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Deleting System Apps

Rooted using Unrevoked. Have Root Explorer installed and Titanium. I know the system apps are in the folder: System/Apps When using Root Explorer I don't have the options. To uninstall the apps bit I can delete them. However, after deleting them the programs are still there. Same thing happens when I try to do it with Titanium. Is there something I'm overlooking?

System Apps do not get installed/uninstalled. Deleting them is all you need to to. However, since it appears you are still running the stock ROM you need to make sure you delete the corresponding odex file too.
I only had the stock ROM for about a day before I rooted and installed a different ROM (which was deodexed). BUT, I recall reading that both files need to be deleted.

I suggest that instead of deleting the files place them in a backup folder just in case you might need them later on. As mentioned before you must move the APK and its associated ODEX file if it has one. Sprint applications tend to be updated so uninstall the updates then move the Sprint applications using the aforementioned method.
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so i have to move the sprint apk files and odex files (if applicable) before I can delete them? I already tried deleting them w/o backing them up or changing their location but they keep coming back!

SantinoInc said:
so i have to move the sprint apk files and odex files (if applicable) before I can delete them? I already tried deleting them w/o backing them up or changing their location but they keep coming back!
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Are you mounting the apps folder with "rw" privileges before deleting?

Yes, I am. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I swear to god these ****ing apps come right back after I reboot the phone. I delete them with Titanium and/or Root Explorer and after a little while they pop up again. I have no idea what is going on. I rooted with Unrevoked 3.21...maybe something didn't go right?
I also can't get BusyBox to install which is a major pain in da ass because so many apps need it

[Q] Adding own apps into cm7?

hi guys, just switched to cm7.1, its a good rom, i was wondering if its possible to add your own apps into the rom and then flashing it? what i mean is to add your own essential apps into the rom and then to zip it so it uses up more rom space and leaves more internal space. if there is a method, can some one please give some idea on it. thanks

Of course it is. Just copy the app's apk from /data/app in the /system/app folder of the zip file.

Thanks but can you explain abit more in detail please, like if i put the apks in that folder, will the apps automaically be installed? and as for the rom zip file, will that need to be zipped up back in a special way? also will the apk's need to be signed with a special program? a small accurate guid would be sweet. thanks

There are two ways, either manually open the zip (no need to extract it) then just drag and drop your apk files to the System/app folder or data/app folder then close the window. Sometimes it doesnt work it depends I think on how the files was compiled or something.
Or use ROM manager. Look it up in the forums.
Edit: Its Rom Editor if my memory recalls it correctly.

kuljit55 said:
Thanks but can you explain abit more in detail please, like if i put the apks in that folder, will the apps automaically be installed? and as for the rom zip file, will that need to be zipped up back in a special way? also will the apk's need to be signed with a special program? a small accurate guid would be sweet. thanks
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No, just open the zip and stick the apk's in that directory. Then when you go to flash just disable signature verification..
I'm not sure as to how this will go about saving space though.. it's the same as installing apps AFAIK

bortak said:
I'm not sure as to how this will go about saving space though.. it's the same as installing apps AFAIK
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In a way it does save space. I remove some apps that I don't need from the CM zip like ROM Manager, live wall paper etc and then add my apk files on system instead of it being saved in data folder.

Sthankyou, can i manually move apps in the data folder into the system with root explorer? i am s-off.

kuljit55 said:
Sthankyou, can i manually move apps in the data folder into the system with root explorer? i am s-off.
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with root explorer yes, but I don't think they'll actually be installed just by putting them there..

kuljit55 said:
Sthankyou, can i manually move apps in the data folder into the system with root explorer? i am s-off.
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Yes you can manually install apks to the system/app using root explorer. But you have to modify the permission of the apk file upon transferring. It is best that you first copy the apk from the data/app folder to sd. Then uninstall the app. Then use root explorer to transfer the app from sd to system/app. Update the permission then reboot.
Take note that not all apps will work with this method. Some apps just needed to be on the data/app folder based on my experience.
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Or use titanium backups "Covert to system app" functionaility

rootSU said:
Or use titanium backups "Covert to system app" functionaility
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Yup. I forgot about that. Yeah damn easy too.

