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GPU failing?

All of the sudden most images have horrible color transition (especially gradient images) and nothing is as sharp anymore. Tried factory reset but didn't fix it.
Anyone else have this happen? I just exchanged mine too and got a screen with no black blobs and minimal lines but now it's worse than my original phone.
What gives? Even HD video looks like crap now
Not rooted stock 2.3.5
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After further testing everything appears fine in the gallery when I view an image, but as soon as I set wallpaper or watch video it's messed up looking..
Weird thing is it started after I updated widget locker.
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I'm not sure what to tell you on the video, but as far as images go I initially had problems with images that were saved to my sd card. They looked terrible when I tried to set them as my wallpaper. I was able to go back to my laptop for some of the pictures and re-download them which fixed the problem.

Vibrantnew-b said:
I'm not sure what to tell you on the video, but as far as images go I initially had problems with images that were saved to my sd card. They looked terrible when I tried to set them as my wallpaper. I was able to go back to my laptop for some of the pictures and re-download them which fixed the problem.
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Didn't make any difference. Even tried some of the walls that come with the phone, same problem.
Weird thing is when I view a wallpaper in the gallery,I can zoom in full screen size and it's flawless. As soon as I set it as a wallpaper it's slightly blurred with bad color transitions. YouTube videos that were formerly flawless look sub par. Wtf?
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ingenious247 said:
Didn't make any difference. Even tried some of the walls that come with the phone, same problem.
Weird thing is when I view a wallpaper in the gallery,I can zoom in full screen size and it's flawless. As soon as I set it as a wallpaper it's slightly blurred with bad color transitions. YouTube videos that were formerly flawless look sub par. Wtf?
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The wallpapers have nothing to do with the gpu so idk where you get off with that?You might need to do another exchange my sg2 displays wallpapers just fine. Maybe your youtube isn't on high quality most youtube videos look like crap on low quality. Try doing a factory reset. The only time the gpu should be in effect is when the 3d gallery is moving in its little animations. Are you sure your wallpapers are hpdi and high quality?

Killbynature said:
The wallpapers have nothing to do with the gpu so idk where you get off with that?You might need to do another exchange my sg2 displays wallpapers just fine. Maybe your youtube isn't on high quality most youtube videos look like crap on low quality. Try doing a factory reset. The only time the gpu should be in effect is when the 3d gallery is moving in its little animations. Are you sure your wallpapers are hpdi and high quality?
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Well my question about the GPU was because the videos don't play crisp anymore. And yes that's on high quality, don't act like I'm a moron. All my wallpapers are extremely high quality images...and I do graphic design so please understand I'm telling you like it is. Maybe it's the screen going out I don't know, but I see more vertical and horizontal lines now than previously, images are choppier,lines are not smooth. If you would have read my posts you would see I stated that I did a FDR and it did not solve it.
I really think the widget locker update did something, it was right after that and the dev has acknowledged the issue, he was able to reproduce and is working on a fix.
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Devs please delete this thread, problem software related, not hardware
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[Q] video very grainy Note II

Hey everyone
Has anyone noticed or is it just me, the camera app looks perfect on the screen when its on picture.
If I slide it to video it becomes grainy with a lot of noise.
Its a huge difference between the quality of the two.
The noise is visable in the playback of the video.
I was trying to convert my iphone brother to android and he laughed at how much better his video was.
Any ideas or anyone experianced the same?

