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finally thinking about rooting.help please

hi everyone
finally thinking about rooting i have a htc desire 2.2 but internal memory is becoming a problem
but i need to know the benefits?
will i able to remove some stock apps?so that internal memory is freeed up?
will apps2d able to move all apps to sd card?
what else will i able to do?
can i install a stock froyo rom without sense for my desire?im sure that would free up some space?

Yes, yes, yes and yes If you want all of the above, you can get it by rooting.
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thanks alot
how much memory free do you have on your desire?
does apps2sd move the entire application to sdcard or just the data?

This should not be in the Development forum, should've gone in Q&A

I have 100 mbs left after installing about 20 apps and a couple of games. Apps2sd will still use a bit of internal memory, but most of it goes to the sd.
EDIT: This is with ~30mb taken up from adobe flash and air on internal.
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mayurh said:
thanks alot
how much memory free do you have on your desire?
does apps2sd move the entire application to sdcard or just the data?
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i have 65 apps, ranging till 12MB per app, and yet, my internal storage has 133MB free

Just realised I was using Oxygen ROM and my sd ext wasn't mounted :S
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

noobandroid said:
i have 65 apps, ranging till 12MB per app, and yet, my internal storage has 133MB free
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wow that sounds good
you using leeroid right?
can i root and keep my stock rom and just uninstall all the apps i dont like? wil that free up more internal memory?
will apps2sd move apps on the stock rom?

mayurh said:
wow that sounds good
you using leeroid right?
can i root and keep my stock rom and just uninstall all the apps i dont like? wil that free up more internal memory?
will apps2sd move apps on the stock rom?
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App2sd does not work on stock roms but it does on most already rooted roms

shockem said:
App2sd does not work on stock roms but it does on most already rooted roms
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so it wont work even if i root my stock rom?i'l have to load a rom?
one thing im wondering
how come you guys are getting 140mb +- free with apps installed?
where did the space come from?

If you root your stock ROM then yes you can then use adb to remove system apps. The issue is they're not part of the internal storage but on a seperate system partition. This means removing them won't add space to downloaded apps
If you want to install hundreds of pointless, needless apps** then you're going to need a custom ROM which uses A2SD+ - LeeDroid is one example but I personally prefer either an MCR ROM from MoDaCo or the Desire HD port (RCMixHD). Both also extremely good ROMs
** This is my personal opinion, I don't use my Desire as a replacement for every other device I own so have no need to use excessive ammounts of apps

EddyOS said:
If you root your stock ROM then yes you can then use adb to remove system apps. The issue is they're not part of the internal storage but on a seperate system partition. This means removing them won't add space to downloaded apps
If you want to install hundreds of pointless, needless apps** then you're going to need a custom ROM which uses A2SD+ - LeeDroid is one example but I personally prefer either an MCR ROM from MoDaCo or the Desire HD port (RCMixHD). Both also extremely
good ROMs
** This is my personal opinion, I don't use my Desire as a replacement for every other device I own so have no need to use excessive ammounts of apps
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Tks
I don't have alot of apps
Maybe 20
Problem is copilot, flash, air, google maps etc
They take up alot of space, I'm not trying all apps

S-OFF then remove using root explorer

I have 69MB free with the following updates/apps installed:
1. Facebook (Update)
2. Twitter
3. Angry Birds (on SD Card)
4. Adobe Flash (Update)
5. Google Maps (Update)
6. Gmail (Update)
7. eBay
8. XDA App
9. Street View (Update)
10. App Manager
11. Dolphin HD Browser (on SD Card)
12. YouTube (Update)
13. EStrongs File Explorer (on SD Card)
So, for me, I don't NEED to root. I still do to try a new ROM if it's something that appeals but I love Sense - stock Android is so fugly

Hi,
If you're using Android (Froyo) you can I believe move, some, of the apps an data to the SD card using your existing ROM.
Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications.
Look at the downloaded apps and highlight one, it may or may not give you the option to move to SD card. The ability to move to SD is dependent on the Application developer in question. Hence, this doesn't work for all applications and data.
There are also some Market Apps that can scan the list for you, I tried "App 2 SD" by Sam Lu which seemed to work for me.
Regards.
Colin

noobandroid said:
S-OFF then remove using root explorer
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wat do i do this for?

