I have one of these credit card size security pass for work. I don't know of the technology they are using but can someone hack that card somehow to work NFC enable phones?
I keep forgetting my pass and it's frustrating dealing with the security guards.
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vic_singh said:
I have one of these credit card size security pass for work. I don't know of the technology they are using but can someone hack that card somehow to work NFC enable phones?
I keep forgetting my pass and it's frustrating dealing with the security guards.
Please and Thanks
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There's probably chip working like SIM-card or the bank card, so you can communicate with it through NFC complaint machines, but you can't dump everything in it. So well... it cannot be said it's not possible, but the complexity of it is most likely similiar to the complexity of cloning SIM or debit card.
vic_singh said:
I have one of these credit card size security pass for work. I don't know of the technology they are using but can someone hack that card somehow to work NFC enable phones?
I keep forgetting my pass and it's frustrating dealing with the security guards.
Please and Thanks
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If the card is ISO14443 A or B compliant it can work. You will need to have some informations on the way the card works though. Not easy and only possible on a rooted smartphone that uses the PN544 from NXP.
vic_singh said:
I have one of these credit card size security pass for work. I don't know of the technology they are using but can someone hack that card somehow to work NFC enable phones?
I keep forgetting my pass and it's frustrating dealing with the security guards.
Please and Thanks
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It might not even be NFC. And where I work, no badge = No entry. We're told to inform security if someone enters without a visible badge, including "pocket/purse badging".
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Hi folks,
I have extensively searched for this topic, and the only one that pops up for me is over on the phandroid S2 forums, and both threads claim it hasn't worked, despite videos on youtube showing that the Simore adapter does work with the S2.
So I am wondering if any of you guys have it working?
Thanks!
Don't know about the Simore, but the MagicSIM 28th cut works like a charm! What is the version/type of your Simore adapter?
I do not have one yet, but according to Simore, their Platinum series will work.
Do you have the MagicSIM 28th? Does it install the Sim App on your phone that allows for the sim switching?
Thank you for your input!
chiefroastbeef said:
I do not have one yet, but according to Simore, their Platinum series will work.
Do you have the MagicSIM 28th? Does it install the Sim App on your phone that allows for the sim switching?
Thank you for your input!
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MagicSIM 28th has built i menue,and allows switching ot sim 1 to 2, 2 to 1 etc
Thanks Nyssa! Have you used it? I am reluctant on this because I haven't found any reviews or people in forums saying any of the dual sim adapters work with the S2, other than the in-house Simore video on youtube. And then I read some posts from Blackberry users saying Simore has the worst customer service, claiming that it would work with the Blackberry 9000, when the adapter doesn't even fit, leading to sim card breakage, etc.
So I just want to be careful, since the adapters are not cheap.
The Magicsim switching works through the standard Sim Tool Kit menu. You can switch from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 1.
Adapter works great, only "problem" is with the auto APN settings (for 3G/HSDPA connection). Android doesn't auto-config the APN settings (or at least it takes a looooong time).
What I do:
1. Turn off mobile data
2. Switch sims through STK menu
3. Turn on airplane mode
4. Turn on mobile data
5. Turn off airplane mode
When I do this, the phone automatically configures the APN settings and the mobile data connection works like a charm!
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MagicSIM 28th has built i menue,and allows switching ot sim 1 to 2, 2 to 1 etc
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any link with a shop where we can order it?
Petros_tigra said:
any link with a shop where we can order it?
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http://www.eurodualsim.com/site/
You may want to try ebay also worth a shot.
Hi,
Has anyone tried the non cut version on a Galaxy S2 ?
Thanks !
sorry but what is the diference between the cut and non cut version?
I'm interested in this too.
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I'll second the magicsim 28th gen for this!
I'd probably avoid the eurosim guy tho as i've have had a bad experience with him and if you search his website on here there's been a lot of bad talk about items not showing up etc
I'd go with ebay. I've bought several of these from the "directdevices" on ebay without any problems
Hope this helps.
R
I assume http://www.magicsim.com/ is what your all referring to?
This would be great for me as i have 2 phones, the GS2 and a Samsung Tocco which is seriously outdated and in bad condition but i have Irish and UK SIM cards but if i could have both in my GS2 id ditch the Toccco.
I previously bought a Simore card for an Omnia and couldn't get it to work. Each cut SIM worked on it's own but the switching adaptor card never did. €40 wasted in my opionion.
Yes thats right www.magicsim.com is the product
How do these things work? I mean does it allow incoming calls on any one of the two SIMs? Or only one SIM is active at one time?
And what happens when both the SIMs receive calls at the same time?
Only 1 sim is active, because the phone only has 1 antenna. When both numbers get a phonecall at the same moment, the active one will make the phone ring, the non-active one will go to voicemail.
If I have one "normal" Sim and second credit data SIM for internet access, it is possible set it that way that first will be not used for connecting to internet?! I am now switching cards but need second phone to get calls what is inconvenient.
