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Can I use T-Mobile Galaxy S II on AT&T by flashing the AT&T Kernel?

I'm asking if this is possible as I was able to use my T-Mobile Galaxy Tab 7 on AT&T by doing the same. Thanks

I don't think you have to flash kernel to use this phone in Att network. The phone does support Att 3G bands(in most areas) in hardware. Flashing att kernel may brick.

JoJo2211 said:
I'm asking if this is possible as I was able to use my T-Mobile Galaxy Tab 7 on AT&T by doing the same. Thanks
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At most you would want to flash an AT&T Radio not a Kernel, your phone will not work right with a AT&T kernel ...
Search around there have been some discussions on the Radios, I think , I may be wrong, but people were having success with the Rogers radio ...
But as the other poster said, it will work on the AT&T 3G bands anyway, after you sim unlock it ...

just flash an att radio. Oh ps: skyrocket Kernel will not brick your phone.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

JoJo2211 said:
I'm asking if this is possible as I was able to use my T-Mobile Galaxy Tab 7 on AT&T by doing the same. Thanks
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I think all you need to do is get an unlock code and you'll be good to go.

As mentioned before, the phone supports AT&T 3G bands from the get go. I'm using my Skyrocket on AWS HSPA+ as well, both the Hercules and Skyrocket support each others networks (at least 3g in the case of Hercules)

Why not just get the AT&T model? It IS better...

Flashing att kernel will absolutely not brick your phone. It will be completely functional after turning off auto rotation.
Sent from my Skyrocket using XDA App

Thanks guys, is there a way to Unlock the phone using a free method? If not do you suggest I flash a rogers or skyrocket radio and get the t989 working on at&t?
BTW, i'm using this phone because I got it for really cheap off of craigslist(200)

JoJo2211 said:
Thanks guys, is there a way to Unlock the phone using a free method? If not do you suggest I flash a rogers or skyrocket radio and get the t989 working on at&t?
BTW, i'm using this phone because I got it for really cheap off of craigslist(200)
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You don't need to flash any of the radios, it'll work out of the box once you unlock it

Is there a free unlock available anywhere? I tried Galaxy S unlock on the market but I get an error every time i run step 1. I'm rooted with busybox installed. Thanks

The Galaxy S unlock app doesn't work for this phone at the moment. Some Devs are working on finding the unlock key location though.

JoJo2211 said:
...really cheap off of craigslist...
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Possibly related: I've no idea if At&T and T-mob share banned IMEI lists. Anybody know?

2hvy4grvty said:
Why not just get the AT&T model? It IS better...
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The two phones are identical genius.

PJcastaldo said:
The two phones are identical genius.
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Not to be pedantic, but... you might want to be a bit careful about calling people 'genius' - unless it's possible for two phones that have different external dimensions, different sized screens, different processors, and a few other things... to still be identical.
SGS2 T-mobile specs
SGS2 AT&T specs
both links are from the Samsung US site.
For that matter, flip the two phones over and look at them. The T-Mob back cover covers the entire back and the flash is below the camera, The AT&T (and international?) version's back cover doesn't cover the whole back and the flash is to the side of the camera.
I'm also pretty sure our version should be just a hair faster (1.5 GHz, Dual Core (Qualcomm Snapdragon S3) vs 1.2 GHz, Dual Core (Samsung Exnyos C210) ).
To be fair, I'm not 100% sure I can compare Snapdragon 1.5GHz to Exnyos 1.2GHz, but I think that's legit as both run the same instruction set, probably have similar pipelining, etc.
BTW, PJC: how is the at&t model better? From the spec, I get that it's a bit lighter (13g), and probably has better battery life as it's driving a bit smaller screen. Anything else?

bobkoure said:
Not to be pedantic, but... you might want to be a bit careful about calling people 'genius' - unless it's possible for two phones that have different external dimensions, different sized screens, different processors, and a few other things... to still be identical.
SGS2 T-mobile specs
SGS2 AT&T specs
both links are from the Samsung US site.
For that matter, flip the two phones over and look at them. The T-Mob back cover covers the entire back and the flash is below the camera, The AT&T (and international?) version's back cover doesn't cover the whole back and the flash is to the side of the camera.
I'm also pretty sure our version should be just a hair faster (1.5 GHz, Dual Core (Qualcomm Snapdragon S3) vs 1.2 GHz, Dual Core (Samsung Exnyos C210) ).
To be fair, I'm not 100% sure I can compare Snapdragon 1.5GHz to Exnyos 1.2GHz, but I think that's legit as both run the same instruction set, probably have similar pipelining, etc.
BTW, PJC: how is the at&t model better? From the spec, I get that it's a bit lighter (13g), and probably has better battery life as it's driving a bit smaller screen. Anything else?
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Wow, Im really LOLing atm. You are comparing the other ATT GS2, not the skyrocket. You better research and know what hes talking about first and not just posting random stuff.

