I know I'm joining the Trophy party a little late (I'm getting mine after a friend upgrades to a WP8 device), but I've been browsing the internet and have seen so many interesting cases and other items for the Trophy, but I am wary about buying a case that isn't listed for the Verizon variant.
Are the two versions (Spark and Spark_W) identical physically? Will a Spark case work on the Spark_W?
Also, I've heard rumors that the slightly larger HTC TouchPro 2\Imagio\Evo 4G battery will fit the Trophy. Is this true? (Can one of the aftermarket Anker batteries also fit?)
Thanks.
EDIT: Discovered there is a major difference between the GSM and CDMA Trophy. Volume and power buttons are switched on the devices. Have to make sure that the cases are for the CDMA one if you're on Verizon.
pizzaboy192 said:
I know I'm joining the Trophy party a little late (I'm getting mine after a friend upgrades to a WP8 device), but I've been browsing the internet and have seen so many interesting cases and other items for the Trophy, but I am wary about buying a case that isn't listed for the Verizon variant.
Are the two versions (Spark and Spark_W) identical physically? Will a Spark case work on the Spark_W?
Also, I've heard rumors that the slightly larger HTC TouchPro 2\Imagio\Evo 4G battery will fit the Trophy. Is this true? (Can one of the aftermarket Anker batteries also fit?)
Thanks.
EDIT: Discovered there is a major difference between the GSM and CDMA Trophy. Volume and power buttons are switched on the devices. Have to make sure that the cases are for the CDMA one if you're on Verizon.
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Wah wah? As far as the case, both devices are physically the same. Every picture I have seen of the two phones shows the volume/camera/power buttons in identical locations. Just looking at the two side-by-side, I'm sure that there is no difference, so any case you buy should fit either (I recommend a Casemate personally.. I have the original version of the Casemate case and it has been awesome.. except for the little stand thingy).
Now, as far as batteries go, I have never observed a difference in the standard battery sizes between my HTC Eris/Trophy/Touch Pro 2, all the batteries fit perfectly, mind that they are of the standard capacity. I recently ordered the "Fosmon 2200mAh Extended Lithium-ion Battery w/ Cover for HTC 7 Trophy T8686" and am going to see if this fits and works well with the SparkW.
The differences between the Spark and SparkW are all in the hardware. I wanted to obtain a Spark for development, but now see no point (as I got an HTC Pro 7 [on Alltel] and you really REALLY have no choice but to downgrade bootloader's with anything but GoldCard method) as the perfect rom already exist for the device.
Are you planning on running Trophy on Verizon, or another carrier with unlocked sim card? This is where we see people go wrong, as most can't get HSPA+ data working with the VZW Trophy and another carrier.
TheXev said:
Wah wah? As far as the case, both devices are physically the same. Every picture I have seen of the two phones shows the volume/camera/power buttons in identical locations. Just looking at the two side-by-side, I'm sure that there is no difference, so any case you buy should fit either (I recommend a Casemate personally.. I have the original version of the Casemate case and it has been awesome.. except for the little stand thingy).
Now, as far as batteries go, I have never observed a difference in the standard battery sizes between my HTC Eris/Trophy/Touch Pro 2, all the batteries fit perfectly, mind that they are of the standard capacity. I recently ordered the "Fosmon 2200mAh Extended Lithium-ion Battery w/ Cover for HTC 7 Trophy T8686" and am going to see if this fits and works well with the SparkW.
The differences between the Spark and SparkW are all in the hardware. I wanted to obtain a Spark for development, but now see no point (as I got an HTC Pro 7 [on Alltel] and you really REALLY have no choice but to downgrade bootloader's with anything but GoldCard method) as the perfect rom already exist for the device.
Are you planning on running Trophy on Verizon, or another carrier with unlocked sim card? This is where we see people go wrong, as most can't get HSPA+ data working with the VZW Trophy and another carrier.
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I went to the Microsoft Store and typed in HTC Trophy into the search, and it came up with 2 kinds of case. One is listed as HTC Tophy (base) by Incipio, and the other is listed as just HTC Trophy by incipio (That's the brand of case that I purchased)
Looking at them, the volume and power buttons are on opposite sides. I had to go to Verizon's Site to find which layout I needed (I needed the one with the large cutout in the back, not the small cutout for just camera and speaker)
Compare http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...-HTC-Trophy-Base/productID.247343200/vip.true
to http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...e-for-HTC-Trophy/productID.247343500/vip.true
and you'll see what I mean. Headphone and power buttons are switched.
