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[Q] Will rooting to 2.3 disable htcsense.com?

Hi! I got my shiny new Desire HD yesterday (upgraded from an iphone) and by god do I love it, just perfect for me.
Although with it comes a lot of.. junk that I simply do not need (scrolling through a good 30 apps just to get to my most used), plus I heard that 2.3 (Specifically Cyanogenmod 7) brings with it better battery, better performance and with it being rooted, more features.
I'm looking to root it as soon as possible before I start putting a lot of things on it, rather than do a lot with it now and then have to do it again a couple months down the road.
My main question is, I love htcsense.com and I love the extra features it gives me, especially being able to track the phone, gives me much needed peace of mind, if I root to a 2.3 ROM (probably cm7) will htcsense.com no longer work?
Thankyou for any/all replies, oh and a little quickie at the end, I'm planning to go with cm7 because it seems the most basic and customizable for my needs, and battery life is a huge plus for me as I'm planning to use this beauty in and around college, is cm7 a good idea?
Thank you and have a great day.

If that HTC feature relies on having the app on the phone then it wont work as CM7 is not a Sense ROM and contains no sense applications.
Neither do I believe simply installing the apk, if possible, would work.
Be nice to be wrong though.
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Ahh, so in short, no?
Fair enough, is there a way to install the part needed for it to work after rooting it with cm7?

Probably not. Again, hope I'm wrong because it is a great utility that would otherwise cost you (Wavesecure app for example and I believe one of the anti-virus apps provides same functionality).
If anyone has the apk I'd happily try it but IIRC the apps rely on the Sense framework.
Bear with me, just checking this out.
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Confirmed. Without the apk installed the phone can't communicate with the HTC servers.
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Hi there,
i've recently rooted my Desire HD (and upgraded to 2.3.3) & I can tell you that HTCsense still works. No idea about if it still works on non-sense roms such as CM7 or not.
I've been using RCMix and Android Revolution roms in the past week & both of them are a lot better than the stock Froyo that my phone came with though.

Did a search and found an apk but it is confirmed that it will not run on AOSP ROMs such as Cyanogenmod.
The only option you have would be to run a Sense based ROM then install something like ADW.Launcher which has categorised app drawer (meaning you can choose what apps appear).
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Thankyou for the replies you've really helped.
Does sense rom mean, a rom that has HTC sense enabled? I assume it does.
Also, if I want to get 2.3+ android with sense so I can use the htcsense.com service, which rom would be best to root too? I've only ever heard of cm7, that's about it.
Thanks again!

Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!

h3dfuk said:
Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!
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Does it improve the battery life at all?
Oh also, is it easy to change back to the original ROM that came with the phone in-case of any warranty issues? Coredroid just doesn't look as.. polished as cyanogen, I could be completely wrong though.
If so, I'll root it today! Love the community by the way, I can't say anything bad about the iPhone community really, although they seem to care a lot less.
Does rooting to an Android 2.3 ROM bring everything that normal Android 2.3 brings and then depending on the ROM, special things? So it doesn't matter what ROM I get that's 2.3 they'll all have 2.3 Android features?

Do a backup in Tom manager in case you want to go back to your previous rom. Coredroid is a very fast rom IMO, but its dependent on how you use it much like any other rom really.
batery life is better than stock but again you will need to be mindful of gps and wifi etc. An awesome gingerbread kernel to improve battery life does not yet exist.

Fantastic, I'll give CoreDroid a try then, thankyou for your help, you've been very useful and informative.
One last thing before I begin the process, what is Tom manager? I did a quick google search and a look into the market but found nothing, did you mean Rom manager?

my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.

h3dfuk said:
my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.
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Ahh, I got it and I'm trying to backup my current ROM but I need to install "clockwordmod recovery" and whenever I try I get a "An error occurred while attempting to run privilged commands!" which is a shame.
Oh, and is there an up-to-date guide on how to root? Pardon my ignorance.

You need root first.
There's several "how to's" in the development forum. More information than we could put here (or should).

Sorry, I'm being incredibly silly, I keep getting ROM's and rooting mixed up, I'm in the process of rooting it now then I'll install a ROM, I haven't decided which yet but I might.. shop around, sorta speak.
Thanks for the help guys, take care.

Because sense apps aren't running in background, Cyanogen should be less stressful on the battery. However stock roms are usually not developed to maximize battery life in the same way custom roms are (afterall, battery life is a bugbear for developers too!). With this in mind, Coredroid even with sense is still better on your battery life than stock sense. Its all dependent on how you use it though (turn off GPS and wifi when no longer required etc..). Intensive use will naturally drain your battery sooner than conservative use. If you find battery life a pain with any rom, you could try juice defender free to automatically regulate consumption of battery.
Best advice, try a number of mods every week or so, and settle on one you like once you've experienced them. You souls also download battery calibrator from market and use after every flash to help you with the battery.