Maybe my new thread can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495920
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417095

bobkoure said:
Possibly related: I've no idea if At&T and T-mob share banned IMEI lists. Anybody know?
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It doesn't have banned IMEI. I got a great deal. I actually bought two phones, HTC Amaze and GSII, , both clean IMEI, for 400 altogether. I sold off the Amaze for 435. LOL

bobkoure said:
Possibly related: I've no idea if At&T and T-mob share banned IMEI lists. Anybody know?
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no they do not, banned t-mobile phones are banned for their carrier only so you can use it on att and vice versa
bobkoure said:
Not to be pedantic, but... you might want to be a bit careful about calling people 'genius' - unless it's possible for two phones that have different external dimensions, different sized screens, different processors, and a few other things... to still be identical.
SGS2 T-mobile specs
SGS2 AT&T specs
both links are from the Samsung US site.
For that matter, flip the two phones over and look at them. The T-Mob back cover covers the entire back and the flash is below the camera, The AT&T (and international?) version's back cover doesn't cover the whole back and the flash is to the side of the camera.
I'm also pretty sure our version should be just a hair faster (1.5 GHz, Dual Core (Qualcomm Snapdragon S3) vs 1.2 GHz, Dual Core (Samsung Exnyos C210) ).
To be fair, I'm not 100% sure I can compare Snapdragon 1.5GHz to Exnyos 1.2GHz, but I think that's legit as both run the same instruction set, probably have similar pipelining, etc.
BTW, PJC: how is the at&t model better? From the spec, I get that it's a bit lighter (13g), and probably has better battery life as it's driving a bit smaller screen. Anything else?
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lol wut? genius
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JoJo2211 said:
It doesn't have banned IMEI. I got a great deal. I actually bought two phones, HTC Amaze and GSII, , both clean IMEI, for 400 altogether. I sold off the Amaze for 435. LOL
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you got a really good deal off of it but you don't have to keep posting it over and over.

The two phones are virtually identical , but I will qualify that ..
T-Mobile t989 has a slightly larger screen .02" to be exact and a little different form factor , and a slightly larger battery ..
Both have the same CPU, but different chipsets, if what my research shows is correct, the AT&T i727 has the radio included in the CPU chipset, where the TMO t989 has a separate radio chip ...
The t989 has no LTE specific hardware, although theoretically can achieve the same speeds ...
So they are almost , the same phone ...
The one difference that I can neither confirm or deny, is everywhere I look Gorilla Glass is always talked about on the t989 , but is not mentioned in the i727 , and least from the sources I trust, but personally I would not think it would not have it ...
Some people have reported better AT&T usage using the Rogers radio, but the stock radio will work on the AT&T 3g network ...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_t989-4129.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_skyrocket_i727-4303.php
EDIT: a Skyrocket kernel will not brick your phone just as others say, but autorotation will be flipped, and there have been "other" things reported, but certainly will not brick, unless you do it wrong ...

Verizon vs. ATT: Is OTA Support the Same?

Hey guys, I currently own a Nexus S 4g on sprint and I'm really considering jumping ship due to the ****ty data speeds, pulled premier program and lack of official CDMA Nexus S support.
My question is this: Is there a similar issue with the CDMA GNex on Verizon? Is it too early to tell?
I desperately want 4g considering the coverage is great in my area, but I'd be willing to trade that to not deal with the same bull**** that my Nexus S on sprint forces me to deal with.
TL;DR Version: Does Verizon GNex have full OTA and Rom support compared to the GSM Unlocked Version on AT&T's network?

Verizon OTAs will be behind GSM generally, but not a discernible amount. The basic thing to know here is that Verizon's CDMA and LTE network stacks are proprietary (closed source) and they have to add it and test it before putting an OTA out. This doesn't have to happen on the GSM model as its standardized and open source.
ROM community should still be pretty strong for the VZW version. But when it comes down to it the base of users using the GSM model around the world is probably larger (and its the official dev phone). There will surely be good community support of both versions.
Thing is that if you care about OTAs you probably don't care about ROMs, and vice versa. Kinda gotta tell us what you care about more. But luckily with the Nexus you'll stay pretty up to date without rooting and ROMing.
The amount of data you will use is 100% based on your usage patterns. Don't let someone else's usage give you an idea of how much you'll use. That's something you should be able to figure out based on your previous usage.
And by the way, there is no AT&T version of this phone. There is the unlocked GSM version, which works on any GSM carrier in the world. The OTAs on that model have nothing to do with what carrier you're currently using (only on the variant of regional software/radio you may or may not have).

