I normally just install all my apps to the Internal SD and never worry about it, is this slowing my phone down? Does the phone read and write slower this way. than if I were to buy a class 10 SD card and do APPS2SD?
I'm upgrading to a 32GB gs3 from the standard 16, and I wanna make sure I'm doing the apps right this time. Thank you for any advice.
Isn't the SGS3 a DataMedia device? If so, installing to the internal SD has two caveats:
a: It should be no slower than /data, except for the overhead of encryption/decryption.
b: It saves absolutely no space any where. The internal SD card is /data/media.
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This is my first Android Phone without an SD card slot (Had Samsung Galaxy, Thunderbolt and Bionic before). Trying to understand. Is the Internal Storage a physical storage medium like you find in the iPhone or is it an internal SD card? Some people talk about virtual SD drive and partitioning. Am I able to partition the internal storage so that part of it will work like an external SD card and does not get erased with ROM upgrades? Thanks
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This is my first Android Phone without an SD card slot (Had Samsung Galaxy, Thunderbolt and Bionic before). Trying to understand. Is the Internal Storage a physical storage medium like you find in the iPhone or is it an internal SD card? Some people talk about virtual SD drive and partitioning. Am I able to partition the internal storage so that part of it will work like an external SD card and does not get erased with ROM upgrades? Thanks
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the internal memory is a nand chip, it's much better than having a microsd card like the HD7 and mozart, as it runs much faster, and less error.
but not too sure about partitioning it, as you only get about just over 13GB users memory.
Hello everyone, you see I bought an SD 32GB
I want to know if there is a way to use as a primary this card and not the internal memory of the phone, not only want to save the photos, videos, music and that's in the options it brings to change the storage location, what I want is practically unusable leave 5 or 6GB approximate giving the 8GB internal that has to be used, perhaps unusable is not the right word because it sounds like that is damaged or something, but it is not the case
Practically what I want is that everything, absolutely all the information found in the internal memory, change to SD and automatically this as the main stay, to save all kinds of things
I want to split if the SD memory is possible 15/15 or 20/10 GB, for use as internal memory and SD card, so that when you look in the phone information displayed instead of 6GB, this amount as internal memory
Having explained this I think should understand why use the word "useless" because practically 6GB memory brings the phone would no longer be used, everything would be stored in memory SD
I have a Redmi 1S
I'm using the latest Rom V7 China
I think you get to read something like this was possible in Redmi 1, but if I remember one of the cons of doing so was that he should spend a minute after ignition to take effect, which means that if for any reason you should save or something came in that moment the phone memory usage would be 6GB, and not the SD, which I want to avoid at all times if possible in the Redmi 1S
If anyone can help me, I appreciate it!
Please accept my apology for any grammatical errors in advance since English is not my first language
cm 13 has the option to make external sd to be used as internal sd and the rom will format your external sd so make backup if need to, and 2 partition is possible android mm will automatically mount your second partition as removable storage aka external storage. you may need a very fast sdcard. dont blame me if it not work for you since i dont try it myself
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cm 13 has the option to make external sd to be used as internal sd and the rom will format your external sd so make backup if need to, and 2 partition is possible android mm will automatically mount your second partition as removable storage aka external storage. you may need a very fast sdcard. dont blame me if it not work for you since i dont try it myself
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I have a "Samsung 32GB EVO Class 10 Micro SDHC up to 48MB/s " SD Card you think that this is good memory?
automatically cm13 make all this for me? I don't have to do nothing? Only selecting the option to use the sd card memory as internal storage and the true internal storage not be available?
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I have a "Samsung 32GB EVO Class 10 Micro SDHC up to 48MB/s " SD Card you think that this is good memory?
automatically cm13 make all this for me? I don't have to do nothing? Only selecting the option to use the sd card memory as internal storage and the true internal storage not be available?
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if you want 2 partitions you better partition the sdcard 1st on your pc, its up to you which size. the rom will ask what you want u want to do with the sdcard (it will mount 2 partition if u have 2 partitions). since i dont try it myself you better heading to cm13 thread
Anyone using this? If so, any drawbacks? I hate having to split internal memory with SD space, it would just be easier if there was one space for all my data. Wondering why anyone wouldn't do this. Also, is there a specific SD card recommended? Appreciate all the feedback, thanks guys!
The speed of launching/updating apps for example can be a drawback if you're using a slow SD card.
As for what SD card you should use, something that has as high 4KB random read and write speeds as possible.
Manufacturer's don't advertise these numbers so you need to find the information yourself. That's basically hoping that some kind soul has benchmarked the SD card you're looking at.
For reference the internal storage is capable of around 10MB/s in both read and write in 4KB random.
The best microSD cards I've seen have about 10MB/s read and 5MB/s write. That would be the 64GB Samsung Pro Plus.
Not the best but really good ones have anywhere between 8-10MB/s and 3-4MB/s write. That would include for example the regular 64GB Pro from Samsung, Sandisk's Extreme Plus U1/U3 64GB and the Extreme Pro.
If the SD card has under 2MB/s 4KB random write speeds I wouldn't personally even bother.
Also another thing worth pointing out that 4KB random write speed with SD cards is always slower than the read speed is.
I was tempted to use this but the drawbacks have me keeping it as external, which some applications require:
TWRP backups
Titanium Backup backups
Flashing RUU, update zips
Ability to plug into a PC directly
My other concern is that if it were to glitch, the problems that would cause could ruin a weekend.
I figured I'll leave it external unless I have a compelling reason to adopt it.
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I was tempted to use this but the drawbacks have me keeping it as external, which some applications require:
TWRP backups
Titanium Backup backups
Flashing RUU, update zips
Ability to plug into a PC directly
My other concern is that if it were to glitch, the problems that would cause could ruin a weekend.
