[Q] Straight Talk - At&T vs T-mobile Questions - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all I have a few questions I am hoping someone can answer. I currently have a At&T i717 Note I am using on Straight Talk with a AT&T sim card.
I am getting ok speeds with it and good indoor building coverage. It is unlocked and I had been using it on contract with T-mobile with much better speeds but I couldn't use it at work being in a concrete hospital low building permeability. I am now trying to decide which Note II to buy that will work for me best.
My questions are as follows:
1. Does the Note II use mini sim, or nano sim like the iphone or normal size like the Note i717. Currently Straight Talk only offers mini sim cards for At&t coverage map and not T-mobile (yet I am contacting them to see if they are planning on offering this).
2. Is it difficult to cut down a sim to be the correct size for the Note II if I do want to buy the T-mobile Note II and use it on Straight Talk (faster speeds in my area).
3. Will the AT&T Note II have the ability to be unlocked and used on HSPA+ on Tmobile with flash of different modems like the Note I was modded to do (or without modding)? Or are the radios/modems already compatible on both At&T and Tmobile HSPA+ networks.
I am kinda confused and unsure of what I should do. I want to sell my Note i717 and use the money for Note II but don't want to make the wrong decision between the two options I have listed. I may end up going back on contract with Tmobile with a family member but I would like not to.
4. One more question not specific to the Note but does anyone have any input on credit checks and down payments for AT&T, I have poor credit from when I was younger and made some stupid financial decisions but my job offers 22% discount for AT&T plans which it would be nice for me to take advantage of being able to then use LTE. It would be a $50 on Straight Talk vs. $75 on AT&T (LTE). I probably would be willing to pay the extra $25 a month if I don't have some outrageous down payment. I will check with AT&T directly when I can but was looking for any input from fellow Note II lovers.
Thanks in advance for any help!
IMPIMMS (AMANDA)

I am currently using the unlocked note 2 on straight talk. I tried to cut down my regular sim ti micro but I failed. So I ordered a new micro sim from straight talk. Speeds are good as is coverage. Average about 6mbps+ Sadly I dont know the answers to your other questions.....hope this helped!
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Also ypu can get a sim cutter on ebay pretty cheap.
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Don't use T-Mobile
I recently signed up for Straight Talk. Since my phone was an unlocked T-Mobile phone, I ordered a Straight Talk SIM. My service is horrible. I rarely get 3G, mostly edge. Even the cell service is poor. I have put a non Straight Talk AT&T SIM in my phone and get a constant 3G. So I have ordered a Straight Talk AT&T SIM; will start using the first of November. Hopefully the bad service I have received is the T-Mobile SIM and not Straight Talk.

Just a heads up I was using my note on straight talk and I wanted to use the SIM in my note 2. The people at my local T-Mobile store were nice enough to cut the SIM for me even though I was not using their service. A lot of their stores have SIM cutters for people who are trying to run iPhones on their network.
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purplepizza said:
I recently signed up for Straight Talk. Since my phone was an unlocked T-Mobile phone, I ordered a Straight Talk SIM. My service is horrible. I rarely get 3G, mostly edge. Even the cell service is poor. I have put a non Straight Talk AT&T SIM in my phone and get a constant 3G. So I have ordered a Straight Talk AT&T SIM; will start using the first of November. Hopefully the bad service I have received is the T-Mobile SIM and not Straight Talk.
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Thats because the unlocked international verion of the phone will only work on the HSPA+ that ATT and Stright talk both have. Consider yourself lucky to see a 3g Signal if your on Tmobile because from my understanding it only works on EDGE with Tmobile:highfive:

purplepizza said:
I recently signed up for Straight Talk. Since my phone was an unlocked T-Mobile phone, I ordered a Straight Talk SIM. My service is horrible. I rarely get 3G, mostly edge. Even the cell service is poor. I have put a non Straight Talk AT&T SIM in my phone and get a constant 3G. So I have ordered a Straight Talk AT&T SIM; will start using the first of November. Hopefully the bad service I have received is the T-Mobile SIM and not Straight Talk.
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It has been posted all over this forum that the international version of the Note 2, if used on T-Mo will only get Edge data in 99% of the nation. The only places where you will see 3G or H+ is in those areas where T-Mobile has already refarmed its 1900 MHz spectrum (because that's the band that the international Note 2 has). I have heard some parts of Washington state, Las Vegas, Chicago and NYC have it.
But if the OP buys the T-Mobile variant, he would be able to get H+ at very good speeds (depending on where he is).

