try for yourself; and not take another's advice as gospel.
Viper rom is quite good.