Hey guys. I'm considering to root my international One X but I have a few questions about the consequences after rooting. I'd really appreciate it if someone could answer my questions.
1. Will I be able to unroot my phone without leaving any traces of root that might void my warranty?
2. Will I be able to receive OTA updates on stock rom? If so, will I still have root after I install the update? (let's say the upcoming JB update)
Maxster93 said:
Hey guys. I'm considering to root my international One X but I have a few questions about the consequences after rooting. I'd really appreciate it if someone could answer my questions.
1. Will I be able to unroot my phone without leaving any traces of root that might void my warranty?
2. Will I be able to receive OTA updates on stock rom? If so, will I still have root after I install the update? (let's say the upcoming JB update)
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1- no cause you have to unlock your bootloader and they will see that...so you will void your warrany
2-you will be able to recieve OTA updates, but if you're running a custom rom and you're rooted you must not update through them!
matt95 said:
1- no cause you have to unlock your bootloader and they will see that...so you will void your warrany
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So there's no way I can root without unlocking the bootloader?
No, unlocked bootloader is a prerequisite for rooting.
aww. That's too bad. I don't wanna void my warranty yet since my phone is still quite new
Maxster93 said:
aww. That's too bad. I don't wanna void my warranty yet since my phone is still quite new
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yep, did the same thing, i have waited a bit to see if there was problems with the phone and then when i discovered that there was nothing wrong i unlocked it....after 1 week
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Hi guys, is there any way I can do a temporary root so that I can do a restore of my apps and data through Titanium Backup? I don't want to do a permanent root as I am happy with the official rom.
Theoretically yes, but why?
It should be possible, but you need to unlock your bootloader anyway. That your warranty is void and cannot be restored. If you don't want this you should wait for the revolutionary.io S-OFF.
AFAIK there's an issue with fastboot boot, which means you will need to flash the image and then restore the original. Anyway, you could just root and then delete su and superuser.apk, but again, why? That won't restore your warranty and bring no advantages. Just root and then - if you want to - flash the stock recovery again. You could even relock your bootloader...
dobbi10k said:
It should be possible, but you need to unlock your bootloader anyway. That your warranty is void and cannot be restored. If you don't want this you should wait for the revolutionary.io S-OFF.
AFAIK there's an issue with fastboot boot, which means you will need to flash the image and then restore the original. Anyway, you could just root and then delete su and superuser.apk, but again, why? That won't restore your warranty and bring no advantages. Just root and then - if you want to - flash the stock recovery again. You could even relock your bootloader...
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But HTC will still know it has been unlocked so the warranty won't be restored.
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But HTC will still know it has been unlocked so the warranty won't be restored.
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That was exactly my point: If you decide to void your warranty just to restore a backup, why unroot again?
I mean, if it's about hundreds of savegames, ok, but else I would restore everything manually. Just saying. I, myself, am waiting for all my issues to be fixed and than I might use revolutionary as soon as it's out.
No known temporary root methods at the moment for the One X or ICS 4.0.3.
You don't completely void the warranty anyway. They just won't accept any warranty claims that are a result of you unlocking the bootloader e.g. you somehow killed the bootloader trying to S-OFF it after unlocking via htcdev.
They do mention that using custom firmware may mean the phone can overheat or no longer conform to specs but I've never heard of anybody getting denied warranty service because of this. It is more to cover their back in the case of somebody doing something really daft with it.
Tiersten said:
No known temporary root methods at the moment for the One X or ICS 4.0.3.
You don't completely void the warranty anyway. They just won't accept any warranty claims that are a result of you unlocking the bootloader e.g. you somehow killed the bootloader trying to S-OFF it after unlocking via htcdev.
They do mention that using custom firmware may mean the phone can overheat or no longer conform to specs but I've never heard of anybody getting denied warranty service because of this. It is more to cover their back in the case of somebody doing something really daft with it.
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Thanks for your answers. I hope this guy hasn't rooted his sensation
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4235272/Young-dad-burned-by-his-mobile-phone.html
Can we expect a root without HTCDev unlock sometime in the future?
Don't wan't to void warranty, that's all...
TaLEntZ96 said:
Can we expect a root without HTCDev unlock sometime in the future?
Don't wan't to void warranty, that's all...
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Well devs are still working on it and hopefully we will, just don't know how long before it is possible.
I don't care about warranty because we don't have any in my country,though it's a pain in the a** to always use boot.img before flashing a kernel or rom,no access to recovery mode without passing by hboot and no small region-free FW updates from Mike
I am sure that our beloved devs will find a way to s-off the HOX sooner or later
You haven't checked my thread in General from yesterday, have you
We're nearly there...
if i unlock the bootloader the oficial android os will erased???
th3ofilos said:
if i unlock the bootloader the oficial android os will erased???