martonikaj said:
Verizon OTAs will be behind GSM generally, but not a discernible amount. The basic thing to know here is that Verizon's CDMA and LTE network stacks are proprietary (closed source) and they have to add it and test it before putting an OTA out. This doesn't have to happen on the GSM model as its standardized and open source.
ROM community should still be pretty strong for the VZW version. But when it comes down to it the base of users using the GSM model around the world is probably larger (and its the official dev phone). There will surely be good community support of both versions.
The amount of data you will use is 100% based on your usage patterns. Don't let someone else's usage give you an idea of how much you'll use. That's something you should be able to figure out based on your previous usage.
And by the way, there is no AT&T version of this phone. There is the unlocked GSM version, which works on any GSM carrier in the world. The OTAs on that model have nothing to do with what carrier you're currently using (only on the variant of regional software/radio you may or may not have).
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Thanks for the response and the clarification about the unlocked GSM version. In your opinion, do you think the official dev support/larger user base is worth the slower data speeds and ****tier customer service?

supralover72 said:
Thanks for the response and the clarification about the unlocked GSM version. In your opinion, do you think the official dev support/larger user base is worth the slower data speeds and ****tier customer service?
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Well the data speeds aren't just slower with no benefit. HSPA+ does severely better on battery than LTE does. But the speeds are still very serviceable. IMHO 10mbps is still plenty fast lol.
You also get the benefit of choosing your own carrier. If you're on AT&T or T-Mobile you'll get the same customer service for network issues, you just won't get hardware customer service. With GSM you get to choose any carrier and stay off contract and potentially save a TON of money every month if you decide to go that route. You probably have about 12 carriers to choose from when looking at all the GSM offerings in the US. When you buy the VZW Galaxy Nexus, you're going to be paying Verizon every month for the rest of the time you use that device, and that's it.
This is a much larger question that has been battled in 100's of pages of flaming between VZW and other GSM users. You should read up on those but when it comes down to it just understand that there are pros and cons to both that you should weigh when choosing. As I said you have to decide what's important to you.

martonikaj said:
Well the data speeds aren't just slower with no benefit. HSPA+ does severely better on battery than LTE does. But the speeds are still very serviceable. IMHO 10mbps is still plenty fast lol.
You also get the benefit of choosing your own carrier. If you're on AT&T or T-Mobile you'll get the same customer service for network issues, you just won't get hardware customer service. With GSM you get to choose any carrier and stay off contract and potentially save a TON of money every month if you decide to go that route. You probably have about 12 carriers to choose from when looking at all the GSM offerings in the US.
This is a much larger question that has been battled in 100's of pages of flaming between VZW and other GSM users. You should read up on those but when it comes down to it just understand that there are pros and cons to both that you should weigh when choosing.
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Thanks a bunch for the help and for being polite. I'll do some searching and read up on that for sure. Sounds like HSPA+ ain't half bad...

supralover72 said:
Thanks a bunch for the help and for being polite. I'll do some searching and read up on that for sure. Sounds like HSPA+ ain't half bad...
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The GSM version isn't a 2nd class citizen to the LTE version. Not by a long shot. You shouldn't feel like you're getting the short end of the stick going GSM. Its a world class device.

martonikaj said:
The GSM version isn't a 2nd class citizen to the LTE version. Not by a long shot. You shouldn't feel like you're getting the short end of the stick going GSM. Its a world class device.
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After looking at some of these no contract prices and considering I can have my Brother's employee edition GSM GNex for free this is looking like the option for me.

supralover72 said:
After looking at some of these no contract prices and considering I can have my Brother's employee edition GSM GNex for free this is looking like the option for me.
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You should read through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014

Only 16 gigs of memory in the GSM version is something to think about with no memory card slot...

martonikaj said:
You should read through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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Awesome reading it now. Thanks.
@eman: Not an issue, my nexus s has 16gb so I'm used to consolidating. Thanks for the heads up though.

supralover72 said:
Awesome reading it now. Thanks.
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Yeah no problem its an awesome thread.
I'm personally using my unlocked i9250 on $30 T-Mobile plan and its working fantastically.

martonikaj said:
Yeah no problem its an awesome thread.
I'm personally using my unlocked i9250 on $30 T-Mobile plan and its working fantastically.
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Yea I couldn't believe that plan. Seemed too good to be true till I read people actually using it.
It must do wonders for the hearing impaired.

supralover72 said:
Yea I couldn't believe that plan. Seemed too good to be true till I read people actually using it.
It must do wonders for the hearing impaired.
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Its a pretty amazing plan really. Best deal in wireless in the US today IMHO.