I'm kinda in the same predicament as the OP... I'm using an original at&t note with an At&t straight talk sim card. I would love to go down to tmobile tomorrow and pick up a Note 2 .. unlock it and throw my sim in it.. but will it work? I can wait till Nov. 9th for the At&t version but if they will work the same I'd like to jump on it now.

Does LTE work
I heard it works with Att LTE is that true can anyone confirm?

Ive heard the note 2 for tmobile is the exact same hardware as the at&t. Not sure how accurate this is, i got that from tmonews. So the tmobile variant also has lte support but is disabled i believe.
That being said, if they are the same harfware with just different model#s to identify the carrier, i would think the at&t version should also have hspa compatible with tmobile, but might just be disabled. Again, this is based on what i read in tmonews.com regarding the tmobile version.
Hope this helps

Hey guys,
Not trying to hi-jack this thread but I have a similar question:
I had Windows Phone on the ATT network. I switched to Straight Talk a month ago by just switching out the sim cards. The phone & service worked great except straight talk does not support windows phone because you can't edit the APN setting in Windows Phone because they are automatic. It was time for a new phone anyways so I went on ebay and found a new phone unlocked on the T-mobile network. I put the straight talk sim in the new phone and now I am getting a lot of problems with sending & recieving text etc. The major problem I have is I keep getting a text message that says +1121611611 (2288 Error Invalid Number, Please resend using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code. This is continuous day & night and will not stop and runs my battery down. Is it possible that I can't use a T-mobile phone with a AT&T version Straight Talk sim?

Techngro said:
It has been posted all over this forum that the international version of the Note 2, if used on T-Mo will only get Edge data in 99% of the nation. The only places where you will see 3G or H+ is in those areas where T-Mobile has already refarmed its 1900 MHz spectrum (because that's the band that the international Note 2 has). I have heard some parts of Washington state, Las Vegas, Chicago and NYC have it.
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Well that explains why I see 3G in Seattle.

I plan on switching to straight talk in April I want to get a note 2 but I have 4 problems
1. Which company will offer the best service ATT or TM?
2. If I get ($$$) Phone is there a way to get insurance/Warranty that will cover me it in case ANYTHING happens? Would Square Trade Do it?
3. Will all the features work?
4. Which sim card should I get ATT, Straight talk or Tmobile?

spawn1980 said:
I plan on switching to straight talk in April I want to get a note 2 but I have 4 problems
1. Which company will offer the best service ATT or TM?
2. If I get ($$$) Phone is there a way to get insurance/Warranty that will cover me it in case ANYTHING happens? Would Square Trade Do it?
3. Will all the features work?
4. Which sim card should I get ATT, Straight talk or Tmobile?
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First off, why dig up this old thread to post in, it's last post was in October. But I do have to thank you because you obviously did search first.
TMobile is out of the question if you are looking to buy an international Note2 (N7100). You will be only able to use 2G on it unless you are in one of a handful of cities. So if you want to use TMobile, your best option is to buy a TMobile version of the Note2.
As for if you should use TMobile or ATT, no one can answer that for you. You have to talk to people in your area about how their service is, dropped calls and data speeds. As a general rule ATT has better nationwide coverage but there are many places where TMobile has great service and data speeds too.
Insureance, how many times have you dropped your phone in the last year? I put a TPU case on my Note1 and dropped many times and never had it break but some people have them break on the first drop. Up to you, I think it's waste money.

Would love to know if the att note 2 will get lte if on straight talk
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tmobile note 2 contract is up, can I go no contract with it?
I have a note 2 that I got when I was still under contract, im curious if I can go monthly no contract and still use it. Probably through t mobile still until something better comes along, so I don't have to be locked in a contract. Because it sucked.

I have Note 2 N7100. International unlocked version bought from Newegg in Nov of 2012. I have used Straighttalk (AT&T SIM) the whole time. I have had them cut off my data twice so far because of TOS. Says you cant stream music/video, use P2P, and other crap. Basicly they say you can only browse. But let me be clear, I was using 5GB+ each time they cut me off so yea, it was my fault, I know what unlimited means and it's unlimited. Each month they cut it off, I got it turned back on no issues. Now for the last month, my speed has bee HORRIBLE all month. I have used under 500MB thus far but its bad. My wife, who has Nexus 4 and uses a concistant 500MB - 1GB/month and has her ST account totally seperate has the same issue. So does my neighbor and two co-workers, we are getting horrible speeds for the past month or so. So I am seriously concidering AT&T thier ungoddly bounty for service starting next month. I get a discount at work so it equals out to about $70/month, same as the others. I loved ST but it's gotten really bad...
BTW, I bought a TM SIM from TM last week and it was 2G from work to home. I live in Birmingham AL. there is a few miles of good 3G on the interstate but thats it. Hope this helps