After a little soulsearching I'm going to give RCMixHD a try, it seems very popular which is usually a good sign, it has sense 3.0 and 2.3.3 Android so it's practically perfect.
The only thing I'm puzzled by now is "radios" I've worked out that they determine call reception and 3G+HSPDA whatnots, but do I actually need a new one before/after flashing to a new ROM? There seems to be a lot of radios out there and I have no clue which to go with and what they do.

Oh, also, does overclocking your phone as you have done have a huge impact on the battery life? I assume it has atleast some impact.

Only certain roms currently support overclocking, with some having the ability only after a kernel flash. CM7.0.2 however comes with ability without need to install anything else. You will need SetCPU to overclock and select a governor to regulate how power is maintained. You need to set minimum frequency when phone is idle etc.. It's easier than it sounds but do read into the overclocking threads for dhd we have here if in any doubt.

[Q] Custom Rom for desire hd

Hello to everyone on XDA-DEVELOPERS site
I have purchased 'HTC desire HD on Froyo 2.2' and upgraded it to Gingerbread 2.3.3 (GB).
Recently I came across new terms namely 'Rooting' and 'Custom ROM'.
I am interested in Rooting my 'Desire HD' device and interested to install a custom ROM to it.
Could you please suggest me a best 'Custom ROM' for my desire HD ?
I have few questions as well
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1. Once an android phone is rooted, can this be reverted back to non-rooted phone?
2. Whether there is a limit to flash number of Custom ROM's [at a time we can flash only one]. In case I found some problems with one Custom ROM then I can search for another.
Request everyone to help me with your experience and knowledge.
Thanks in advance !!!

The best custom ROM, for me who hates SENSE, is without a doubt HydrOG3nMOD. The only way to find the best ROM for you is to try them though!
To revert a rooted device is as simple as flashing the requisit RUU and your back to scratch, and there is no limit to the amount of ROM's you can flash so flash away (I believe some SAMSUNG(?) devices record the number of rom's flashed but HTC doesn't go in for any of those shenanigans).

Hi bro and welcome!
U can install as many custom roms as u want! (as long as u read well the steps and do all necessary required: i mean clear cash, etc... U'll read and learn )
Man, about the best rom, that is a personal experience and taste: i can tell u that X is my favorite while someone else will say Akkkkk that is the worst ever!
Open all roms, read abou them, read the feedback, the problems, the solutions etc... And see what you like!
There's sense (like the one u have now), there's non-sense (plain android like CM7) and there's MIUI (iphone like UI)...
Good luck!
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Some screenshots of a few roms.
A list of XDA roms.

Try different ROMs to see what you like best. I am currently using MIUI which is gr8!!!

Follow my Sig.
Sent from The Land that Time Forgot.

Only sky is the limit!

Hi and welcome to the world of flshing ROMs....I warn you though....now you have started you will never stop....its very, very addictive....lol.
I think the previous posters have covered this pretty well but I don't believe there is such a thing as a "best"or "perfect" ROM. Each one will appeal to a different set of users for completely different reasons.
The best way to go about it is to make yourself a "wishlist" of the features that you would really like and then start to narrow down which ROMs cover these.
Eventually you will find one that pretty much covers most of what you want, in the meantime you will have a ton of fun flashing and testing a whole heap of ROMs.
Cheers,
Jaybo

I don't think flashing ROM is addictive. However, it is fun to see your belove phone has better version and give you more freedoms. Custom ROMs are good but I prefer those are as close as stock. Since hardwares are not exactly the same to developer's, something weird may come to you.

Thanks all for sharing experts advice.
Now my reading phase has been started
1. 'how can I root my Desire HD as I have it on GB already' i.e. 2.37.762.2
2. Which tools to be used to root it ...
3. Which tools to be used for ROM Backup
4. Whether I can TEMP ROOT and flash the custom ROM or do I need to PERM root?
Thanks once again!!!

Please help me. I'm looking fro a good rom for my DHD. Unfortunately in many forums people say "It's depend on you" or "you should try"!!
I'm not agree with this. Each rom has specific features and it's impossible to try more than 80-90 roms!!! Is there any link that compares their features in details
These features are important for me and I need all these features if possible:
- speed and good performance needed,
- Two way call recording
- Highest possible camera quality
- most compatibility with different apps.
- Farsi or Arabic support (connected letters in this languages is important and many roms haven't)
- USB reverse tethering without third party apps or complex modification to use PC's internet. It's too important. I wan't to connect to pc easily and use PC's internet. I had this option on my Revolution HD as "Internet pass trough".
- Great battery life is important.
- Bug free in deal with hardware (Sensors, BT, Camera, WiFi,...)
NOT NEEDED:
- Graphical or animated or beautiful interface is not important at all.
- Strange modification and tweaks are not needed. I don't like to change CPU speed, Change GPU settings, sensors sensitivities and ..., I trust to Modder!
- - I don't use my phone as a gamer who always plays heavy games. Just daily and businesses tools and typical games and rarely heavy games.