T- Mobile Branded Galaxy Note II Compared to N7100 (I bought both Returning T-Mobile)

Hi guys!
Okay so more rather to cater to my burning curiosity of how the T-Mobile Varient would do with HSPA+ 42 and the 1700/2100 I went down this morning grabbed a white version and came home and did some test. And here's what I've found.
#1) The T-Mobile Variant of the Note 2 is Made in CHINA! While the N7100 is made in Korea
#2) The T-Mobile Variant had worse download speeds where I live and testing the HSPA+ speeds in my house resulted in the unlocked N7100 beating it on the 1900mhz band. (Keep in mind I only get HSPA+ On t-Mobile near my house all other are's that were tested I have edge on the N7100 they are still refarming.
#3) So I took it upon myself to see is the T-Mobile branded version actually faster? I drove around for about 10-20 miles stopping in different area's and testing, The highest I've Gotten with it was 15mbps down. However I was not able to compare it to the N7100 in the same exact location because that area is not yet refarmed. However Comparing it side by side the N7100 at home the N7100 had the edge in download speeds which was funny to me.
Besides that fact, the N7100 is fully unlocked and no bs from T-mobile on it and the instant I used the T-Mobile version I wanted the N7100 back. So Moral of the story for me was that is it worth getting the T-Mobile version? If your on the Re farmed network I'd say no get the N7100 instead no bloatware faster updates, Speeds won't vary much, and You can tether devices without rooting!

Good to hear others thinking along these same lines. Guess it really depends on whether tour city is being refarmed.
I live in Memphis, and I've heard rumors that we're getting / already have the 1900 band. Guess I might need to find a good way to test before hand.
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Nyxagamemnon said:
Hi guys!
Okay so more rather to cater to my burning curiosity of how the T-Mobile Varient would do with HSPA+ 42 and the 1700/2100 I went down this morning grabbed a white version and came home and did some test. And here's what I've found.
#1) The T-Mobile Variant of the Note 2 is Made in CHINA! While the N7100 is made in Korea
#2) The T-Mobile Variant had worse download speeds where I live and testing the HSPA+ speeds in my house resulted in the unlocked N7100 beating it on the 1900mhz band. (Keep in mind I only get HSPA+ On t-Mobile near my house all other are's that were tested I have edge on the N7100 they are still refarming.
#3) So I took it upon myself to see is the T-Mobile branded version actually faster? I drove around for about 10-20 miles stopping in different area's and testing, The highest I've Gotten with it was 15mbps down. However I was not able to compare it to the N7100 in the same exact location because that area is not yet refarmed. However Comparing it side by side the N7100 at home the N7100 had the edge in download speeds which was funny to me.
Besides that fact, the N7100 is fully unlocked and no bs from T-mobile on it and the instant I used the T-Mobile version I wanted the N7100 back. So Moral of the story for me was that is it worth getting the T-Mobile version? If your on the Re farmed network I'd say no get the N7100 instead no bloatware faster updates, Speeds won't vary much, and You can tether devices without rooting!
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So would you be able to tell me if the T-mo Note and the N7100 are exact the same dimensions/shape. I want to buy a case for the T-mo version but I think all the ones on ebay are for the N7100. Maybe you can switch out battery covers to see if they fit. Thanks!

I too was sitting on the fence on whether to pick the the N7100 or T-mobile's handset. I eventually chose the latter for the following reasons. It may not necessarily apply to everyone. I'm not an engineer so I don't know much about technical details but I am very logical in understanding how things work:
1) Tmo has done a fairly good job on refarming the 1900 band for hspa+ and true enough you will get speeds >10mbps. I previously tested this service on an international SGS2 and international GN1. And that was using a prepaid sim. So clearly international versions of samsung will have hspa+ service IF there is coverage. However as to date, we still have to see consistent and widespread coverage of hspa+ on the 1900 band. Who's to say that by year's end the refarming would have been completed to a satisfactory level as promised by T-mobile? What if coverage would still be practically the same in YOUR area? What if completion simply means additional cities/towns but your area basically has already been refarmed to completion. I feel that will be the case with MY area. It's still really "wait and see" for the refarming project. While with the t-mo variant you get consistent hspa+ ALREADY, NOW and greater coverage simply because they have been designed to work with the existing hspa+ AWS bands of Tmo. 1900 hspa+ is just additional for the Tmo variant.
In my case, I use my home wifi. So that situation negates the 4G coverage comparison between the 2 .
I'm curious as to what your home speed differences were? Was it that significant to outweigh the benefit of more consistent hspa+ coverage outside your home? I understand your mobile tests showed Tmo's variant to be the winner by "default". Meaning N7100 didn't have a chance to even compete. That alone is enough for me to chose Tmo's.
2) N7100 has a 21mbps hspa+ radio. Tmo's variant has a 42mbps radio. Although I am not seeing speeds proportionate to the advertised 42mbps radio in my area. I believe some folks around the US have demonstrated 20-30mbps on Tmo's network. Just scourge the net for those blogs and anecdotes. Obviously the 42mbps radio is required for those speeds. I guess it will all depend on the location and if 42mbps hspa+ is enforced on the surrounding towers.
3) re: bloatware - They don't bother me much. However for the tinkerers out there, this may be a deal breaker. But I am certain there is always a way around this for the advanced users.
4) N7100 doesn't have an LTE radio. Tmo's variant potential has this feature. That adds a little future proofing value to it. Check engadget's latest review of Tmo's variant. To quote:
"Also, according to the T889's FCC application, the device includes support for LTE bands 4 (AWS) and 17, though this particular set of radios is currently locked on T-Mobile. We're hoping the AWS LTE band will be enabled for us as soon as the network is ready to push ahead with its next-gen technology, but we haven't heard any official word from Magenta about this. Regardless of what happens, we wouldn't put it past hackers Android programming aficionados to come up with a way of taking advantage of this."
Regardless, by the time LTE would be fully and satisfactorily enforced, we all would have probably moved on to another device.