Permanantly removing system apps

Hey guys if I'm posting this in the wrong section delete it
I've been trying to find an app for rooted devices to allow you to permantly remove system apps but haven't managed to come across 1 yet :/ does anybody know if there's an app that does this? What do you use?
I've seen the story's about the root managers etc but alot of people say the come back after a reboot?
Thanks dudes
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All you really need to do is delete the corresponding *.apk file in /system/app. I'm not 100% sure what the current android install process is, there might be some sort of registry system or framework installation that takes place elsewhere among the system; but deleting the .apk file has always worked fine for me.
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To do this you first have to have root access, which I assume you have. You then need to remount /system as r+w (read and write access, by default the /system mount is read only). You can do this with many an app from the Android Marketplace, just search for "remount".
This will then allow you to use your favorite root-enabled file browser, be it a terminal on your phone or something entirely different, to browse to /system/app and remove said *.apk file.
Let me know how you get on.

you must be rooted...and you can download any file explore to delete them
Edit: tolate he has better explanation
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Titanium Backup is the best choice. Make a backup of it first, then delete it. That way it'll save you a headache when you delete phone.apk by mistake.

Titanium backup is bull**** when removing system apps... It just freezes.... Try root uninstaller (free from market).. It takes seconds to uninstall system apps...
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salarkhel said:
Titanium backup is bull**** when removing system apps... It just freezes.... Try root uninstaller (free from market).. It takes seconds to uninstall system apps...
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bull****? have you tried the uninstall option and actually looked through /system/app? I'm pretty sure the .apk you just uninstalled has disappeared.
but anyway, there are a number of ways to do this as the others above have helpfully explained

maatsby said:
bull****? have you tried the uninstall option and actually looked through /system/app? I'm pretty sure the .apk you just uninstalled has disappeared.
but anyway, there are a number of ways to do this as the others above have helpfully explained
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i can confirm that titanium works for this....

Thanks guys yea titanium works fine i can finally get rid off all the **** i don't want and use
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Saving or Storing .apk's

I'm about to start buying a few different apps, and want to save them on my PC so I can have them for either future use or if I am gonna be wiping my phone, returning it, getting another phone, etc... Anybody save them straight to their computer from amazon.com, or can I pull them off my phone thru Kies after dowloading from the market? Then I guess I'll also need to know how would I get the apk running once I put it on my SD Card? Sorry in advance if this is a dummy question- it's my first run at this and there are tons of different opinions and people pitching their softwares on google search and youtube that span back to 2009, so I'd like to see what someone who knows how and has a T989, Thanks!

Download astro file manager (free) from the market and u can back up your apk's. Save them to ur sd card and transfer it to ur pc.
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zero86ea said:
Download astro file manager (free) from the market and u can back up your apk's. Save them to ur sd card and transfer it to ur pc.
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You can also use JRUMMY6 apps - Ultimate app manager pro or ROM Toolbox Pro. This will save the apk as well as the settings for that app.

CincoDeDrinko said:
I'm about to start buying a few different apps, and want to save them on my PC so I can have them for either future use or if I am gonna be wiping my phone, returning it, getting another phone, etc... Anybody save them straight to their computer from amazon.com, or can I pull them off my phone thru Kies after dowloading from the market? Then I guess I'll also need to know how would I get the apk running once I put it on my SD Card? Sorry in advance if this is a dummy question- it's my first run at this and there are tons of different opinions and people pitching their softwares on google search and youtube that span back to 2009, so I'd like to see what someone who knows how and has a T989, Thanks!
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Here's a quick guide:
1) Download and install a file explorer application that can write to the system partition. You can use ROOT explorer or ES file explorer. I'm not sure if astro has system writing capabilities.
2) Go into the application and enable root access and the ability to write to system. For ES, you go into settings then scroll down and check "Up to Root" and "Root Explorer" and "Mount File System"
3) Navigate to the apk files that you want to save. For user apps, it's under /data/apps and for system apps (memo, contacts, etc.) it's under /system/apps. Now you probably default to /sdcard so you'll have to go up one more level to reach the root directory (it'll just be "/") to access system or data. Save those apks.
4) If you want to restore these apks to a future phone/ROM, it's the same idea, except you just have to copy paste the files to the directory that you found them in. But you have to watch out for odexed/deodexed apps because they're not compatible. So if you go into /system/apps or /data/apps and you see a .odex file after each respective .apk file, you won't be able to install those apps to a ROM that is deodexed. If you go into those directories and you only see .apk files, you won't be able to install those apps on a stock ROM (almost all custom ROMs are deodexed).
5) All you have to do is copy the files into the directories and reboot, you don't have to install them or anything. Some will say that you should change the permissions to (rw- r-- r--) but I've tried both ways anecdotally and I don't think it makes a difference whether you do or not.
Although I'm not sure why you want to go about it this way, if you have titanium backup it'll do all your backing up and restoring for you. The only thing that I use this method for is for the memo.apk which I use but isn't included on all ROMs. TB doesn't back this up because it's a system app. So this process is really only necessary for system apps.