anyone or is it just me

I've been having a similar issue with my T-Mobile Note II! For some reason while the camera is running, a photo is displayed, or a video is playing, the screen renders everything kinda grainy. I thought it was my imagination, but when I open up a menu, all the icons and options look different too, they don't look smooth anymore, and the color is off. Kind of like a bad jpeg. It's even more noticeable when I use the pop up player, it effects everything I'm doing on the screen until I close the video.
This only happens while content is being displayed, though. When browsing the gallery or scrolling through my video list everything looks fine, until I open something. What's even weirder is this only happens in Samsung's camera, gallery, and video apps. Using any different media app to display content (I tested Camera Zoom FX, MX Player, File Expert, ect.) doesn't cause this at all. It sounds very software specific. I'm not sure if you've tried using a different video player besides the stock app, but try it and see if it looks the same.
I went to T-Mobile and replaced my phone yesterday, thinking it was just me, but the new one is doing it too -_-. You're the first person on any of the forums who seems to have noticed the same thing, lol. I was beginning to think I was going crazy

supersonic215 said:
I've been having a similar issue with my T-Mobile Note II! For some reason while the camera is running, a photo is displayed, or a video is playing, the screen renders everything kinda grainy. I thought it was my imagination, but when I open up a menu, all the icons and options look different too, they don't look smooth anymore, and the color is off. Kind of like a bad jpeg. It's even more noticeable when I use the pop up player, it effects everything I'm doing on the screen until I close the video.
This only happens while content is being displayed, though. When browsing the gallery or scrolling through my video list everything looks fine, until I open something. What's even weirder is this only happens in Samsung's camera, gallery, and video apps. Using any different media app to display content (I tested Camera Zoom FX, MX Player, File Expert, ect.) doesn't cause this at all. It sounds very software specific. I'm not sure if you've tried using a different video player besides the stock app, but try it and see if it looks the same.
I went to T-Mobile and replaced my phone yesterday, thinking it was just me, but the new one is doing it too -_-. You're the first person on any of the forums who seems to have noticed the same thing, lol. I was beginning to think I was going crazy
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Lol ill try some other apps to see if it is software related..
Thanks

Poor camera quality in apps

Recently I got Snapchat and Instagram, when I use their built in camera, the quality is severely reduced. It looks like a 5 MP camera. But using stock camera app (or any camera app) the quality is great. The problem is with apps that do more than take pictures.. Here's two photos so you get an idea. Anyone else have these issues or know a fix?

I haven't noticed any particular image quality problems on my G3 with those apps. I do know that Snapchat saves images in same resolution as your screen, so in the G3's case: 2560x1440

573W1E said:
I haven't noticed any particular image quality problems on my G3 with those apps. I do know that Snapchat saves images in same resolution as your screen, so in the G3's case: 2560x1440
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I don't know if you can see from the pictures, but I don't get anywhere near that, or HD for that matter. You wouldn't happen to know a fix?

Instagram reduces filesize, so, they probably do this directly from the camera app.

alfablac said:
Instagram reduces filesize, so, they probably do this directly from the camera app.
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I'm aware all apps reduce file size, but the images I capture are no where near up to par to a decent standard. The image quality with Snapchat on my HTC M8 was great, but on the G3 it's horrible

I'm having the same problem you are. I reinstalled Snapchat and the problem was still there. I even tried a camera mod (tweaks media_profiles) to no avail. It's a frustrating problem especially when I see my friends' high quality snapchat pictures and while mine are blurry.

Solution!
I finally figured out what was causing this, it somehow just came to me. All you have to do is hide the navigation bar in Snapchat (or any other app you're experiencing this in) and viola, clear pictures! Go to settings->display->home touch buttons. Hope this helps!

alqoshi4life said:
I finally figured out what was causing this, it somehow just came to me. All you have to do is hide the navigation bar in Snapchat (or any other app you're experiencing this in) and viola, clear pictures! Go to settings->display->home touch buttons. Hope this helps!
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So it just looked blurry on your end until you removed the nav bar and on others' phones it looked fine even before your fix?

No it would be blurry to the people I snapchatted as well. I think it has to do with the fact that snapchat captures the image as a "screenshot" of what appears on the screen rather than the raw image from the camera.

alqoshi4life said:
I finally figured out what was causing this, it somehow just came to me. All you have to do is hide the navigation bar in Snapchat (or any other app you're experiencing this in) and viola, clear pictures! Go to settings->display->home touch buttons. Hope this helps!
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Oh my, thank you so much man! I could finally Snapchat friends without feeling embarrassed, you're the best!

