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So unlocking the bootloader will whipe your DRM, so i was wondering wich SE app's/services wont work anymore after unlocking?
- TrackID
- PlayNow
what else?
Another would be the 'Like' feature that came with 2.3.3 (facebook integration) as it depends on TrackID.
When 2.3.4 will be here, i think i need to restore all applications that are preinstalled, yes?
The last time went from 2.3.3 to 2.3.3 build 4 i had to flash back to uk generic 2.3.2, gingerbreak and go all the way up again. Also, i had to remove my user data because the screen wasnt responsive because of diffrend settings.
This makes me a very sad panda.
Can anyone tell me if i will be able enable the OTA process by restoring system apps?
Or might it be a better idea to unlock the bootlocker? But then again, is this really worth it? Isnt this a lot of stuff i have to go through? (will i lose my user data? what are the advantages of unlocking the bootlocker and the disadvantages?)
Thanks in advance, as you can see i have quite a lot of questions.
Ya unfortunately you'll have to restore the system apps if you want to OTA update as it checks. As for unlocking your bootloader, if you can do it I would recommend it. Reason being is that once you do you'll never have to worry about losing all your data again (not to mention the ability to overclock and run CM7) as you will always be able to be easily rooted making backing things up/restoring a cinch (either through a nandroid backup or titanium). That being said the SE way of unlocking your bootloader WILL wipe your userdata, as for the paid solutions Im not so sure. And as a disadvantage to the unlocked bootloader SE says it MAY void your warrenty, also you will loose TrackID as it deletes your DRM certs, however I think the paid solution avoids this.
BuckM said:
That being said the SE way of unlocking your bootloader WILL wipe your userdata, as for the paid solutions Im not so sure. And as a disadvantage to the unlocked bootloader SE says it MAY void your warrenty, also you will loose TrackID as it deletes your DRM certs, however I think the paid solution avoids this.
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What is TrackID and what are the DRM certs for? I have been wondering this, since the Sony Ericsson unlock page says it will damage the DRM keys.
( http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/ )
"Certain content on your phone may also be inaccessible due to the removal of DRM security keys and the secure user data partition while unlocking the boot loader."
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I'm mainly concerned if all the Playstation functionality will still be accessible (don't want to take the Playstation out of "Playstation Phone"... then it'd just be "Phone" >_>)
From what I have read, users like Alejandrissimo and Jinx13 provide a service by which they use the SETool on your computer (remotely connected to their dongle, which functions as a smart card to enable the SETool software), to unlock your phone without damaging the DRM keys. Which again, really has me wondering what the DRM keys are for...
So if anyone can provide details on the DRM keys and what they are for and what they will break if damaged, etc., that would be very helpful!
I don't currently have an Xperia Play, but am now strongly considering getting one, since I'm on AT&T and there's a nice blue AT&T version out now... So if anyone can verify the success of the SE unlock method on the AT&T version, that would be good to know too... I have read that the remote unlock method via Alejandrissimo has worked for AT&T users.
~Troop
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What is TrackID and what are the DRM certs for? I have been wondering this, since the Sony Ericsson unlock page says it will damage the DRM keys.
( http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/ )
I'm mainly concerned if all the Playstation functionality will still be accessible (don't want to take the Playstation out of "Playstation Phone"... then it'd just be "Phone" >_>)
From what I have read, users like Alejandrissimo and Jinx13 provide a service by which they use the SETool on your computer (remotely connected to their dongle, which functions as a smart card to enable the SETool software), to unlock your phone without damaging the DRM keys. Which again, really has me wondering what the DRM keys are for...
So if anyone can provide details on the DRM keys and what they are for and what they will break if damaged, etc., that would be very helpful!
I don't currently have an Xperia Play, but am now strongly considering getting one, since I'm on AT&T and there's a nice blue AT&T version out now... So if anyone can verify the success of the SE unlock method on the AT&T version, that would be good to know too... I have read that the remote unlock method via Alejandrissimo has worked for AT&T users.
~Troop
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The DRM keys have nothing to do with playstation. They manage the digial rights of sony media, so you will loose Track ID. You will loose the ability to "facebook like" media you are playing in the stock music player. and you will loose the ability to purchase music and videos from the sony qriocity store. Afaik thats about it.
The se unlock method doesn't work. Att is carrier locked.
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I have now successfully relocked my bootloader and returned to stock ROM with my Acro S. I used the instructions and relock-files for Xperia S found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527159
It´s good to know that it´s no problem to return to stock and a locked bootloader. I updated via Sony PC Companion so everything seems to be OK.
so which FTF file you use?
there is no FTF file for arco s ... what should we do?