yoft1 said:
Here's a quick guide:
1) Download and install a file explorer application that can write to the system partition. You can use ROOT explorer or ES file explorer. I'm not sure if astro has system writing capabilities.
2) Go into the application and enable root access and the ability to write to system. For ES, you go into settings then scroll down and check "Up to Root" and "Root Explorer" and "Mount File System"
3) Navigate to the apk files that you want to save. For user apps, it's under /data/apps and for system apps (memo, contacts, etc.) it's under /system/apps. Now you probably default to /sdcard so you'll have to go up one more level to reach the root directory (it'll just be "/") to access system or data. Save those apks.
4) If you want to restore these apks to a future phone/ROM, it's the same idea, except you just have to copy paste the files to the directory that you found them in. But you have to watch out for odexed/deodexed apps because they're not compatible. So if you go into /system/apps or /data/apps and you see a .odex file after each respective .apk file, you won't be able to install those apps to a ROM that is deodexed. If you go into those directories and you only see .apk files, you won't be able to install those apps on a stock ROM (almost all custom ROMs are deodexed).
5) All you have to do is copy the files into the directories and reboot, you don't have to install them or anything. Some will say that you should change the permissions to (rw- r-- r--) but I've tried both ways anecdotally and I don't think it makes a difference whether you do or not.
Although I'm not sure why you want to go about it this way, if you have titanium backup it'll do all your backing up and restoring for you. The only thing that I use this method for is for the memo.apk which I use but isn't included on all ROMs. TB doesn't back this up because it's a system app. So this process is really only necessary for system apps.
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TI backup also just requires the pro license key to be stored in the same location as the backup directory. this way you can change roms and get Ti pro back without needing to re purchase.
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try using root explorer
then goto the data/app directory copy your apps and move to whatever folder that you like. then if you want you could sign up for minus and upload all your apks (they have a 2gb upload limit so it works great). Or just connect hercules to computer and pull files from folder you copied to to your computer.

rom tool box pro backs up ALL your installed apks on your sd. manual install and market installed.

[Q] Debloating

Hi all,
Is there a list of LG apks/odex files that we can delete without causing problems on LU6200. I really can't use most of them and it makes my drawer messy especially with korean captions which I can't read.
Thanks.

Yeah. Same for the AT&T P930.
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I managed to get rid of unnecessary apps by obtaining root. Then I enabled root explorer on ES file explorer. I then renamed those apks whose icons match those applications that i want to get rid of. At first I just try to rename them then if nothing bad happens after I reboot, I delete them. I use ES file explorer as it shows the icons of the apps so it is easy to associate the apks with the application. I still have 3 or 4 apps that I want to get rid of but I can't find the corresponding apks.

dyurdz said:
I managed to get rid of unnecessary apps by obtaining root. Then I enabled root explorer on ES file explorer. I then renamed those apks whose icons match those applications that i want to get rid of. At first I just try to rename them then if nothing bad happens after I reboot, I delete them. I use ES file explorer as it shows the icons of the apps so it is easy to associate the apks with the application. I still have 3 or 4 apps that I want to get rid of but I can't find the corresponding apks.
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i use titanium backup to remove all the bloat and unnecessary system apps !
works fine for me all the time !