It bothered me so much before. Glad I could help!

My pictures are definitely better in snapchat after hiding home buttons
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Tab S 10.5 YouTube Video Stuttering

Hi guys, I recently bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and I'm having issues with video playback in the native YouTube app. Basically every 5-10 seconds, I would get a micro stutter, as if the video is slightly jittery. It's definetely not buffering as the video has loaded well ahead already too.
I am using the samsung stock OS so 4.4.2 and I have installed all the latest official updates for both the OS and the Youtube app.
I have also tried a factory reset of the machine, clearing the cache and updates for the Youtube app and reinstalling. I've also tried forced GPU rendering and turning off hardware overlays in developer mode
Does this indicate there's an issue with my hardware ? It does not happen when i stream videos from my PC over wifi or any locally downloaded videos. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Hmmm, never had this problem with mine when it was on stock. I usually had this problem when I underclocked my cpus and all that or when I am using to many appps.
The only thing I can suggest is use another app (viral popup https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Mata.YTplayer ) or take it back to be safe.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Hmmm, never had this problem with mine when it was on stock. I usually had this problem when I underclocked my cpus and all that or when I am using to many appps.
The only thing I can suggest is use another app (viral popup ] ) or take it back to be safe.
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Thanks, yep the youtube videos would stutter even when i freshly restarted the tablet so nothing else really is running in the background. I have tried the viral popup app except it seems to play at a really low quality setting, ,ie 1080p is not available ?
Is there anything I can test to see if its a possible hardware issue ? I ran the Antutu benchmark and got 37k which seems in line for what's expect from this tablet. Does this help rule anything out ? Thanks.

Check processes, there's probably something in the background.

lagstream said:
Thanks, yep the youtube videos would stutter even when i freshly restarted the tablet so nothing else really is running in the background. I have tried the viral popup app except it seems to play at a really low quality setting, ,ie 1080p is not available ?
Is there anything I can test to see if its a possible hardware issue ? I ran the Antutu benchmark and got 37k which seems in line for what's expect from this tablet. Does this help rule anything out ? Thanks.
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I dont think so. When you play games does it lag too? Ex real racing 3 etc? Because if it cant play youtube without the micro lag, that may affect other apps. I dont get any lag while I was on stock.
If any other apps lag while playing (not on loading screens) then it may be an issue. I never had any micro lag on mine so it may vary on how you see it. Of course we have custom roms that are way smoother (CM12) but I am unsure if your issue is hardware related or the way you see it. Hope this helps!

I got youtube stuttering too for months on my TabS ST800, I tried every tricks in dev options, nothing ever changed .
But one day i tried the CARDBOARD view in the YouTube app options and then return to normal 2D view.... motion became butter smooth up to 1440p60, for any video! If closing youtube app and restarting it, it is stuttering again, until opening again the cardboard view.
Here is a test video I used to validate stutter-free playback :
youtu.be/0BS5V2mSxDs
Good luck.

Marco.hd said:
I got youtube stuttering too for months on my TabS ST800, I tried every tricks in dev options, nothing ever changed .
But one day i tried the CARDBOARD view in the YouTube app options and then return to normal 2D view.... motion became butter smooth up to 1440p60, for any video! If closing youtube app and restarting it, it is stuttering again, until opening again the cardboard view.
Here is a test video I used to validate stutter-free playback :
youtu.be/0BS5V2mSxDs
Good luck.
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You, sir, are awesome!!! I had this problem for the last couple of months on my Tab Pro 10.1, tried everything to eliminate it. Going back to Stock or GraveD rom was slightly better but not really smooth either. I was beginning to lose my sanity switching back and forth between CM11, CM12.1 and stock-rom, trying different developer-options but was not completely satisfied in the end. This cardboard-step is a temporary fix i can definitely live with. But I'm surprised that not many people seem to be effected by this stuttering or they simply don't mind at all. Hope that google is going to fix this shortcoming in the near future but meanwhile...Thanks a ton mister :good:!