Well, I still think only you will be able to judge what combination of factors/functions is important to you.
Since you value stability and the ROM being bug-free, with good battery, that filters out the ICS ROMs.
With Gingerbread, you can then decide whether you want Sense or not. A lot of ROMs offer both variants. The number of posts per ROM is not definitive, but order that subforum by posts and you'll see the ROMs that have been around the longest/have most users - indirectly that indicates interaction with the cook, the overall development status of the ROM. That criterion penalises the newer ROMs, but I don't think you are looking for ICS anyway.
You can start looking at Android Revolution (2 variants, 6.3.2 is the stock ROM which has been optimised, and 7.0.3 is a port - check out the first page for all options)
Leedroid's ROM is also worth considering.
I am not sure about Arabic support, I believe Revolution has it at least, I'd be surprised of Leedroid's didn't.
All the same, I would draw up a short-list of say 5, read up on them, and try them over a weekend.

paul c said:
Well, I still think only you will be able to judge what combination of factors/functions is important to you.
Since you value stability and the ROM being bug-free, with good battery, that filters out the ICS ROMs.
With Gingerbread, you can then decide whether you want Sense or not. A lot of ROMs offer both variants. The number of posts per ROM is not definitive, but order that subforum by posts and you'll see the ROMs that have been around the longest/have most users - indirectly that indicates interaction with the cook, the overall development status of the ROM. That criterion penalises the newer ROMs, but I don't think you are looking for ICS anyway.
You can start looking at Android Revolution (2 variants, 6.3.2 is the stock ROM which has been optimised, and 7.0.3 is a port - check out the first page for all options)
Leedroid's ROM is also worth considering.
I am not sure about Arabic support, I believe Revolution has it at least, I'd be surprised of Leedroid's didn't.
All the same, I would draw up a short-list of say 5, read up on them, and try them over a weekend.
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Thank you,
Currently I'm using Revolution HD about 2 months, but battery life is not so good and no call recording option is available. It has a lot of bloatwares too and the speed is not so good in compare with Cyanogen roms. I installed Leedroid some hours ago. I didn't like it at firs look. I'll work with it till tomorrow.

Installed Cyanogenmod Rom. It's working perfectly just the camera quality is not good . How can I make it better? The best camera quality was in "MIUI Rom".
What I've found till now:
MIUI: It was buggy in wifi and many of apps, but design and simplicity was great. Camera quality was great too. low file size with higher quality than Revolution HD photos, battery life not tested.
Revolution HD: Battery life wasn't good. too bloatwares. medium camera quality in compare to miui.
LeeDroid and CoreDroid: MUCH Heavier than Revolution. Tweaks and settings options was so good.
Cyanogen: The fastest so far, 2-way recording is working, speed is great, PC's Internet sharing works using "reverse tethering tool". Not satisfied with camera quality. please help how can I improve it?
ICS based rom: ICS Cold Sandwich and MIUI (ICS Based) are still too buggy.
please help me if I'm wrong. "Camera quality", "Battery life" and "2-way call recording" are most important for me.
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update: Persian (Farsi) and Arabic works fine on all of them. Just some need additional patch, but works.

armin3000 said:
Installed Cyanogenmod Rom. It's working perfectly just the camera quality is not good . How can I make it better? The best camera quality was in "MIUI Rom".
What I've found till now:
MIUI: It was buggy in wifi and many of apps, but design and simplicity was great. Camera quality was great too. low file size with higher quality than Revolution HD photos, battery life not tested.
Revolution HD: Battery life wasn't good. too bloatwares. medium camera quality in compare to miui.
LeeDroid and CoreDroid: MUCH Heavier than Revolution. Tweaks and settings options was so good.
Cyanogen: The fastest so far, 2-way recording is working, speed is great, PC's Internet sharing works using "reverse tethering tool". Not satisfied with camera quality. please help how can I improve it?
ICS based rom: ICS Cold Sandwich and MIUI (ICS Based) are still too buggy.
please help me if I'm wrong. "Camera quality", "Battery life" and "2-way call recording" are most important for me.
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update: Persian (Farsi) and Arabic works fine on all of them. Just some need additional patch, but works.
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You could try opening root explorer then navigate to /system and long press build.prop and go to open in text editor and look for these lines:
ro.media.enc.jpeg.quality=100
ro.media.capture.maxres=8m
ro.camcorder.videoModes=true
media.stagefright.enable-player=true
ro.media.dec.jpeg.memcap=8000000
ro.media.enc.hprof.vid.bps=8000000
media.stagefright.enable-meta=true
media.stagefright.enable-scan=true
media.stagefright.enable-http=true
media.stagefright.enable-record=true
ro.media.enc.hprof.vid.fps=65
if you don't have them, you can just add them to the bottom..hope this helps!