I figured I'll leave it external unless I have a compelling reason to adopt it.
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Why do you need your sd-card as external with TWRP and Titanium Backup?
In TWRP you can choose between internal storage and sd-card, even it's formatted as internal storage and in Titanium Backup you can choose your destination folder.
I'm using my sd-card as internal storage and I can't feel much difference in speed (you have to use a fast sd-card).
For flashing RUUs and zips... Yes, this is not possible (you have to format your sd-card to ext3 in TWRP for it to work), but I'm using custom ROMs, so it's not important for me.
Well, Ability to plug into a PC directly... If you need it you should use your sd-card as external storage.
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Why do you need your sd-card as external with TWRP and Titanium Backup?
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Because a backup is no good if it gets wiped or corrupted along with the rest of internal storage or if the only OS/configuration that can read it becomes unavailable/unusable.
A backup device has to be separate from the thing its backing up, not integral to it.
That's what OTG and thumb drives are good for. I've never backed up to internal or SD card for that matter.
Backup to thumb drive with md5 and plug it in to your computer which most of the time has exponentially more storage available and check the md5 after it's transferred to the computer. Then I'll throw a copy of that backup to cloud storage after encrypting it just for good measure.
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That's what OTG and thumb drives are good for. I've never backed up to internal or SD card for that matter.
Backup to thumb drive with md5 and plug it in to your computer which most of the time has exponentially more storage available and check the md5 after it's transferred to the computer. Then I'll throw a copy of that backup to cloud storage after encrypting it just for good measure.
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I thought of that but that's a lot more work for no gain and it won't work in the field, away from the desktop.
A 128GB SD card lets me do everything on the phone without worrying about space.
TWRP and TiBkp have an option to encrypt backups, which I use since I don't use encryption on the external SD card itself.
64Gb SanDisk Ultra convert to adoptable storage runs really bad. facebook lags, crashes, freezes.
UFS card should be out for adoptable storage.
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64Gb SanDisk Ultra convert to adoptable storage runs really bad. facebook lags, crashes, freezes.
UFS card should be out for adoptable storage.
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I'm using the same sd card as adopted storage without any problems.
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I'm using the same sd card as adopted storage without any problems.
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have you tried facebook app or any heavy app on adoptable storage ?
the app is install on internal storage and data is install on SD card... do i have to change permission for the app. like for example storage location ?
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have you tried facebook app or any heavy app on adoptable storage ?
the app is install on internal storage and data is install on SD card... do i have to change permission for the app. like for example storage location ?
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I'm using facebook and some other heavy apps (for example games) every day and I have no lags (except sometimes if it loads new content from the internet, but this has nothing to do with the sd card).
But not a single crash!
There are no permissions you have to change. Maybe try to backup all your data on your sd card and format it again as adopted storage.
Hi all,
i've put an new SD card in my HTC 10. It was said that it would be encrypted, so i thought great, and also that it would behave as an extension of the internal storage, therefore many apps could be installed.
On the contrary, if it is formatted as an external storage, then not all apps accept to be moved onto it, so that even with a huge SD card, i may face a space problem on the internal storage at some point, if i install too many apps there.
Question 1 though: are the photos/videos/screenshots/music etc really stored on the SD ? Or onle once the internal storage is full ?
For example, one of my videos is on /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/100MEDIA/MYVIDEO123.mp4
Is that the SD? or the internal? or is there no possibility to know just from the path?
Question 2: is it true that if i factory reset the phone, the SD card will also loose all its data, photos, videos etc ?
If that is the case, is there any real davantage of using an SD as internal storage ?
A positive scenario i would see is to use it indeed as an internal storage and do online backups of my photos/videos etc.
For the moment i was quite happy with my previous phones to use the SD as external storage and the data there being unaffected by whatever system changes on the phone. A bit like two partitions of a PC. One for the OS and one for the data.
While if i merge the two, even if i can see the advantage of doing that, it's again the old-time merging system and data.
How do you guys deal with that ?
Thanks a lot,
Adrien
About Question 1, you can format it as internal, put that video and simply unmount or eject card. You will see what happen. You can always format that card as portable so you don't lose.
About Q2: From what i know, yes. It's true, because your card is treated as internal storage, so it will be wiped and after that your phone will "say" that your sd card is corrupted. You will need to reformat SD card.
IMO Adopting SD Card as internal memory is a bad idea, at least for me. OK, you will have encrypted data and unusable in another phone, but SD cards aren't "speed demons", and for me SD cards are intended as portable data storage, not as internal memory.
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About Question 1, you can format it as internal, put that video and simply unmount or eject card. You will see what happen. You can always format that card as portable so you don't lose.
About Q2: From what i know, yes. It's true, because your card is treated as internal storage, so it will be wiped and after that your phone will "say" that your sd card is corrupted. You will need to reformat SD card.
IMO Adopting SD Card as internal memory is a bad idea, at least for me. OK, you will have encrypted data and unusable in another phone, but SD cards aren't "speed demons", and for me SD cards are intended as portable data storage, not as internal memory.
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Thank you ShadoV90. That makes things clearer for me.
Hi.
My wife has already in use the Nokia 5.1 for a while. At that time we have also used a 64GB SD card and formatted it as internal memory. Thus, just under 80GB should be available as one drive.
However, the additional memory of the SD card is obviously not used, because although almost 60 GB continue to be free, the mobile phone complains about missing memory if you want to make photos or install apps.
The attempt to format the SD card as external memory brought no improvement, especially as apps like the camera can not access it then.
What do you have to do so that the storage space of the SD card is attached to the internal memory and is used by the mobile phone?
Thanks in advance.