.... This cardboard-step is a temporary fix i can definitely live with. But I'm surprised that not many people seem to be effected by this stuttering or they simply don't mind at all. Hope that google is going to fix this shortcoming in the near future but meanwhile...Thanks a ton mister :good:![/QUOTE said:
I was so happy too I spent a night watching again many videos I love ! I'm glad I could share that little joy !
To answer your question, it is a shame that people are suffering from the belief that "online" videos on computer, tablets or phone *must* somewhat stutter. Well ... even trans-galactic communications in Star Wars/Trek and other sci-fi movies are depicted with stutter and even analog (!) video sync and lines issues (in 2150!!). Stutter and other digital disorders have been imprinted in the modern culture because not much effort was given to understand (and implement) that we human are analog creatures requiring a natural constant flow of sound and light, not a "best effort" variable low frame sample rate due to "unavoidable" system interrupts between storage, cpu, gpu and screen. Remarkably, Apple hardware/software was always close to perfection due to their close collaboration with the computer graphics industry for tv and movies..
It is indeed so much enjoyable when colors, contrast, motion of a clean picture hit the brain which then do not have to interpolate, filter dynamically and overcome an unpleasant stressfull and therefore tiring "motion picture"
So far only Sony with its X1 graphical processor in TVs is IMO able to achieve a minimum of digital artefacts while interpolating and displaying moving pictures. HD was a attempt to increase resolution (but we lost many qualities that the oldest of us enjoyed with CRT tubes). UHD must bring "better pixels" back with constant higher frame rate, higher pixel resolution and higher color resolution and dynamic range.
I hope to say bye bye soon to "flicks" = flickering judderish stuttering color-ish moving pictures.
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Snapdragon S10/+/e owners please read: Possible bug with lag and stuttering

Guys, before you reply with any feedback, please read the following post and links in full. It would also help if you posted details of your device like the following, which is mine:
Model: SM-G9750 (Hong Kong S10+)
Build number: G9750ZHU1ASF1
Completely stock, no settings changed
Only YouTube Vanced installed (for testing purposes)
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Summary: An intermittent stutter or lag (most notably during fullscreen 4K HDR playback, in my case) which only goes away when you activate certain screen recorder applications like Game Tools or AZ Screen Recorder.
Below is a list of posts that highlight this problem that I and a few others are experiencing. The common denominator here is the use of a screen recorder, which removes any present stutter or lag.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/lag-stutter-overall-choppy-t3914381
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/btwfbl/anyone_experiencing_stuttering_or_frame_drops_on/
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b79cw3/is_snapdragon_really_that_much_worse_than_exynos/
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4nftn/snapdragon_s10_laggy_on_4k_youtube_playback/ (video evidence of problem)
The following two are from myself. My problem is that all 4K HDR content (could extend to other formats also but I need to do more testing) is stuttering or dropping frames. Screen recorder on and boom - it's smooth.
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/ch172q/snapdragon_owners_does_this_type_of_video_play/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/sm-g9750-video-playback-throttled-t3950757
The lag returns as soon as you deactivate screen recording, which suggests that this is either a bug with the CPU or GPU not being optimized or boosting its frequencies properly, leading to these stutters.
I've put Snapdragon in the title as these posts all appear to be from Snapdragon owners, whether it's the US or HK variant. I don't recall ever having this issue as a last generation S9 Exynos owner. If you are an S10/+/e Exynos owner and encountering this issue, you could still try using your phone normally, with a screen recorder active and then without, to see if there is any performance gain (as crazy as it sounds, it might actually make a difference).
Below is a test I'm using to demonstrate my problem. It involves installing apps (namely YouTube Vanced and either one of two screen recorders I've tested it with), so it's not the most convenient. If I find a better method, I will update the post accordingly.
You will need YouTube Vanced. I'm suggesting Vanced because the original YouTube app doesn't let you view at 4K resolution.
Firstly, open Vanced and tap the account icon in the upper right. Go to settings, Vanced settings, Video settings and then toggle Resolution Checks to ON. Refresh and restart the app.
Now open Game Launcher, tap the three dots in the upper right > Add apps and add YouTube Vanced to the list. We're doing this for the screen recording function which I'll mention later.
Note: if you don't have Game Launcher or Game Tools, you can try AZ Screen Recorder as an alternative. Nice Shot does not work.
Once that's done, here's a 4K 60fps clip for you to try. It should be easier to perceive any hiccups with the higher frame rate. Please set the resolution to 2160p (tap the three dots in the upper right) and watch in fullscreen / landscape orientation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
Panning shots work best. For reference, see points 0:19, 0:46, 1:48, 2:14, 2:42, 3:04, 4:11 and 4:41 in the video. Does it look like it's stuttering or dropping frames intermittently?.
Now, swipe up from the bottom of the screen to show the navigation bar (you need the navigation bar enabled to use the recording function) and tap on Game Tools, which is the leftmost button. Tap Record.
While the screen is recording, are the stutters now gone? To my eyes, the video plays back perfectly while the recorder is active.
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If you are not experiencing any such issues with your device, then congratulations, you have passed the test! Thanks for taking some of your time to provide valuable feedback :good:
Any non-constructive comments will be ignored and reported.