david.degraw54 said:
You could try opening root explorer then navigate to /system and long press build.prop and go to open in text editor and look for these lines:
ro.media.enc.jpeg.quality=100
ro.media.capture.maxres=8m
ro.camcorder.videoModes=true
media.stagefright.enable-player=true
ro.media.dec.jpeg.memcap=8000000
ro.media.enc.hprof.vid.bps=8000000
media.stagefright.enable-meta=true
media.stagefright.enable-scan=true
media.stagefright.enable-http=true
media.stagefright.enable-record=true
ro.media.enc.hprof.vid.fps=65
if you don't have them, you can just add them to the bottom..hope this helps!
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Thank you. It just Got better, but still I'm not satisfied with that
I think Revolution HD and MIUI Rom were more better. Specially the MIUI. Am I right?! Is it depends on kernel or it's just depends in confuguration like what you said. Actually I didn't work a lot with MIUI and I had it installed only for few hours, and photos were on the phone not PC, But I had Revolution HD for months.
Do camera Apps improve the quality or it's all about the rom and kernel and all apps are using the same thing?

I would stick with android revolution. In sense 3.5 you get the best camera quality and it has great battery life.
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Guys I just have a simple question (I'm kinda new to these)

Hey guys I have galaxy w (I bought it 10 or 12 days ago).Don't worry i studied my lesson.I know how to root,flash,install apk etc.
I rooted my phone and installed REM ICS.But i'm not happy with it.Because it has a few problems
In the first place, i want to tell you what i'm looking for.
I just want proper sms app (no mms converting), WORKING gps,menu customization [not by date or title (i'm happy with touchwiz)]
Most important -> goot battery life.That's all folks.
But i can't find a rom that meets my wishes.
Now i'll install rebel rom 3.0.6.
But if you have a recommendation PLEASE let me know.
p.s. : I'm sorry if there are grammar mistakes.Thanks in advance. :good:

CyanogenMod Alpha 8 version should be good to you
but you have the SMS to MMS converter on everyrom (i think) & touchwiz
but normally in options you can adapt it
good batterylife & performance
Or BioHazard has it all (based on cyanogenmod)
just flash the ROM + extra sms file (to get normal sms lay-out) - Biohazard customisation - good batterylife & performance (& touchwiz)
has jellybean 3 features & customisation
EhndroiX is a nice rom based on cyanogenmod
but it has it flaws, batterylife isn't perfect but it's a smooth ROM
it also has touchwiz and Jellybean lay-out
Personally i'm running EhnDroix right now but i'm thinking to switch to cyanogenmod (due to the better batterylife) or biohazard
Now about the GPS function you can use Google Maps / Navigation, you can also download Sygic GPS (look on some forums for a "free" version of it )
then you will have a free offline GPS system with TomTom maps navigation
i hope i helped you out a bit
grtz

S440 said:
CyanogenMod Alpha 8 version should be good to you
but you have the SMS to MMS converter on everyrom (i think) & touchwiz
but normally in options you can adapt it
good batterylife & performance
Or BioHazard has it all (based on cyanogenmod)
just flash the ROM + extra sms file (to get normal sms lay-out) - Biohazard customisation - good batterylife & performance (& touchwiz)
has jellybean 3 features & customisation
EhndroiX is a nice rom based on cyanogenmod
but it has it flaws, batterylife isn't perfect but it's a smooth ROM
it also has touchwiz and Jellybean lay-out
Personally i'm running EhnDroix right now but i'm thinking to switch to cyanogenmod (due to the better batterylife) or biohazard
Now about the GPS function you can use Google Maps / Navigation, you can also download Sygic GPS (look on some forums for a "free" version of it )
then you will have a free offline GPS system with TomTom maps navigation
i hope i helped you out a bit
grtz
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Thanks for your long message.But i couldn't see touchwiz option in ehndroix.Anyway i don't know if camera function works in cyanogenmod 8 alpha.

burak9393 said:
Thanks for your long message.But i couldn't see touchwiz option in ehndroix.Anyway i don't know if camera function works in cyanogenmod 8 alpha.
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touchwiz is there on EhndroiX (i'm running it..)
and the camera function is available in alpha 8
when you go to the Galaxy W I8150 Development topic, you can see the progress made and a changelog to base you on through all the versions
grtz
Ps. Click on thank you button if i helped you

Ive been using SGW for a lot of time now, when i had the stock rom i used ADW laucher for the menu. As for the battery life, keep 3G turned off or install JuiceDefender, it turns on 3g every X minutes, instead of keeping it on all the time. It also adjusts the brightness. My battery would last nearly 3 days that way with moderate calling.
Hugs.