As for what carrier I will be using it on, I do plan on using it on Verizon. I have the grandfatered unlimited data plan and plan to cling to it for as long as possible. This means getting a WP7 device now, and a WP8 device when they are reasonable off contract.
My mother is still using her Touch Pro 2, so I plan to check battery sizes when I am home next to see how much bigger the TP2 battery is compared to the Trophy. I know it's only 200MAH, but that's still something. Plus, an Anker 1700mAH battery is designed to fit without a different battery cover in a TP2, so I would assume it would fit without an extended battery cover on a Trophy. And since my mother needs a new battery on her Touch Pro 2, I might as well get the 2 pack.
pizzaboy192 said:
I went to the Microsoft Store and typed in HTC Trophy into the search, and it came up with 2 kinds of case. One is listed as HTC Tophy (base) by Incipio, and the other is listed as just HTC Trophy by incipio (That's the brand of case that I purchased)
Looking at them, the volume and power buttons are on opposite sides. I had to go to Verizon's Site to find which layout I needed (I needed the one with the large cutout in the back, not the small cutout for just camera and speaker)
Compare http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...-HTC-Trophy-Base/productID.247343200/vip.true
to http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...e-for-HTC-Trophy/productID.247343500/vip.true
and you'll see what I mean. Headphone and power buttons are switched.
As for what carrier I will be using it on, I do plan on using it on Verizon. I have the grandfatered unlimited data plan and plan to cling to it for as long as possible. This means getting a WP7 device now, and a WP8 device when they are reasonable off contract.
My mother is still using her Touch Pro 2, so I plan to check battery sizes when I am home next to see how much bigger the TP2 battery is compared to the Trophy. I know it's only 200MAH, but that's still something. Plus, an Anker 1700mAH battery is designed to fit without a different battery cover in a TP2, so I would assume it would fit without an extended battery cover on a Trophy. And since my mother needs a new battery on her Touch Pro 2, I might as well get the 2 pack.
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Ah, I see, so it has to do with the stupid pictures on Microsoft's site that has lead to your confusion. Well, those case pics are wrong: Here is a picture/review of the GSM Trophy, and you can see it is very much the same outside, camera included.
I grabbed my Trophy in the last month before the end of unlimited data, so I understand wanting to keep it (I will be looking to buy a WP8 at full price as well). I'd love to try a 1700mAh battery, but I'm pretty sure the original Verizon battery is only rated at 1250mAh-1300mAh, so 1700mAh is a much bigger upgrade then you realize (the phone doesn't get that great of battery life, even with good reception and mild use). I'll be trying out the 2200mAh over-sized battery with replacement backing to see how it works (it was cheap, can't complain), so I'll be interested to hear what your results are with the 1700mAh battery.
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Ah, I see, so it has to do with the stupid pictures on Microsoft's site that has lead to your confusion. Well, those case pics are wrong: Here is a picture/review of the GSM Trophy, and you can see it is very much the same outside, camera included.
I grabbed my Trophy in the last month before the end of unlimited data, so I understand wanting to keep it (I will be looking to buy a WP8 at full price as well). I'd love to try a 1700mAh battery, but I'm pretty sure the original Verizon battery is only rated at 1250mAh-1300mAh, so 1700mAh is a much bigger upgrade then you realize (the phone doesn't get that great of battery life, even with good reception and mild use). I'll be trying out the 2200mAh over-sized battery with replacement backing to see how it works (it was cheap, can't complain), so I'll be interested to hear what your results are with the 1700mAh battery.
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This is what I"m looking at. http://www.amazon.com/1700mAh-Batte...urpose/dp/B0050MUSLY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
They say that it's a drop in replacement for an Evo 4G\Touch Pro 2\Whatever, and so I would assume that it's like the MugenPower 1800mAh that does the same thing for the Trophy.
I'm planning on buying it when I get the phone, and if it doesn't fit, I have 2 batteries for my mother's Touch Pro 2 to last her until she shears the display off or crushes it with her car again.
EDIT: canceled my order w\ Microsoft before it shipped. Going to look at the cases for a bit longer than 3 minutes and see if I can find out which one is the real one. I'd rather get the one with the small cutouts, but I doubt that is actually for the Trophy. I could buy it and see if it arrives and fits my phone. I'm seriously thinking that it probably is designed for the HTC Radar instead (looks rather similar to my GF's Radar case) and the wrong picture was posted.