Straight Talk has lost out on AT&T for whatever reason(s). They don't offer the AT&T Sims on their site anymore. There are some left on eBay but the sellers have doubled the price or more. The day is supposedly coming that new AT&T Straight Talk Sims will no longer activate. ST has also downgraded the unlimited data on AT&T to 1.5 GB a month. Tmobile sucks in my area. I hope to never have to use it again.

sholsten said:
Straight Talk has lost out on AT&T for whatever reason(s). They don't offer the AT&T Sims on their site anymore. There are some left on eBay but the sellers have doubled the price or more. The day is supposedly coming that new AT&T Straight Talk Sims will no longer activate. ST has also downgraded the unlimited data on AT&T to 1.5 GB a month. Tmobile sucks in my area. I hope to never have to use it again.
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Where is your source that it is only 1.5 gigabytes with AT&T now
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Here's one
http://androidheadlines.com/2013/02/straight-talks-unlimited-data-not-so-unlimited-anymore.html

so i recently just moved from boston to ohio (44820 zip) while i was in boston i used tmobile. however when i came to ohio i noticed i was always using 2g via att. tmobile has no service in this town. so heres my dilemma...i signed up with sprint and to be honest im (no 4g lte and 3g sucks) wanting to dump them. honestly i will pay the etf for both phones (note 2 and optimus g). i just want out!
so im trying to decide what to do...is straight talk or net 10 the way to go? do they both use att or tmobile. i have searched but if i understand correctly att runs net 10 and straight talk runs tmobile. but do they roam on each other?
any help would be awesome! i truly would love prepaid with unlimited data.
look up my zip and you will see tmobile is a no go. so now its att but which mvno and i need unlimited 3 or 4g...
thanks!!!

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Does T-mobile GS3 work on ATT HSPA+?

Hi, im new, 2nd post (1st thread)
So heres some background info, I have AT&T but i work for t-mobile. Had my AT&T GS2 phone stolen by a t-mobile customer and the company I work for are great people and decided to replace my GS2 with a t-mobile gs3 for $100. They even offered me a dealer line to go with it (I get unlimited everything [NO THROTTLING] for $22 a month)
So heres my question. I know for sure that it wouldnt connect to AT&T LTE but for whatever reason if I decide to unlock and use it on my AT&T plan, does it have the proper bands required to connect to AT&T's HSPA+ network or would I be running edge?
I know all iphone's used on T-Mobile only run EDGE. (Coming later this fall they will be able to connect to t-mobile's 4g HSPA+ network)
Anybody have a clue?
I'm pretty sure it would work on atnt 3g speeds
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It will work. The T999 has support for 1900 Mhz hspa+, which is the AT&T band.
Thanks. Much appreciated.
Confirmed working. I unlocked my T999. I have 2 sim cards, StraightTalk and Tmobile monthly 4G. I travel a lot, so depending on which carrier gives me the best signal that's what I would use. Usually, StraightTalk would give me the better signals...although Tmobile still gives me faster data speeds. just thought id share .02.
2Phonez said:
Hi, im new, 2nd post (1st thread)
So heres some background info, I have AT&T but i work for t-mobile. Had my AT&T GS2 phone stolen by a t-mobile customer and the company I work for are great people and decided to replace my GS2 with a t-mobile gs3 for $100. They even offered me a dealer line to go with it (I get unlimited everything [NO THROTTLING] for $22 a month)
So heres my question. I know for sure that it wouldnt connect to AT&T LTE but for whatever reason if I decide to unlock and use it on my AT&T plan, does it have the proper bands required to connect to AT&T's HSPA+ network or would I be running edge?
I know all iphone's used on T-Mobile only run EDGE. (Coming later this fall they will be able to connect to t-mobile's 4g HSPA+ network)
Anybody have a clue?
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Sorry but i think is funny that you wotk for tmobile and get att instead lol, i would do it too,att has better service im on tmobile cause is cheaper tho
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Tmobile has a faster 4g network where im at (New Jersey)
22 dollars? What crazy plan is this
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babymatteo said:
Confirmed working. I unlocked my T999. I have 2 sim cards, StraightTalk and Tmobile monthly 4G. I travel a lot, so depending on which carrier gives me the best signal that's what I would use. Usually, StraightTalk would give me the better signals...although Tmobile still gives me faster data speeds. just thought id share .02.
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Hi, I'm waking up this thread as I have the T999 phone and recently switched to Straight Talk SIM (AT&T).
I only get EDGE on the phone using my Straight Talk SIM.
Is there anything I need to do with the phone? It runs the latest stock, not rooted or modified as such. It is carrier unlocked.
I unlocked my t999 and using it on my contract att plan, getting hspa+ atm, just check the bands that it supports, which are 850mhz 1900mhz for att's 3.5g(not 4g) LTE is 4G.
elaxsjo said:
Hi, I'm waking up this thread as I have the T999 phone and recently switched to Straight Talk SIM (AT&T).
I only get EDGE on the phone using my Straight Talk SIM.
Is there anything I need to do with the phone? It runs the latest stock, not rooted or modified as such. It is carrier unlocked.
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I also got straight talk att and I get hspa+.
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jose makalolot said:
I also got straight talk att and I get hspa+.
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What apn settings do you use? I plugged my ATT sim into an unlocked SGH-T999 today with the ST APN settings and only get 3G. Speed isn't bad - 1164k down/1041 up, but I would like to tap into the HSPA+ if possible.

