Hey Guys,
I know that most of the questions I read were about the S Pen being too sensitive. But in my case, I feel the S Pen is not as sensitive as it should be!
When I put the pen in the slightest contact with the screen and try to scribble, nothing comes up. I feel I have to push the pen a bit more strongly to get some writing on the screen - and that takes away from the sensitivity of the S pen which Samsung brags about.
Is anybody else facing this problem, where you feel the S pen has to be pushed too hard for it to start writing on the screen? In my opinion, as soon as the pen comes in contact with the screen (even the slightest contact), it should start writing.
Thanks guys.
bambar said:
Hey Guys,
I know that most of the questions I read were about the S Pen being too sensitive. But in my case, I feel the S Pen is not as sensitive as it should be!
When I put the pen in the slightest contact with the screen and try to scribble, nothing comes up. I feel I have to push the pen a bit more strongly to get some writing on the screen - and that takes away from the sensitivity of the S pen which Samsung brags about.
Is anybody else facing this problem, where you feel the S pen has to be pushed too hard for it to start writing on the screen? In my opinion, as soon as the pen comes in contact with the screen (even the slightest contact), it should start writing.
Thanks guys.
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I am having this issue a little now. At first the s-pen was fine and performed as expected but now it seems like it needs more pressure to register scren taps etc although the pointer shows as normal whent he pen is close to the screen
This is normal in S note and some other apps where pressure sensitivity is needed. Samsung has designed it in that way.
Same here, first day the pressure needed was very low, now I need a lot of more and the traces of the pen have like 2 options, little press (more than before) and a lot of pressure for thick lines, nothing in the middle.
And I can corroborate this because with my other wacom pens of tablet pcs doesn't have the problem of the samsung now.
kersh said:
Same here, first day the pressure needed was very low, now I need a lot of more and the traces of the pen have like 2 options, little press (more than before) and a lot of pressure for thick lines, nothing in the middle.
And I can corroborate this because with my other wacom pens of tablet pcs doesn't have the problem of the samsung now.
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read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925212 Apparently there are two adjustable potentiometers beneath the S pen switch which can be adjusted for increasing or decreasing sensitivity of the pen . most people including me are suffering from greater sensitivity . I adjusted the potentiometer to get rid of this problem.
ask77 said:
read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925212 Apparently there are two adjustable potentiometers beneath the S pen switch which can be adjusted for increasing or decreasing sensitivity of the pen . most people including me are suffering from greater sensitivity . I adjusted the potentiometer to get rid of this problem.
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The thing is that my pen can write with slight pressure but a little more than before, but the real problem seems that the middle one levels are lost and were working the first day.
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every review i've read online before i bought the unit was boasting about how "finger-friendly" the TP2 was, and that you could lightly swipe your finger across it to navigate the menu and that the touchscreen was very sensitive and whatnot
however after 2 weeks of use i find that to be relatively untrue. i've got to apply a fair amount of pressure on the screen to get it to register my input. of course, i'm posting this because i'm afraid that i might be damaging the screen in the process
i have no basis for comparison actually, my only 2 other touchscreen devices at home are an iphone and a cowon s9, both use capacitive screens. i always knew there was a big difference between capacitive screens and resistive screens, i just didn't know it was THIS huge. i can actually slide my finger lightly over the iphone's surface and its registered properly. the sliding probably feels smoother as its glass, but i can live with the TP2's plastic. what do you guys think ? should i get it checked out at the HTC store ?? its on the other side of town, don't wanna waste a trip as if its not a problem
oh yeah and just to get this out of the way, the screen is a membrane and not a hard surface right ?? everytime i press on the screen using my finger or the stylus, i can feel the screen slightly moving down, can also see the surface getting slightly dented at the point my finger pushes it if looking at it from a certain angle.
ps before somebody asks: i only got to test the keyboard at the telco store, some punk had cracked the screen of the display set, so i didn't know about this screen issue until i actually purchased the set
sorry for the long post, but i'd really appreciate any comments
TIA
Well, I don't have an Iphone so i can't tell you about how it compares with the TP2, however, i found the display to be much better than the one on my old XDA. It will probably never as good as a capacitive device like the touchpad on my laptop, but I found it to work very well. You have to apply a certain amount of pressue to the display, because it reacts on pressure, so I guess there is nothing wrong with that. I also see a small dent when I use the stylus and press the display. I cannot confirm the screen slightly going down when pressing it.
