I know that the exact same thing happens on galaxy nexus with JB - the idle power consumption is about twice that than on ICS. Take a look at this picture:
http://imageshack.us/a/img801/707/screenshot2012102607460.png
Note how the JB device is constantly waking up. I have a theory that it may be the Maps app.
Anyway, does anyone know how to fix that?
UPDATE:
I just did some searching, and apparently, this constant waking up is the issue with Maps. One has to go to Maps/Settings/Location Settings and uncheck "report from this device".
I don't know how much battery is gonna be saved by this, but at least it, the waking up won't look as bad as in my screenshot.
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Much better now:
http://imageshack.us/a/img442/5512/screenshot2012102612473.png
I am not 100% sure but that looks normal to me you wakes should be a dashed line. Doesn't look like your battery is suffering so it is normal wakes.
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riggs170 said:
I am not 100% sure but that looks normal to me you wakes should be a dashed line. Doesn't look like your battery is suffering so it is normal wakes.
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The consumption was 9% in 8 hours. On ICS, it would have been 4%. The dashed line would not be as thick.
Have you disabled Google Now cards? (traffic, weather ....)
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Have you disabled Google Now cards? (traffic, weather ....)
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Yes, I disabled Google Now. I imagine that disabled the cards.
Also, just now, I disabled "automatically update location from this device" inside Maps settings.
I wonder if that could fix it.
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Yes, I disabled Google Now. I imagine that disabled the cards.
Also, just now, I disabled "automatically update location from this device" inside Maps settings.
I wonder if that could fix it.
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UPDATE:
I just did some searching, and apparently, this constant waking up is the issue with Maps. One has to go to Maps/Settings/Location Settings and uncheck "report from this device".
I don't know how much battery is gonna be saved by this, but at least it, the waking up won't look as bad as in my screenshot.
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UPDATE:
I just did some searching, and apparently, this constant waking up is the issue with Maps. One has to go to Maps/Settings/Location Settings and uncheck "report from this device".
I don't know how much battery is gonna be saved by this, but at least it, the waking up won't look as bad as in my screenshot.
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I haven't had any sleep issues on my phone. I've got maps and nav installed and haven't touched any of the settings in them. I have, however, disabled Samsung push and related.
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I haven't had any sleep issues on my phone. I've got maps and nav installed and haven't touched any of the settings in them. I have, however, disabled Samsung push and related.
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This is on Jelly Bean only. If you are on JB, check to see if that setting is disabled by default in your rom.
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This is on Jelly Bean only. If you are on JB, check to see if that setting is disabled by default in your rom.
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I've been running JB from day one of LIH. And I'll go check
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What about bad battery life?
FYI, the MAPS setting you mentioned was no enabled on my phone before or after the JB update.
However, Connections Optimizer was back enabled again after the update and has always been a major battery drainer for me.
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Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it seems like the only section specific to the Captivate Glide.
My wife's Glide is stock, very few widgets (google voice, battery, stock clock) and Android OS shows up at 40% when the phone is idle overnight and during the day during use. She has fb set up on socialhub with only contacts synced, 2 gmail accounts, and Touch(used to be pingchat). wifi is enabled and connected for most of the day. bluetooth is on too, but only connected when in the car.
I don't think it's Touch since I have it on my Atrix and Android OS is at 2-3% for me.
Any ideas?
gnahc79 said:
Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it seems like the only section specific to the Captivate Glide.
My wife's Glide is stock, very few widgets (google voice, battery, stock clock) and Android OS shows up at 40% when the phone is idle overnight and during the day during use. She has fb set up on socialhub with only contacts synced, 2 gmail accounts, and Touch(used to be pingchat). wifi is enabled and connected for most of the day. bluetooth is on too, but only connected when in the car.
I don't think it's Touch since I have it on my Atrix and Android OS is at 2-3% for me.
Any ideas?
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do you have apps that can access your location? (weather apps, maps etc.) If yes, you may wanna go settings > location and security > and then uncheck "Use wireless network" in case you have not done it yet.
I don't think that's it. I have location enabled on my phone and have a weather widget. The wifes phone does not have a weather widget.
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I don't think that's it. I have location enabled on my phone and have a weather widget. The wifes phone does not have a weather widget.