Using T999 on AT&T?

(Did a quick forum search on this and didn't see anything that answered my question, so if this is around somewhere, I apologize.)
Okay, I'm currently with Verizon Wireless, and generally happy with my service, but what I am unhappy with is my bill (I pay $220+ a month for 4 lines, only 2 of which are Smart Phones). I'm thinking of switching to T-Mobile's prepaid service when my contract is up, and my and my wife both like the Galaxy S3, but I'm leery about T-Mobile's service in my area (I live in a rather Rural area). Ideally, I'd buy an unlocked version of the phone to use with prepaid plans (so if I'm dissatisfied with one prepaid service, I just switch out SIM cards and port my number), BUT unfortunately, the unlocked versions of the S3 that I've found don't work with the T-Mobile HSPA+ band (1700 MHz). However, what I have found is that when comparing the T999 with the I747 (T-Mobile and AT&T versions, respectively), I've found that (LTE aside) the frequencies they operate on are exactly the same, with the difference being only that T-Mobile's can use the 1700 MHz frequency.
SO, my question is: If I went ahead and sprung for a couple of T999's and found that T-Mobile didn't work for me, could I just unlock the phone for use with AT&T and pop in an AT&T SIM, and enjoy AT&T's HSPA+ goodness? Or is there something I'm missing? I know that the other way around won't work (only in very, VERY isolated spots will T-Mobile customers with unlocked iPhones and Droids that operate on 1900 MHz frequencies actually get more than EDGE speeds with their devices), but this seems like the best option (barring buying a GSM Galaxy Nexus from the Google PLAY store, which I'm not sure will be available when my contract is up - I hear that there's a new Galaxy Device being cooked up, and I'm not holding my breath for Google to sell it alongside an older Nexus device).
Opinions?
FYI, I'm not worried about LTE right now. As I said, I live in a rural area that's lucky to have 3G. LTE might not EVER make it to my area (AT&T just added 3G to my area in the last year), so HSPA+ (whether 21 Mbps or T-Mobile's 42 Mbps) is plenty fast for me (my Verizon Wireless Xperia PLAY currently pulls down 1.5 Mbps on a good day).
Link to T999: htt p://ww w.gsmarena. com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_t999-4804.php
Link to I747: htt p://ww w.gsmarena. com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_i747-4803.php
(Remove spaces. Would have hyperlinked, but as I don't yet have ten posts, that's illegal.)
Wow. It's refreshing to see someone do research before asking a question.
Yes, that would probably be your best bet. You can use the T-999 on AT&T HSPA+ just fine. You can even use it on Medianet's $10 unlimited data I believe since it isn't an AT&T phone. I feel like you will likely end up doing this as T-Mobile prepaid has a smaller coverage footprint than postpaid (or so they claim).
So yes, if you don't care about LTE, this would work just fine for you.
At&t user here. Yeah hspa+ works fine on it. If losing lte isn't an issue for you then go for it.
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I was on the same boat as the OP. I bought an unlocked T999 and I am currently using on ATT's network, but through Straight Talk. I still get HSPA speeds w/o the 5GB cap.
Another AT&T user here also using Medianet plan.. Works perfect on hspa+
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Bump. Is there any specific apn settings to get h+. As i have heard straightalk at&t with tmobile s3 only gets edge speeds? Please tell me i was told wrong lol. Thanks
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Bump. Is there any specific apn settings to get h+. As i have heard straightalk at&t with tmobile s3 only gets edge speeds? Please tell me i was told wrong lol. Thanks
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In a similar situation!
I have the T999 with T-mobile and am moving to Kauai, am there now and the service is worthless. I looked at AT&T's prices for shi*ts and giggles and ugh, no. I just ordered a straight talk AT&T compatible sim from walmart, will need to cut it because everywhere is out of micro sims, and would like to know how successful the T999 is on the AT&T compatible network of straight talk. I seriously feel lost without data to my phone, it hurts.
I have been researching and researching the band frequencies and everything points to that it should work. I just got this phone after my rooted/unlocked SGS4g went into a toilet and then sold on ebay.
lol
BTW long time viewer of XDA, has been successful in unlocking/rooting/flashing the SGS4g and the T999, with a mac I might add which always makes things complicated.
Thanks again
adelynn2006 said:
In a similar situation!
I have the T999 with T-mobile and am moving to Kauai, am there now and the service is worthless. I looked at AT&T's prices for shi*ts and giggles and ugh, no. I just ordered a straight talk AT&T compatible sim from walmart, will need to cut it because everywhere is out of micro sims, and would like to know how successful the T999 is on the AT&T compatible network of straight talk. I seriously feel lost without data to my phone, it hurts.
I have been researching and researching the band frequencies and everything points to that it should work. I just got this phone after my rooted/unlocked SGS4g went into a toilet and then sold on ebay.
lol
BTW long time viewer of XDA, has been successful in unlocking/rooting/flashing the SGS4g and the T999, with a mac I might add which always makes things complicated.