I'm guessing for removing system apps...if you don't know what it is then don't even think about it at this stage

EddyOS said:
I have 69MB free with the following updates/apps installed:
1. Facebook (Update)
2. Twitter
3. Angry Birds (on SD Card)
4. Adobe Flash (Update)
5. Google Maps (Update)
6. Gmail (Update)
7. eBay
8. XDA App
9. Street View (Update)
10. App Manager
11. Dolphin HD Browser (on SD Card)
12. YouTube (Update)
13. EStrongs File Explorer (on SD Card)
So, for me, I don't NEED to root. I still do to try a new ROM if it's something that appeals but I love Sense - stock Android is so fugly
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i think the problem is i've tried out many apps and then removed them
so i guess mayb they left some files behind
ive got 20mbs free now
i've got these big apps
adobe flash
copilot(sd)
adobe air(sd)
maps
contacts storage ( 7mb
facebook update
twitter update
skype
asphalt
gmail update
rockplayer
launcher pro
handcent sms
slide it
angry birds
widgetlocker
astro
mxit
opera mini
qaudrant
appbrain
drive safel.y
to do tasklist
pool break pro
live sports 24 f1
3g watchdog
street view update
facebook for htc sense
barcode scanner
adyno
circluar battery indicator
anytime pool
paper toss
app protector
moment diary
sms schedular
astro bluetooth modeule
memory trainer
winamp
system info widget
engaget
google sky map
color note
wifi analyser
easy spirit level
smooth calender
task manager
fpt system manager
tone picker
sd move
home switcher
car mode
thats it
most of them are on the sdcard according to sd move and i've checked
some cannot be moved
i've already done the adb thing to set my default location to sd card
so most new apps go to sd
all apps with widgets are on the internal memory
i cant understand why i have so little memory left?

Because you don't have a lot of space in the first place. If you want more then you have no option other than to go with a custom ROM which uses A2SD+

[Q] How can I run CopyProtect apps from SD, to save built in storage space??

Ok I'm sure most Slide owners have run into problems with space on the phone, luckily for most apps you can move them and run from the SD card (w/ 2.2).
However with other apps that i have paid for - "documents to go" and and a few others labeled as "copy protected", even as root, I cant seem to find a way to move the apps to SD and run them from the external storage. I have no interest in pirating apps... but the ones i have paid for i think i should be able to run them from wherever... and my slide is seriously running out of space... as once you get the dreaded "low space warning" certain google and other apps fail to work / sync properly...
Does anyone have any ideas suggestions to circumvent and RUN the "copy protected" apps from the SDcard (I dont care about backing up apps... just want to run the apps i paid for from the SD card)
Also I have noticed that some google apps that can be downloaded from the market (maps, etc) also cannot be moved to SD... Additionally i have found that when there is a new version of an app available the new app sometimes does not ' get rid of ' or ' replace ' the old app so even small apps can take up a lot of space unless apps are periodically un-installed and then reinstalled.. for instance last time i checked "opera MINI" app was taking up 10MB, (with cache cleaned etc...) but after uninstall and re-install of "Opera Mini" now its like 1.1MB...
But it would really help to figure out how to move & run my paid apps from the SD card...

