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I want to know if its possible to read my contactless work ID card with my phone and then use the phone as my ID by tapping it to the reader.
I don't know if this is even possible and my question isnt about the Nexus as much as it is about My ID card, but if anyone can help me figure out what kind of ID card I have and how that would or wouldnt work with the hardware in the Nexus, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
There is some sort of chip in your ID or is just a bar code you're trying to scan?
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There is some sort of chip in your ID or is just a bar code you're trying to scan?
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Some sort of chip. I tap the card to the reader in the elevator and at the front door to the office.
I don't even need to tap the card directly, I keep the card in my wallet and tap my wallet to the reader and it picks it up fine.
Let me know if I can provide any more info.
Thanks
I can't think of anyway to extract the information from the chip, but you could always cut the chip out and tape it inside the battery door. I wouldn't think anything would interfere with the chip, but I guess would might need to have an undamaged ID card.
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I can't think of anyway to extract the information from the chip, but you could always cut the chip out and tape it inside the battery door. I wouldn't think anything would interfere with the chip, but I guess would might need to have an undamaged ID card.
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Yeah, that wouldn't work, it doubles as a picture ID as well so I would need to keep it undamaged.
I've seen apps that read and store data when tapped with a credit card, so I was hoping someone would be able to provide similar info for how to do it with an ID card. I don't know enough about the different NFC and RFID technologies and what the nexus is capable of. Was hoping someone on here might be able to help.
Check out this thread from a few months ago. People came to the conclusion that it isn't possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368907
gbenj said:
Yeah, that wouldn't work, it doubles as a picture ID as well so I would need to keep it undamaged.
I've seen apps that read and store data when tapped with a credit card, so I was hoping someone would be able to provide similar info for how to do it with an ID card. I don't know enough about the different NFC and RFID technologies and what the nexus is capable of. Was hoping someone on here might be able to help.
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From what I understand, data that's on most RFID cards is encrypted and the NFC antenna on the Galaxy Nexus (and Nexus S) is not currently capable of interpreting the data. It certainly seems that the possibility is there though seeing as how they usually operate on the 13.56 MHz frequency.
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El Daddy said:
Check out this thread from a few months ago. People came to the conclusion that it isn't possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368907
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Thanks, that's a big help...indeed doesn't seem possible, at least not yet.
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Thanks, that's a big help...indeed doesn't seem possible, at least not yet.
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I posted this on another thread, but I think it is worth it here also. HID is beta testing using NFC technology for card access with Blackberry devices. Youtube HID Global Pilot Arizona State. NFC uses 13.56Mhz frequency. The HID iClass readers should work ONCE HID gives the customer the ability to get the software used to tether the phone to your computer and connect to the "secure" part of the Android OS and create a credential. It is coming. Just waiting on HID Global to make it happen.
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I posted this on another thread, but I think it is worth it here also. HID is beta testing using NFC technology for card access with Blackberry devices. Youtube HID Global Pilot Arizona State. NFC uses 13.56Mhz frequency. The HID iClass readers should work ONCE HID gives the customer the ability to get the software used to tether the phone to your computer and connect to the "secure" part of the Android OS and create a credential. It is coming. Just waiting on HID Global to make it happen.
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Thanks, cool video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqnOiA20wg) for those that don't want to search.
I hope that will become available for the rest of us at some point.
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Thanks, cool video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqnOiA20wg) for those that don't want to search.
I hope that will become available for the rest of us at some point.
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Glad it helped. Hit me up on the thanks meter if you don't mind. I'm trying to get some credibility here.
Which online shop should I buy blank NFC tags from that ships to Asia, Singapore? Recommendations?
BryanChung said:
Which online shop should I buy blank NFC tags from that ships to Asia, Singapore? Recommendations?
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still dont know wat nfc is... i know u can use it as a credit,card, but what about debit？ and what s with the tag？
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Kevin Ma said:
still dont know wat nfc is... i know u can use it as a credit,card, but what about debit？ and what s with the tag？
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+Near+Field+Communication?#
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+Near+Field+Communication?#
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LOL!!! What a link!
I have had great experience from Tagstand - http://www.tagstand.com/
They say they ship "International" but not sure how far they will go. Great customer service though.
opensourcefan said:
I have had great experience from Tagstand - http://www.tagstand.com/
They say they ship "International" but not sure how far they will go. Great customer service though.