Not with the Dualsim app. But I'm sure you could use an APN-manager and "lock" the APN settings, so only the one with a data plan can connect to mobile internet.
S2 with none cut 28th works
Hi
I am using the non cut version of the 28th and it works fine apart from 2 sim online it does not auto switch has anyone got this feature to work with sammy s2 ?
Is there a way to upgrade the sim tools app?
Thanks
Can we use this to pay for goods in the UK?
if so, what software do we need on the phone. There's a few shops in my town that have a contactless payment machine so I'm wanting to try it out.
any ideas?
Also, can these be used to scan and copy a proximity card for use at work to let me in doors?
I am one of the worst for forgetting my card each day so having my ID on my phone would be useful!
mmace said:
Also, can these be used to scan and copy a proximity card for use at work to let me in doors?
I am one of the worst for forgetting my card each day so having my ID on my phone would be useful!
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this would be fabulous if we could get it to work!
winwiz said:
this would be fabulous if we could get it to work!
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I think Android's implementation of NFC is still missing tag emulation mode, unfortunately.
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I think Android's implementation of NFC is still missing tag emulation mode, unfortunately.
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what if I had access to the security system and any codes etc, would that help?
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what if I had access to the security system and any codes etc, would that help?
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I don't think so. Basically Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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I don't think so. Basically Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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ah, cheers
any way we can make payments then like they can in the US?
Ive got it working in the UK. I flashed the app from here and factory reset, then opened Google wallet with a non-Apps Google account, added a new prepaid card and its all working, paid for a coffee at starbucks this morning in London. Only problem I have now is how to top up my prepaid card. Only US cards are supported.
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My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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juniorbattle said:
My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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That would be ballistic, bumbastic, amazing
juniorbattle said:
My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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I doubt it, because
Chirality said:
Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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The simplest way would be to super-glue your Oyster card to the back of the phone. But that would impair other NFC uses.
With Visa and Mastercard support we are meant to get Google Wallet in early 2012. Source
I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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Maybe I'm strange but I'm quite looking forward to that
gambiting said:
I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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They would probably think you hacked the payment system or something if you used your phone.
omg call the police. hax0r!
Anyone link it with their Barclay card, or is that even possible?
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Anyone link it with their Barclay card, or is that even possible?
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I've been trying.
The registration page in My Barclaycard asks for phone number and SIM serial number. It expects a SIM serial number that is 19 digits. The number written on my T-Mobile SIM is 12 digits. I contacted T-Mobile and they gave me my full serial number - 20 digits. So now it is too long. The best they could suggest was dropping the last zero. It didn't work. So I still can't link my Barclaycard to a contactless account.
Even if I managed to do any of this, I still wouldn't have the necessary app that comes pre-installed on the Samsung Tocco Quick Tap from Orange. So I wouldn't be able to do anything with the account. Maybe it is possible to port the app from that phone onto the Nexus.
Are all Orange SIM numbers 19 digits? I guess the Barclaycard/Orange Quick Tap thing really does only work with Orange.
Ok, so received an email from the android bug tracker saying that it's going to get resolved in the next software update \o/
It is going to take off here in the UK - but I think I saw it on BBC Click that it will reach widespread use by 2014
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It is going to take off here in the UK - but I think I saw it on BBC Click that it will reach widespread use by 2014
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I believe the government want it at the very least commonplace throughout London ready for the 2012 Olympics. But I don't have a link for where I read that.
From The Verge:
"Orange has announced that the Samsung Galaxy S III will receive its Quick Tap mobile payment system starting September 5th. Orange launched Quick Tap over a year ago, but the Galaxy S III is the first Android smartphone to use the system. Orange and Barclaycard provide the Quick Tap service, which they say is available in over 100,000 locations in the UK. The service allows users to make payments of up to £20 without having to enter a PIN.
Like other mobile payment wallets, Galaxy S III owners using Quick Tap in the UK can link up their various debit or credit cards from UK MasterCard or Visa. Orange is offering a £50 bonus credit for new customers when they activate Quick Tap, starting Wednesday."
What are the chances that the apk can be pulled and installed on the Galaxy Nexus? I'm fed up of waiting (for nearly a year) for Google Wallet in the UK.
I've explained a little about it here: http://www.nfcbrief.com/2012/09/orange-first-to-launch-uk-android-nfc.html
I'm assuming that Orange have opted to use the SIM as the secure element. If that's the case, it could be bad news for Nexus owners. I don't think stock AOSP Android has support for SIM secure elements (not 100% sure on this), meaning that, even if you acquired one of these new SIMs from Orange (and downloaded the Quick Tap apk), it likely wouldn't work with the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs might be able to fix that, though.