steve_77 said:
Ok I'm sure most Slide owners have run into problems with space on the phone, luckily for most apps you can move them and run from the SD card (w/ 2.2).
However with other apps that i have paid for - "documents to go" and and a few others labeled as "copy protected", even as root, I cant seem to find a way to move the apps to SD and run them from the external storage. I have no interest in pirating apps... but the ones i have paid for i think i should be able to run them from wherever... and my slide is seriously running out of space... as once you get the dreaded "low space warning" certain google and other apps fail to work / sync properly...
Does anyone have any ideas suggestions to circumvent and RUN the "copy protected" apps from the SDcard (I dont care about backing up apps... just want to run the apps i paid for from the SD card)
Also I have noticed that some google apps that can be downloaded from the market (maps, etc) also cannot be moved to SD... Additionally i have found that when there is a new version of an app available the new app sometimes does not ' get rid of ' or ' replace ' the old app so even small apps can take up a lot of space unless apps are periodically un-installed and then reinstalled.. for instance last time i checked "opera MINI" app was taking up 10MB, (with cache cleaned etc...) but after uninstall and re-install of "Opera Mini" now its like 1.1MB...
But it would really help to figure out how to move & run my paid apps from the SD card...
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Look for Dark Tremors Apps2SD in the development section. This will create a partition on your SD card that will allow apps be be moved. Unlike the default Apps2SD in CM, this should allow those specific apps to be moved.

is there any new updates on how to do this i tried installing dark tremors - but could not get it to work.... has there been any progress in this area? Is there some special way to install/use dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip?

HEY dud have you ever tried data2ext, it partitions a space in your memory card to not only install apps2sd, but that extra data that is eating up your phone space. I do not know if this will fix your copy protected issue, but before my phone only had 150mb space MAX! (on CM7 by the way, wtf!?!?) after i did the data 2 ext, my phone has over 472mb of free space and i have well over 50-100 apps installed and it takes no more than 70mb! (and i dont even have all of my apps on sd yet, it is about 5 or 6 apps with well over 10mb-20mb still on the phone memory. search these forums and i promise you it is on here!!!
if this helps, would u mind hittin the thanks button

problem in games

i can't download any game updates, alway asking for space and i have 16Gb sd card, help please
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alayan_82 said:
i can't download any game updates, alway asking for space and i have 16Gb sd card, help please
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Hello, the game might refer to your internal sd card, not external sd card

step by step
Games and applications can be installed on your internal SD (your phone memory) or your external SD. apps are installed on your internal SD by default. for moving an application from internal SD to external SD here is your steps:
settings -> applications -> manage appications -> (select your app) -> Move to SD card (button)
one of the other reasons that got this massage might be that your internal SD is full, but how it happens? when you download an application and install it, the application source will stay on your phone. it is because when you used a paid application, and for any reason deleted the application, next time you want it, you won't have to pay again. but if you download many programs and install them (or install and then delete them) source file of app will stay on your internal SD and it will get some space. browse a little in file manager app and you will find some of sources you don't want to.
be careful if you rooted your phone, maybe you delete an application that is necessary for your phone. only delete apps you know.

nimanr said:
when you download an application and install it, the application source will stay on your phone. it is because when you used a paid application, and for any reason deleted the application, next time you want it, you won't have to pay again
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This is nonsense. Information about your paid apps is stored in the cloud, on Google servers. You can even change your phone for a new one and you will be still able to download your paid apps stored under your account.
Sent from rooted GT-I8150 2.3.6 ~ Tapatalk 2.1.0

_jis_ said:
This is nonsense. Information about your paid apps is stored in the cloud, on Google servers. You can even change your phone for a new one and you will be still able to download your paid apps stored under your account.
Sent from rooted GT-I8150 2.3.6 ~ Tapatalk 2.1.0
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ninmanr telling the same stuff as you..
Let me make this clearer... Every apps leave what we call caches.
So there's four type data stored in your phone when it's installed:
APK at /data/app
data folder at sdcard (if created by app)
SQL DB entry
Cache and Configurations
Your best bet when uninstalling a program is clearibg the cache first, clear data, then uninstall.
But I believe you can do more when rooted. CMIIW