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We are supposed to order those that are NDEF formatted right?
Has anyone found an actual practical use out of these tags yet? Am tempted but not really sure if I'm tempted just for the sake of it being new tech.
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Has anyone found an actual practical use out of these tags yet? Am tempted but not really sure if I'm tempted just for the sake of it being new tech.
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Check out the Creative uses for NFC tags thread for suggestions. Lots of people are using them to change phone settings when the they get into the car - turn off wifi, turn on car mode, increase notifcation volume, etc. and for setting alarms.
You can use NFC Task Launcher to change your settings and you can pick up the tags for a couple of quid here.
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Has anyone found an actual practical use out of these tags yet? Am tempted but not really sure if I'm tempted just for the sake of it being new tech.
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Haha same here! I am tempted for the sake of trying something new!
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Has anyone found an actual practical use out of these tags yet? Am tempted but not really sure if I'm tempted just for the sake of it being new tech.
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As was mentioned, the best use I've found is switching to and from different settings profiles depending on where I am. Some might say Tasker is good for this, and they're probably true, but as far as I know using Taskers location based setting changing can only go so far.
This allows fine grained control. Say you work on the same block that you live, but you want different settings for work and home...Tasker won't be able to do that for you. With these, though, you just stick one to your desk at home (or door, as some people apparently are doing ) and stick one to your desk and work. It's fast, simple, and convenient.
Also, they allow you to do a thing called profile tags. Basically, it allows you to switch between one set of settings and another using the same tag. I have one next to my nightstand that'll switch my phone to home mode on the first tap and switch it to sleep mode on the second tap...very nifty
All in all, they're a minor time saver. But they're cheap and easy to program, so why not?
Peter
I just bought 10 from buynfctags.com. I ordered them last Thursday and they arrived Saturday from Seattle, WA to Plano, TX with standard shipping.
The only problem I found is each item has a 5 item minimum. Total was about $12 for 5 cards and 5 keyrings. I got the NTAG variety after seeing somewhere that they are fast, reasonably sized (data-wise) and preformatted.
They work just fine and I've set up using NFCTask Launcher for use in my car that will turn off my wireless, turn on bluetooth, set my volume to 14 and start playing my music.
So I am supposed to order those that are NDEF formatted right?
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Uh.... hello!
Yes, buy the NDEF formatted ones.
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Yes, buy the NDEF formatted ones.
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Thanks for the reply
It's going to cost me USD33.95 to order the NFC Hobbyist Starter Kit - (15 Stickers)
NDEF Formatted to ship to Singapore. Expensive to just play with it. =l -reconsiders-
hey I am from Greece. here we don't have nfc tags. except from Xperia tags which only one shop have them. and I don't know if they work for other brands. so where I should look to buy some nfc tags?what type of nfc tags for my a5(2017)? please help.
I was wondering if you can put in NFC into your phone like open it up and install the chip or whatever. Or like be able to plug it on to your phone thru the charger port. I also heard that SD-cards that can connect to wifi can that apply with NFC. if my question is stupid and ignorant feel free to say so. I dont want to impose or be a stupid noob.
Thank you.
I have a Inspire 4g (rooted)
P.s I think this is the wrong thread, I AM SOOOOO SORRY IF IT IS.
I dont usually post stuff.
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I was wondering if you can put in NFC into your phone like open it up and install the chip or whatever. Or like be able to plug it on to your phone thru the charger port. I also heard that SD-cards that can connect to wifi can that apply with NFC. if my question is stupid and ignorant feel free to say so. I dont want to impose or be a stupid noob.
Thank you.
I have a Inspire 4g (rooted)
P.s I think this is the wrong thread, I AM SOOOOO SORRY IF IT IS.
I dont usually post stuff.
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No, you can't. There are some memory cards with integrated NFC, but they're very low storage capacity (1 or 2GB).
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No, you can't. There are some memory cards with integrated NFC, but they're very low storage capacity (1 or 2GB).
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There are also NFC SIM cards... But I don't think they are commercially available. Yet.
IT will be possible..
I think they have magnets abouts the size of a credit card or smaller that will stick to the back of your phone.
I havent had a device with NFC yet, but it may be a must-have for my next device.
you wont be able to install it via the micro usb or via the microchip on the pcb but the memory cards have a look here http://www.moneto.me/faq
I have nfc on my xperia s but no where in the uk has it installed for payments yet..