(Just checked it against the Radar page on HTC, and the one that is listed as "base" is for the Radar) Going to probably order the other case soon so that I have one before they disappear.
pizzaboy192 said:
This is what I"m looking at. http://www.amazon.com/1700mAh-Batte...urpose/dp/B0050MUSLY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
They say that it's a drop in replacement for an Evo 4G\Touch Pro 2\Whatever, and so I would assume that it's like the MugenPower 1800mAh that does the same thing for the Trophy.
I'm planning on buying it when I get the phone, and if it doesn't fit, I have 2 batteries for my mother's Touch Pro 2 to last her until she shears the display off or crushes it with her car again.
EDIT: canceled my order w\ Microsoft before it shipped. Going to look at the cases for a bit longer than 3 minutes and see if I can find out which one is the real one. I'd rather get the one with the small cutouts, but I doubt that is actually for the Trophy. I could buy it and see if it arrives and fits my phone. I'm seriously thinking that it probably is designed for the HTC Radar instead (looks rather similar to my GF's Radar case) and the wrong picture was posted.
(Just checked it against the Radar page on HTC, and the one that is listed as "base" is for the Radar) Going to probably order the other case soon so that I have one before they disappear.
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Okay, so I got the 2200 unofficial battery, and it REALLY should only be used on Spark. See, there is one TINY difference in the battery cover, and it is a small clip in the upper right of the phone! On Spark is must be vertically, but on SparkW it is on horizontal! I didn't realize this and forced the cover on and it made a bit of a divot in the phone... since this is my frank-n-Trophy, I'm not considered (but impressed that the new back held up, didn't break.. and even broke the phone's case lol). I'll charge the battery and give it my "at work" torture test tonight.
Now, what I WISH I had seen was this: Official OEM HTC Trophy extended battery. It's rated at 2150mAh (so basically the same)... cost be damned its an official part, and this one is for the Verizon Trophy. Maybe I'll get one of these for my original Trophy.
I am digging the added weight. The phone finally feels as heavy as I wish it had (yeah, I'm a weirdo, I don't like light phones).
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Okay, so I got the 2200 unofficial battery, and it REALLY should only be used on Spark. See, there is one TINY difference in the battery cover, and it is a small clip in the upper right of the phone! On Spark is must be vertically, but on SparkW it is on horizontal! I didn't realize this and forced the cover on and it made a bit of a divot in the phone... since this is my frank-n-Trophy, I'm not considered (but impressed that the new back held up, didn't break.. and even broke the phone's case lol). I'll charge the battery and give it my "at work" torture test tonight.
Now, what I WISH I had seen was this: Official OEM HTC Trophy extended battery. It's rated at 2150mAh (so basically the same)... cost be damned its an official part, and this one is for the Verizon Trophy. Maybe I'll get one of these for my original Trophy.
I am digging the added weight. The phone finally feels as heavy as I wish it had (yeah, I'm a weirdo, I don't like light phones).
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Care to post a picture of the two backs side-by-side so I can see what you mean about the cilp?
Let me know how the extended battery performs. I know where to get just the official back for the extended battery pretty cheap (I hope) and may get the pair to try and save some money. Unless the Spark back still works fine.
And what do you mean by "frank-n-trophy"? Storage upgrade mod?
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Im about to get the T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro2 and if you all have seen it the back is awful, At least in my opinion looks like an old phone look,
I was wondering if you all thought the Battery Cover Door for the EU one will be exact fit as the T-Mobile one,
I want the Silver back then the Mocha i think it is back.
I reviewed it in real life then compared it to videos they look exact to me i wouldnt imagine them changing the actual phone.
If anyone knows that'll be great if they're exact fit before i pay $25 for it.
Silver one:
http://www.msgdigital.com/productdetail.asp?productid=47493&refid=froogle
T-Mobile One:
http://images.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/htc-touch-pro2-t-mobile-wing-ii-4.jpg
The mute button looks the same, The usb curve on the bottom though you cant see it is the same,
I dont think the T-Mobile one has 2 mics but thats just a hole, Thanks sorry if been asked.
Gotta go to work thanks for the replies if any knows.
for the life of me, i simply can't figure out why telcos always go and mess around with the handset's default design. in almost every instance they make it worse.
the device looks really cheap an the T3D is an earlier version than the default device
yea I'd like to know this too..for when I buy the device on AT&T. I want it to look as much like the euro version as possible.
anyone know if the euro battery cover would fit on the US-branded units?
Personally I like the backs of the default generic/Euro version and the Verizon versioin (I like the world map they included in the back, what can I say)
And the front I like the most is the Telux one. Unfortunately there's no chance of changing the front I'm guessing
I am not sure where you buy that phone, but the Dutch (The Netherlands) T-Mobile branded HTC TP2 has the original silver cover.