Yes and the solution is? To turn on video recording all the time ???????

okbakaka said:
Yes and the solution is? To turn on video recording all the time ???????
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Well if you have a better solution then I'm all ears? I left a similar post in the Q&A section and didn't receive a single reply. So I thought I'd post it here instead since it's more active.
We're still in the "Guides, News, & Discussion" forum, right? And technically this could even be a guide since I posted a solution, no matter how useless it may be

What resolution are playing those videos at?
I played the Peru 4k 60 @1080P one on youtube and it was great. Then played the same on Vance 1440 @60fps and it was same smoothness.
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I didn't experience that lag in my Exynos...

Limeybastard said:
What resolution are playing those videos at?
I played the Peru 4k 60 @1080P one on youtube and it was great. Then played the same on Vance 1440 @60fps and it was same smoothness.
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[email protected] is where I experience constant stutter. You will need to override resolution checks in Vanced to watch at that resolution: Tap the account icon in the upper right. Go to settings, Vanced settings, Video settings and then toggle Resolution Checks to ON. Refresh and restart the app.
Don't forget to try it with the screen recorder on please, to compare if playback is smoother.
Just realized you're on Exynos, so the issue might not pertain to you, though there's a chance I might be wrong in that regard. Thanks for testing though - more feedback is always welcome :good:

cvat said:
[email protected] is where I experience constant stutter. You will need to override resolution checks in Vanced to watch at that resolution: Tap the account icon in the upper right. Go to settings, Vanced settings, Video settings and then toggle Resolution Checks to ON. Refresh and restart the app.
Don't forget to try it with the screen recorder on please, to compare if playback is smoother.
Just realized you're on Exynos, so the issue might not pertain to you, though there's a chance I might be wrong in that regard. Thanks for testing though - more feedback is always welcome :good:
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I'm not on exynos. I dont have any game tools or screen recorders on my device.
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Limeybastard said:
I'm not on exynos. I dont have any game tools or screen recorders on my device.
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Lizard brain saw the GB flag and assumed you were an Exynos owner - my mistake! So you debloated your phone huh? Is something like Nice Shot or AZ Screen Recorder an option?
Here's a link for anyone wanting to download and test locally:
https://mega.nz/#!HvJx0AJA!giPtSteTVSF4lhBsC--J1CLCWqX5IFTJmWjiL8nHOw4
or
http://www.mediafire.com/file/dzndenwhk6ddboc/COSTA_RICA_IN_4K_60fps_HDR_%28ULTRA_HD%29.mp4/file
You will also need a screen recorder of some sort though, that's the most important step. Here's a few:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.screenrecorder.free&hl=en_GB
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/nice-shot/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/samsung-game-launcher/
update: Nice Shot doesn't work for this test.
Appreciate anyone else willing to try, of your own volition of course. Doing this purely to raise awareness on the issue and gather feedback.