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I have now successfully relocked my bootloader and returned to stock ROM with my Acro S. I used the instructions and relock-files for Xperia S found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527159
It´s good to know that it´s no problem to return to stock and a locked bootloader. I updated via Sony PC Companion so everything seems to be OK.
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thyk888358 said:
there is no FTF file for arco s ... what should we do?
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Use the FTF-file for Xperia S.
this way DRM keys are lost forever, check Trak-ID
veimus said:
this way DRM keys are lost forever, check Trak-ID
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The TrackID-app works just fine, or what else do you mean by checking Trak-ID?
when you unlock bootloader you lose DRM keys, and some software installed on the phone stops working, i.e. trackID.
And "share location" in the SMS app will not work anymore once you unlocked the bootloader.
thanks...
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Use the FTF-file for Xperia S.
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By using the Xperia S ftf, don't you lose access to your SD card?
It's no use!
Because when you unlock bootloader, you must go to SONY net to get unlock code.
SONY know you unlock bootloader!
When your Phone get something wrong and send back to SONY, they will say no guarantee. Because you have unlock bootloader.
Do you have see the instruction at SONY net when you unlock bootloader?
So what advantage when you unlock bootloater and relock it?
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By using the Xperia S ftf, don't you lose access to your SD card?
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no because after you flash the relock ftf is only for the bootloader, you still have to flash stock firmware again or else it won't boot
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Because when you unlock bootloader, you must go to SONY net to get unlock code.
SONY know you unlock bootloader!
When your Phone get something wrong and send back to SONY, they will say no guarantee. Because you have unlock bootloader.
Do you have see the instruction at SONY net when you unlock bootloader?
So what advantage when you unlock bootloater and relock it?
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i think he knows that already, he probably wanted to switch back to stock rom from cyanogenmod, and just happened that there's a new rom out but nobody posted one that's for his region, so he needed to use pcc.
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Because when you unlock bootloader, you must go to SONY net to get unlock code.
SONY know you unlock bootloader!
When your Phone get something wrong and send back to SONY, they will say no guarantee. Because you have unlock bootloader.
Do you have see the instruction at SONY net when you unlock bootloader?
So what advantage when you unlock bootloater and relock it?
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I´m aware of that. But some key-functions that I use don´t work in CM, that is ANT+ and support for Camera-button wake to camera-app.
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when you unlock bootloader you lose DRM keys, and some software installed on the phone stops working, i.e. trackID.
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I have unlocked my bootloader and then relocked it as stated above. But my TrackID app works just fine apparently, so that doesn´t seem affected. But I cannot send my location within the SMS-app, that´s the only thing I have encountered so far with stock-rom after relock.
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I have unlocked my bootloader and then relocked it as stated above. But my TrackID app works just fine apparently, so that doesn´t seem affected. But I cannot send my location within the SMS-app, that´s the only thing I have encountered so far with stock-rom after relock.
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Hi, I've relocked my arc s bootloader, how do I confirm that the relocking is success (assuming no error mean GO)& as regard of the trackid, I will get [5] Error. Please try again later. so I lost my DRM but ota update with locked bootloader will not brick hp.
11/018/2012 00:18:50 - INFO - Flashing preset
11/018/2012 00:18:50 - INFO - TA value : [00, 00, 00, B0, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, ]
11/018/2012 00:18:50 - INFO - Flashing finished.
11/018/2012 00:18:50 - INFO - Now unplug the device and power it on
and if i want unlock my bootloader what need?
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when you unlock bootloader you lose DRM keys, and some software installed on the phone stops working, i.e. trackID.
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You're wrong man, i unlock both acro s and arc s, installed CM10 and track id works fine. Never got a problem with DRM keys.
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thyk888358 said:
there is no FTF file for arco s ... what should we do?
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Use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934330
Is it possible to unlock, flash CM, then relock without reverting to stock and still keeping CM?
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Is it possible to unlock, flash CM, then relock without reverting to stock and still keeping CM?
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obviously no
ri7672 said:
Because when you unlock bootloader, you must go to SONY net to get unlock code.
SONY know you unlock bootloader!
When your Phone get something wrong and send back to SONY, they will say no guarantee. Because you have unlock bootloader.
Do you have see the instruction at SONY net when you unlock bootloader?
So what advantage when you unlock bootloater and relock it?
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Thats not even true. If ur sending in ur phone for warranty with unlocked bootloader. Sony takes a fee to restore bootloader. Else just relock bootloader urself before sending it in. So plz stop spreading lies and plz use a brain before posting.
Hi, my Acro S has an unlocked bootloader. If I flash this FTF no brand file. Will my bootloader will be locked again? Because as you've stated that the file wasn't modified in any way. Correct me if I'm wrong . Thanks.
Hi, everyone
I have my experience about unlock bootloader, I have unlocked bootloader via official Sony method, when DRM lost, I decided to relock again, flash stock FW via flashtool and repair via PC Companion, after that DRM has been recovered.