I see the picture you linked, and I agree it is ugly!
(The original TP did not have the nice black diamond back and no LED Flash, but the TP2 seems to be identical besides the T-Mobile logo's and the ROM as the real HTC-TP2)
Just to let yall know ill be ordering the back on Wednesday when i get the Phone, Ill post if it fits or not its only 20 dollars,
I'll personally when i get paid change the front outer border, also they sell the chromish or whatever front faceplate for i think 20 dollars might have to check a few times.
The T-mobile back is just so blah and the square speaker isnt nearly as cool as the round one going all the way down.
Like I said ill post if it fits or not i went to review it at my T-mobile store and i watched video from my G1 and it looks identical on the actual fit of the phone,
Lets hope right? I have seen the Sprint World Map one thats amazing looking but that back wont be out forever.
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for the life of me, i simply can't figure out why telcos always go and mess around with the handset's default design. in almost every instance they make it worse.
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I like that several US carriers went without chrome (Verizon's rim looks a little like black chrome). I don't really want shiny happy people to relate to me.
But generally speaking, you're right. Carrier's designfu is weaker than HTC's.
Unfortunately the world cover one won't fit on the normal gsm versions. At least I don't think it will as it must make more space for he 3.5mm jack.
The Sprint one looks weird... the brown is just ugly, but the back is an interesting design...
interesting good or interesting bad I haven't decided yet
Yea i forgot i about that, It looks the Exact same on the EU and T-Mobile one but the sprint is differnt from pictures that has been posted,
Reason why im waiting to order the back till wendesday is so i can do a detailed comparasion at home instead of at the malls T-mobile haha
Iv also seen custom Battery Back Covers floating around if any one is interested i think i seen them all on ebay/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-HT...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1274359769&sr=8-1
won't know if it's interchangeable untill the evo is released, but this looks like what an extended battery might look like
the one listed is 2300mAh
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http://gallery.coolsmartphone.com/main.php?g2_view=slideshow.Slideshow&g2_itemId=135
holy crap, looks like the phone is pregnant.
You realize of course that the cover provided with this battery is quite different than that required by the EVO right? I for one don't plane on duct taping a battery into my phone until the official cover comes out. Better to WAIT.
phobos512 said:
You realize of course that the cover provided with this battery is quite different than that required by the EVO right? I for one don't plane on duct taping a battery into my phone until the official cover comes out. Better to WAIT.
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of course... said it is what it might look like, our batteries look like they are bigger physically than the hd2's
holy crap that battery looks horrible, like it's got a diaper that needs to be changed
johnsongrantr said:
of course... said it is what it might look like, our batteries look like they are bigger physically than the hd2's
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I'd tend to agree - they look longer, and they also look like they mount in a different direction in the case. I have a feeling battery cases will be all the rage. Maybe Mophie already has one coming (as they make for the iPhone). I sent them an e-mail...We'll see what they say if anything.
extended batteries for the cdma hero will work....well should work.
Just so everyone knows the battery from the HD2 is a 1230mah and the standard one in the evo is 1500mah. So you will have to find an extended battery that works with the Hero or the TP2. Even then the battery covers will not be the same. I'd just wait.
Seidio has one for HTC Hero with 1750mah.
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Seidio has one for HTC Hero with 1750mah.
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I got a 2600mah for my hero for $18 on ebay. It is a knockoff but it gets me through two days.
don't know if anyone has seen the case that charges the evo.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-evo-4g-to-get-boatload-of-accessories-in-sprint-stores#2883258
upper right corner. i spoke to a sprint rep today apparently it's an after launch item for sure. and sprint might not even carry it initially may be exclusively through htc online for first couple months.
did you notice the back cover below it has an apple in the middle of it... Just thought it was kinda funny. Im holdin out for powermat to come out with there induction batteries.
thorpe24 said:
don't know if anyone has seen the case that charges the evo.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-evo-4g-to-get-boatload-of-accessories-in-sprint-stores#2883258
upper right corner. i spoke to a sprint rep today apparently it's an after launch item for sure. and sprint might not even carry it initially may be exclusively through htc online for first couple months.
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Thanks I was actually looking for more information regarding this exact case. I totally overlooked it when I looked through that gallery. I was thinking about holding off for that case but may go with a normal pouch. I liked the fact that it seemed to be an all-in-one. Protects, Charges, Holster, and Kickstand. Based on the mock photo however I prefer the Evo's own kickstand as the clip being used as a stand defeats the point of placing it horizontally and it covers the default one. Also not sure whats going to charge the phone, I'm assuming a powermat though as sprint sells them in store. Guess I'll have to wait for more information on it.
i think its more like a battery case like the one for the iphone
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did you notice the back cover below it has an apple in the middle of it... Just thought it was kinda funny. Im holdin out for powermat to come out with there induction batteries.