Thanks again
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I have my t999 unlocked and with straighttalk at&t sim. I am getting 4g symbol which is hspa+ on at&t terms. Speed is great, loads up browser pages faster than my wifes tmobile and hers is on 4g aswell. Couldn't be happier. But at home and at work I have wifi so i try to avoid using too much data to avoid the infamous data cap
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ok so i can get a sim from straight talk , cut the end off and put it in the micro slot - confermed by androidarea51
my question is, since I am getting the runaround on a carrier unlock code, is as follows:
If I root, rom, and flash anntennas and modems to my phone, will I become carrer unlocked?
is there any way to become carrier unlocked without getting the code from tmobile/samsung/or cellunlockers that charge a fee
I am perfectly open to the option of doing this myself with little concern on complexity of the flashing metheds if that is what is required.
so Expert opinion?
You don't have to. Check EBay for unlock, it's very cheap there.
Which Straight Talk Sim?
If you get a Straight Talk T-mobile Sim then you wouldn't need to unlock the phone at all. It is not required if you use the tmobile sim in a tmobile phone just chose that sim and it uses the tmobile coverage map and speeds (the other choice is a At&t sim which you would pick if you had a At&t note ii or if you have known issues with the coverage of tmobile in your area) No need to pay for unlock code or hassle with tmobile to give you one with this option. You would probably get faster speeds using the tmobile sim option from Straight Talk over the At&t option sim. For me at my location in Florida I get double speeds on a tmobile one vs At&t depends on your location. Sim cards are $14 I think or less on Straight Talk you could get one of each and try one month of each and compare. Just thought I would mention this as an option in case you didn't know.
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If you get a Straight Talk T-mobile Sim then you wouldn't need to unlock the phone at all. It is not required if you use the tmobile sim in a tmobile phone just chose that sim and it uses the tmobile coverage map and speeds (the other choice is a At&t sim which you would pick if you had a At&t note ii or if you have known issues with the coverage of tmobile in your area) No need to pay for unlock code or hassle with tmobile to give you one with this option. You would probably get faster speeds using the tmobile sim option from Straight Talk over the At&t option sim. For me at my location in Florida I get double speeds on a tmobile one vs At&t depends on your location. Sim cards are $14 I think or less on Straight Talk you could get one of each and try one month of each and compare. Just thought I would mention this as an option in case you didn't know.
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I received my unlock code for my T-mobile Note 2 in less than 48 hours, and right from T-mobile themselves and it was FREE... If you have been with T-mobile for 60 days or longer on a Monthly4G plan then you can request a free unlock for any phone you buy outright (off-contract) and you will then be free to stick ANY sim in that slot as long as it has the bands you require... Pretty sure that they will unlock it with out too much hassle but I guess it's all in who you get... (And the choices aren't GREAT by any means)!
I would prefer 3g everywhere n 3g at home with an att covered straight talk sim card as opposed to tmobile with 4 g in a few places an absolutly no signal at home regardless of what their falsified coverage map says (should be edge here according to that). I also want the cheeper plan.
I just looked a the wika n it says they partner with att n tmobile for gsm so I asked straightalk who they partner with in my area.
I have been told that straight talk opperates in the fasion of having an independent imei on the sim card as well as the sim code and dosent realy pay attention to the phones imei
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Why Buy The Tmobile version of Galaxy Note II only to use it on ATT straight talk
I was just wondering what would the benefit of using the Tmobile version of the Galaxy Note II on AT&T-Straight talk and not using it on Tmobile-Straight talk. Wouldnt it make better sense just to use the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note II on the AT&T Straight talk network? ...and the Tmobile Galaxy Note II on the Tmobile Straight Talk Network?....Granted you have to wait a little longer until the AT&T version comes out but wouldnt that give you better service having the same provider???
Take some time and read up on some of the threads here. The tmobile version has the best long term growth potential. Then again, you could just wait. I love not having LTE, its such a horrible battery hog. I am getting 11mb download speeds on solavei (tmobile towers). But I work and play in a great coverage area.
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Take some time and read up on some of the threads here. The tmobile version has the best long term growth potential. Then again, you could just wait. I love not having LTE, its such a horrible battery hog. I am getting 11mb download speeds on solavei (tmobile towers). But I work and play in a great coverage area.
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How is soavei? I still gotta go att but im interested in an opinion of a member.
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Capped at 2G by T-Mobile?

