[Q] Galaxy Note 2 7100 vs 7105? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm planing to buy a galaxy note 2. When I found out that the first released version is non LTE, I decided to wait for the LTE version. Especially the price of the two devices is the same (kinda no brainer). However, I started to see some comments that not all ROMs and tweaks for the non LTE (7100) would work on the LTE version (7105) - please correct me if I'm wrong. So thinking about it, the non LTE note 2 is more common and will have much more support from developers. In addition, the only network that has LTE in the UK is EE, and the note 2 doesn't support its frequency (1800 I think).
So what do you guys think?

I decided to get the N7100 and am perfectly happy with the stock rom.
Battery life is great and the screen is beautiful. I can usually get about 1Mbps/5Mbps up/down on hspa which is fine for my needs.
Different strokes for different folks...
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Which version of the note II will have the most support from XDA

I live in Canada, and we will be getting the quad exynos with LTE. I normally buy the international versions due to the support on XDA but this time around it seems the international version only has 3G at moment. Will international version come out with LTE as well? also with the different LTE bands its going to be tricky i think. The U.S. variant will get the same variant quad exynos + LTE. I assume it will have good support?
well international version only got gsm (3g) only
just get international version
Well, with codeworkx recently announcing he is no longer supporting exynos phones until Samsung provides the proprietary drivers(or something to that effect, its on RootzWiki) all support will suffer in the short term. However, I would gather that all versions will be popular enough for good support eventually. Also, Mr. Cyanogen himself uses TMOUS so I would hope we can get the ball rolling there.
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Let's put it this way, which model you think will sell the most? The most popular model will get bigger user base, so is its developer base.
Unless all Note 2 share same firmware (or easy to mod), international HSPA version (n7100) most likely will get update first.
I'm thinking it will be just as it has been in the past. THe HSPA International phone will be very popular as they have always been.
Sigh. Singapore will only have the international LTE version. Gonna miss out on loads of customs roms and rooting. Sucks!
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Samsung N7105 Galaxy Note II LTE

I have seen that there are 2 versions of the Galaxy note 2
version 1. Samsung N7105 Galaxy Note II LTE
version 2 Samsung N7100 Galaxy Note II
Are the roms in the rom section compatible for both versions or ther should be a different forum thread for the Samsung N7105 Galaxy Note II LTE just as there isone for the Galaxy S3 gt-i9305?
Samsung Galaxy Note 2 N7105 LTE
Are there any roms yet for the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 N7105 LTE ?
There will be when its released in an English speaking country.
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I'm kind of hoping the ROMs will be compatible, since I doubt many people will be getting the N7105. I kind of want to, however, since the N7100 won't support 4G in my country.
I'm quite sure that the talented dev in XDA can managed to find a way to easily port ROMs between LTE and non LTE. I was hoping that the only difference is in the modem and not the ROM. Maybe just flashing some lib files can make the difference between the 2.
OLYMPIAKOI said:
Are there any roms yet for the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 N7105 LTE ?
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Singapore launching it from 19 October at all 3 Telcos.
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It will be fine, all the US Galaxy S 3's can share almost all the roms/kernels (some better than others) so I don't see why the Note 2 would be much different. Obviously you'll flash different modems but roms/Kernels should cross over np.
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Different firmware for the two models, rom for LTE don't available. I wonder for disponibility in Italy.
N7105 samsung galaxy note II LTE
the N7105 samsung galaxy note II LTE does not support the fm radio. there is not any firmware installed to support fm radio.
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the N7105 samsung galaxy note II LTE does not support the fm radio. there is not any firmware installed to support fm radio.
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Seriously, I did not know there were sooo many different variants of the Note II (LTE). After reading on a couple of websites that it had FM Radio I went ahead to purchase the LTE version and only to find out later that it did not have FM Radio enabled in the Singapore version.
Some say there is no hardware built within the phone to support FM Radio but when I called Samsung Singapore helpline (1800-7267864) and voiced my disappointment, over the local market being deprived of a very basic function;
1) First I was told, no FM Radio and to download Radio Application from Google Play the streaming kind that will incur data charges.
2) When I said, why is that overseas LTE model has inbuilt FM Receiver then I was told that Samsung was aware of this issue and that they were working on this situation and perhaps there will be an update soon.
So in other words, it may just have something to do with the ROM and or Kernal and the hardware is probably already there but disabled. I suggest, those who feel there is a strong need for this function (FM Radio) to call them up and constantly, get an update otherwise, Samsung won't really know that there is a serious market for this function. Just my opinion.