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god i hope so, that would be so nice
i'm sure it is it says "htc battery charging case with hostler" no kickstand if u use it though so yeah....
I had one of those cases for my iPhone. Probably made by the same folks...looks exactly the same...4 blue LEDs and all...
http://www.mophie.com/product-p/1059_jpa-ip3g-blk.htm
should be availible in the next month or so
chazglenn3 said:
I had one of those cases for my iPhone. Probably made by the same folks...looks exactly the same...4 blue LEDs and all...
http://www.mophie.com/product-p/1059_jpa-ip3g-blk.htm
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I spoke with Mophie regarding a product for the EVO and they replied they make cases for Apple products exclusively and have no plans to enter other markets.
hey there might actually be a white evo, if you look at the charging case it's whit. not talking about the apple looking one but the one above it.
thorpe24 said:
hey there might actually be a white evo, if you look at the charging case it's whit. not talking about the apple looking one but the one above it.
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That was actually the prototype version of the Evo. It originally had a satin silver speaker grill around the camera and rear speaker however in the final release the removed it and went with the solidblack with peaking red backing instead.
What a bunch of a$$hats
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I spoke with Mophie regarding a product for the EVO and they replied they make cases for Apple products exclusively and have no plans to enter other markets.
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What a great business decision. Align yourself with a single company, of course, that company has 4% of the marketshare on a carrier that blows monkey chunks, but hey, those that buy it are about as technologically clueless as most Luddites.
One more reason to never go apple.
sanjsrik said:
What a great business decision. Align yourself with a single company, of course, that company has 4% of the marketshare on a carrier that blows monkey chunks, but hey, those that buy it are about as technologically clueless as most Luddites.
One more reason to never go apple.
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As much as I hate it, It's not a completely boneheaded business decision. I mean, the iPhone is the largest single form-factor market. I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of new options soon. This is after all, Sprint's follow up to their last two "iphone killers" the instinct and the Pre. The EVO sold 3x more the first day than those two sold combined in their first weekend. You can't really blame them for taking a "wait and see" approach to preparing accessories.
Now that the EVO is a proven success (and a success with very little packed in the box) I'm sure they will be working quickly to supply the market.
I mean, my last phone, the vogue, came with a case, an AC charger, data cable, headphones, screen protection, dongles galore, extra stylus, etc. The instinct came with all that plus an extra battery.
I was wondering about all the reviews *****ing about no HDMI cable -- the EVO didn't even include headphones! The aftermarket for this phone will be very big. Eventually. Still not iPhone big, but big.
i really really want this case, i hope some info on it comes soon, seems like a wicked good case.
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As much as I hate it, It's not a completely boneheaded business decision. I mean, the iPhone is the largest single form-factor market. I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of new options soon. This is after all, Sprint's follow up to their last two "iphone killers" the instinct and the Pre. The EVO sold 3x more the first day than those two sold combined in their first weekend. You can't really blame them for taking a "wait and see" approach to preparing accessories.
Now that the EVO is a proven success (and a success with very little packed in the box) I'm sure they will be working quickly to supply the market.
I mean, my last phone, the vogue, came with a case, an AC charger, data cable, headphones, screen protection, dongles galore, extra stylus, etc. The instinct came with all that plus an extra battery.
I was wondering about all the reviews *****ing about no HDMI cable -- the EVO didn't even include headphones! The aftermarket for this phone will be very big. Eventually. Still not iPhone big, but big.
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You do know that Sprint just admitted that they may have "overestimated" those sales figures on the first day right?
thorpe24 said:
don't know if anyone has seen the case that charges the evo.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-evo-4g-to-get-boatload-of-accessories-in-sprint-stores#2883258
upper right corner. i spoke to a sprint rep today apparently it's an after launch item for sure. and sprint might not even carry it initially may be exclusively through htc online for first couple months.
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I really hope this case comes out, we need something like this considering the horrid battery life (*plugs phone in to finish post) of the evo.
monkeefied said:
I really hope this case comes out, we need something like this considering the horrid battery life (*plugs phone in to finish post) of the evo.
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did you check to see if your on gsm auto. And make sure friend stream is off. Also turn thing s off as you don't need them. Also overclock widget if u have root.
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Any word on this case....