I just tested this using the supplied download links for the actual video and AZ screen recorder.
In all honesty I couldn't see any difference between the video running with or without the screen recorder recording it. They both looked smooth. I was using the default video player to watch the downloaded video.
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I just tested this using the supplied download links for the actual video and AZ screen recorder.
In all honesty I couldn't see any difference between the video running with or without the screen recorder recording it. They both looked smooth. I was using the default video player to watch the downloaded video.
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It was the circled video player. View attachment 4797789
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It was the circled video player. View attachment 4797789
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That looks like the Samsung video player, but no matter since the problem persists across other players too. MX Player in HW decoding seems to be the worst performing one for me.
Did you watch in landscape fullscreened? I keep forgetting to add that detail. If it was the same regardless, then I guess that removes the US Snapdragon from the equation. But thanks for taking the time to test, much appreciated :good: People probably think I'm bullshitting but once I find a concrete way to show what I'm experiencing, I will update this thread.
So far I've only had confirmation of this problem from two (yes, only two but it's still something!) other people, and they also happen to be owners of the HK S10+ variant like myself. If there are any other HK owners out there, I could really do with your feedback on this too!

cvat said:
That looks like the Samsung video player, but no matter since the problem persists across other players too. MX Player in HW decoding seems to be the worst performing one for me.
Did you watch in landscape fullscreened? I keep forgetting to add that detail. If it was the same regardless, then I guess that removes the US Snapdragon from the equation. But thanks for taking the time to test, much appreciated :good: People probably think I'm bullshitting but once I find a concrete way to show what I'm experiencing, I will update this thread.
So far I've only had confirmation of this problem from two (yes, only two but it's still something!) other people, and they also happen to be owners of the HK S10+ variant like myself. If there are any other HK owners out there, I could really do with your feedback on this too!
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Yes , I watched it in landscape mode, even compared the first few scenes where the camera pans etc with screen recorder on and off, couldn't tell the difference.
Maybe you could film the issue with a camera for us to see ?
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Mx player with hardware decoding is no problem, smooth as butter. Snapdragon U1.
What does YouTube report with nerd stats turned on for the dropped frames line?
No offense but your premise is flawed at best. All you have done is made a subjective claim backed up by no legitimate measurable evidence..
Having people install screen recorders and play videos is not 'testing' anything..
Best of luck

Limeybastard said:
Yes , I watched it in landscape mode, even compared the first few scenes where the camera pans etc with screen recorder on and off, couldn't tell the difference.
Maybe you could film the issue with a camera for us to see ?
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That's been tried by someone already but the thing with these cross-comparisons is that they aren't conclusive enough for some people. For me it's crystal clear because I already know what to look for.
Here, this link was in the OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4nftn/snapdragon_s10_laggy_on_4k_youtube_playback/
One on the left is HK S10+, Exynos S9+ on the right. Make sure it's in [email protected] so it's as clear as possible.
The most obvious thing is that the scrolling is laggy on the HK model, but if you look closely, the video is stuttering too (look at the zooming out shot at the beginning). Exynos is completely smooth.
Stuttering video is a big no-no for me, really should not be happening on a phone of this spec.