[Q] Looking to purchase a Note II and had some questions

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I'm looking a purchasing a Samsung Note II that will be used on AT&T network. Since my upgrade is a year away, I have a Skyrocket that's only a year old, this phone will be a full price for me. I'm trying to find out some specific questions on the different Note II phone types, euro vs North America and what preloaded software differences are between them.
* the Note II that I purchase MUST have 4G LTE (AT&T FINALLY turned on 4G LTE in North East OKLA about 4 weeks ago! ..LOVEING IT).
* 10 minutes after I purchase the phone and verifying that everything is in working order it gets rooted.
I can purchase the phone from AT&T for full retail for 649. Best Buy said they would match that price (we'll see if they really do). When at Best Buy I asked about the preloaded software on the Note II (sense they do not have a working model on the floor) I was told in a blunt tone that it was an AT&T phone so it would work on AT&T's network.
Question---
1. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells have the same preloaded junk that comes on the one at the AT&T store?
2. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells been stripped of some of the Note II futures like the one at the AT&T store?
-- I read on an Amazon review the following http://www.amazon.com/review/R2Q2WM4I4VO8J7/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R2Q2WM4I4VO8J7
Be aware that the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note II is currently missing various standard functionality that Samsung is marketing and the other major carriers provide- missing functionality include:
~Multiview
~Group Shot Camera mode - with the ability to change faces
~Mobile data toggle
~Blocking mode toggle
~Screen Recorder
Since I am trying to get the most bang for my buck (a lot of bucks) which Note II phone that will work on AT&T that has 4G LTE should I be looking at?
(note- I suffered waiting on an ICS update from AT&T, so not having to depended on AT&T for my Android updates is a big plus)
Any advise or pointers is appreciated
Thanks
1.yes
2.yes
I will never buy a phone with a att stamp on it.
This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100
non carrier branded
So if I go with an unlocked phone- non carrier branded, which model number should I get that will work on AT&T and have LTE?
I saw this on another review-
Update: LTE! There are many people commenting about this. Apparently there's a version of the international Note 2 (not the N7100) that sports LTE, the model number is N7105 and it comes with "LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100" (Sources: GSM Arena, Engadget and XDA forums). If you have a N7100 the LTE radio is simply not there. However this is not guarantee that the N7105 will work with AT&T's or Tmo's LTE, it all depends if those frequencies are compilant with those carriers' respective LTE signals. As LTE network compatibility can be a deal breaker for many people within the US, I suggest you to research very well before buying it. If someone can squeeze any info out of AT&T or Tmo, please comment. To shed more light on this issue, you can Google the xda thread 1917383. (Geez, all this makes me feel kinda happy I don't have to worry about LTE compatibility yet).
The only way to get lte with a note on att is with their model. If you can live with out lte the get N7100.in San Diego I get around 8mb down and around 2 up.
This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100
If you get the N7105, it will have LTE, but in the wrong bands for AT&T.
GT-N7105 (International Note 2): 800/1800/2600
SGH-i317 (AT&T Note 2): 700/850/AWS/1900
See how those don't line up?
I'd just get the 7100. You'll get 21mbps with that on AT&T with HSPA+ and you won't have any carrier BS. HSPA+ is pretty dang quick.
Might want to check this site too http://www.dailysteals.com/ got a good deal on note 2's today.
I am running the 7100 on AT&T in Phoenix. The lack of LTE does not bug me too often as the HSPA+ is good enough for my needs.
However, the OP stated that they would be rooting the phone. As such a clean bloat-free ROM for the AT&T phone would work on LTE. I have not been in the AT&T forums, but I assume there are bloat-free ROMs with all the missing features turned on.
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CrozB said:
I am running the 7100 on AT&T in Phoenix. The lack of LTE does not bug me too often as the HSPA+ is good enough for my needs.
However, the OP stated that they would be rooting the phone. As such a clean bloat-free ROM for the AT&T phone would work on LTE. I have not been in the AT&T forums, but I assume there are bloat-free ROMs with all the missing features turned on.
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Yes I plan on rooting the phone and installing a clean bloat free ROM. (rant) I just wanted to buy a phone with all the futures the EU version has and without the silly branding/bloat that carriers do, all they do is muck up the phone.

Why so little development on the N7105?