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She might have some app that is are using way too much cpu, try doing a factory reset and check the usage, mine is currently %17.
Also the facebook app is a notorious battery thief. Battery usage percentage isn't standard for different people, if she's not using much features, the majority of her battery will be used by the OS since there is nothing else to use it.
vil33 said:
She might have some app that is are using way too much cpu, try doing a factory reset and check the usage, mine is currently %17.
Also the facebook app is a notorious battery thief. Battery usage percentage isn't standard for different people, if she's not using much features, the majority of her battery will be used by the OS since there is nothing else to use it.
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Wouldn't phone idle be the max usage? For my Atrix phone idle is at 70% or so when I barely use the phone and Android OS is 3%. I can try disabling facebook overnight to see if the Android OS usage goes down.
The battery life for this phone is ok. It hits ~30% or so in the early evening, meaning we need to charge the phone if she goes out that evening. For my Atrix the battery doesn't hit 30% until midnight under light usage conditions (no games).
Is there an app or logcat keyword to filter to break down exactly which thread/process is using up the CPU?
edit: nm, going to read through this first
From looking at the wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats the likely culprit for the battery usage is the facebook chat portion of the fb app. The wife has many contacts in the chat, so it's probably polling quite a bit. For me the wakelock count for fb chat is fairly low. fb chat is a must for the wife so I can't disable it.
Also in the process screen I see several kworkers with high usage...not sure exactly what's causing that.
so for whatever reason the battery drain is now more acceptable even though the Android OS usage is still at ~50%. Could be the fb update, but the good battery performance occurred before the fb update.
gnahc79 said:
so for whatever reason the battery drain is now more acceptable even though the Android OS usage is still at ~50%. Could be the fb update, but the good battery performance occurred before the fb update.
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my infuse 4g has a battery drain because of fb.....it's always the next thing that is draining the battery (i hope to get screenies). I just force close fb (or set refresh interval to "never") when I am done using it....
I can't say that this is same as yours but it may be a thing to look up.
Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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I just updated it within the past hour or so. No idea what changed.
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Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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Probably just bug fixes and stuff like that
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Probably just bug fixes and stuff like that
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Yes, it's a bug and I hope that they have fixed it.
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Doesn't appear to have fixed it. Charged up. Two hours later android os is at 26%. Second only to screen. Before I started using it it was at 60%.
Do you happen to use advanced task killer this may help
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Is there a certain task to kill?
I have had this problem since day one with this phone. I did a reset without loading a single app and I see it. Does every glide have this behavior or could this be a bad phone?
Well when I first use my phone a lot of apps are running at startup but you could have a bad phone I don't have the phone so I don't know
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Is there a certain task to kill?
I have had this problem since day one with this phone. I did a reset without loading a single app and I see it. Does every glide have this behavior or could this be a bad phone?
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From the betterbatterystats output, I'm pretty sure the high Android OS usage is software related and specific to the stock ROM. The radio and wifi battery usage are normal.
I have no clue what the kworker processes are doing when the phone is supposed to be idle. Overnight my Atrix is 68% idle, 12% cell standby...android OS is 2%.
Idk you could try when putting it idle turn of Bluetooth and wifi and the data network this could help see
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Idk you could try when putting it idle turn of Bluetooth and wifi and the data network this could help see
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BT is already off. I could turn off both wifi and data network and if it turns out that is what is causing the battery drain (does not seem like it)...then what? Don't use wifi and the data network? It seems like there's little we can do as an average user to fix the high Android OS usage when idle. It does not seem like high kworker process usage can be fixed by TiBu or other simple fixes from a user.
Another update from Samsung, custom ROMs, and other dev fixes on xda seem to be the only options.
You need to find the source to find a rom that will repair this sometimes an launcher can make your battery die faster I know that Facebook and the browser use a ton of ram I have a stock app on my phone called application manager and I can stop apps that are using my ram
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Hi all,
I have 4.0.4 stock gnex.
My wifi settings are this:
Settings->Wifi->(Menu Button)->Advanced. It's listed as "Keep WiFi on during sleep"
When the phone go to sleep the wifi seems to stop, I am downloading an app
from the market, when the phone go to sleep, the download sleep.
Not to doubt you on this but does it also say "Always" beneath the "Keep Wifi on during sleep"? If so, perhaps you have an app that overrides that and disables it.