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no...but you will leave evidence of unlocking it and might lose warranty. What are trying to do?
glevitan said:
no...but you will leave evidence of unlocking it and might lose warranty. What are trying to do?
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I just wanted to know if i unlock the bootloader, i will lose my official android. If i root my phone, will my official android be removed? I mean that i will be able to update to a newer version of android, won't I?
Your Android OS will remain, but you might leave a trail that you have use a bootloader, it should not invalidate your warranty but, it depends on carrier/network
th3ofilos said:
I just wanted to know if i unlock the bootloader, i will lose my official android. If i root my phone, will my official android be removed? I mean that i will be able to update to a newer version of android, won't I?
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If you root the phone but stay stock you will be able to receive OTA updates. But you will lose root when you update. If you want to root, then u can wait until the new firmware is available in here and the dev's do their magic. You of course can always return to stock when needed, thou not all carriers RUU are available to download. Rooting usually is used to remove bloatware, make nandroid backups and use custom roms...why would you like to root your phone?
My understanding is that the retail verizon wireless edition (non-DE) of this phone can still be rooted. But you will trip knox, thus voiding warranty. I also understand you don't have an unlocked bootloader either.
I don't care about warranty, but I do want root. My question then becomes about future updates. If knox is tripped, can I still get to lollipop when it is released. I know I would probably loose root again at that point, but I live in the hope that eventually that too will get rooted (I know it may be vain hope, but still).
If my phone is rooted, will it block me from ever getting lollipop? Because without a bootloader, I can't put lollipop on through a custom rom either.
So, for someone who absolutely doesn't care about warranty issues, is root still a bad idea?
Thanks
nertskull said:
My understanding is that the retail verizon wireless edition (non-DE) of this phone can still be rooted. But you will trip knox, thus voiding warranty. I also understand you don't have an unlocked bootloader either.
I don't care about warranty, but I do want root. My question then becomes about future updates. If knox is tripped, can I still get to lollipop when it is released. I know I would probably loose root again at that point, but I live in the hope that eventually that too will get rooted (I know it may be vain hope, but still).
If my phone is rooted, will it block me from ever getting lollipop? Because without a bootloader, I can't put lollipop on through a custom rom either.
So, for someone who absolutely doesn't care about warranty issues, is root still a bad idea?
Thanks
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There is currently no known root method for the retail VZW Note 4.
Misterxtc said:
There is currently no known root method for the retail VZW Note 4.
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Interesting, I read somewhere you can root it still, but it will just trip knox. Maybe they were wrong.
I'm seriously struggling pulling the trigger on buying this without root. But I don't care about warranty.
nertskull said:
Interesting, I read somewhere you can root it still, but it will just trip knox. Maybe they were wrong.
I'm seriously struggling pulling the trigger on buying this without root. But I don't care about warranty.
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Nothing yet. It's a nice phone but if you need root go for the DE edition. I can live without root, it would be nice but it's not a big deal to me. I have other rooted phones I can mess with if I want.
nertskull said:
Interesting, I read somewhere you can root it still, but it will just trip knox. Maybe they were wrong.
I'm seriously struggling pulling the trigger on buying this without root. But I don't care about warranty.
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This phone is great as is. I personally would not let no root stop me from getting this phone. But its up to you.
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Hello everyone! It's been a month or so since I got a new LG G4 and I've been wanting to root it since the but I don't want to void the warranty yet, so I have a few questions about this. This isn't my first phone to root, but I need some info on this one.
1. What's the difference between *Low Effort Root**and *Bootloader Unlock and Root*?
2. The low effort root can save me from voiding my warranty? Note: I'm from Romania and my LGH815 is a Romanian model too.
3. If those are not the only ways to root it, is there any way of rooting and not voiding the warranty?
4. If question 2 or 3 has a positive answer, can I still get official updates from LG or do I need to download and flash them then root again?
Flaminel said:
Hello everyone! It's been a month or so since I got a new LG G4 and I've been wanting to root it since the but I don't want to void the warranty yet, so I have a few questions about this. This isn't my first phone to root, but I need some info on this one.
1. What's the difference between *Low Effort Root**and *Bootloader Unlock and Root*?
2. The low effort root can save me from voiding my warranty? Note: I'm from Romania and my LGH815 is a Romanian model too.
3. If those are not the only ways to root it, is there any way of rooting and not voiding the warranty?
4. If question 2 or 3 has a positive answer, can I still get official updates from LG or do I need to download and flash them then root again?
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You can use low effort and whenever you want to you can flash back to stock, unroot and make it look to LG (or to whoever might have given you a warranty) as if you never altered anything.