So, I've tried to unlock bootloader via testpoint using S1tool, after unlocked, flashed custom kernel and ROM. DRM still lost
Any solution ?
danisariandi said:
Hi, everyone
I have my experience about unlock bootloader, I have unlocked bootloader via official Sony method, when DRM lost, I decided to relock again, flash stock FW via flashtool and repair via PC Companion, after that DRM has been recovered.
So, I've tried to unlock bootloader via testpoint using S1tool, after unlocked, flashed custom kernel and ROM. DRM still lost
Any solution ?
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When you unlocked via Sony method, you lost your DRM forever . There's no way to recover it. So, I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about the recover of the DRM keys.
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When you unlocked via Sony method, you lost your DRM forever . There's no way to recover it. So, I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about the recover of the DRM keys.
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When I claimed warranty, I relocked, repair via PC Companion, DRM worked ( transfer music via media go works ) then when I unlocked via testpoint, DRM LOST !! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
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When I claimed warranty, I relocked, repair via PC Companion, DRM worked ( transfer music via media go works ) then when I unlocked via testpoint, DRM LOST !! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
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Never heard of a way to restore the DRM Keys after unlocking via official method. There's some thread that explains this? I've read from many sources (xda, setool) that once you unlock the official way, you lost the DRM keys forever.
Maybe when I repaired via SUS, DRM recovered
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Maybe when I repaired via SUS, DRM recovered
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That's not possible AFAIK. I've searched again and the only thing I found is: You lost your DRM Keys.
DRM Keys are stored in a trim area and when you unlocked with the official method, they're erased. SEUS or SUS can't restore.
At least that's what I've read about this.
Btw, I sent my previous lt18 to Sony warranty without the Keys and they returned a new one. So, the fact that they didn't complain, doesn't mean much. But let's wait for more experienced members opinion. That's all that I know about this.
Ok thanks, I'll kepp my warranty as well
Have you read this post about retrieving drm keys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1855798
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cokey77 said:
Have you read this post about retrieving drm keys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1855798
Sent from my LT15i using xda app-developers app
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I've read it now. Let's focus some points:
No.. Working Music info download or Track ID does not prove that DRM is recovered. There are workarounds to make stuff like FBMedia like or TrackID work..
From: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30815987&postcount=11
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Yes I know what you are saying.. Like I said using your method does make em work(there are other work arounds too).. but the DRM is not recovered. The system is just fooled..
From: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30823437&postcount=15
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The only post that supports that might be possible is this one (but, in my humble opinion, this is just a bogus information):
Some info from MDPI device forums.
They have been saying, that just relocking bootloader and unlocking via test point method recovers DRM. No need to reflash ROM/kernel or anything else. Neither you need any Walkman apps or stuff.
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I strongly believe that like heinrichkaiser said in that thread: This method make the apps work, fooling the system, but don't restore DRM.
They even linked some topics in the setools forum, and no one (even the_laser) could confirm that there's a way to restore. That doesn't mean that it's impossible to make some functionalities work after the loss of the DRM Keys, as you can read here:
ok here's the simple steps after unlocking bootloader.
1. Uninstall the old TrackID (its a system app so u need root)
2. Download the latest TrackID on android market (the silver one/not the old blue)
3. Backup the FBMusicLikes.apk/Music Likes app
4. Uninstall the FBMusicLikes.apk/Music Likes app (its a system app so u need root)
5. Reinstall the FBMusicLikes.apk/Music Likes app
6. connect to net and try it, its now working again.
thanks to rioener for this discovery
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EDIT: Other post Blagus in the "[Tutorial] Relock bootloader!" thread.
You still can't get DRM back. It's gone from the phone!
From: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335
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+1 Thread about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404972
I want to return the device to stock and read on the sony dev website you have to flash a firmware but I do not see the Z5P, is there any other way?
thanks,
AC
Is there a reason why you need to relock the BL? According to Sony, there is no way to restore an unlocked BL.
Q: If I change my mind later on, is there any way to restore my device?
A: No. Once you have unlocked the boot loader, you will not be able to revert the device back to a locked or original state or restore the DRM security keys. You can however use the Flash tool for Xperia™ devices to flash a generic Sony ROM, although it will not receive automatic software upgrades.
Source
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fancymans said:
Is there a reason why you need to relock the BL? According to Sony, there is no way to restore an unlocked BL.
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Thanks but the Z5P does not come up as a supported device for the flash tool yet, so I guess the answer is no
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Thanks but the Z5P does not come up as a supported device for the flash tool yet, so I guess the answer is no
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Whats up with warranty after unlocking BL?
miHah said:
Whats up with warranty after unlocking BL?