trojanlawyer said:
So would you be able to tell me if the T-mo Note and the N7100 are exact the same dimensions/shape. I want to buy a case for the T-mo version but I think all the ones on ebay are for the N7100. Maybe you can switch out battery covers to see if they fit. Thanks!
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They are the same damn phone except for the International version is made in Korean (says on label) and the U.S. variants are made in China (again, on the label) but the specs are the same as far as the meat and bones and the accessories will all work together just like the Galaxy S 3.... I have both a T-mobile (which I picked up today) Titanium color and An International Note in white and my T-mobile is performing a tad quicker as far as benchmarks but that really does not mean much... As far as where it's made.... I, personally, don't care cause they are both the same phone and qc for Samsung (in general) is the same across the board. I almost want to keep the T-mobile AND the International but I don't know if my budget will like that although I did get the International N7100 for $589.99 plus $12.00 back in ebay bucks so I can't complain on the price! The T-mobile was $688.00 OTD when I purchased it today but the HUGE difference is that the T-mobile will work on HSPA+ networks with both T-mobile and AT&T (if unlocked) and the International is edge on T-mobile(nothin you can do)... So I have more options as far as Pre-paid services and I can obtain insurance or a warranty without a problem in the US with the T-mobile version also... Another big plus! The International version is nice because it has hardly any bloat and it gets updates quickly! Who knows when we will see multitasking on the T-mobile version although they aren't as bad as some networks for updates... My opinions on the two versions....
EDIT: What he said above.... LOL He beat me to it! **I also notice on the T-mobile version that when you go to the dialer and press *#0*# there are more test options....??**

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Quick comment - checked back of my phone and it says made in Korea . My model jumber is SGH-T889v. Thanks!

Aren't the white ones made in Korea?

Kawaisa - I have the titanium grey - the SGH-T889v I have is the Canadian variant.

That's one way to look at it I guess. If you get 1900 Mhz at your house and don't want to use your wifi, ok. I would take the Tmo version with wifi calling app and HSPA+42 radio with next years LTE bands built in and just run a debloated stock rom when they start popping up here (or pull your own bloat out using TB). I got one today at Tmo, rooted it, uninstalled a bunch of garbage, and am really happy with the device. The only thing I "want" is the TV animation when shutting the screen off lol. Oh, and I don't like the boot audio either of the SGH-T889, but that will change in a week or so when ROM's start getting released To each there own, although I'd bet the N7100 will get superior dev support...

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Aren't the white ones made in Korea?
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I would like to know too. Does anyone have the White US version and where it was made?

I have the white where i can check that
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AndroidNoober said:
I have the white where i can check that
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
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Behind the phone, under the battery in the back. Thanks.

Tmo white note 2 is Made in china
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I'm going to receive my T-Mobile Note2 in a few days and I chose it pretty much for the same reasons as what had already been stated.
I am not based in the US..but I'm based in the Philippines and will just unlock my Note2. I got it through Wirefly so the price difference really did sway me to get it over the international variant. I also like that it is LTE capable so at least it's future proof somehow.
I am very capable of tinkering with phones so I can easily get rid of bloat and such.
My main concern is the amount of dev support this would be getting. I would imagine that due to the similar hardware, porting ROMs meant for international version would be relatively easy.
I'm wondering though if I could just flash an international based ROM straight away since I don't intend to use this with TMO anyway so I can live without sms/call/data of TMO as long as it can still somehow work with my international SIM and the phone still fully function.. I don't want to wait for updates via carrier.