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found this pic today when i searched for it
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found this pic today when i searched for it
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Looks fugly as hell, I actually like the slimness of the EVO w/o the girth.
Alternate Title: "Why Verizon and Samsung can Suck It"
DISCLAIMER: This post is purely my opinion and based on absolutely nothing except my experience with both batteries, and knowing Google and Verizon
The extended batter on the Nexus is perfect.......Too Perfect.
My nexus feels like an entirely different phone after.
Before, there was always an impending feeling that I that the phone was about the slip out of my hand. I could drop it at any moment. (with no case).
I slipped in the new battery in the VZW store parking lot and I couldn't believe what I was feeling. I'm still getting a case, but with this batter I'm confident I could hold on to it easily without one if I wanted to.
The back, that's maybe 1mm larger, completes the teardrop design of the phone PERFECTLY.
As several other have said, It just feels right.
My Theory: This is the phone that Google designed.
Do you think the engineers at Google looked at this amazing phone they designed and said "ok for the battery cover, lets go the opposite direction of the entire design and make the back concave IN THE OTHER DIRECTION"
No.
Do think they looked at this monsterous 4.5 inch samsung screen, and Verizons LTE network and said "Yea, lets put an 1850 mAh battery in this thing, even though we know the Bionic offers a whopping 2760 mAh extended battery and we could easily fit a 2100"
No.
What about common sense? What do you expect when you get an "exteneded battery?"
You expect it to be bigger. You expect it to stick out from the back. You expect it to mess up the lines and flow of the device because your trade off is a large capacity battery.
You don't expect the design to be lacking in the regular battery, literally noticeably wrong, and have the extended battery complete the real design.
Don't you think Google knows this?
With the extended battery this phone is too perfect, too symmetrical, the lines are too good, and common sense (Which you better believe Google wants in their flagship product) says they designed this phone for this battery.
So, Verizon or Samsung (or probably both, because they both get paid) made the deal with Google contingent on putting a smaller battery in the phone and thus creating the world's easiest upsell in the "extended" battery.
For people that already have the extended battery, I'm betting you agree.
If you don't have it yet, don't be quick to call BS on me here until you hold it in your hand. It's impossible to describe well enough the differences and perfection achieved until feel it and see it yourself.
I don't know about all that but this phone does feel awesome with the extended battery. I don't know why but before it felt very slippery and unstable.
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Alternate Title: "Why Verizon and Samsung can Suck It"
The extended batter on the Nexus is perfect.......Too Perfect.
My nexus feels like an entirely different phone after.
Before, there was always an impending feeling that I that the phone was about the slip out of my hand. I could drop it at any moment. (with no case).
I slipped in the new battery in the VZW store parking lot and I couldn't believe what I was feeling. I'm still getting a case, but with this batter I'm confident I could hold on to it easily without one if I wanted to.
The back, that's maybe 1mm larger, completes the teardrop design of the phone PERFECTLY.
As several other have said, It just feels right.
My Theory: This is the phone that Google designed.
Do you think the engineers at Google looked at this amazing phone they designed and said "ok for the battery cover, lets go the opposite direction of the entire design and make the back concave IN THE OTHER DIRECTION"
No.
Do think they looked at this monsterous 4.5 inch samsung screen, and Verizons LTE network and said "Yea, lets put an 1850 mAh battery in this thing, even though we know the Bionic offers a whopping 2760 mAh extended battery and we could easily fit a 2100"
No.
What about common sense? What do you expect when you get an "exteneded battery?"
You expect it to be bigger. You expect it to stick out from the back. You expect it to mess up the lines and flow of the device because your trade off is a large capacity battery.
You don't expect the design to be lacking in the regular battery, literally noticeably wrong, and have the extended battery complete the real design.
Don't you think Google knows this?
With the extended battery this phone is too perfect, too symmetrical, the lines are too good, and common sense (Which you better believe Google wants in their flagship product) says they designed this phone for this battery.
So, Verizon or Samsung (or probably both, because they both get paid) made the deal with Google contingent on putting a smaller battery in the phone and thus creating the world's easiest upsell in the "extended" battery.
For people that already have the extended battery, I'm betting you agree.
If you don't have it yet, don't be quick to call BS on me here until you hold it in your hand. It's impossible to describe well enough the differences and perfection achieved until feel it and see it yourself.
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This. The phone feels so much better in your hand with the extended battery cover, it needs to be experienced first-hand (no pun intended).
Although I have no idea whether google designed it that way or not.
I was actually thinking the same thing but considering the extended battery was only $25 I really don't mind paying for it.