I bought 2x Samsung Galaxy Note 2 phones off newegg for $650 each. These are unlocked phones, specifically, this device:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16875176414
The data service for just about everyone I've tried sucks horribly. I decided to give T-Mobile a try since they offer 4G HSPA+ 42 in this area.
The person in the store says that I can buy prepaid sim cards. I wind up ordering them over the phone since they only cost $1 instead of $30 for a microsim if you order it that way. The website says I can get 2GB of 4G data per month for $60. I pay my $66 and change after tax.
Immediately, I notice I am getting crappy 2G / Edge comparable speeds. I call customer service and they tell me that because the phones are unlocked and not bought from T-Mobile that 2G / Edge is the maximum speed I can get and that 4G speeds are not possible without purchasing a phone direct from T-Mobile. Neither the person in the store, nor the person that sold me the sim over the phone mentioned this and they are refusing a refund.
Is there any truth to what they are saying about not being able to get 4G if I don't purchase direct from the service provider. Are there any work arounds?
I'm burning with rage right now.
Thanks,
-Bob
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I bought 2x Samsung Galaxy Note 2 phones off newegg for $650 each. These are unlocked phones, specifically, this device:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16875176414
The data service for just about everyone I've tried sucks horribly. I decided to give T-Mobile a try since they offer 4G HSPA+ 42 in this area.
The person in the store says that I can buy prepaid sim cards. I wind up ordering them over the phone since they only cost $1 instead of $30 for a microsim if you order it that way. The website says I can get 2GB of 4G data per month for $60. I pay my $66 and change after tax.
Immediately, I notice I am getting crappy 2G / Edge comparable speeds. I call customer service and they tell me that because the phones are unlocked and not bought from T-Mobile that 2G / Edge is the maximum speed I can get and that 4G speeds are not possible without purchasing a phone direct from T-Mobile. Neither the person in the store, nor the person that sold me the sim over the phone mentioned this and they are refusing a refund.
Is there any truth to what they are saying about not being able to get 4G if I don't purchase direct from the service provider. Are there any work arounds?
I'm burning with rage right now.
Thanks,
-Bob
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They told you right about the Edge. Our phones don't use the band that T-Mobile uses for 3G.
what about 4G? and are there any work arounds for this? How is t-mobile selling the galaxy note 2 to its customers with the 4g service?
Are there any providers that offer faster than 2G / Edge for Galaxy Note 2?
Also, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176414
I posted a bad link in the original thread earlier
Kno you will have to ... go with Att .. man and there prepaid is not as good as Tmoble ..... Blahhhhhhhhhh that sucks
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I use Straight Talk with AT&T and it has 3G. Thing is AT&T & ST are parting ways. You can only find Straight Talk AT&T Sim cards on Walmart.com & eBay now, and they're going fast. Straight will only be using T-Mobile and that will suck. I'll change so fast their heads will spin if they try to force me from AT&T to T-Mobile.
Although the International Note II's don't have same bands as Tmobiles HSPA+ and you normally will only get 2g/Edge, if you are one of the lucky ones in a TMobile refarmed area you should get HSPA.
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T-Mobile's version of the Note 2 has the HSPA+/4G band for their specific network which the N7105 doesnt have..
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Well A) you've bought an n7100 which doesn't support dc-HSDPA anyway so you'd only get up to 21 instead of 42mbps
B) you bought it without checking if it supports the radio bands you need for your carrier, which it doesn't, which is why you're only getting 2g speeds. It's nothing to do with t mobile capping you to 2g
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Immediately, I notice I am getting crappy 2G / Edge comparable speeds. I call customer service and they tell me that because the phones are unlocked and not bought from T-Mobile that 2G / Edge is the maximum speed I can get and that 4G speeds are not possible without purchasing a phone direct from T-Mobile. Neither the person in the store, nor the person that sold me the sim over the phone mentioned this and they are refusing a refund.
Is there any truth to what they are saying about not being able to get 4G if I don't purchase direct from the service provider. Are there any work arounds?
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Wow, lots of wrong information both there and in this thread.
This is a quick post so some of my numbers might be wrong, but here's the basics:
Two years ago, t-mobile's 3G/4G relied on the 1700 band, which the N7100 doesn't support.
To make a long story short, t-mobile is using 1700 for LTE, and moving their 3G onto the univerally supported 1900 band, which works on our N7100 and most international phones.
This is a gradual rollout. If your area has been 'moved', you'll get 3G. And by gradual I mean one tower at a time.
I don't think they expect full US 1900 3G till end of 2013.
It's only recently that NY had enough 1900 band support that I have now decided to move over to t-mobile.
we might not support 4200, I did some random spot testing and I think I was only getting 2100.
Previously, with my note 1, I had to dump t-mobile and go to AT&T which fully supports 1900.
- Frank
I went to Dallas the other day and brought the Tmobile sim with me. The my speed changed from E to H+ (sometimes 3G) and the data connection was considerably faster than 2g or 3g, but I frequently get a message stating, "You have lost data connectivity because y".... the rest of the message is cut off and I haven't found a way to read the entire thing because touching it brings me to a settings screen and trying to move the text by swiping or sliding clears the message.