I've read several of you are talking about uninstalling bloatware, wouldn't this hinder in the OTA update process (we should get one soon for the multi-window feature) whenever it gets pushed out. I thought it was best to disable or freeze the apps through TB rather than uninstalling it, could someone clarify that for me?
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GN2 TMo on ATT with 3G speeds?
shojus said:
They are the same damn phone except for the International version is made in Korean (says on label) and the U.S. variants are made in China (again, on the label) but the specs are the same as far as the meat and bones and the accessories will all work together just like the Galaxy S 3.... I have both a T-mobile (which I picked up today) Titanium color and An International Note in white and my T-mobile is performing a tad quicker as far as benchmarks but that really does not mean much... As far as where it's made.... I, personally, don't care cause they are both the same phone and qc for Samsung (in general) is the same across the board. I almost want to keep the T-mobile AND the International but I don't know if my budget will like that although I did get the International N7100 for $589.99 plus $12.00 back in ebay bucks so I can't complain on the price! The T-mobile was $688.00 OTD when I purchased it today but the HUGE difference is that the T-mobile will work on HSPA+ networks with both T-mobile and AT&T (if unlocked) and the International is edge on T-mobile(nothin you can do)... So I have more options as far as Pre-paid services and I can obtain insurance or a warranty without a problem in the US with the T-mobile version also... Another big plus! The International version is nice because it has hardly any bloat and it gets updates quickly! Who knows when we will see multitasking on the T-mobile version although they aren't as bad as some networks for updates... My opinions on the two versions....
EDIT: What he said above.... LOL He beat me to it! **I also notice on the T-mobile version that when you go to the dialer and press *#0*# there are more test options....??**
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Besides unlocking a TMo note 2, did you have to do anything else to make it work on 3G on ATT? Did you actually test that it would work on ATT 3G or this is just a guess based on specs?

dont be mad now that the cat is out of the bag that tmobile galaxy note 2 has LTE

RE: Bloatware
its called root and titanium backup if you want the Tmo version and no bloatware. root is achievable on the Tmo Note 2, along w/CWM. i am sticking w/the stock rom since i plan to use S-Pen quite a bit. we'll see as the weeks go by and roms start to appear.
i went the tmo vs international due to that 1900 isn't in my area yet and won't be until end of year and our version as prev noted does have the LTE hardware and cheaper than importing an unlocked phone. has anyone noticed VERY slow A-GPS lockons when in doors? my gnex was freakin instant indoors.

Can anyone else post what color they have and where it was Made?
I was reading that the international ones have Made in Korea, Made in China, and Made by Samsung.
Thanks.

Is our Samsung galaxy s3 T999 LTE capable?

There has been a lot of discussion about this topic on the development section which is the wrong section for this topic. So i decided to open this thread.
Members tell us what you know or what you have investigated on this topic.

chispas109 said:
There has been a lot of discussion about this topic on the development section which is the wrong section for this topic. So i decided to open this thread.
Members tell us what you know or what you have investigated on this topic.
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Look up one post from your thread.

dude you're kidding right..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996837'
i know you're trying to help out, and i appreciate your intentions, but please do a search before posting, it'll save you from looking like a dork
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saranhai said:
dude you're kidding right..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996837'
i know you're trying to help out, and i appreciate your intentions, but please do a search before posting, it'll save you from looking like a dork
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I always report these type of things if I post. I agree, his intentions are in the right though.

saranhai said:
dude you're kidding right..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996837'
i know you're trying to help out, and i appreciate your intentions, but please do a search before posting, it'll save you from looking like a dork
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I guess all of us look like dorks when talking about topics not related to the actual thread. Anyway like you said just trying to help. But my bad.

Yes!
chispas109 said:
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I am 100% sure as I have consulted with Samsung internal people and Tmobile managers. The S3 is the SAME device for all carriers in the USA hardware wise. Each Carrier then gets source from google, and samsung modifies it (like adding TouchWiz for example). Then they dispense the devices. So if you believe that much....it would be logical to reason that our T999 can use LTE once ready with android updated to a version similar to the one running stock on Verizon handsets for example, which currently does. Also the point about FCC making some rule against it is wrong. I know for a fact that T-Mobile is deploying LTE in a few test cities now! And over coming months some large cities including NYC, LA, etc will be turned on to LTE. I believe at that point we should get another OTA just like the MD5 example (a new radio and Touchwiz and Android updates) will be pushed and also devs will make rooted versions as Jovy does for us now. Again I am unsure why everyone wants to piss and moan and argue that this is not true. I would think most people such as myself are thrilled I do not have to spend several hundred dollars more at the end of the Fall to upgrade to the S4 since I do not believe that phone has really tons more things I need (13mpx camera I dont care...quad core...slightly larger screen....so on....all minor stuff to me). I like the S3 and wish to use it for a while. So say what you like but I am certain our phone with same Qualcom chipset MSM8960 (review this for proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) will work on LTE network once it is updated in coming months.
Sincerely,