[Q] Android Revolution - basic question

Hello
Please forgive any non-tech language.
Please help - my recently-ex-boyfriend hacked my new phone and it now has Android Revolution on it.
I keep running out of space even though I don't have much on it - and looking at the storage in Settings, it seems that Android Revolution (542 MB) and Flash Boot (4.83MB) is taking up some of the space that I could do with freeing up.
Can I just delete them? Will everything still work?
I assume this is the case but could do with confirmation just in case it does anything to the phone that I can't undo.
He would help, but I don't like to ask.
So I'm relying on you guys - as he asked for help here when he messed up the hack in the first place!
Thanks in advance.
E

ecjl88 said:
Hello
Please forgive any non-tech language.
Please help - my recently-ex-boyfriend hacked my new phone and it now has Android Revolution on it.
I keep running out of space even though I don't have much on it - and looking at the storage in Settings, it seems that Android Revolution (542 MB) and Flash Boot (4.83MB) is taking up some of the space that I could do with freeing up.
Can I just delete them? Will everything still work?
I assume this is the case but could do with confirmation just in case it does anything to the phone that I can't undo.
He would help, but I don't like to ask.
So I'm relying on you guys - as he asked for help here when he messed up the hack in the first place!
Thanks in advance.
E
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if you just want to delete the rom from your storage then yeah go ahead...but just transfer it over to your pc just incase though for future reference...if everything is working for you then yeah go and delete it.

Thanks
While I've got your attention - can I manually update SuperSU? It's telling me I need to but I don't know what it is/does.
Thanks - I may be a frequent visitor until I work out what I'm doing!
E

ecjl88 said:
While I've got your attention - can I manually update SuperSU? It's telling me I need to but I don't know what it is/does.
Thanks - I may be a frequent visitor until I work out what I'm doing!
E
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That is what gives you the root. So yeah update that through the market..
And welcome

There may be another reason why you don't have so much space. There are a few threads on here about the disk losing a whole bunch of it's 25GB for different reasons. the .lost folder being one of them.

Aargh, really?
Yes, it does seem bonkers to me. I've gone through and deleted music I don't listen to. I only have one or two episodes of t.v. on there and it's saying 'no space' all the time. Is there anything I can do without roping him back in?
How do I diagnose what the space problem is? What will I see in .Lost?
And then what do I do to fix it?
You're going to regret helping me as I am a real novice...
Thanks so much!
E

Grab an app called "Titanium Backup" from the market, besides its utility as a backup tool it will give you visual and numeric summaries of how much space you have left on your System, Internal storage and SD card. Where is it saying that you are running out of space though?
If it is displaying that message when you are trying to install apps then it is likely that the market is a little broken, this can be fixed easily with titanium backup (you just clear all the market "links" and then use an option called "Market Doctor" to restore the correct links. (I remember reading that this can be a permissions problem too and using the "fix permissions" option from Clockwork can also fix, I haven't tried it although it cant do any harm)
From the sounds of it your SD card should have a ton of free space...

I assume this is on your internal sdcard? Or RAM? Where your applications go? If its your ram, then delete some of the applications you have installed. If its your internal SD card then try deleting the application data that applications download automatically. Download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm SD Maid system cleaner, it essentially does what I previously proposed for you.
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Ummmm
I think it's the internal SD card.
Specifically: I am using ADownloader and whenever I try to download something now it says there is no space (despite frantic deleting on my part).
And I have a calendar app which this morning was telling me it couldn't update data as there was no space on the device.
I'll try what you suggest and if there is an error message, I'll make a note and let you know exactly what it says.
Thanks, again.
E

ecjl88 said:
I think it's the internal SD card.
Specifically: I am using ADownloader and whenever I try to download something now it says there is no space (despite frantic deleting on my part).
And I have a calendar app which this morning was telling me it couldn't update data as there was no space on the device.
I'll try what you suggest and if there is an error message, I'll make a note and let you know exactly what it says.
Thanks, again.
E
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Download astro file manager and select SD usage and that will tell you whats using your space up.
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Stuart, storage is not RAM.
As I said earlier it sounds like your internal storage is full. Please give figures of capacity&used for:
Internal Storage
ROM
SDCARD

okay...
25.85 G capacity
25.06 G used
Free 791.81 M
13.42 G is music which is surely not much and 9% is Adownloader.
Help!
What next?
E