[Q] HTC one on Straight talk?

Hi,
Currently I have a droid DNA on Verizon with unlimited data, text and calls. I was grandfathered in. I really want to lower my bill monthly and want a new phone as well. I was thinking of getting either a Verizon Galaxy S4 or HTC One and trying out straight talk for a month. IF all works well, I may port my main number over. Otherwise, I would just keep the One/S4 on Verizon.
Has anyone used the HTC One from Verizon on an MVNO? I hear that all the 4G LTE phones are Unlocked out the box. Just wanted to make sure before I buy.
unless something has changed in the last couple of months you can only use old 3g only verizon devices on straight talk. you cannot use 4g devices. plus you have to pay them something like 50 bucks to unlock it and move it to straight talk, which usually doesn't justify the cost of buying an old VZW 3g phone. maybe, if you have one laying around then you can justify the cost.
straight talk is kind of a pain too, if you miss your payment date by 7 days then they close your account. possibly losing your number. it's not like virgin mobile where you can shut the phone off for 90-120 days before they close the account and you lose your number. not to mention straight talks unlimited data is no where close to unlimited. they will close your account after 1.5gb i believe.
if you have decent sprint service in your area i would suggest looking at virgin mobile or boost. either of those have way better phones than straight talk and you can get 4g with them if available in your area.
wolderiii said:
unless something has changed in the last couple of months you can only use old 3g only verizon devices on straight talk. you cannot use 4g devices. plus you have to pay them something like 50 bucks to unlock it and move it to straight talk, which usually doesn't justify the cost of buying an old VZW 3g phone. maybe, if you have one laying around then you can justify the cost.
straight talk is kind of a pain too, if you miss your payment date by 7 days then they close your account. possibly losing your number. it's not like virgin mobile where you can shut the phone off for 90-120 days before they close the account and you lose your number. not to mention straight talks unlimited data is no where close to unlimited. they will close your account after 1.5gb i believe.
if you have decent sprint service in your area i would suggest looking at virgin mobile or boost. either of those have way better phones than straight talk and you can get 4g with them if available in your area.
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The ST website says you can get an AT&T compatible 4GLTE Sim for GSM phones and plug it in, activate, then activate your airtime card. I've seen people do this with the Droid DNA so I was wondering if the One would do this also.
You don't have to pay anyone to unlock anything. All verizon 4GLTE phones are unlocked out the box. The Htc one and s4 have GSM radios in them, which means ATT or Tmobile should pick up.
i don't believe the program for ATT phones on straight talk is the same as verizon phones on straight talk.
from what i understand from researching this a few months ago was that only verizon 3g phones could be ported to ST. if it was a 4g phone then ST would not allow you to use on their network (more likely verizon won't let ST on their 4g network and are just leasing them the less used 3g network). The only way to use a verizon 3g phone was to pay for ST to unlock it.
i highly doubt you can take a 4g verizon phone and use it on ST, if you can't find the information you need on the web then call/email ST and ask them. the few times i had to email them they got back to me within a few hours.
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i see you are wanting to use a ST ATT sim in the verizon one, to use on the ST network which would use ATT towers.
i'm not sure if this is possible. i would ask ST and see what they say. it could be that they say NO just because the person you get doesn't understand what you are trying to do. Perhaps the other way would be to simply try it and see what happens... but if you are currently using the phone on Verizon, then this would probably end your contract and unlimited data.