photolarry said:
I am 100% sure as I have consulted with Samsung internal people and Tmobile managers. The S3 is the SAME device for all carriers in the USA hardware wise. Each Carrier then gets source from google, and samsung modifies it (like adding TouchWiz for example). Then they dispense the devices. So if you believe that much....it would be logical to reason that our T999 can use LTE once ready with android updated to a version similar to the one running stock on Verizon handsets for example, which currently does. Also the point about FCC making some rule against it is wrong. I know for a fact that T-Mobile is deploying LTE in a few test cities now! And over coming months some large cities including NYC, LA, etc will be turned on to LTE. I believe at that point we should get another OTA just like the MD5 example (a new radio and Touchwiz and Android updates) will be pushed and also devs will make rooted versions as Jovy does for us now. Again I am unsure why everyone wants to piss and moan and argue that this is not true. I would think most people such as myself are thrilled I do not have to spend several hundred dollars more at the end of the Fall to upgrade to the S4 since I do not believe that phone has really tons more things I need (13mpx camera I dont care...quad core...slightly larger screen....so on....all minor stuff to me). I like the S3 and wish to use it for a while. So say what you like but I am certain our phone with same Qualcom chipset MSM8960 (review this for proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) will work on LTE network once it is updated in coming months.
Sincerely,
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You have really put a lot of investigation into this topic. Not my case. But you have made very good points. I just cannot wait then for lte.

photolarry said:
I am 100% sure as I have consulted with Samsung internal people and Tmobile managers. The S3 is the SAME device for all carriers in the USA hardware wise. Each Carrier then gets source from google, and samsung modifies it (like adding TouchWiz for example). Then they dispense the devices. So if you believe that much....it would be logical to reason that our T999 can use LTE once ready with android updated to a version similar to the one running stock on Verizon handsets for example, which currently does. Also the point about FCC making some rule against it is wrong. I know for a fact that T-Mobile is deploying LTE in a few test cities now! And over coming months some large cities including NYC, LA, etc will be turned on to LTE. I believe at that point we should get another OTA just like the MD5 example (a new radio and Touchwiz and Android updates) will be pushed and also devs will make rooted versions as Jovy does for us now. Again I am unsure why everyone wants to piss and moan and argue that this is not true. I would think most people such as myself are thrilled I do not have to spend several hundred dollars more at the end of the Fall to upgrade to the S4 since I do not believe that phone has really tons more things I need (13mpx camera I dont care...quad core...slightly larger screen....so on....all minor stuff to me). I like the S3 and wish to use it for a while. So say what you like but I am certain our phone with same Qualcom chipset MSM8960 (review this for proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) will work on LTE network once it is updated in coming months.
Sincerely,
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Then, why is tmobile coming out with THE T999l? Otherwise known as T999 WITH LTE.
http://upcomingnewphones.com/upcomi...xy-s-iii-with-lte-sgh-t999l-release-date.html
Logic alone will tell you, the reason why is because the current generation, DOES NOT HAVE LTE!! The phones are identical, except, ours lacks LTE components. You want a T999 with LTE, wait for the T999L. Case closed!

LoopDoGG79 said:
Then, why is tmobile coming out with THE T999l? Otherwise known as T999 WITH LTE.
http://upcomingnewphones.com/upcomi...xy-s-iii-with-lte-sgh-t999l-release-date.html
Logic alone will tell you, the reason why is because the current generation, DOES NOT HAVE LTE!! The phones are identical, except, ours lacks LTE components. You want a T999 with LTE, wait for the T999L. Case closed!
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Out of curiosity, why would T-mobile release an S3 with LTE, while the S4 is already capable of LTE? That just doesn't make sense especially at the fact that they will most likely cost about the same. If this ends up being true, T-mobile makes the dumbest decisions imho.
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edboy21 said:
Out of curiosity, why would T-mobile release an S3 with LTE, while the S4 is already capable of LTE? That just doesn't make sense especially at the fact that they will most likely cost about the same. If this ends up being true, T-mobile makes the dumbest decisions imho.
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Lol, I've been with Tmobile for 6 years, nothing they do surprises me. But, the T999L is fact, and on its way. The S4 is more then a S3 with LTE, at least that's what Tmobile is betting on people think.
Edit: I think it came out last month!

LoopDoGG79 said:
Then, why is tmobile coming out with THE T999l? Otherwise known as T999 WITH LTE.
http://upcomingnewphones.com/upcomi...xy-s-iii-with-lte-sgh-t999l-release-date.html
Logic alone will tell you, the reason why is because the current generation, DOES NOT HAVE LTE!! The phones are identical, except, ours lacks LTE components. You want a T999 with LTE, wait for the T999L. Case closed!
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Teardowns of the T999 have indicated that the LTE hardware does exist, but remains dormant. The baseband and duplexers can support it, of course. The band 4 power amplifier supports WCDMA and LTE. In fact, so does the band 1, band 2, and band 5 power amplifiers. Also notably, the T999 features a band 12/17 LTE power amplifier with a band 17 duplexer.
The better question is: would flashing the T999L firmware work properly on a T999?