I have no app that can do it.
Hi, I just tested and had no problems downloading a 50 meg game with screen off.
From honeycomb on google changed how wifi was handled when screen is off. This gives similar problems with older applications but should not be a problem for apps made by Google like Play and Music.
You still did not answer the previous posters question. You reference the advanced wifi setting but not what it is set to.
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atkhobby said:
Hi, I just tested and had no problems downloading a 50 meg game with screen off.
From honeycomb on google changed how wifi was handled when screen is off. This gives similar problems with older applications but should not be a problem for apps made by Google like Play and Music.
You still did not answer the previous posters question. You reference the advanced wifi setting but not what it is set to.
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It's obviously set to always
People have had issues with the setting you choose in that menu not sticking. Try toggling it back and forth and doing some reboots. I don't have the issue on 4.0.4.
From what I understand, when the screen turns off wifi goes into a low power state, draining less battery when on standby. So it greatly reduces the speed (sometime pauses) of all connections to save juice.
KiNG OMaR said:
From what I understand, when the screen turns off wifi goes into a low power state, draining less battery when on standby. So it greatly reduces the speed (sometime pauses) of all connections to save juice.
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I understand if it slowed down, but it shouldn't ever pause though.
This low power state is what I referred to in my previous post. An app must now explicitly request that high power wifi mode is retained when screen is off. All apps from google should be doing this already.
Unprofessional app developers that have not been reading up on the latest changes in android api (like Audible!!! shame on you) will have major slowdowns downloading over wifi when the screen is off.
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I have the exact same problem as posted here And I may have found the solution at this other link here.
What seems to be working for me is the change the "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "Never (increases data usage)". That totally does not make any sense to me. If you 'never" keep wifi on during sleep it should *not* increase data usage. Anyway, I have noticed two things:
1) If I set it to "Never," the files continue to transfer when the screen goes to sleep
2) Wifi transfer rate seems to be *much* faster on my home network. I'm using ES File Explorer, so it could be app related.
Just discovered that according to Google, "Never (increases data usage)" means that it will not stay connected to WiFi while asleep which will increase your 3G/4G data usage. Never the less, it seems my Wifi is better when set to "never"
I wrote an article about wifi usage on my blog here: http://zapek.com/?p=262
You shouldn't worry about PS-Poll mode. It's fine for downloads usually as they don't require a fast interactive response.
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From what I understand, when the screen turns off wifi goes into a low power state, draining less battery when on standby. So it greatly reduces the speed (sometime pauses) of all connections to save juice.
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this could be a possible reason, in my office wifi is not really powerful,
a low power state can disconnect the wifi.
I'm checking better the problem, it seems that the wifi goes into some sort of
energy saving mode when the screen is off that drop my wifi speed.
Is there a way to solve this problem?
it seems that I'm not the only one with this problem-
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/DJTwAutjsIQ
so no solution to this problem yet ?
sblantipodi said:
it seems that I'm not the only one with this problem-
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/DJTwAutjsIQ
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This is not the same problem that you have. The thread you link to is about general download problem with screen off. Your problem was about downloading from the market while screen is off.
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atkhobby said:
This is not the same problem that you have. The thread you link to is about general download problem with screen off. Your problem was about downloading from the market while screen is off.
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In your original post your wrote that you had problems downloading from the market with the screen off.
The android market is a google app and should not have the problem discussed in the thread you linked to.
The problems in the thread relates to applications that have not yet been updated to support power saving features in resent android versions.
So your problem is not the same.
I did write this in my previous posts from may 25. but maybe it was unclear.
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In your original post your wrote that you had problems downloading from the market with the screen off.
The android market is a google app and should not have the problem discussed in the thread you linked to.
The problems in the thread relates to applications that have not yet been updated to support power saving features in resent android versions.
So your problem is not the same.
I did write this in my previous posts from may 25. but maybe it was unclear.
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the problem is present in all apps, google one and non google one so you don't understood the problem
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the problem is present in all apps, google one and non google one so you don't understood the problem
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Hey its no problem. It's only that this is the first time you state that you have problems with all apps.
I still don't understand why you have problems downloading apps though. I have tested and do not have this problem BUT I do have the problems with most other 3rd party apps.