however, i still stand by my conviction that you cannot use verizon 4g devices on ST where ST uses Verizon towers.
wolderiii said:
unless something has changed in the last couple of months you can only use old 3g only verizon devices on straight talk. you cannot use 4g devices. plus you have to pay them something like 50 bucks to unlock it and move it to straight talk, which usually doesn't justify the cost of buying an old VZW 3g phone. maybe, if you have one laying around then you can justify the cost.
straight talk is kind of a pain too, if you miss your payment date by 7 days then they close your account. possibly losing your number. it's not like virgin mobile where you can shut the phone off for 90-120 days before they close the account and you lose your number. not to mention straight talks unlimited data is no where close to unlimited. they will close your account after 1.5gb i believe.
if you have decent sprint service in your area i would suggest looking at virgin mobile or boost. either of those have way better phones than straight talk and you can get 4g with them if available in your area.
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wolderiii said:
i don't believe the program for ATT phones on straight talk is the same as verizon phones on straight talk.
from what i understand from researching this a few months ago was that only verizon 3g phones could be ported to ST. if it was a 4g phone then ST would not allow you to use on their network (more likely verizon won't let ST on their 4g network and are just leasing them the less used 3g network). The only way to use a verizon 3g phone was to pay for ST to unlock it.
i highly doubt you can take a 4g verizon phone and use it on ST, if you can't find the information you need on the web then call/email ST and ask them. the few times i had to email them they got back to me within a few hours.
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i see you are wanting to use a ST ATT sim in the verizon one, to use on the ST network which would use ATT towers.
i'm not sure if this is possible. i would ask ST and see what they say. it could be that they say NO just because the person you get doesn't understand what you are trying to do. Perhaps the other way would be to simply try it and see what happens... but if you are currently using the phone on Verizon, then this would probably end your contract and unlimited data.
however, i still stand by my conviction that you cannot use verizon 4g devices on ST where ST uses Verizon towers.
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Yeah I don't care about ST service where ST is using Verizon towers. I was wondering if the ST ATT Sim that you can buy would work in an HTC One from Verizon. I have the DNA on Verizon now and my One will be arriving soon. I figured I will keep the DNA on Verizon so I don't loose Unlimited Data. But before I blow $51+ tax on a ST Sim card and data plan card, I wanted to know if anyone had it working on their phone?
ATT has good coverage where I live.
Just as an update. The phone works with straight talk just only get edge data and I can't send mms probably because just the data is slow.
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selayan said:
Just as an update. The phone works with straight talk just only get edge data and I can't send mms probably because just the data is slow.
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I know this is an old post, but can you tell me how you got yours to activate. I have a Droid DNA and it keeps telling me that it is not compatible. I have not switched the SIM cards yet. Will it work once I buy an AT&T SIM Card? I do not know much about how the SIM cards work. Right now the old verizon SIM is still in there and it says the IMEI number is not compatible. Will that change once I switch the SIM cards?
Just pop in the straight talk SIM it will recognize it after you buy a plan and put in the apn settings from their site.
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