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Ask your consumer affairs lawyer in your locality. That's the proper person to ask.
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whats the use of re-locking it man you already lost your TA
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I want to return the device to stock and read on the sony dev website you have to flash a firmware but I do not see the Z5P, is there any other way?
thanks,
AC
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You can relock it using flashtool. Just choose Xperia Z5 when the device window appears. I've already tried it, works like a charm.
Not sure if you can relock it without the back up drm keys. Since there isn't a backup program yet I would assume you've already lost the drm keys. I'm afraid you won't be to revert back to the same. Camera quality and x reality will be affected.
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You can relock it using flashtool. Just choose Xperia Z5 when the device window appears. I've already tried it, works like a charm.
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OK i have found flashtool and click the x, but when when the device reboots and the device chooser comes up, there is no z5p to choose from so just to confirm we use z5, correct?
thanks,
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OK i have found flashtool and click the x, but when when the device reboots and the device chooser comes up, there is no z5p to choose from so just to confirm we use z5, correct?
thanks,
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Some important things before you attempt the relock:
The DRM keys will not be restored after the relock.
You have to reflash the entire firmware or just flash the stock kernel before relocking the bootloader.
The phone should be on stock kernel, if you try to relock it with custom kernel the phone might brick.
Click BLU in flashtool and follow the instructions.
arjun.arora said:
Some important things before you attempt the relock:
The DRM keys will not be restored after the relock.
You have to reflash the entire firmware or just flash the stock kernel before relocking the bootloader.
The phone should be on stock kernel, if you try to relock it with custom kernel the phone might brick.
Click BLU in flashtool and follow the instructions.
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OK sucessfully flashed the FTF, how can I check if the BL is locked?
thanks,
aaronc_98 said:
OK sucessfully flashed the FTF, how can I check if the BL is locked?
thanks,
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Turn off the mobile.
Press the BLU button in flashtool.
Press the volume down button of your mobile and connect it to the PC.
A pop up window will open, select Xperia Z5 (Z5P is not listed yet).
Another window will open, if you see Relock, press it, the bootloader will be relocked.
Let the process be over, then restart the mobile.
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Turn off the mobile.
Press the BLU button in flashtool.
Press the volume down button of your mobile and connect it to the PC.
A pop up window will open, select Xperia Z5 (Z5P is not listed yet).
Another window will open, if you see Relock, press it, the bootloader will be relocked.
Let the process be over, then restart the mobile.
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Thanks Arjun!
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Relocking Bootloader
I had to unlock my device's bootloader to downgrade it to marshmallow because of the WiFi issue in Nougat, so i did it and didn't backed up the DRM keys(i didn't knew i am supposed to do it. It wasn't mentioned in the tutorial i was following or i missed it). Anyways now i am on marshmallow and i am unable to update it VIA xperia companion. It complains that bootloader is unlocked. Now if i lock the bootloader will xperia companion will work ? What is the affect of the lost DRM keys ? And if anyone knows the WiFi issue is sovled or not ?
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I had to unlock my device's bootloader to downgrade it to marshmallow because of the WiFi issue in Nougat, so i did it and didn't backed up the DRM keys(i didn't knew i am supposed to do it. It wasn't mentioned in the tutorial i was following or i missed it). Anyways now i am on marshmallow and i am unable to update it VIA xperia companion. It complains that bootloader is unlocked. Now if i lock the bootloader will xperia companion will work ? What is the affect of the lost DRM keys ? And if anyone knows the WiFi issue is sovled or not ?
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Salam
use flashtool to upgrade / downgrade to any rom! you have unlocked bootloader! i never used xperia companion to update my z5p
Companin works after Relock BL
neodescorpio said:
I had to unlock my device's bootloader to downgrade it to marshmallow because of the WiFi issue in Nougat, so i did it and didn't backed up the DRM keys(i didn't knew i am supposed to do it. It wasn't mentioned in the tutorial i was following or i missed it). Anyways now i am on marshmallow and i am unable to update it VIA xperia companion. It complains that bootloader is unlocked. Now if i lock the bootloader will xperia companion will work ? What is the affect of the lost DRM keys ? And if anyone knows the WiFi issue is sovled or not ?
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Yes It will work!
IslzaeL said:
Yes It will work!
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Can confirm I did the same thing and forgot the keys (new to Sony devices vs. Google). IF you use the XDA FlashTool, you can re-lock the bootloader and Xperia Companion will recognize for a Factory reset of your device.
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Can confirm I did the same thing and forgot the keys (new to Sony devices vs. Google). IF you use the XDA FlashTool, you can re-lock the bootloader and Xperia Companion will recognize for a Factory reset of your device.
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Did you restore the DRM keys from Xperia Companion or at least retrieve all the functions that DRM related (Xreality, Bravia engine ... )