Anyway there is a fix that probably will help you. Download "WIFI High performance' widget from the market. Add the widget and enable it. Good luck.
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Hi I'm having a bad battery drain from android system. I'm assuming it's a wake lock but I can't figure it out by looking at better battery stats so if someone cud remind me the adb command to pull the history and take a look at it if really appreciate it.
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I have the same issue to idk why that happens
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Which custom rom are you using? I suggest you flash Freegs3...bet you won't have the problem. Just my thoughts. See link in my sig...:fingers-crossed:
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Hi I'm having a bad battery drain from android system. I'm assuming it's a wake lock but I can't figure it out by looking at better battery stats so if someone cud remind me the adb command to pull the history and take a look at it if really appreciate it.
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What I found about this problem on my GS3 is that this happen when I use Google maps and Navigation. It seems to keep the location services even when application is closed. I was able to reproduce this 3 times now. The way to fixed is to go to all applications find the Maps then remove all updates and then try to Disable the application then reboot ( you can't completely disable the Maps because is considering a system apps and after the reboot will start again but you can do the same thing one more time or until android system change to system from Gsiff_daemon or gone as aprocess). Then you can install again Google maps updates. Eventually will happen again but let's hope for update from Samsung or Google maps.
Here is the solution if you want to delete Gsiff_daemon file since you are rooted. To see if you have this problem hit the reflesh button on your battery summary screen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30531242&postcount=185
Also here is the whole tread about Gsiff_daemon problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755180
IN RELATION TO GSIFF_DAEMON
do any of you guys have the "increase volume in pocket" setting on in phone-->settings?
also do any of you have motion settings enabled and/or autorotation on?
Seems it has to do with the gyro issue
also are you guys rooted or non-rooted?
Crapppp
Jellybean didn’t solve it. Gsiff_daemon just popped up for me. Just renamed it AGAIN.
Hopefully it won't pop up again
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Hey guys,
so if nobody found the solution yet to this problem, i have a possible one. I researched all day today about this problem and decided to start testing things. After doing a few tests, my battery at the moment is doing great. Its estimated time remaining on standby is 12 days. its kinda crazy lol.
anyways so I took off my LTE network and just set it to regular GSM or CDMA (depending on your provider, mine was CDMA) in Settings > More settings > mobile networks > network mode.
I also went into Settings > Application Manager. Scrolled towards the right to the 'All' tab. Went into the apps I dont use and unchecked 'show notifications' box, and also cleared cache. Also, I disabled Samsung Account, Samsung Backup Provider, and Samsung Cloud Data relay.
Then after that, I went to Settings > Backup and reset , and I unchecked Backup my data, and automatic restore.
I'm still testing. My wakelocks are still really really high. About 130/hour. I'll let you guys know more if I find anything else.
UPDATE: I let my S3 sit on my night table all night unplugged. The battery went from 95% to 91%. My android system went from
35-45% usage down to 6-8%. average 0.5%/hour battery drain in standby. Android system is still giving me wakelocks though, approx.
60/hour in standby. But when I checked betterbatterystats, the deep sleep was activated the whole time, and not partially wakelocked.
I really hope this helps you guys. Ill try turning on some of the apps today to try and pinpoint exactly where this battery drain is coming
from.
I just got my first Android phone and its a Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean. The first two days I was getting around 4-5 hours of battery life and then started reading up on this forum and did a bunch of suggested changes like turning off NFC, location services etc. Also, downloaded Juice Defender and now the battery life is around 7 hours. My usage is very minimal and I was thinking the battery life should be much better than this. When I look into my usage, it seems Google Maps is eating out all my battery life. I have turned off all possible location services to stop this but nothing seems to work.
I have attached some of the relevant screenshots also from my device.
Any advice on how to get this sorted is much appreciated. Thank you.
Isn't there a location setting within the maps app that you should turn off? Or have you already done so?
Go into maps and look in settings if you are logged into "latitude". If so, then log out of it.
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Isn't there a location setting within the maps app that you should turn off? Or have you already done so?
Go into maps and look in settings if you are logged into "latitude". If so, then log out of it.
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I have done that too
Why don't you just kill maps when you don't use it???
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Why don't you just kill maps when you don't use it???
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I do kill the map. In fact, I make sure to kill all apps after I am done using them but somehow it still pops up. I have a doubt that there might be some other app that is keeping my maps awake but I am unable to detect any.