To summarize it, i use the Stylus 90% of the time. It glides much better on the display than my finger does so the overall experience is slightly better when using a stylus. Plus i don't get any greasy fingerprints on my display.
However the 10% I use my fingers to work on it (and 25% of that 10% is spent on polishing I found it to work pretty well, so in general I don't think that the reviews were off when it comes to finger usability.
What you are describing is probably normal. Resistive screens do require pressure. The TP2 tends to require less pressure than others, but nonetheless it does require it. There's no comparison if you compare it to a capacitive screen device because those don't require pressure at all.
The flexing of the screen that you described is something all resistive screens have. Again, if you compare the screen flex of the TP2 to earlier HTC devices, it's greatly improved.
To be on the safe side, go to a store and try out other resistive screen devices and see if you experience the same thing as your own. Then you'll know what is considered "normal".
thanks for the replies, i'll probably head down to my telco's store and see if they've replaced the display set then.
any other comments ??
You know I thought the same, waiting for a cab to increase the sensitivity because at the moment its quite annoying pressing buttons more than once...
From a few years to nowadays i´ve always used QTEK/HTC devices, my latest one is, ofcourse, HTC RHODIUM, the rom it has installed is RUU_Rhodium_HTC_PTG_1.19.410.0_Radio_Rhodium_3.44.25.27_Signed_Ship, and the screen is very sensitive and responsive, i´m just very pleased with it overall, it´s the best.
Cheers.
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You know I thought the same, waiting for a cab to increase the sensitivity because at the moment its quite annoying pressing buttons more than once...
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you don't need .cab
just change in registry...
HKLM/drivers/Touch Driver/pressurethreshold, (default=10000)
(I might not remember perfectly, but it's something like that)
try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469865
this might help just re align your screen again using little pressure then your screen will not need some much pressure to work.
I have found the this not only aligns the screen but the pressure as well.
mine I just have to lightly touch it and dont have to press very much at all.
Cheers
Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
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Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
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I have a similar issue where i seem to have to press hard to get a reaction, especially the app drawer icon.
I notice you have to hit dead on which makes sense. This isn't a pencil or pen where you can write slanted and the ink still touch the paper or what not. But rather the "ball" of the s pen is where your main contact should be. Takes getting used to but what doesn't? Pen works great once you learn how it works
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I had to exchange my S-pen 3 times due to sensitivity issue! One of them was way too sensitivity, I wasn't even touching the screen and I could write on S-note... Store manager thought that was part of the Note 2's new feature... lol
Even after the exchange of S-pen I was still having little issues with it, and I ran across a thread about slamming the S-pen on the ground. I know it sounds bizarre but it actually worked! I didn't believe it at first but now my s-pen works flawless... so weird. :silly:
zen0s said:
I had to exchange my S-pen 3 times due to sensitivity issue! One of them was way too sensitivity, I wasn't even touching the screen and I could write on S-note... Store manager thought that was part of the Note 2's new feature... lol
Even after the exchange of S-pen I was still having little issues with it, and I ran across a thread about slamming the S-pen on the ground. I know it sounds bizarre but it actually worked! I didn't believe it at first but now my s-pen works flawless... so weird. :silly:
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lol like throwing it or just slamming it? and yeah i figured it would just take getting used to I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just my pen. So is there really no settings to change for it though??
Also funny question... does it matter which way it is held? Like when I was first holding it you would press the button with your thumb however you could also hold it so you would press it with your index finger. Does it matter? Is it made to work better one way?