Swimguy14 said:
Mx player with hardware decoding is no problem, smooth as butter. Snapdragon U1.
What does YouTube report with nerd stats turned on for the dropped frames line?
No offense but your premise is flawed at best. All you have done is made a subjective claim backed up by no legitimate measurable evidence..
Having people install screen recorders and play videos is not 'testing' anything..
Best of luck
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Okay fair enough my test isn't the most thought out, but if you have any better suggestions on how to demonstrate the problem, you're more than welcome to provide them.
Stats for nerds doesn't show dropped frames, so it's likely that any FPS monitoring software would be useless too.
No it's not a subjective claim because if you read through the post and links in full, you would see a number of people confirming the problem. Doesn't matter how few, it's still an issue that shouldn't be ignored.
And one of the links has evidence in the form of video comparison: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4nftn/snapdragon_s10_laggy_on_4k_youtube_playback/ please watch it @ 1080p60 on something larger than a phone screen.
The one thing I should've probably clarified is that I'm on the HK S10+, but those links indicate that US variants have a similar issue too. If yours doesn't have it, then cool, you're good to go :good:

cvat said:
That's been tried by someone already but the thing with these cross-comparisons is that they aren't conclusive enough for some people. For me it's crystal clear because I already know what to look for.
Here, this link was in the OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4nftn/snapdragon_s10_laggy_on_4k_youtube_playback/
One on the left is HK S10+, Exynos S9+ on the right. Make sure it's in [email protected] so it's as clear as possible.
The most obvious thing is that the scrolling is laggy on the HK model, but if you look closely, the video is stuttering too (look at the zooming out shot at the beginning). Exynos is completely smooth.
Stuttering video is a big no-no for me, really should not be happening on a phone of this spec.
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So now we're talking about the scrolling when the video is played minimized like the reddit video? Yes mines like the same laggy. But the video itself full screen is ok.
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Limeybastard said:
So now we're talking about the scrolling when the video is played minimized like the reddit video? Yes mines like the same laggy. But the video itself full screen is ok.
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Not the scrolling specifically because that's related to the problem. For me the scrolling is laggy AND the video stutters. Are you sure the video is completely smooth? It might seem so but on mine there are frame drops present - even if it's very minor, there should be none at all.
It's best to compare with another capable device side-by-side with your own eyes, as no video recording will be able to demonstrate this clearly enough. There's also a chance that some people aren't sensitive enough to stutters and might not even be able to perceive them (I'm not saying you are, this could genuinely not be happening on your device).
And even if the video doesn't appear to be stuttering to you, shouldn't the laggy scrolling be enough cause for concern? A last gen phone is running smoother and that's not acceptable. Don't settle for mediocrity guys.
edit: before anyone questions the absence of screen recording in that video, the person who uploaded it has another post on reddit where he mentions it fixing the problem.

cvat said:
Not the scrolling specifically because that's related to the problem. For me the scrolling is laggy AND the video stutters. Are you sure the video is completely smooth? It might seem so but on mine there are frame drops present - even if it's very minor, there should be none at all.
It's best to compare with another capable device side-by-side with your own eyes, as no video recording will be able to demonstrate this clearly enough. There's also a chance that some people aren't sensitive enough to stutters and might not even be able to perceive them (I'm not saying you are, this could genuinely not be happening on your device).
And even if the video doesn't appear to be stuttering to you, shouldn't the laggy scrolling be enough cause for concern? A last gen phone is running smoother and that's not acceptable. Don't settle for mediocrity guys.
edit: before anyone questions the absence of screen recording in that video, the person who uploaded it has another post on reddit where he mentions it fixing the problem.
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Watching it at 1440p on native YouTube app it seems the scrolling is smooth. But on Vanced @2140 not so smooth scrolling. Probably the Vanced app or cpu etc binning on the snapdragon.
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Limeybastard said:
Watching it at 1440p on native YouTube app it seems the scrolling is smooth. But on Vanced @2140 not so smooth scrolling. Probably the Vanced app or cpu etc binning on the snapdragon.
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I don't think it's the app or hardware because once I turn on the screen recorder, playback is perfect (landscape). I'm no expert on this but a logical guess means there's a frequency boost while the recorder is active, removing the stutters.
If I could find a less ****ty workaround that does the same, I would be okay with it, but there isn't

No lag here. My phone has been flawless. SD