Installed Titanium Backup but it says:
"could not acquire root privileges.
Please verify that you ROM is rooted and incluces BusyBox and try again.
This attempt was made using the "/system/xbin/su" command."
I thought that Android Revolution meant that he had rooted it??
(if that's the right vocabulary I'm using....).
E

Ah except that under the error message it says:
System ROM 1.32GB (518 MB free)
Internal 2.26 GB (426 MB Free)
SD card 27.1 GB (830 MB free)
Does that help?
E

Can you take a few screen shots of the SD usage? I should have a good understanding of what needs to be deleted. Or you can wipe your SD card and transfer your music over once that's done?
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Okay I've done some searching and it seems that the best thing you can do is make a copy of your SD card on to your PC and then wipe it and transfer the data back. This seems to be a problem, but will most likely be fixed with a future update.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

I am trying to take screen shots as per the instructions but need a signal to get the auto-upload to work so that I can get them from phone onto here.
But, in summary, most of the 25 GB is music (67.9%).
E

Hi. Sorry, but how do I transfer the contents of the SD onto my computer?
I can connect using the cable and then... just drag and drop all the files?
And then... what do I do to wipe it on the phone and restore it?
Told you I was a non-teccie person!
Thanks,
E

Yup just drag and drop. Go to storage and then erase phone storage.
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[Q] moving apps and game data?

Just got a GT N7100 few days ago. rooted it. i have lots of games installed like max payne, gta3 etc. so all my storage is gone. i want to ask how do i move games and apps to external sd? can i backup game data which is everytime whopping over 1gb so that i do not need to download it again if i reinstall any game. is there any way to move gamedata to ext. sd?
and:victory: i just got idea if i do not uninstall game back but just backup gamedata and delete it from phone to free up memory and when i need app i just move back data to its original location which is usually android data, will it work.
i have 300 mb free space and now my phone doesnt allow me to install an app even less than 1mb of size..any idea......thanks in advance.......:good:

Moving to external sd has been asked and answered before. Here is one I replied to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010235
"can i backup game data which is everytime whopping over 1gb so that i do not need to download it again if i reinstall any game"
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No if you want to use the same files/folders on another phone. The game downloads files for your specs, not for other phones.
If its for your or another Note 2 then it might work if the game has not been updated since your backup. If it has been updated it might need the new files.

RE
what about if i do not uninstall game back but just backup gamedata and delete gamedata from phone to free up memory and when i need app i just move back data to its original location which is usually android data, will it work and yes i will be doing this on same phone.

That will probably work unless you open it by a mistake. Maybe not if it has the permission to run at startup. It could look for the files then, and not find any.
Both of the solutions i linked to works for me.
Directory Bind is most useful for me with this phone.
And then you don't have to wait for the copying every time you want to play a game.

re
can u shed some light on directory blind and how to use it?

I used this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550
Remember that apps with root access can do everything they want with your phone, including making it as usefull as a brick.
Don't use an app with root access until you think you understand a little of what it does, and you have read a few reviews/posts about it.
Be extra careful with root apps that are not in the Play store/Market. This is not. Why are they not there? Maybe because Google rejected it because it does bad things?
I wanted all of the data in the folder DirectoryBind on my external SD card. What you are supposed to do then (step 2 in that guide) is change the default data path to /mnt/extSdCard/DirectoryBind. I wrote /extSdCard/DirectoryBind because my Galaxy S II had a link to the microSD card there. The Note II does not, so the /mnt/ is important
Took me a while to realize what was wrong...

Thanks man .. DB did the job.....everything s now fine.

Startup soung stopped working?
hey man ! after installing DB startup tone doesnt work..any ideas?

The Samsung tone when you turn on the phone? I don't want that, so let me know if you find out what removed it.