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I notice you have to hit dead on which makes sense. This isn't a pencil or pen where you can write slanted and the ink still touch the paper or what not. But rather the "ball" of the s pen is where your main contact should be. Takes getting used to but what doesn't? Pen works great once you learn how it works
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Take a closer look at the tip of the S-pen. It's actually slightly spring loaded! I discovered this from an early review video I watched before I purchased mine. I believe that the tip has to be pressed hard enough to slightly retract in order to produce a mark. Writing with the pen at an angle may not be doing that.
Doug
Mom said don't smack
But I just tried it and the pen is working 95% better. I don't know if it will stay this way but it's working pretty well (for now at least).
stupid but it works for me.
jakebake said:
Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
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Hey I have the same problem with you but I have solved it in a stupid but effective way. I open the back case and press it, that's it the pen sensitivity back to normal.... lol try it easy and effective....
The S pen can be too sensitive, so you have to adjust its potentiometer. Yes, you heard that right.Just pop the button cover off by simply using a razor blade or something really thin, the cover should pop immediately. Then, you have to use a small flat head screwdriver and turn the screw clockwise. This will adjust the S Pen sensitivity. If you want to make it more sensible, then you have to screw counterclockwise. You should adjust it until it no longer has a problem. This fix has worked for a lot of people, so it should work as a general fix. If you still have problems with the S pen, then you should get in touch with the dealer that gave the phone to you and get the S pen switched because it is faulty.
Vaderg82 said:
The S pen can be too sensitive, so you have to adjust its potentiometer. Yes, you heard that right.Just pop the button cover off by simply using a razor blade or something really thin, the cover should pop immediately. Then, you have to use a small flat head screwdriver and turn the screw clockwise. This will adjust the S Pen sensitivity. If you want to make it more sensible, then you have to screw counterclockwise. You should adjust it until it no longer has a problem. This fix has worked for a lot of people, so it should work as a general fix. If you still have problems with the S pen, then you should get in touch with the dealer that gave the phone to you and get the S pen switched because it is faulty.
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Wish I had known this a last week before I broke my last S Pen. lol Worked great and I even adjusted my full size S Pen as well! Kudos!
For me it depends on how i insert the pen back into the silo.
Button facing down = no problem
Button facing up = S-pen is looser, and lightly tapping the exposed part of the pen when inserted causes detachment recognition.
the tablet shows the "S-pen detached" even with the slightest outward movement of the S-pen,
which is only a problem when i insert the pen with the button facing down
Anyone one else having the same issue? (Should i exchange mines...?)
Is the S-pen suppose to inserted in a certain orientation only?
I dont have any of that problems
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I have this problem. Very annoying. It shouldn't be loose
BooBoo_el_Locco said:
I dont have any of that problems
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ahhh, guess i'll go exchange mine then, thanks for posting and letting me know !
I have the same problem and for me it's no difference if the butten is facing up or down :/
Every time I press or hold the tablet next to the camera the pen is not recognized anymore. Very annoying if using it horizontally or just carrying it
SAME ISSUE HERE, but i have a solution !
It is the problem with to short pencil drawpoint, if i remove it and place it without fully pressing/locking inside the pen, the pen dedection will no fail !!!, i dont know yet how to extend it ??? (i'm sure a 0,5 mm or even 0,01 mm - will do)
if anyone have any idea please help ? can i place a bit of paper inside pen or it will **** the whole thing up ?
@Asmodat
that doesn't help for me. as soon as i bend the note a tiny little bit i get the s pen removed message. even if the lead is very loose
x3202 said:
@Asmodat
that doesn't help for me. as soon as i bend the note a tiny little bit i get the s pen removed message. even if the lead is very loose
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I know why it is not working for you (I forgotten to repost): That's because in my case extending the pen also stabilised it - thow it stopped going crazy.
Then i also noticed, that bending ... rather pressing the tablet in specific places fired the detatched message.
ANY WAY FOLLOWING SOLUTION IS 100% WORKING:
- The issue is to much loose in pen holder, so if the pen is not stabilized, even slightly move of pen or bend of tablet can detatch or reattach it.