Also i wonder if there is something wrong with my original samsung charger.When i charge my phone with its original charger, battery drains quickly (%85 in 2.2 hours).But when i charge it with my friend's htc's charger it downs to %97 in 2 hours.Just weird.

burak9393 said:
In the first place, i want to tell you what i'm looking for.
I just want proper sms app (no mms converting), WORKING gps,menu customization [not by date or title (i'm happy with touchwiz)]
Most important -> goot battery life.That's all folks.
But i can't find a rom that meets my wishes.
Now i'll install rebel rom 3.0.6.
But if you have a recommendation PLEASE let me know.
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As I know Rebel ROM is not coming with a TW launcher, you may try Black Notes Last Page if you wish, it came with a TW launcher, just for your info, in Black Notes, you would have to reboot your phone after running the 99SuperCharger init.d script, as it may cause you unable to receive your message, but it wouldn't really affect you if you don't run the script. Hope it helps.
burak9393 said:
Also i wonder if there is something wrong with my original samsung charger.When i charge my phone with its original charger, battery drains quickly (%85 in 2.2 hours).But when i charge it with my friend's htc's charger it downs to %97 in 2 hours.Just weird.
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Are you using the USB cable as charger? That one will be much slower than the charger. For a decent battery life, I would recommend you to use a GB ROM with Juice Defender at this moment, because the battery life for CM9 may be vary from version to version at this moment.

I use its original charger (mini USB).I installed rebel rom it seems like it's okay.But i'm not sure yet.

Ok it sucks more i know it now.SMS problems,slow browsers,performance sucks

Looking for good battery life? Most of the GB roms provide good battery life. Not so sure with ICS roms, right now. If you don't mind using GB rom, i would recommend you MUTANT ROM, not bad.

burak9393 said:
Hey guys I have galaxy w (I bought it 10 or 12 days ago).Don't worry i studied my lesson.I know how to root,flash,install apk etc.
I rooted my phone and installed REM ICS.But i'm not happy with it.Because it has a few problems
In the first place, i want to tell you what i'm looking for.
I just want proper sms app (no mms converting), WORKING gps,menu customization [not by date or title (i'm happy with touchwiz)]
Most important -> goot battery life.That's all folks.
But i can't find a rom that meets my wishes.
Now i'll install rebel rom 3.0.6.
But if you have a recommendation PLEASE let me know.
p.s. : I'm sorry if there are grammar mistakes.Thanks in advance. :good:
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If you are looking for an economical premises ROM battery GB ROM only the best in my opinion.
I myself have come back to GB after I felt in CM9 b8 only for reasons of battery.
I myself use kezra v4 final ROM, kernel xxlm8. And what you need everything works fine here.

Try cm9 beta 1, major issues fixed,read the thread
Sent from my GT-I8150 using xda premium

dollyaja said:
Try cm9 beta 1, major issues fixed,read the thread
Sent from my GT-I8150 using xda premium
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Also, try upgrading baseband. Older baseband might have bugs that made it too aggressive and/or not smart enough to tune power usage.
Back in the CM9 thread, someone posted that he experienced a great boost in battery life after upgrading baseband.
Word of caution: make sure that the newer baseband is compatible with your country's networks.
_____ Galaxy W + Mutant ROM + xda app _____

[Q] Newb at Android - CM10 yes or no?

Hello!
I have HTC One V PrimoU. I'm newb for that. Leave PC, there... And also there, I'm not in Linux... So, just to explain:
I used "HTC One V All-In-One Toolkit V1.2 [10-8-2012] [PERM ROOT] [Noob-Proof]", flashing recovery with TWRP 2.3.1.0 and Kernel with 3.0.16-Titanium-Kiss.
Happy with my new rooted device, I put on some root apps, that were suggested on page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907885&highlight=app+for+root
So far, so good. I'm more that happy OK, I disabled HTC Sense with Titanium, but I also managed to restore phone back, so, no real harm done... Yes, I'm still learning - well, also, I couldn't find the list of HTC One V apps that you MUST leave alone... Searched all the net, found some on XDA, some on other sites, but - for newb (or noob) like me, it would be helpful...
But, somewhere, in the back of my head is still a question: Shoud I go for CM10? And if yes, why? - I read all thread of CM10, but still, what will I gain? For sure, CM10 will not turn my proc into quad ;-D Also, is there a valid reason why our phone will not get Jelly Bean officially? Forget ram, it's excuse for what?
However, I'd like to hear from you. I don't need much, gimme one reason to go there and I'll be there...
Appreciate all your answers, + and - , just keep smiling...
Best regards, Mat