You never think about taking an ota while rooted but updating manually ("low effort" with newest firmware version, for example marcosuper7) is unproblematic. Ok?
android404 said:
You can use low effort and whenever you want to you can flash back to stock, unroot and make it look to LG (or to whoever might have given you a warranty) as if you never altered anything.
You never think about taking an ota while rooted but updating manually ("low effort" with newest firmware version, for example marcosuper7) is unproblematic. Ok?
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I agree with the manual update, but as far as I know, there are some things that show that I've been changing or altering the software on the phone, some code, I don't really know.
Flaminel said:
Hello everyone! It's been a month or so since I got a new LG G4 and I've been wanting to root it since the but I don't want to void the warranty yet, so I have a few questions about this. This isn't my first phone to root, but I need some info on this one.
1. What's the difference between *Low Effort Root**and *Bootloader Unlock and Root*?
2. The low effort root can save me from voiding my warranty? Note: I'm from Romania and my LGH815 is a Romanian model too.
3. If those are not the only ways to root it, is there any way of rooting and not voiding the warranty?
4. If question 2 or 3 has a positive answer, can I still get official updates from LG or do I need to download and flash them then root again?
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1. low effort only roots and do not touch the bootloader... with bootloader unlock your warranty is void.
2. yes (if you restore to stock with lg flash tool before.)
3. no other way to root till now.
4. no. you have to flash official updates with lg flash tool and root again.
dusu84 said:
1. low effort only roots and do not touch the bootloader... with bootloader unlock your warranty is void.
2. yes
3. no other way to root till now.
4. no. you have to flash official updates with lg flash tool and root again.
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Thank you very much!
Flaminel said:
Thank you very much!
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i edited my post... low effort save you from voiding your warranty if you go back to stock after root with lg flash tool
dusu84 said:
i edited my post... low effort save you from voiding your warranty if you go back to stock after root with lg flash tool
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Understood. But what's the difference between those 2? Besides "touching" the bootloader. Any advantage on any of them or disadvantage?
Flaminel said:
Understood. But what's the difference between those 2? Besides "touching" the bootloader. Any advantage on any of them or disadvantage?
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with an unlocked bootloader you can install twrp and then you can flash something for example custom roms.
dusu84 said:
with an unlocked bootloader you can install twrp and then you can flash something for example custom roms.
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Could I use FlashFire instead, without an unlocked bootloader?
Flaminel said:
Could I use FlashFire instead, without an unlocked bootloader?
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as long as its a stock based rom then yes but without an unlocked bootloader not for custom roms.
dusu84 said:
as long as its a stock based rom then yes but without an unlockes bootloader not for custom roms.
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I would use it to flash mods. Thank you very much for your help!
Great informative thread! A few Q's if its OK?
1. So with Low Effort Root I can use Xposed and all the modules, remove bloatware and if something goes wrong I can just us the LG tool for restoring?
2. When an OTA is released I will loose root, or I won't even be able to install OTAs?
3. I really want to change the colours if the notification quick toggles, that should be able to do with Xposed, right?
4. Are all G4 updates available viua the LG tool, don't want to use old firmwares just because I'm rooted?
5. After rooting and changing what I want to change can I then remove root to make the phone more secure and not as "open" and potentially vulnerable?
Laban said:
Great informative thread! A few Q's if its OK?
1. So with Low Effort Root I can use Xposed and all the modules, remove bloatware and if something goes wrong I can just us the LG tool for restoring?
2. When an OTA is released I will loose root, or I won't even be able to install OTAs?
3. I really want to change the colours if the notification quick toggles, that should be able to do with Xposed, right?
4. Are all G4 updates available viua the LG tool, don't want to use old firmwares just because I'm rooted?
5. After rooting and changing what I want to change can I then remove root to make the phone more secure and not as "open" and potentially vulnerable?
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1. yes
2./4. you never try to take an ota on a rooted g4. You flash through flashtool or push a rooted image when it's available, a couple of days after official release at max.
3. yes
5. most of the advantages of root are lost once you unroot. The only one you don't lose (that i can think of) is that you're still as debloated as before unrooting.
android404 said:
1. yes
2./4. you never try to take an ota on a rooted g4. You flash through flashtool or push a rooted image when it's available, a couple of days after official release at max.
3. yes
5. most of the advantages of root are lost once you unroot. The only one you don't lose (that i can think of) is that you're still as debloated as before unrooting.
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Thank you!
But changes like the one mentioned in (3) will still be there after I remove root?
I'm pretty sure Xposed or any associated modules won't work, or won't work properly if you un-root. Why are you so worried about leaving your phone rooted?
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rick09 said:
I'm pretty sure Xposed or any associated modules won't work, or won't work properly if you un-root. Why are you so worried about leaving your phone rooted?
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Not sure I'm that worried, but I know that some apps won't start on a rooted device. But I remember something about an app that hides the fact that the phone is rooted, does that exist?