TO FIX IT: Take the 2cm / 1inch piece of narrow transparent tape, then stick it below the silver head of pen.
I has to help, however it must be peace of tape of certain length not to long (you will not fit the pen in the holder), not to short.(it will not stabilise it).
Now I can do whatever I wont wyth my tablet, bent, press, etc - for me problem is solved, although i beleave some software code could easly fix it too, or disable the stupid feature.
Same problem.. The solution for me was to go to the service centre to get a new pen.
I'm having the same problem here. For me, it seems like this problem happened over time. I had this device for a month, and it's only the past week that I've had this problem. The slot for the pen seems to have loosened, and the pen slides out ever so slightly (still secure), but enough to be detected. It's very annoying, as I have a case with the sleep cover function, and the "pen detached" notification turns the screen on regardless of it being turned off from the cover. Battery drain while in bag FTL.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable the feature altogether. I'm rooted, so I don't mind a rooted solution. I'd rather this than having to carry the pen separately, as the hole in the tablet will still be useful this way.
Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Even those expensive iPad styli aren't even close to the s pen experience.
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Even those expensive iPad styli aren't even close to the s pen experience.
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I agree, and I probably will not end up getting an iPad. I'm just kind of angry at Samsung at the moment and just saying things that'll make me feel better. Meanwhile, let's see how many returns it takes for me to get a tablet with no big problems. :silly:
I had the same issue. So I went to service station. they proposed to change s pen and the whole s pen dock which is attached to the screen Pannel. Now will be getting the replacements in 3 days. screen Pannel. According to them the s pen dock is attached to the screen Pannel. Now will be getting the replacements in 3 days. Hoping for the best. my S pen is very loose. It wasant so it was just loose on one side but after they opened my Note it became too loose. So its better to get a replacement.
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Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Exactly the same thing with my P605. Went to Samsung service on Friday, January 10, and in less than one hour the problem was fixed, the s-pen's detection distance becoming ~2 mm. The s-pen position in silo doesn't matter (if it is introduced with the button toward the screen or to the back camera). I've tested also the s-pen with the sensitive tip removed, it keeps the same distance of 2 mm with or without tip. I've asked the lady from the desk for the technician that fixed my tablet to talk with him just 1 min to ask him what he did, she said that is forbidden. Than I asked her to tell me how the tablet was fixed, she said that it was opened and the sensor was repositioned in the right place. I looked carefully with a magnifier if there are traces on the case, it looks like the case wasn't touched. By the way, they didn't specify anything on my guarantee certificate, and they didn't release to me any written paper concerning this problem and how they fixed it. My feeling is that the s-pen sensor's position was recalibrated digitally, using a hidden menu. Testing my s-pen in the demo P605 tablet from the showroom (inside the same Samsung service building), the tolerance was ~1.5 mm. Hopefully this information will be useful to anybody experiencing this annoying thing.
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I'm having the same problem here. For me, it seems like this problem happened over time. I had this device for a month, and it's only the past week that I've had this problem. The slot for the pen seems to have loosened, and the pen slides out ever so slightly (still secure), but enough to be detected. It's very annoying, as I have a case with the sleep cover function, and the "pen detached" notification turns the screen on regardless of it being turned off from the cover. Battery drain while in bag FTL.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable the feature altogether. I'm rooted, so I don't mind a rooted solution. I'd rather this than having to carry the pen separately, as the hole in the tablet will still be useful this way.
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I would love to see this as well. Maybe there's something like turning off home button wake in /system/usr/keylayout/gpio-keys.kl ? Like OP, the issue is improved greatly when the S-Pen button is facing toward the back of the device.