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I have nfc on my xperia s but no where in the uk has it installed for payments yet..
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I think that UK is going to accelerate the implantation on the occasion of the Olympics.
Surely, a requirement for my next device will be leading NFC.
Hardware issue , i dont think this possible.
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I think they have magnets abouts the size of a credit card or smaller that will stick to the back of your phone.
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Yep, Barclays did that !
http://www.psfk.com/2012/04/barclays-nfc-sticker-turns-your-mobile-phone-into-a-credit-card.html
Just have to wait for other banks to jump in Barclays footsteps
Then, no need for Phone with embedded NFC, or SIM with NFC, ... !
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I have nfc on my xperia s but no where in the uk has it installed for payments yet..
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Starbucks does and so do a number of Mastercard chip and pin machines just there is no payment app available in the uk yet. It was ment to be out for the Olympics but read that it was delayed
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This is a cool feature but as a must-have for a phone? I don't know...
NFC is Near Field Communication right?
Thought it could be used for bluetooth alternative also.
(like phone to phone etc....)
Would love to have, but Desire S doesnt have it.
just wondering, whats the good side of NFC? i only see that as a battery drainer..
Even if you managed to add an NFC radio to your phone, you won't get it to work with google wallet due to the lack of a so called "secure element" which secures the transactions.
http://translate.google.com/transla...overca-presenta-in-italia-la-sua-sim-nfc-347/
They're going to implement that into SIM cards, many (most?) phones have one. Don't know about Google compatibility though, they talk about Mastercard standards.
After reading about NFC sim cards a few months ago I asked T mobile(UK) if they are going to be getting NFC sim cards any time soon, and the guy behind the till looked at me as if I was on crack
IMHO, the best implementation for this on a phone that does not have NFC pre-installed would be from the battery. It requires a hard connection to the circuitry to be powered...the easiest way to do that would be with an nfc-capable battery. The only pitfalls to this would be expensive replacements, slightly decreased battery life and possibly 1-2mm extra thickness to the battery itself. I think a ton of people would gladly take those small caveats to have NFC on a phone that shouldn't.
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IMHO, the best implementation for this on a phone that does not have NFC pre-installed would be from the battery. It requires a hard connection to the circuitry to be powered...the easiest way to do that would be with an nfc-capable battery. The only pitfalls to this would be expensive replacements, slightly decreased battery life and possibly 1-2mm extra thickness to the battery itself. I think a ton of people would gladly take those small caveats to have NFC on a phone that shouldn't.
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tjhe battery shopuld be the problem.. but after looking at this >> http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4576&idPhone2=4695
the question is, why nokia use same battery for a non nfc phone and a nfc phone.. (ps:NFC chip weight is at 3.5 Gram?)
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IMHO, the best implementation for this on a phone that does not have NFC pre-installed would be from the battery. It requires a hard connection to the circuitry to be powered...the easiest way to do that would be with an nfc-capable battery. The only pitfalls to this would be expensive replacements, slightly decreased battery life and possibly 1-2mm extra thickness to the battery itself. I think a ton of people would gladly take those small caveats to have NFC on a phone that shouldn't.
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so i think that the third party companies should work on this for say like extended batteries... and provide a market link or add a market app that would give the nfc chip in the battery to work as an example or a dev do so to make the google wallet to think it is a valid phone with use and nfc chip...
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so i think that the third party companies should work on this for say like extended batteries... and provide a market link or add a market app that would give the nfc chip in the battery to work as an example or a dev do so to make the google wallet to think it is a valid phone with use and nfc chip...
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You can't use Google Wallet with phones that don't have it built in period. There's more than the NFC. There's a chip called a Secure Element that's separate and stores all of the information for cards, etc. The phone either comes with it or it doesn't.
Also for phones with batteries that have an NFC chip in them, that's just an antenna for the chip inside the phone. It does nothing in a non-NFC phone.
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Hey everyone, So I want to get an NFC chip implanted into my hand, don't ask why, ill think of a reason later.
For now I just want somebody more knowledgeable than I to tell me if this tag I am looking at [xM1 [Mifare S50 2x12mm Glass Tag]] Would be compatible with the broadcom NFC chip in my Galaxy S4 I9505?