Oh, forgot the most important...
THANK YOU!!!
For all that made tutorials which I followed to root my device... YOU'RE THE BEST!!!
And I'm more than happy when my phone, during the boot, tells me, in that red letters, that I won...
Best regards to all, Mat

I'm not an expert but I DO find some reasons to switch into CM10:
1) butter project really makes Jelly Bean fast and smooth
2) no lags anymore
3) more optimization options
4) smoother switching between apps
5) nicer lockscreen
However, there are some drawbacks that should be taken into consideration:
1) camera - poorer quality, occasional accidental killings, no more stock options, the graphical processor on HOV wastes..
2) battery drain - but not much of a problem, you can use e.g. Juice Defender to block the consumption
3) some other minor bugs

THANKS!!!
meehow81 said:
I'm not an expert but I DO find some reasons to switch into CM10:
1) butter project really makes Jelly Bean fast and smooth
2) no lags anymore
3) more optimization options
4) smoother switching between apps
5) nicer lockscreen
However, there are some drawbacks that should be taken into consideration:
1) camera - poorer quality, occasional accidental killings, no more stock options, the graphical processor on HOV wastes..
2) battery drain - but not much of a problem, you can use e.g. Juice Defender to block the consumption
3) some other minor bugs
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Thank you - I needed just that - But, for the sake, waiting (not even thinking that you don't know all) for some "god" to tell me the same and I'll go for CM10...
Best regards, Mat

i see u used my guide, m honored
dude see i wud recomend u cm10 cause in sense the RAM usage is more unless u have desensed
and its personal opinion cause some peole like the sense UI and some like the AOSP/CM10/AOKP UI now i hate sense, its just sad(no offence)
i wud say u try out differeent ROMS i settled for PA now and i would say if u have problems check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996665

THANKS!!!
cybervibin said:
i see u used my guide, m honored
dude see i wud recomend u cm10 cause in sense the RAM usage is more unless u have desensed
and its personal opinion cause some peole like the sense UI and some like the AOSP/CM10/AOKP UI now i hate sense, its just sad(no offence)
i wud say u try out differeent ROMS i settled for PA now and i would say if u have problems check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996665
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That's was what I was waiting for...
I'll go for it, no doubt
Thank you very much again, as your guide is really THE ONE to follow...
If you'll have a chance to be nearby, I owe you a sixpack or two...
Best regards, Mat

cybervibin said:
i see u used my guide, m honored
dude see i wud recomend u cm10 cause in sense the RAM usage is more unless u have desensed
and its personal opinion cause some peole like the sense UI and some like the AOSP/CM10/AOKP UI now i hate sense, its just sad(no offence)
i wud say u try out differeent ROMS i settled for PA now and i would say if u have problems check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996665
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Well, I am not offended but Sense seems objectively a bit old-fashioned in comparison to pure ICS or JB.. And what is more, it's slower..
Greetings,
Mike

bratusm said:
That's was what I was waiting for...
I'll go for it, no doubt
Thank you very much again, as your guide is really THE ONE to follow...
If you'll have a chance to be nearby, I owe you a sixpack or two...
Best regards, Mat
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haha! sure mate

[Q] Which ROM offers the following?