I really dig the added weight. It feels more...solid?
Now I really can't wait to get this damn thing. Tomorrow hopefully. They said 2-day shipping when I ordered on Friday, today would make the 3rd day, but it didn't come. Bastards.
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Now I really can't wait to get this damn thing. Tomorrow hopefully. They said 2-day shipping when I ordered on Friday, today would make the 3rd day, but it didn't come. Bastards.
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same thing happened to me. i complained to fedex, gonna see what they say lol
Depending when you ordered Friday its probably shipped Monday. I ordered my phone and extended battery Friday night and while I got a shipped email sunday (I think) Fedex didnt actually receive the item from Verizon until Monday at 6 AM.
I can't decide about how I feel about the extended battery. Luckily, our phones here came with both 1750 and 2000 mAh and covers in the box so I can switch back and forth. The 1750 battery/cover has the back concave with the little hump on the bottom. I think that keeps the design a bit consistent with their other Galaxy's (S II, S II LTE). I agree with you that the extended battery cover completes the tear drop PERFECTLY which surprised me. On the other hand, I think the added weight just makes me feel like I'm going to drop it. It's defiantly noticeable and I prefer the weight of the 1750 battery.
I'm not sure if I want something more comfortable and light or something better looking with more power.
My ext. battery showed up yesterday. With as much as I'm playing/setting up the phone, I needed more juice. I like having the added power and don't mind the weight/size, plus it still fits in my Incipio case (slight bulge but nothing I'll worry about). Once my honeymoon phase is over with the GN, I can flip-flop between batteries should I need to. Plus it was $25, can't pass that up.
Also, just for grins I thought I would mention the verizon phone shell is thicker not just the rear cover compared to the GSM..... So seeing as they already re-worked it for the bigger standard battery it would make sense that the extended battery works well with it. Even tho I'm really not a fan of most Verizon phones due the the need for huge bricks for batteries that are notoriously packed on the back.....
Does anyone else have an issue where the ext cover is slightly popped up around the camera? You can basically push the cover in/out right below the camera.
I think I read someone else posting about the cover not seating, but I think it may have been the stock cover.
Holy crap! You were kidding about this thing. This phone should've just shipped like this in the first place.
kenyu73 said:
Does anyone else have an issue where the ext cover is slightly popped up around the camera? You can basically push the cover in/out right below the camera.
I think I read someone else posting about the cover not seating, but I think it may have been the stock cover.
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I have this issue on both the stock and extended battery, don't know why or if i should be worried about it though.
dipson626 said:
I can't decide about how I feel about the extended battery. Luckily, our phones here came with both 1750 and 2000 mAh and covers in the box so I can switch back and forth. The 1750 battery/cover has the back concave with the little hump on the bottom. I think that keeps the design a bit consistent with their other Galaxy's (S II, S II LTE). I agree with you that the extended battery cover completes the tear drop PERFECTLY which surprised me. On the other hand, I think the added weight just makes me feel like I'm going to drop it. It's defiantly noticeable and I prefer the weight of the 1750 battery.
I'm not sure if I want something more comfortable and light or something better looking with more power.
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I think you should send your fellow korean in the states your 2000 mah battery and cover
I want to get the extended battery, But I want to know that it will work with the real car dock (the one that uses the pin connectors) whenever that thing is finally in stock. I am really upset that verizon is selling that cheap car dock knock off right now and isnt offering any accessories that take advantage of the pin connectors right now. (probably because they dont work with cases and VZ would rather sell more cases right now.)
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[Long rant about a conspiracy that Verizon/Samsung are trying to force everyone into buying an extended battery]
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If Verizon/Samsung put as much thought into this as you believe they did then you'd think they would have also realized that it's going to be much harder to convince someone to buy an extended battery because it feels better than because they need the extra juice? I would probably side with you if the stock battery was 1600mA or something but it's a sufficient 1850mA and the extended battery is barely larger.
I do agree with you to an extent but to say that they purposely flawed the design is a pretty big statement to be making...especially when this phone sits on the shelf right next to the Droid X and Razr which have FAR worse backs than this phone. Verizon didn't coax Motorola into poorly designing their phones so that the Nexus's faults would fly under our radar did they?
Perhaps, I'll have an incredible moment of epiphany when I get mine in the mail today but for now I remain skeptical.
S4Rs said:
I want to get the extended battery, But I want to know that it will work with the real car dock (the one that uses the pin connectors) whenever that thing is finally in stock....