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I do kill the map. In fact, I make sure to kill all apps after I am done using them but somehow it still pops up. I have a doubt that there might be some other app that is keeping my maps awake but I am unable to detect any.
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What you can do is root the phone and then install Titanium Backup and freeze maps. Then it will never be able to start again.
I'm relatively new to android but have a computer background. I'm rooted and have flashed about a dozen or so different ROMS but ended up back to stock for a few of the TW features. I've been keeping an eye on my battery lately and noticing a extremely high number of wake ups from my maps application. Last night specifically I went to bed at 11:30ish with 39% batt life remaining. I woke up and 7am and I have 19% remaining. Phone wasn't in use at all. I had 3 emails and a google+ message come through over night. Looking at GSam Battery monitor maps has very high usage for something i'm really not using at all. it used 15% of my battery coming in below the kernal at 15.4% and the android system at 28.5%. The phone was held awake for a total of 1h 11m in the last 14h by maps alone and had 1743 wake ups.
I have since gone in and turned off location services. I was not using latitude or anything. Not using GPS although I do leave it on. I have google now installed and really liked the fact it would give me driving info when it was my usual time to head to or from work. The alerts for traffic for calendar appointments was also awesome so i'd preferably like to keep those working if possible.
If anyone has any info that could help it would be greatly appreciated!
Here are some screenies to help just in case.
You could try freezing maps with titanium backup. Not sure what effects it will have on anything else though. Just a suggestion.
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You could try freezing maps with titanium backup. Not sure what effects it will have on anything else though. Just a suggestion.
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Well I use maps all the time. I just didn't happen to be using it in the last charge cycle. So far this morning I went into the maps settings and toggled locatoins settings- report from this device to off. I'm currently charging (off my laptop so it's slow) and once I'm at 100% I can run another cycle and see if it's made any difference. So far it looks like the number has stayed the same.
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Well I use maps all the time. I just didn't happen to be using it in the last charge cycle. So far this morning I went into the maps settings and toggled locatoins settings- report from this device to off. I'm currently charging (off my laptop so it's slow) and once I'm at 100% I can run another cycle and see if it's made any difference. So far it looks like the number has stayed the same.
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I've seem many posts about this. Its a known issue unfortunately. Like you've already done, make sure location reporting is off and that latitude is disabled.
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I've seem many posts about this. Its a known issue unfortunately. Like you've already done, make sure location reporting is off and that latitude is disabled.
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Yeah i've seen some posts but Latitude was off and most of the other instructions for disabling more services were for different devices so the setting paths were different. Maybe this will actually work. I've noticed a bunch of wakes preventing periods of deep sleep as well. crossing my fingers I solved it myself.
small update, looks like turning off the location history does stop google now from working with the traffic updates. While I really like this service, i'm not sure it's worth the battery life it's taking to fuel it. Could be related to using a port of google now with ICS and not official jelly bean, at least that is what i'm hoping.
Well it looks like I got maps fixed but now the system is crushing my battery. I'll let the screenshots do the speaking. Really looking for someone with some expertise to help me out. I'm lost other than switching to a CM10 ROM.
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Turn Off Location Settings
Try turning off your LATITUDE LOCATION SHARING. That seems to work for a lot of people that reported the same issue. Its under System Setttings > Accounts > Google > Maps & Latitude
That's been off. Fixed the maps but now system is going crazy. This just started yesterday. I'm planning on re flashing stock and starting over
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I'm sure you have, but im just gonna ask the obvious. Have you rebooted?
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I'm sure you have, but im just gonna ask the obvious. Have you rebooted?
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Not only have I rebooted, I did a Titanium backup of my apps, factory reset, and only restored my apps. no system settings.
The only thing I can think of is that I installed a few packages to enhance the stock rom. I'm going to flash over a completely fresh version and go from there.
Oh wow, well good luck! I would recommend looking at CM10 tho. Been using it for a month or two now and haven't looked back.
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Oh wow, well good luck! I would recommend looking at CM10 tho. Been using it for a month or two now and haven't looked back.
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I really liked CM10, a lot. I just miss some of the reasons I bought this phone. Swiping contacts to text/call, motion settings, video playback pip. If they could ever get those on CM10...
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