I've searched, trawled and read through so many threads and cannot make my mind up which way to turn (I'm so indecisive). There is so much choice (which is a good thing in some ways and not so good in others) but it's confused the hell out of me. I could flash various ROM's and kernels all the while having to restore my data each time and run it for a while to see if it is suitable for my needs. This seems to the moderators general consensus for those asking what the 'best ROM' is (Understandable). But this (having to flash ROM's and kernels each time) is tedious and there is always some element of risk that you could end up with a bad flash the more you do this.
So here I am asking. Please note I am *NOT* asking which the best overall ROM is. I understand perfectly well that there is no best ROM and each ROM has different functionality and features that are suited to different peoples needs. I am asking which ROM suits *MY* needs. If moderators decide that I am asking what is the best ROM then I guess I will have to try harder to argue my case.
I don't mind if it's GB, ICS or JB - obviously I would *LOVE* to have a JB ROM but it's still in its infancy and has certain issues simply because there is and never will be an official JB ROM for my phone (Thanks Sony!).
My current setup is a 2011 Arc S currently running JJ Hybrid 3.1 (still) and ArcKnight kernel (forget which build).
I am not overly interested in fancy GUI's, themes, extra functionality or overclocking, although it would nice to have them 'just so long as they don't impact on performance and stability'.
Things I want.
#Rooted with CWM is a given obviously
#As lag free as possible (It takes several seconds to launch Contacts at present and laggy key presses in the phone dialer annoy)
#Good battery performance
#Increased memory
#Bloatware removed
#Removal of or fixed/tweaked default apps (For some reason the default browser sucks CPU/battery dry and I have disabled it on current ROM).
#Smooth 720p video (is this even possible either in the FW or through a mod?)
#Good camera performance (Use a mod?)
#Status bar with quick toggles and notifications
#Good WIFI, 2G,3G/HSDPA performance (especially if 3G is tweaked as I get poor signal in some places)
#Bravia engine (1 or 2?)
#Correctly functioning hardware including LED's/Side LED/Buttons/Sensors (brightness, rotation etc)
#STABILITY (as little bugs as possible basically)
#Easy upgrade path between builds (not having to wipe data each time although I realize this is sometimes required)
#WIFI tethering
I don't care much for HDMI output but if it works it's a bonus. Things like USB OTG and USB mass storage would also be useful but not essential.
I think that's all of it. If moderators still feel this is a 'best ROM' thread feel free to contact me privately to cast your warnings. Hopefully though they will see this is a bit more specific than that and actually asks more pertinent questions rather than a blanket 'which ROM is best' question.
Thanks for reading

I can't comment on a rom, but for camera, most definitely Cybershot mod . Pictures look amazing

jman2131 said:
I can't comment on a rom, but for camera, most definitely Cybershot mod . Pictures look amazing
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Thanks. I will look into it. Seems it's only for ICS ROM's but if there is an ICS ROM that meets the above criteria I will check it out.

For me, right no, Atomic Gb 3.0 Xtreme Silencer is going to update it to 3.1 now, so u can flash it. It is the most complete ROM now for me, with almost everything u said in ur list
Download it here

Hi.
While this may not be a best ROM thread as you say, its just as equally annoying. You've listed what most of us want from a ROM, and as you say you've read this that and the other then its time to pick one and flash it. If you think the process of flashing custom ROMs is tedious then learn how to mod, tweak a stock ROM to your own liking then you won't need to rely on others to tell you what to flash.
Sent from Myushi

luiseteyo said:
For me, right no, Atomic Gb 3.0 Xtreme Silencer is going to update it to 3.1 now, so u can flash it. It is the most complete ROM now for me, with almost everything u said in ur list
Download it here
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How is video recording and playback and the camera?

XperienceD said:
Hi.
While this may not be a best ROM thread as you say, its just as equally annoying. You've listed what most of us want from a ROM, and as you say you've read this that and the other then its time to pick one and flash it. If you think the process of flashing custom ROMs is tedious then learn how to mod, tweak a stock ROM to your own liking then you won't need to rely on others to tell you what to flash.
Sent from Myushi
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deadman3000 said:
How is video recording and playback and the camera?
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Did u read that? Flash and test yourself

We can't say, what fits you, we don't know your life. You know it the best, you should find the perfect one.
XDA is not a place, where people are slaves, stop being lazy and do something yourself aswell.
Look at ROM's overviews, features, functions, read comments (if you want to know more about the ROM) etc.
Try them, put them to the test in regular usage. Then you find one. We can't say, which one is good for you.

yeah he is right!
Atomic Gb is awesome !
xtremesilencer has done some great work to make it!
ohhh wait a min!
i am xtremesilencer that was a joke
and if you want to know about a rom then go to the thread or check the feedback
dont open new new threads !!!!!

I'm on ICS because of the mobile data manager (built in, doesn't work on gb) as i have a limited data plan.
I'm right now on the xperia t rom, it is really great, the battery lasts up to two days. (3-4 hours display on, around 10h mobile data and wifi is always on).
Using the stock 587 kernel. Never had such an amazing battery life
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Whilst I understand the sentiment of 'try them for yourself' and 'you are just being lazy' and 'read the comments' etc. It takes *TIME* I don't need overclocking. I don't need all the fancy themes. I don't need a ton of tweaks other than those that meet the basic requirements I have listed.
As I said whilst there is a healthy development community on this particular device, it is hard work to find the right ROM. I have to go through the list of ROMS, kernels and mods in the thread stickied in 'General' (I noticed at least one ROM is missing from that list btw). On the whole it does not tell me a lot other than name, ROM, base (GB, ICS, JB) and then you have to spend a lot of time trying to find out all the info about the ROM by going to the ROM's thread, read about it's features, how to install it, which kernels work best with it, how to fix, patch or workaround any problems found (usually buried deeper into the thread with sometimes 'hundreds' of replies so you might not know about the patches and workarounds until you actually install it and when you ask in the thread someone says it was mentioned earlier in the thread which you now have to search through) etc etc ad nauseam.
I'm just looking for a shortlist of ROM's to try based on others opinions that meet my criteria.
I do also believe that there should be a sticky that instead of ostracizing members for asking 'which is the best ROM' as there currently is (which I know can be annoying for the moderators) instead should offer opinions and experiences. Which ROM's offer which features and how well they perform and yes, perhaps even a poll.
This would be the 'go to' thread for all those people (including myself) who are stuck for choice.
But perhaps this is too much work (I guess you could say to me I should do it then and keep it updated since I am so interested in it)...
The forum is chaotic as it is. But this is the nature of forums.