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It's only 1mm thicker...while that COULD be enough to make it fit improperly I doubt it.
i agree entirely with the OP. idk if samsung and/or verizon did it, or if google did it, but i do think that it was a bit of a cop out to put the crap factory battery in it. i think im going to pick up an extended today
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Alternate Title: "Why Verizon and Samsung can Suck It"
DISCLAIMER: This post is purely my opinion and based on absolutely nothing except my experience with both batteries, and knowing Google and Verizon
The extended batter on the Nexus is perfect.......Too Perfect.
My nexus feels like an entirely different phone after.
Before, there was always an impending feeling that I that the phone was about the slip out of my hand. I could drop it at any moment. (with no case).
I slipped in the new battery in the VZW store parking lot and I couldn't believe what I was feeling. I'm still getting a case, but with this batter I'm confident I could hold on to it easily without one if I wanted to.
The back, that's maybe 1mm larger, completes the teardrop design of the phone PERFECTLY.
As several other have said, It just feels right.
My Theory: This is the phone that Google designed.
Do you think the engineers at Google looked at this amazing phone they designed and said "ok for the battery cover, lets go the opposite direction of the entire design and make the back concave IN THE OTHER DIRECTION"
No.
Do think they looked at this monsterous 4.5 inch samsung screen, and Verizons LTE network and said "Yea, lets put an 1850 mAh battery in this thing, even though we know the Bionic offers a whopping 2760 mAh extended battery and we could easily fit a 2100"
No.
What about common sense? What do you expect when you get an "exteneded battery?"
You expect it to be bigger. You expect it to stick out from the back. You expect it to mess up the lines and flow of the device because your trade off is a large capacity battery.
You don't expect the design to be lacking in the regular battery, literally noticeably wrong, and have the extended battery complete the real design.
Don't you think Google knows this?
With the extended battery this phone is too perfect, too symmetrical, the lines are too good, and common sense (Which you better believe Google wants in their flagship product) says they designed this phone for this battery.
So, Verizon or Samsung (or probably both, because they both get paid) made the deal with Google contingent on putting a smaller battery in the phone and thus creating the world's easiest upsell in the "extended" battery.
For people that already have the extended battery, I'm betting you agree.
If you don't have it yet, don't be quick to call BS on me here until you hold it in your hand. It's impossible to describe well enough the differences and perfection achieved until feel it and see it yourself.
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FWIW the GSM version also has a smaller battery, smaller than the VzW version I believe, so you can't really pin this all on Verizon. But I do agree the extended battery makes for a better overall experience. I'm pretty much always around a charger so it's a non-issue for me, but I still go with the extended battery
Where are the pictures of this holy extended battery?
Update: nevermind, I don't have Verizon. Lucky you guys.
Hi all,
I just scored a used Galaxy Nexus, Sprint version, on eBay. It seems to be in good working condition, however the battery cover is not flush against the battery. There's actually enough space there that when I shake the phone, the battery shifts up and down in its housing, clicking against the cover. Is this normal with this model, or should I quickly take advantage of the 14 day return period?
Definitely return. NOT normal.
I would GUESS you have a standard battery with a cover for an extended battery
After Googling around a bit and looking at photos of batteries, it looks like my battery may have been switched in from a different Samsung phone, possibly a Galaxy S II. I suppose I could order a Galaxy Nexus battery and hope for the best, but I think I'm going with the return option. Better luck next time, I guess.
Pics of this? I didn't know gs2 batteries fit
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3rdstring said:
I would GUESS you have a standard battery with a cover for an extended battery
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On further examination, I think you're right. Someone helpfully posted a serious of comparison photos on the Amazon listing for the Verizon extended battery/cover combo, and the extended cover looks pretty much like mine. Now the question is do I return the phone (since standard covers don't seem to be available anywhere), or suck it up and buy a bigger (heavier) battery for this one?
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On further examination, I think you're right. Someone helpfully posted a serious of comparison photos on the Amazon listing for the Verizon extended battery/cover combo, and the extended cover looks pretty much like mine. Now the question is do I return the phone (since standard covers don't seem to be available anywhere), or suck it up and buy a bigger (heavier) battery for this one?
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Personally, I use both the stock and extended Verizon battery, but I only keep the cover of the extended battery on me. Not once have I had an issue with the smaller battery shifting out of place. I'd say you keep it if there isn't anything wrong with the phone and even ask the seller if they happen to have the stock cover lying around anywhere.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
If indeed you have the stock battery with the extended cover and don't wish to buy anything extra (although i would recommend getting the extended battery for longevity reasons aswell as fit) you could opt for the primitive fix: tape a piece of paper to the inside of the cover to hold it tighter.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus.