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Which is the best ? Stock or customs roms ?

Hey guys,
Ive been using stock and android révolution but i have the feeling that the stock was better, what about you guys ?
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I've got the same feel. Don't no if I right
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Myrkin said:
I've got the same feel. Don't no if I right
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So I'm not alone to think that. So right now Myrkin are you using Android revolution or the stock one ?
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Stock works great, it's fast and responsive, unless you have to have root, I wouldn't bother at the moment.
I used ARHD on my HTC One X because it was better than stock but JB on the Note 2 is super!

welcomehome said:
Stock works great, it's fast and responsive, unless you have to have root, I wouldn't bother at the moment.
I used ARHD on my HTC One X because it was better than stock but JB on the Note 2 is super!
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yup me too. i flash arhd 1.1 on my note 2 and it feels a lil laggy. It even make my 3g connection crawl like a tortoise. I was quite dumbfounded cos i tot it suppose to perform better. But wen i flash it back to stock. it feels so much better n my 3g connection was fast as per normal. so i shall stick to stock while the roms gets improved in due time

Ive been using the Perseus alpha24 kernal for a few days now, smooth fast and noticablely better battery life, havent tried a ROM yet, like you, waiting till they are a bit better.

Yes, I agree.
For now, stock is the best for stability and performance.
It needs time to make custom rom better than stock
imho

Stock forever.

I think its a very subjective topic and its only a matter of time before the mods close this thread (maybe)...
I personally like stock on Note 2. Nothing more needed
Unless it AR HD! Well thats stock too

Jamal Ahmed said:
I think its a very subjective topic and its only a matter of time before the mods close this thread (maybe)...
I personally like stock on Note 2. Nothing more needed
Unless it AR HD! Well thats stock too
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I don't see why they will close this thread I'm just asking for your experiences with custom roms and I'm sharing mine, I'm not wasking what is the best roms amongst all the roms available on the forum but just if at the moment the stock is better than any other custom roms that's all.
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Yeah, I have not used custom roms atm, I just disable what I don't want and that's it. But I wish there was a vanilla Jellybean to try out. Don't need overclocking, but I want undervolted rom to squeeze more juice.

It's nice to know that some of you love the stock experience out of the box. I'm getting my Galaxy Note 2 in November. Obviously many of us like to tinker, so I'm already pleased that the list of custom roms is growing for the Galaxy Note 2.

im flash addict and always was using custom rom but for note 2 stock+root=the best

To me Note 2 needs no rooting and flashing, works great the way it is and I like it that way.
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Are you using a custom rom ?

Hello to all users,
It's been a while since the release of the GN2 and I want to know if you are currently using a custom rom and if it's tje case which one and why this one .
Thx guys =).
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Nope,not yet. I find the stock rom excellent. I just deblaoted it.

I'm on stock and still missing a good reason to root.
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Tried almost all custom rom`s on this thread but in the end the phone performs best on stock firmware imo

Just using omega

just using newest wanamlite rom

Omega and Perseus kernel. Better than stock, undervolted and overclocked. Getting better battery life ans 15.2k on Antutu benchmark
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From my experiences I remember the meaning of the "CUSTOM" rom.
It's MUCH BETTER THAN stock ! Come one dude "Cyanogen", "MIUI" etc.
I felt the difference before and after on many phones.
With N2 everything has changed a bit.
I agree the stock rom are better now than most of custom roms here.
Example: Im using Stock Wanam Deodex Rom (almost out touch rom.) What I did I just maximum deblaoted it.
And this stock rom working MUCH more better and faster and smoother than many custom roms here. Example OMEGA. (No offence ! this is purely my opinion)
Why it happening ?
So many developers love to add 3 years old build prop lines. Too old tweaks also are here. Come one why using stuff from HTC ? WTF was that "Enabled GPU UI rendering"???? JellyB has it from birth that !
And Im fine with that ! But NO DIFFERENCE BRO! not smoother, not faster. Ok maybe benchs is better ? But no it's lower ! Windows animation lags more than on stock rom.
And is nothing to explain about. People will get pissed.(when you tell the truth) If you just got your first android device and you have no experiences (NO CLUE) with that you will say it's faster ! But when you coming from G1 and you got 2-N2. 2-GS3 than you will see the difference between before and after and is nothing to talk about it.
Samsung did sick job with the N2 JB firmware. It's been optimized up to normal and we filling that from ANY corner !
Stop implanting stupid lines like "scrolling catch disabled" if you say yourself that it does not work.
Only best regards

On wanam stock deodexed lj7
Fired From My FireDevice

Using stock ROM! No plans of flashing custom ROM as stock is perfect

on stock...
way too perfect...no need for custom except debloating ofc

Only Android device I've ever owned which I've not rooted, and currently feel no compelling need to do so.
Regards,
Dave
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nm8 said:
Nope,not yet. I find the stock rom excellent. I just deblaoted it.
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What does this mean?

AviatorBobo said:
What does this mean?
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Some of the apps come with the ROM and cannot be removed (Like Flipboard, the various hub apps etc.). If they're not useful to you, it's bloatware. He has removed them by rooting the phone and deleting them.
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Samsung has done a good job on the Note II
Stock Rom is working great,
One only need to root and debloate it
After that you can ' spec' it to ur taste

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Some of the apps come with the ROM and cannot be removed (Like Flipboard, the various hub apps etc.). If they're not useful to you, it's bloatware. He has removed them by rooting the phone and deleting them.
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I see for this i will need titanium backup right? After rooting the phone that is...?

AviatorBobo said:
I see for this i will need titanium backup right? After rooting the phone that is...?
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You can manually delete them, but yeah,it's easier to use titanium backup or something similar so the data gets cleared.
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supramon said:
Hello to all users,
It's been a while since the release of the GN2 and I want to know if you are currently using a custom rom and if it's tje case which one and why this one .
Thx guys =).
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I am using HyperNote 0.3 which offers already a complete debloated ROM. Its very fast and battery efficient. A lot quicker than stock.
Hard to understand how somebody would not root the Note II. For any design changes or debloating you need root....and its so easily done.

avetny said:
From my experiences I remember the meaning of the "CUSTOM" rom.
It's MUCH BETTER THAN stock ! Come one dude "Cyanogen", "MIUI" etc.
I felt the difference before and after on many phones.
With N2 everything has changed a bit.
I agree the stock rom are better now than most of custom roms here.
Example: Im using Stock Wanam Deodex Rom (almost out touch rom.) What I did I just maximum deblaoted it.
And this stock rom working MUCH more better and faster and smoother than many custom roms here. Example OMEGA. (No offence ! this is purely my opinion)
Why it happening ?
So many developers love to add 3 years old build prop lines. Too old tweaks also are here. Come one why using stuff from HTC ? WTF was that "Enabled GPU UI rendering"???? JellyB has it from birth that !
And Im fine with that ! But NO DIFFERENCE BRO! not smoother, not faster. Ok maybe benchs is better ? But no it's lower ! Windows animation lags more than on stock rom.
And is nothing to explain about. People will get pissed.(when you tell the truth) If you just got your first android device and you have no experiences (NO CLUE) with that you will say it's faster ! But when you coming from G1 and you got 2-N2. 2-GS3 than you will see the difference between before and after and is nothing to talk about it.
Samsung did sick job with the N2 JB firmware. It's been optimized up to normal and we filling that from ANY corner !
Stop implanting stupid lines like "scrolling catch disabled" if you say yourself that it does not work.
Only best regards
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That very nicely reason... my question is.. how many Custom ROMS your ever tested? Have you ever tested Android Revolution HD?

jauhari said:
That very nicely reason... my question is.. how many Custom ROMS your ever tested? Have you ever tested Android Revolution HD?
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This guy is good. His rom got the same "smoothest" as Check Rom. (I also liked his stock rom with out any additional tweaks from Aroma installer)
But I don't like first wake up seconds. (I felt stronger deep sleep than on stock, maybe Im crazy. But any way I will try again his new LJ7)
Regards

As of today, what would be the best (in your opinion) daily driver ROM for the GS3?

I just received my S3 a few days ago and have just now been following threads to scope the scene. I am aware that I can create a backup and play around with the ROM's myself, and I will do that actually. Before I do this I would like YOUR opinion on the top ROM and why. What I (personally) look for in a ROM is: stability, good battery time, performance/benchmarks, features, look & feel and more. Thank you very much and have a happy new year!
tldr; What is the best (US) Galaxy S 3 ROM based on stability, battery time, performance, features and look/feel.

That's a tough question as everyone has personal opinions of different Roms and each device will also handle each ROM different in my opinion this will only turn into a this ROM is better than that ROM thread and that is not good
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brorex said:
That's a tough question as everyone has personal opinions of different Roms and each device will also handle each ROM different in my opinion this will only turn into a this ROM is better than that ROM thread and that is not good
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It is not to be a fighting thread, you simply state your opinion and why - that will be the end of it.

roharia said:
I just received my S3 a few days ago and have just now been following threads to scope the scene. I am aware that I can create a backup and play around with the ROM's myself, and I will do that actually. Before I do this I would like YOUR opinion on the top ROM and why. What I (personally) look for in a ROM is: stability, good battery time, performance/benchmarks, features, look & feel and more. Thank you very much and have a happy new year!
tldr; What is the best (US) Galaxy S 3 ROM based on stability, battery time, performance, features and look/feel.
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It depends on what you are looking for from a ROM.
If you want stable stay with stock TW
If you want latest and greatest chose AOSP/AOPK Rom.
Both are now on 4.2 which is much smoother and faster than TW.
No bloatware of course. Better battery life with custom kernels etc...
CM 10.1 is great
Tasks AOPK is better IMHO at the moment. CM is updated nightly which is a plus it minus... Task updates his ROM less frequently but it's a lot more stable at the moment...
Which ever ROM you choose if not stock READ entire OP make sure you follow it to the T and then read all posts as they tell you all about bugs and workarounds
Good luck
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gravedigger76 said:
It depends on what you are looking for from a ROM.
If you want stable stay with stock TW
If you want latest and greatest chose AOSP/AOPK Rom.
Both are now on 4.2 which is much smoother and faster than TW.
No bloatware of course. Better battery life with custom kernels etc...
CM 10.1 is great
Tasks AOPK is better IMHO at the moment. CM is updated nightly which is a plus it minus... Task updates his ROM less frequently but it's a lot more stable at the moment...
Which ever ROM you choose if not stock READ entire OP make sure you follow it to the T and then read all posts as they tell you all about bugs and workarounds
Good luck
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I always follow the instructions to a T, I want the best experience possible out of anything I flash ever. You mentioned better battery life with the Kernels, any experience with ktoonsez's or Task's kernel? Could you give me some estimate figures (example: 5 hours battery on stock, 8 on ktoonsez)

Running Illusion (CM based Rom) with the latest KT747 and no issues here, so I disagree with the guy above. I prefer stock android which is why I like roms like Task's AOKP and CM10.1 the most. It all comes down to preference.

Running Tasks AOKP 4.1.2. With lean kernel. Never crashes never any problems. Most stable custom ROM I've ever used. 4 hours screen on time, best battery I've ever gotten.
Just waiting for some updates on 4.2 then I will upgrade.
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geoldr said:
Running Tasks AOKP 4.1.2. With lean kernel. Never crashes never any problems. Most stable custom ROM I've ever used. 4 hours screen on time, best battery I've ever gotten.
Just waiting for some updates on 4.2 then I will upgrade.
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Where is the thread for the Task roms? Searching for "Task" brings up too much ambiguous crap.

voidstab said:
Where is the thread for the Task roms? Searching for "Task" brings up too much ambiguous crap.
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If you are having issues searching you certainly don't want to use Task's ROM. IMHO....Happy New Year!!!!
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dunlap92 said:
If you are having issues searching you certainly don't want to use Task's ROM. IMHO....Happy New Year!!!!
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Wow should I give you a thanks for that?

voidstab said:
Where is the thread for the Task roms? Searching for "Task" brings up too much ambiguous crap.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684 There's no need to search really. All you would've needed to do it click on the original development forum and my thread is right there.

voidstab said:
Where is the thread for the Task roms? Searching for "Task" brings up too much ambiguous crap.
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Here ya go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684 task has great ROMs
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task650 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684 There's no need to search really. All you would've needed to do it click on the original development forum and my thread is right there.
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Thanks, orig dev I think was the only one I didn't click on.. Time is limited taking care of a 6month old..

This just ends up being a popularity thread.
I'm a huge AOKP/CM10 fan, but right now those ROM's don't have the one thing I need (USB-DAC) so I'm stuck with TouchWiz based ROM's.
I flashed Ultimatum ROM last week and have yet to have a single issue with it.
It's mostly stock with minor tweaks, so it SHOULD be a reliable ROM.
I then flashed a 23toggle mod with blue icons, so I at least have a good looking ROM also.

I find myself always restoring a debloated version of DG's m7 stock based rom with tasks kernel. I use rom toolbox as well to help tweak certain battery consuming apps. I usually lose 3-5% overnight on standby(7 hrs if I'm lucky and my kids let me). I think juice deffender helps me as well. Performance is pretty good but I'm a battery dork. The thread is probably back a couple pages now if you want to look at it. All of these dev's make great roms though. Try them all. Its called flashaholic and i'm a member.

voidstab said:
Wow should I give you a thanks for that?
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Yes you should..
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I'm in love with the Aeonfluxx ROM. I've tried dozens of roms claiming to have great battery life, but none come close to Aeonfluxx.

dunlap92 said:
If you are having issues searching you certainly don't want to use Task's ROM. IMHO....Happy New Year!!!!
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Don't be a douche.

voidstab said:
Wow should I give you a thanks for that?
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I did.

I had the same question, but about the newer 4.2.1 roms. I want to upgrade, but i'm not sure which one will work best for me. Seems like Task and KTz joint is the most popular right now, but CM10 has been my daily. AS far as TW, I keep going back to Bacon Step with KTZ kernal becasue i use bluetooth alot and its my last TW backup. I want 4.2, but i need bluetooth to listen to my podcasts. What 4.2 rom has working bluetooth audio?

[Q] Need a good ROM for my wife

My wife and I both have Galaxy S3's, mine from Verizon (Work) and her's AT&T. I'm running the Jelly 'Beans' ROM with Imoseyons 1.8 Lean Kernel and the phone is great with excellent battery life.
What I need for her phone is a stock-looking ROM on the front end with a fast and stable back end with GREAT battery life. She came from an HTC OneX and her only complaint about the S3 is battery life compared to the HTC. I need something that I can flash and forget, doing constant flashes on her phone isn't feasible. So, what's the best ROM and Kernel combo for her?

For battery life and simplicity Liquid Smooth beta with KTOONZ kernel is what I'd run excellent battery life. Its my back up rom. I've had 4% battery drop in five hours. Very fast and stable no glitches at all.
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myoung84 said:
My wife and I both have Galaxy S3's, mine from Verizon (Work) and her's AT&T. I'm running the Jelly 'Beans' ROM with Imoseyons 1.8 Lean Kernel and the phone is great with excellent battery life.
What I need for her phone is a stock-looking ROM on the front end with a fast and stable back end with GREAT battery life. She came from an HTC OneX and her only complaint about the S3 is battery life compared to the HTC. I need something that I can flash and forget, doing constant flashes on her phone isn't feasible. So, what's the best ROM and Kernel combo for her?
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If you want a ROM where you dont need to flash constant updates - stick to a TW based ROM.
Like CSRom or Dandroid

If i had to recommend a good rom i would say Vanilla Rootbox, it's stable with a good amount of features.

Team Venum Wicked Sensations.
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Another vote for CSROM. Great battery life (especially with Ktoonsez's kernel) and it's TW so she won't have much adjusting to do.

I think I'm going to go with CSROM with Ktoonsez's kernel. Thanks for the replies!

CSROM or i747z are great.
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If you want to keep it simple, try Task650's AOKP 4.2.1 rom. Great battery life, extremely stable, no ridiculous theming, tons of setup options within the rom. Would be perfect for your wife, sir!
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I'm running Task's AOKP on my AT&T S3. It's fast and I get great battery life, up to 2 or 3 days sometimes without heavy use. With average use, you can still easily get through the day.

CyanogenMod is a pretty good and light rom to start with.
but if you dont like constant updates, i'd say just stick with TW rom, the Samsung apps on there are pretty sweet, especially S Memo

Rom (Blackjelly): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883845
and
Kernel (KT747): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
Both combined give me a fantastic battery life along with great performance.
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I don't know if you've made your decision OP, but most of these people recommend TW based roms. I agree with them. AOSP roms are constantly getting updated which is not what you want, so touchwiz based is the way to go. CSRom is an excellent choice and KToon's kernel is superb for battery life in my own experience. Just wanted to let you know that AOSP roms are not really what you should choose if you don't plan on flashing her device a lot.

DarthDerron said:
I don't know if you've made your decision OP, but most of these people recommend TW based roms. I agree with them. AOSP roms are constantly getting updated which is not what you want, so touchwiz based is the way to go. CSRom is an excellent choice and KToon's kernel is superb for battery life in my own experience. Just wanted to let you know that AOSP roms are not really what you should choose if you don't plan on flashing her device a lot.
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Actually, you only have to flash a lot if those updates are important to you. I've been on the same version of tasks 4.1.2 rom for months, no need to update... most of the updates are tiny tweaks and updates, like lockscreen options, and things like that... as long as it's stable and fully functional (which tasks builds are infamous for being) just grab the latest version, flash and forget.
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G-Man. said:
Actually, you only have to flash a lot if those updates are important to you. I've been on the same version of tasks 4.1.2 rom for months, no need to update... most of the updates are tiny tweaks and updates, like lockscreen options, and things like that... as long as it's stable and fully functional (which tasks builds are infamous for being) just grab the latest version, flash and forget.
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At this point 4.2.1 is still in early stages. I would wait a while until most things are fully functional and the only things being worked on are additions and minor minor bugs that don't affect performance to much.

DarthDerron said:
At this point 4.2.1 is still in early stages. I would wait a while until most things are fully functional and the only things being worked on are additions and minor minor bugs that don't affect performance to much.
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I agree, this is why I just moved to tasks 4.2 aokp last night. It's flawless. Everything works fine so long as you follow his directions in the op.
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Completely stock vs custom rom

Hey I'm just wondering I know it's kind of hard to measure without getting into benchmarks score before and after, but have you guys notice a big difference in speed when you guys were stock then going to a custom rom? Just would like to know if there's any incremental speed bump. Just want to know if I should bother rooting and all that stuff because this phone is fast already stock. I'm fully aware of all the cool things rooting does so it's not a question of whether I should root or not but I'm more interested if the phone feels a lot snappier, thank you.
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Well that all depends on the rom or kernel itself. There isn't really one custom rom. Lots of different options mate.
Rooting isn't hard. I'd recommend it. I was on stock since August till last month when I got bored and decided to root.
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Hey I'm just wondering I know it's kind of hard to measure without getting into benchmarks score before and after, but have you guys notice a big difference in speed when you guys were stock then going to a custom rom? Just would like to know if there's any incremental speed bump. Just want to know if I should bother rooting and all that stuff because this phone is fast already stock. I'm fully aware of all the cool things rooting does so it's not a question of whether I should root or not but I'm more interested if the phone feels a lot snappier, thank you.
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First of all as far as rooting goes there is a big difference between rooted and un-rooted phones.
There are so many excellent apps which require the phone to be rooted or they simply won't work.
Also if you plan to use custom roms your phone must be rooted, all custom roms are pre-rooted.
The custom roms are generally faster than stock roms although to be honest it's not something which
you would really notice when using most applications or games which you may have installed.
The main advantage the custom roms have over stock is that they have a lot more features, settings,
options, themes and they are fine tuned to use less battery power than stock roms.
I would suggest to only flash and use stock based custom roms. (Samsung Galaxy S3 Jellybean v4.1.1 custom roms)
Using other roms like the ported roms or CM/AOKP/AOSP Android roms generally cause more problems
than they are worth, not to mention the fact that none of them have the Wifi calling feature which is only
found in stock based Samsung Galaxy S3 Jellybean v4.1.1 custom roms.
The AOKP/AOSP/CM and ported roms are excellent for those people who like to experiment with their phones.
Good Luck!

Yeah lately getting bored of stock, itching to hack away. All my previous phones needed rooting to actually function right like the g2x. this one has been the first one to worked great stock. Thanks for the info
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Question is voodoo supported for this phone? If not other audio enhancements?
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re: audio enhancements
daxecutioner24 said:
Question is voodoo supported for this phone? If not other audio enhancements?
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Voodoo sound is obsolete but there are many other audio hacks which work even better
like DSP Audio, Awesome Beats, Volume+ and others which all work with our phones.
None of them come with the stock firmware.
Most all of the Samsung Galaxy S3 T999 custom roms will have an option for one of
the above audio enhancements.

Thanks junky
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I have to say that CM / AOSP 4.2.2 ROMs are light years smoother than stock touchwiz, but touchwiz scores higher in quadrant because there is proprietary code that Qualcomm gives to OEMs for optimization. AOSP ROMs are open source and thus that secret sauce is not included.
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klin1344 said:
I have to say that CM / AOSP 4.2.2 ROMs are light years smoother than stock touchwiz, but touchwiz scores higher in quadrant because there is proprietary code that Qualcomm gives to OEMs for optimization. AOSP ROMs are open source and thus that secret sauce is not included.
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Yeah, that explains the sometimes 1000 pt. difference in the CPU category in quadrant tests (between TW and AOSP). Do you think that "secret sauce" offers any real world advantage? I mean, what does that optimization that Qualcomm is providing to Sammy really do? I also find AOSP 4.2 to be smoother somehow... but the 1000 lower score concerns me.
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