Hi all. I was hoping someone could explain why there is so little development on the N7105. Is there something about LTE that makes it harder to develop for?
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nattychris said:
Hi all. I was hoping someone could explain why there is so little development on the N7105. Is there something about LTE that makes it harder to develop for?
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I would rather say that the problem is that it is a "special model". The N7100 is the "standard model" that has broad availability and can be considered as the main product (compare with i9100, i9300, N7000 etc). Most users and developers buy the N7100 rather than the more restricted N7105 (that is a bit more of a carrier model, carriers without LTE etc offers the N7100).
I hope that it will change with the Note III but that means that the "N7200" (probable name) should have LTE - i.e. no more special editions - just ONE version for all. As long as LTE products are more of special versions with a heavy reliance on carriers, they will have less adaption than the more common HSPA model.
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I would rather say that the problem is that it is a "special model". The N7100 is the "standard model" that has broad availability and can be considered as the main product (compare with i9100, i9300, N7000 etc). Most users and developers buy the N7100 rather than the more restricted N7105 (that is a bit more of a carrier model, carriers without LTE etc offers the N7100).
I hope that it will change with the Note III but that means that the "N7200" (probable name) should have LTE - i.e. no more special editions - just ONE version for all. As long as LTE products are more of special versions with a heavy reliance on carriers, they will have less adaption than the more common HSPA model.
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Sum up about it! And since N7100 was out before the 4G, people got it before N7105 thus the lack of support, I was considering changing to N7105 of it ever released with bigger storage, but seeing the support is serious lacking, I've decided not to do it.
You could customise N7100 custom roms to flash for N7105, there's a thread for that and people reported got it working and everything.
You can also check the ATT Note 2 thread as there are several roms based on N7105 (with no modem).
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I wouldn't lose faith yet nattychris,
Those of us in Japan have only this week had our SC-02E version of the Galaxy Note 2 rooted.
I noticed that at least a couple of roms have been added or updated within the last 7 days for the N7105.
List (including N7105)

[Q] Purchasing Samsung Note 8.0 LTE for phone

Hi I want to buy a Samsung Note 8.0 for which model should I buy. I live in U.S. I know the LTE version here in US don't have phone capabilities. Can I install a custom rom for the one in US, if there is one, can someone point me to a thread. Please help, Thank you
magicman70 said:
Hi I want to buy a Samsung Note 8.0 for which model should I buy. I live in U.S. I know the LTE version here in US don't have phone capabilities. Can I install a custom rom for the one in US, if there is one, can someone point me to a thread. Please help, Thank you
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Though I don't live in US, I don't think you could add phone feature by changing the rom.
I think you would have to have the international version that permits calls. I'm not sure if that will work in the states though because of frequencies etc.
Galaxy Note 8.0 Xposed Build N5120XXCMH2 / Baseband N5120XXBMD9 / Kernel CivZ-SphereXtreme-REV on Telstra LTE
If you're looking at the AT&T branded Note 8, SGH-i467, there's a thread in this forum on getting the phone capability enabled. I don't think anyone has been totally successful doing that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430527
If VoIP will sufficiently meet your calling needs, you'll be fine with that model. If you don't want to deal with the idiosyncrasies associated with VoIP, get the international version, GT-N5100. The LTE frequencies won't work on AT&T's or T-Mobile's networks so you'll be at HSPA+ speeds, but it is a true 8" smartphone.
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If you're looking at the AT&T branded Note 8, SGH-i467, there's a thread in this forum on getting the phone capability enabled. I don't think anyone has been totally successful doing that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430527
If VoIP will sufficiently meet your calling needs, you'll be fine with that model. If you don't want to deal with the idiosyncrasies associated with VoIP, get the international version, GT-N5100. The LTE frequencies won't work on AT&T's or T-Mobile's networks so you'll be at HSPA+ speeds, but it is a true 8" smartphone.
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I bought one from amazon and it had calling capability. Should be the same for all of them.
The are different variants of the Note 8. Some have phone capability and some do not. The most common variant sold in the US (in Best Buy and big box stores) is WiFi only. The model sold in AT&T stores has LTE, but the phone functionality has been removed. The N5100, available thro some Amazon vendors, its a true smartphone, but only works on AT&T and T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
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afblangley said:
The are different variants of the Note 8. Some have phone capability and some do not. The most common variant sold in the US (in Best Buy and big box stores) is WiFi only. The model sold in AT&T stores has LTE, but the phone functionality has been removed. The N5100, available thro some Amazon vendors, its a true smartphone, but only works on AT&T and T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
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I use a note 8 LTE as my phone here in UK and am absolutly loving it....had to change from 3 mobile to O2 as 3 dont allow phone sims in tablets, seems O2 do cos its been working fine for about 3-4 weeks.
Rather than look foolish with a tablet next to my ear I purchased a galaxy gear which is not fully working as I am on stock 4.2.
Got rid of my note 2 and note 10.1 and have just a note 8, best thing I ever did!!!

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