deadman3000 said:
Whilst I understand the sentiment of 'try them for yourself' and 'you are just being lazy' and 'read the comments' etc. It takes *TIME* I don't need overclocking. I don't need all the fancy themes. I don't need a ton of tweaks other than those that meet the basic requirements I have listed.
As I said whilst there is a healthy development community on this particular device, it is hard work to find the right ROM. I have to go through the list of ROMS, kernels and mods in the thread stickied in 'General' (I noticed at least one ROM is missing from that list btw). On the whole it does not tell me a lot other than name, ROM, base (GB, ICS, JB) and then you have to spend a lot of time trying to find out all the info about the ROM by going to the ROM's thread, read about it's features, how to install it, which kernels work best with it, how to fix, patch or workaround any problems found (usually buried deeper into the thread with sometimes 'hundreds' of replies so you might not know about the patches and workarounds until you actually install it and when you ask in the thread someone says it was mentioned earlier in the thread which you now have to search through) etc etc ad nauseam.
I'm just looking for a shortlist of ROM's to try based on others opinions that meet my criteria.
I do also believe that there should be a sticky that instead of ostracizing members for asking 'which is the best ROM' as there currently is (which I know can be annoying for the moderators) instead should offer opinions and experiences. Which ROM's offer which features and how well they perform and yes, perhaps even a poll.
This would be the 'go to' thread for all those people (including myself) who are stuck for choice.
But perhaps this is too much work (I guess you could say to me I should do it then and keep it updated since I am so interested in it)...
The forum is chaotic as it is. But this is the nature of forums.
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Unfortunately, that's what most people would have to go through to actually find a rom that they would stick with. Luckily I tried 1 and never moved away because it was suffice. Here's a list to shorten the task, tremendously for you
Ultimate HD
Beautiful ICS
Jelly Sandwich - I've been using this one for months without changing. I'd recommend version 7.4 as it's stable and anything version 8 and above are a hassle to install and have ugly icons =/
Atomic GB - The only gingerbread based rom listed as opposed to ics so bear in mind the cybershot wouldn't work
I can't really comment on any of these roms' 'personal sufficiency' other than jelly sandwich, but these are the ones I would test if I were you good luck

well XDA is a dev site where devs share their creations for each other, they're not obliged to put them up here and frankly it takes a billion times more work to make a rom than to look through the ROM threads
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Xperia T ROM is the way to go!
I too was in the same state 3-4 months back and all I wanted was a stable & smooth ROM (better than stock, of course). So, I went thro most of the threads and based on the feedback of many, I narrowed down on Ultimate HD. Sure its a better ROM and I was happy using it for close to 2 months. But after prolonged usage, it started to lag. Only then, I started experimenting with multiple ROMs.
There are ROM u would start hating it immediately after installing it and there are which will make u to stick with it for a while. After testing bunch of ROMs, I finally landed on Xperia T ROM. Its not the most talked about ROM around, but definitely has its own fan following and Im definitely going to be one among them. It has all the MODs that I wanted (toggles, latest apps, cybershot, small apps etc...) and yet it offered smoothness and free RAM of close to 100 MB. Most importantly, it offered loads of options while installing (in Aroma Installer). So, you can pick and choose whatever u want. It is one of the few ROMs wherein Sound Enhancements in Walkman player and Online mode in Album works out of the box without any tweaking!
So, I suggest you to give it a shot. Im sure u wont regret it

Hmm. Just read that T ROM has broken wifi tethering. Also read that AOSP ROM's don't have in call mute? It's quite a bit involved installing that ROM by the look of things too. I will monitor the thread for a while though and ask about the in call mute feature.

Sometimes, it's not about the ROM, it's the mods you flash on the ROM. I have been using stock ROM for quite some time and I have flashed a few mods to tweak and improve the stock ROM. You can go to the Themes and Apps section to find these kind of mods.
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AW: [Q] Which ROM offers the following?
Use the stock rom and flash mods you want..
Your mixing everyrthing up, battery and performance, perfect stability and design....