BTW, where the hell is the ROM development on this device. I haven't seen a ghost town like this on a Samsung device since the Behold II.
warrantary worked
now i had to sent my device to the support for some reasons as well and they managed to fix the problem. they didn't replace the s pen and it still feels quite loose in the silo but there are no detached messages anymore!
they had to open the back because they changed the battery, so i can't say if they fixed the sensor or if it was a software fix
I have fixed it by myself (just because I had no warranty for some reasons)
It is hardware problem and can not be fixed by firmware, so, if you want, go to service.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2619474
I have a rooted 2013 N7 running 5.0.2 that I recently installed in the dash of my car. During normal (handheld) use my touch screen works OK though it does have some periodic difficulties as seems to be common with this unit. However, when I mount the tablet in my dash, the touch screen is almost completely unresponsive. The tablet is mounted behind my stereo trim bezel so that there is plastic trim piece in contact with the full perimeter of the front glass. I believe the trim piece does not overlap with the LCD screen. Even so, I am assuming this is screwing with the touch responsiveness. When there is a little pressure on the edges of the screen - most of touch is unresponsive. Has anyone run into this problem? Ideas, insight, links to other threads are very appreciated. Thank you.
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I have a rooted 2013 N7 running 5.0.2 that I recently installed in the dash of my car. During normal (handheld) use my touch screen works OK though it does have some periodic difficulties as seems to be common with this unit. However, when I mount the tablet in my dash, the touch screen is almost completely unresponsive. The tablet is mounted behind my stereo trim bezel so that there is plastic trim piece in contact with the full perimeter of the front glass. I believe the trim piece does not overlap with the LCD screen. Even so, I am assuming this is screwing with the touch responsiveness. When there is a little pressure on the edges of the screen - most of touch is unresponsive. Has anyone run into this problem? Ideas, insight, links to other threads are very appreciated. Thank you.
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In your case, there are 2 reasons I know of that interfere with the touch operation: (1) the grounding issue where without holding the tab in your hand would cause unresponsiveness. Easy to test: if you leave the tab on a flat surface without touching it, and it doesn't respond well to touches, you can try multi-fix hacks. It helped in my experience. The battery percentage also affects - the lower it goes, the less responsive it becomes.
If it does respond then (2) the problem is what you've already identified. Any pressure, however slight, on the tab or glass would distort responsiveness on some units. In my experience, something as innocuous as adjusting the angle at which the tab stands on a case makes a difference. Here, I've found no cures but to maintain it at an optimizing angle.
Thank you for the reply. I am not having the grounding issue so it must be pressure on the edges of the screen. I'm still searching for a fix to this without having to redesign my entire mount.
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In your case, there are 2 reasons I know of that interfere with the touch operation: (1) the grounding issue where without holding the tab in your hand would cause unresponsiveness. Easy to test: if you leave the tab on a flat surface without touching it, and it doesn't respond well to touches, you can try multi-fix hacks. It helped in my experience. The battery percentage also affects - the lower it goes, the less responsive it becomes.
If it does respond then (2) the problem is what you've already identified. Any pressure, however slight, on the tab or glass would distort responsiveness on some units. In my experience, something as innocuous as adjusting the angle at which the tab stands on a case makes a difference. Here, I've found no cures but to maintain it at an optimizing angle.
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So i bought the a50 cause i wanted a bigger phone like the note at a cheap price. Loving the phone, so i decided to spring for an active stylus, the stylus actually works very well on my g6 and dell touchscreen but for some reason the upper half of my a50 isnt very responsive, and where it does respond is only on the edges. If i start a stroke from the bottom of the scren it will follow through to the top, most of the time. But if i start at the top and move down, it only appear towards the bottom off the screen. Tapping is even worse, almost no response on upper half.
I have no magnetic cases, ive tried two a50s, with and without screen protectors. Always the same result. Heres some pictures to help visualize, does anyone have a fix for this?
Scribles represent dragging, dots represent taps.
You could try increasing the touch sensitivity.
Sukhi said:
You could try increasing the touch sensitivity.
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Thank you for your response. I should have mentioned, the problem is identicle, with or without touch sensitivity increased. The stylus work on a note 9 perfect as well. Starting to suspect its a software problem with the a50.