Conan Kudo said:
Teardowns of the T999 have indicated that the LTE hardware does exist, but remains dormant. The baseband and duplexers can support it, of course. The band 4 power amplifier supports WCDMA and LTE. In fact, so does the band 1, band 2, and band 5 power amplifiers. Also notably, the T999 features a band 12/17 LTE power amplifier with a band 17 duplexer.
The better question is: would flashing the T999L firmware work properly on a T999?
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You know what would be ironic? What if the T999L was simply T999's that have had their "dormant" LTE components activated and then resold? That the T999L is the T999 recertifed by the FCC and requiring a new designation but not actually a new phone?
Thus one runs out and purchases the T999L for LTE and has the same phone in hand (with possible solder pad jump or other non-software override for LTE).
That's my tinfoil hat conspiracy for the day. :cyclops:
This would be a closely held secret. Especially if the customer turns in their old phone and it's turned into a T999L for the spares/replacement stock.

But, how does one tell which board rev is in his phone? is there an app?
I don't get the same kind of dashboard details on my (now stock) GS3.
About Device says:
Model: SGH-T999
Android Version 4.3
Baseband version T999UVUENC2
Kernel version 3.0.31-1962493 (Sat Mar 8 2014)
Build Number JSS15JT999UVUENC2
nothing about Board version or Device.
One local TMobile store said it wasn't finding 4G/LTE only because I had rooted it (I since unrooted it and ran all updates).
Another store insisted on the T99l designated models had LTE.

yours is NOT lte enabled. rooted or not doesn't matter.

Exynos S9 in Japan?

I hate opening up new threads for topics like "This Device vs. That Device..." but I am under unique circumstances. So, I've been holding out on a new phone forever because I can't figure out what to get. I can only take youtube reviews with a grain of salt because these popular reviewers aren't the kind of people that do things like root, flash custom roms, etc. I was going to get the exynos S9 over the Snapdragon because of the better processor, unlocked bootloaders and from what I've been reading, more common rom development and general XDA support for the device. However, I was offered a position in Japan and will be moving there soon and I have read that they are still reliant on CMDA cell networks. I saw somewhere that only the Snapdragon version supports CDMA. Should I just go with something like the Pixel 2 XL instead or would the exynos still work well over there? I can imagine that maybe LTE has pretty much covered the whole country at this point.

7heBoss said:
I hate opening up new threads for topics like "This Device vs. That Device..." but I am under unique circumstances. So, I've been holding out on a new phone forever because I can't figure out what to get. I can only take youtube reviews with a grain of salt because these popular reviewers aren't the kind of people that do things like root, flash custom roms, etc. I was going to get the exynos S9 over the Snapdragon because of the better processor, unlocked bootloaders and from what I've been reading, more common rom development and general XDA support for the device. However, I was offered a position in Japan and will be moving there soon and I have read that they are still reliant on CMDA cell networks. I saw somewhere that only the Snapdragon version supports CDMA. Should I just go with something like the Pixel 2 XL instead or would the exynos still work well over there? I can imagine that maybe LTE has pretty much covered the whole country at this point.
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Exynos will not support any cdma network, the modem in that model isnt capable of it.
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

I went to Japan a few years ago (2013) and I used my European GSM phone without an issue. My phone was a Galaxy S2 and I was using roaming, only for voice calls as data was 12 euro/MB (yes, MB). I had no issues with network bands. But my experience was for a limited time, in a limited area and my main focus was having someone to call if I get lost - you'll se what I mean
But I was in Tokyo, where probably the coverage from all networks is great. I've found an article that gives some details about networks in Japan: https://www.sakuramobile.jp/japan-wifi/japan-mobile-network-guide-travellers-tourists/.
You should also know that in 2013 public free WiFi was not easily available, but everybody had either (a lot of) data on their phone or was using a pocket WiFi hotspot - even for home internet.

7heBoss said:
I hate opening up new threads for topics like "This Device vs. That Device..." but I am under unique circumstances. So, I've been holding out on a new phone forever because I can't figure out what to get. I can only take youtube reviews with a grain of salt because these popular reviewers aren't the kind of people that do things like root, flash custom roms, etc. I was going to get the exynos S9 over the Snapdragon because of the better processor, unlocked bootloaders and from what I've been reading, more common rom development and general XDA support for the device. However, I was offered a position in Japan and will be moving there soon and I have read that they are still reliant on CMDA cell networks. I saw somewhere that only the Snapdragon version supports CDMA. Should I just go with something like the Pixel 2 XL instead or would the exynos still work well over there? I can imagine that maybe LTE has pretty much covered the whole country at this point.
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Only one of the three major operators is using CDMA (au by KDDI), the rest are using WCDMA (also known as UMTS)/LTE which is the same standard that AT&T, T-Mobile and pretty much rest of the world uses, so NTT DoCoMo and SoftBank sim cards should work with Exynos phones just fine.