It says on the page, " 13.56MHz ISO/IEC 14443-A Mifare S50 1K RFID chipset "
I believe there is a rule I cannot post links to pages with products for sale ?
Its from a site called dangerous things, as that's the first I found selling implantable chips..
Share with me your information please And thank you in advance!
And while im at it, Im trying to think of some cool uses for it, Is it possible to write to it something that lets me use it to pay for things ?
I have heard of people that do this..
As far as i know the broadcom nfc chip does not support the mifare protocol. You may be able to write NDEF data to it but i don't think you will be able to use the original mifare protocol.
Also i suggest you look into chips who can run you custom code like javacard
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As far as i know the broadcom nfc chip does not support the mifare protocol. You may be able to write NDEF data to it but i don't think you will be able to use the original mifare protocol.
Also i suggest you look into chips who can run you custom code like javacard
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Hmm, Alright, Thanks for that info!
Cant seem to find any non-Mifare 12x2 glass chips, so looks like ill have to wait :/
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Hmm, Alright, Thanks for that info!
Cant seem to find any non-Mifare 12x2 glass chips, so looks like ill have to wait :/
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We will have an NTAG203 based option coming to Dangerous Things soon... perhaps via a kickstarter. The NTAG203 is a NFC Type 2 compliant tag, meaning it will work with any certified NFC device or mobile phone.
ishmell said:
We will have an NTAG203 based option coming to Dangerous Things soon... perhaps via a kickstarter. The NTAG203 is a NFC Type 2 compliant tag, meaning it will work with any certified NFC device or mobile phone.
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I would be extremely interested in this.
Mifare Classic is a proprietary format, s4 does support mifare ultralight.
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Mach3.2 said:
Mifare Classic is a proprietary format, s4 does support mifare ultralight.
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what about samsung s3?
zuluman said:
what about samsung s3?
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A quick Google search will tell you the results. If the s3 uses a NXP NFC controller, then it can read mifare classic cards, of not it will throw a error.
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Mifare Classic is a proprietary format, s4 does support mifare ultralight.
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sorry duble replly
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A quick Google search will tell you the results. If the s3 uses a NXP NFC controller, then it can read mifare classic cards, of not it will throw a error.
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In other words yes.
Please don't do this. It might seem cool, but there are implications far beyond what you can possibly imagine.
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abuttino said:
Please don't do this. It might seem cool, but there are implications far beyond what you can possibly imagine.
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such as ?
God, all these NFC tags are so small. 150ish bytes? What year are we in... Hell, I read a press release about some company 2k type 4 NFC chips, but every tag I find online is a tiny ntag203... I can't even save my contact info on one of those things.
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God, all these NFC tags are so small. 150ish bytes? What year are we in... Hell, I read a press release about some company 2k type 4 NFC chips, but every tag I find online is a tiny ntag203... I can't even save my contact info on one of those things.
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You can get DESfire EV1 tags on eBay, 8k. But it's slow..
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I've got an implant from dangerousthings. The guy who runs it is very intelligent, very well connected to all the right people, tech, body mod, health, etc.
I've had it in for probably about a month, I got it a day before we started our trip to burning man, and even out there with so little time to heal it was fine.
I love NFC and have been writing all kinds if crazy apps that utilize it, so the tag gets a ton of use. I'm planning on getting an NFC door lock and building and NFC auto start for my car. There are soany awesome things you can do with NFC, and having a secure one on you at all times is pretty awesome.
I also have a magnet in theother hand. h
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Please don't do this. It might seem cool, but there are implications far beyond what you can possibly imagine.
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No seriously, please elaborate.
r2DoesInc said:
I've got an implant from dangerousthings. The guy who runs it is very intelligent, very well connected to all the right people, tech, body mod, health, etc.
I've had it in for probably about a month, I got it a day before we started our trip to burning man, and even out there with so little time to heal it was fine.
I love NFC and have been writing all kinds if crazy apps that utilize it, so the tag gets a ton of use. I'm planning on getting an NFC door lock and building and NFC auto start for my car. There are soany awesome things you can do with NFC, and having a secure one on you at all times is pretty awesome.
I also have a magnet in theother hand. h
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What are some uses you can come up with ?
I can't use the mifare S50 chip they sell Dx
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No seriously, please elaborate.
What are some uses you can come up with ?
I can't use the mifare S50 chip they sell Dx
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Damn. XDA cut a ton of my reply out.