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I've explained a little about it here: http://www.nfcbrief.com/2012/09/orange-first-to-launch-uk-android-nfc.html
I'm assuming that Orange have opted to use the SIM as the secure element. If that's the case, it could be bad news for Nexus owners. I don't think stock AOSP Android has support for SIM secure elements (not 100% sure on this), meaning that, even if you acquired one of these new SIMs from Orange (and downloaded the Quick Tap apk), it likely wouldn't work with the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs might be able to fix that, though.
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OH wow, I really hope this comes to Galaxy Nexus
Just saw your update on the article you posted:
"UPDATE: I've received word from Orange that they will indeed be using new SIMs as the secure element for Quick Tap on Android. This means that the majority of NFC-enabled Android devices will be able to use the application, as long as Orange have approved each device. Notable exceptions likely include the Nexus devices, as it is unclear whether Google have enabled SIM secure element support in 'vanilla' Android. Quotes can be found below."
That sucks! Any chance you could ask if the Galaxy Nexus will be supported? Seeing as you are already in touch with them?
And just out of curiosity what is the advantage of using a SIM as a secure element? Is there a chance that Google have enabled support for it?
Thanks
so i searched around for this and no one seems to have a definite answer...or at least, no one that has possibly used these possibilities has spoken out..
here's my question..mastercard paypass mobile (and now called masterpass)... is it just an app that i'm missing that you can register on an NFC phone and then you're able to use your credit card linked to your profile?
Or will masterpass be that app when it gets release and will only support the banks that are signed on with them? (in Canada, BMO has already signed on)
basically, as a replacement option to google wallet for those (like us in Canada) who can't use wallet..or at least, functionally use it with one of our credit cards
any info is appreciated...
*sorry if this doesn't go in nfc hacking...but it's nfc related since i'm just looking for nfc payment solutions...i hate wallets
Just like Google wallet and Isis by all most of the major US cellular vendors the app is only half of the story. The other half is something that is embedded in the actual phone it self. What is missing is something called the "secure element" so that no one else with out proper access can use it and it cannot be mimicked/copied. The secure element can be anything from an actual chip embedded in the device to a SIM card that has the chip built in. If you have a credit card with the smart chip or that has wave pass or some other NFC option and you have scanned it with your device, heck even the popular skylanders toys there is an area that is secure and no matter what you do you cannot view the data or alter the data, that's an example of a secure element. That's what is missing from your device
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rastlin said:
Just like Google wallet and Isis by all most of the major US cellular vendors the app is only half of the story. The other half is something that is embedded in the actual phone it self. What is missing is something called the "secure element" so that no one else with out proper access can use it and it cannot be mimicked/copied. The secure element can be anything from an actual chip embedded in the device to a SIM card that has the chip built in. If you have a credit card with the smart chip or that has wave pass or some other NFC option and you have scanned it with your device, heck even the popular skylanders toys there is an area that is secure and no matter what you do you cannot view the data or alter the data, that's an example of a secure element. That's what is missing from your device
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I wasn't asking why i can't use google wallet. I could actually use google wallet before they took away their virtual card in October. I can't add any credit card because my billing address is in Canada (not completely true...like most others, i can add my card but the transaction will not go through when i try to use google wallet with that card).
the gist of my question was more along the lines of, is masterpass like google wallet? does it already exist with paypass mobile or is paypass mobile just an internet profile that you can use to pay online and masterpass will absorb it but also be an nfc payment method?
at MWC recently, mastercard mentioned masterpass as an NFC payment solution...so i would imagine that you can use credit cards from banks that are signed on with it as nfc payment...but it is not 100% clear
well, masterpass launched today, and from what i read on mobilesyrup, it looks like nfc payments will not be possible
i hate that we are seriously lacking in an option similar to google wallet
if anyone signed up for masterpass and says it does work through nfc, please let us know...as of now, from any article i've read, it doesn't look like it works...
Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.
Used it just fine at Walgreens yesterday.
razortaz18 said:
Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.
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Yup used it at Panera bread the other day.
Great. Thanks guys. I can't wait to finally use it.
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Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.
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Yes, bout a soda at a machine with it last weekend.
Works with the VERIZON note 4 (ie SM-N910V) ? I don't even see the option to use tap and pay.. And everything I have read leads me to believe that it doesn't work. Can you post a 'how to' set it up? Thanks...
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You need to have NFC turned on for tap & Pay to work...
Disregard, found the settings... And yes, my nfc was on
Not sd ure then. I have a note 4. Installed Wallet from Google plsy, everything works .
Now that it's working places are killing nfc cause of apple pay. Check out CurrentC it's major places trying to get there own inhouse payments using QR. CVS and rite aid have write up in news. GW started it working great then things get stalled because of carriers and GW. Carriers build their own softcard (isis) funny have to rename cause matches terrorist group. Now the stores want a piece to bypass credit card charges and allow them direct access to you back accounts. People are reviewing the CurrentC app in both apple and google stores as 1 star. News is saying for once apple and android people agree on something lol.
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Tried it at CVS yesterday...didn't work. CVS has turned it off.
Wallet working for me no problem at Duane Reede and BP gas station