So, first off, ignore the "implications" guy. I cant tell you how many times ive heard its the mark of the beast, or that its a tracking device, or that its a dna harvester, etc etc. Cant beat crazy.
Anyways, I am an app developer, look up my name on the market. I LOVE NFC, most of my newer apps use NFC in some way. I have an app called NFCSecure that locks your device unless you have the nfc tag you setup as a key. thats a pretty big one.
Also tag a hue. turns tags into light switches for hue lights. i can lay in bed, scan my tag and if my light is off, it goes on and vice versa.
My ltest app is nfcvault. uses the tag as an encryption key for passwords, pins, etc.
https://market.android.com/search?q=r2doesinc&c=apps
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Damn. XDA cut a ton of my reply out.
So, first off, ignore the "implications" guy. I cant tell you how many times ive heard its the mark of the beast, or that its a tracking device, or that its a dna harvester, etc etc. Cant beat crazy.
Anyways, I am an app developer, look up my name on the market. I LOVE NFC, most of my newer apps use NFC in some way. I have an app called NFCSecure that locks your device unless you have the nfc tag you setup as a key. thats a pretty big one.
Also tag a hue. turns tags into light switches for hue lights. i can lay in bed, scan my tag and if my light is off, it goes on and vice versa.
My ltest app is nfcvault. uses the tag as an encryption key for passwords, pins, etc.
https://market.android.com/search?q=r2doesinc&c=apps
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haha yeah, I just wanted to hear what they had to say, xD Dont you find the stories funny ?
Oooh nice, Ill have a look see through some of your apps. They look pretty cool!
You should make one that encrypts data like images or videos or documents that requires an NFC tag to decrypt! /wouldBuy 10/10
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haha yeah, I just wanted to hear what they had to say, xD Dont you find the stories funny ?
Oooh nice, Ill have a look see through some of your apps. They look pretty cool!
You should make one that encrypts data like images or videos or documents that requires an NFC tag to decrypt! /wouldBuy 10/10
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just finished my proof of concept app for file encryption via nfc. will be rolling it into nfcvault in time.
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I've got an implant from dangerousthings. The guy who runs it is very intelligent, very well connected to all the right people, tech, body mod, health, etc.
I've had it in for probably about a month, I got it a day before we started our trip to burning man, and even out there with so little time to heal it was fine.
I love NFC and have been writing all kinds if crazy apps that utilize it, so the tag gets a ton of use. I'm planning on getting an NFC door lock and building and NFC auto start for my car. There are soany awesome things you can do with NFC, and having a secure one on you at all times is pretty awesome.
I also have a magnet in theother hand. h
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I hope you never handle my hard drive.
I recently upgraded the battery to a 3800 mah battery. I understand that the battery does not have an imbedded nfc antenna. Will this effect the function of the google wallet app?
Thanks for your help.
Yes I believe so, need NFC to use wallet tap to pay I'm pretty sure.
I think some company does make NFC capable big ol batteries like the one you got tho.
The NFC chip is located within the battery. Without that nfc will not function.
I haven't used Gwallet for a while though so I do not know if anything has changed in regards to how it operates. I know when I used it it NEED NFC to work. Don't know if that changed
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I recently upgraded the battery to a 3800 mah battery. I understand that the battery does not have an imbedded nfc antenna. Will this effect the function of the google wallet app?
Thanks for your help.
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Yes I believe so, need NFC to use wallet tap to pay I'm pretty sure.
I think some company does make NFC capable big ol batteries like the one you got tho.
The NFC chip is located within the battery. Without that nfc will not function.
I haven't used Gwallet for a while though so I do not know if anything has changed in regards to how it operates. I know when I used it it NEED NFC to work. Don't know if that changed
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Google has blocked the galaxy nexus from using wallet. People have been searching for a work around although none have been found yet.
I suspect the only way we may ever regain functionality is through the 3.4 kernel. It's still got a long way to go. The Devs involved in the porting process have hit a hiccup in getting the display working.
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Google has blocked the galaxy nexus from using wallet. People have been searching for a work around although none have been found yet.
I suspect the only way we may ever regain functionality is through the 3.4 kernel. It's still got a long way to go. The Devs involved in the porting process have hit a hiccup in getting the display working.
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I was wondering about this. I'm on a 4.4 Rom, but Wallet still says tap and pay is "not available". So that's a known issue?