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Looking for everyone's thoughts regarding CM vs AOKP for our device.
I was on AOKP for a while and liked it. I'm currently on Blazer ICS and also tried Calkulin's ROM... am I correct in that both of those are stock based with stuff removed, as opposed to CM and AOKP both being AOSP based with things added. And the stock ones have TouchWiz...
I did like AOKP's customization options. I'm wondering how they compare in terms of battery life and performance.
Thoughts?
I love CM9. It's VERY smooth and I have no complaints about battery life.
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I've always been an AOKP fan, but lately I've been on CM9. I love AOKP's extra customization options, but CM9 for me has less bugs and gets better battery life. The only thing I really miss is the brightness slider in the notification tray. AOKP doesn't have a 4G Toggle either which bugs me. Both of them seem equally smooth to me and usually get nearly the same Quadrant. And yeah, you're correct that CM9 and AOKP and other ROMs too like MIUI are AOSP... based off of stock Android and not TouchWiz.
I'm interested in this too.
Is CM10 close for our phone (I know it's close for the Galaxy Nexus - probably the easiest phone to get CM10, I would imagine).
I'm having an absolutely miserable time on the stock TouchWiz ICS update.
I wouldn't mind going back to GB for the CM9, my concern is losing the stock Exchange sync schedule features (as I lost going to AOKP, briefly, before going back. I receive such a high volume that I have peak and off-peak schedules configured (apparently not available in custom ROMs) so that sync is manual between 8-6, M-F and then syncs 15 minutes during off-peak hours. I don't want to lose this functionality. It was not there on AOKP, it may be a TouchWiz feature.
Hey all. I have a ICS (4.04) Galaxy S 3 for ATT. Its been working for me great, but since i removed the bloatware like gallery and s-memo things like the copy/cut/paste and the little icon that takes to to your gallery in the camera app functions wont work.
What GSIII roms would you recommend? A couple things i would like is if the battery life is the same or better than stock roms and the home screens had a landscape mode as well as portrait. (And hopefully they work in nova launcher as well).
When i had my GS1 i used the AOKP rom and i loved that. It just didn't have the homescreen portrait/landscape thing. Thanks for your help!
Edit: Also, is ICS>JB or are there pros and cons on both sides?
Different people, different preferences.
therefore, look, read, and test them out yourself.
psm510 said:
Hey all. I have a ICS (4.04) Galaxy S 3 for ATT. Its been working for me great, but since i removed the bloatware like gallery and s-memo things like the copy/cut/paste and the little icon that takes to to your gallery in the camera app functions wont work.
What GSIII roms would you recommend? A couple things i would like is if the battery life is the same or better than stock roms and the home screens had a landscape mode as well as portrait. (And hopefully they work in nova launcher as well).
When i had my GS1 i used the AOKP rom and i loved that. It just didn't have the homescreen portrait/landscape thing. Thanks for your help!
Edit: Also, is ICS>JB or are there pros and cons on both sides?
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If you like aosp then flash task's 650 rom. Pacman and rootbox are pretty good too. I would update to stock jb before you do anything. You will find it much better than ics.
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I have to agree that JB is better than ICS just seems smoother and more polished to me. As far as the roms go i am useing the official CM 10.1 and love it. But you reall need to look and test a couple of the diffrent ones to find what suits you best.
These threads won't last long.
Recommended way:
1. Read OP for ROM features.
2. Check for ROM threads on top n see atleast a few latest pages for any issues or thanks. These are best indicators of how satisfied people are.
3. I'm on JB and this is quite stable. So I can say there are some very good JB ROMs out there.
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Thanks everybody. First im going to upgrade to Stock 4.2. After a bit of that ill go to AOKP Then branch out from there.
I'd like some input from you guys that have tried both stock-based and CM/AOKP-based roms. What features of stock do you miss if you're on CM/AOKP? Or, what features of CM/AOKP do you miss if you're on stock-based rom?
My last phone (lost it, didn't have insurance) was the HTC One X...I usually prefer the customization potential of CM/AOKP, but for the One X at the time, the battery life on stock-based was FAR superior to CM, so I had to go with stock for work purposes.
What are your experiences with the GS2?
Stock, because every AOSP rom I've tried has horrible call quality and I've tried every trick in the book to fix it. I also like using mass storage instead of mtp, alarm clock and music player from touchwiz. Bluetooth is also more reliable. I do miss the aokp clock, it doesn't work quite right on touchwiz.
The main advantage of aokp is that it's more up to date, but the differences between 4.1 and 4.2 are pretty negligible.
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gc84245 said:
Stock, because every AOSP rom I've tried has horrible call quality and I've tried every trick in the book to fix it. I also like using mass storage instead of mtp, alarm clock and music player from touchwiz. Bluetooth is also more reliable. I do miss the aokp clock, it doesn't work quite right on touchwiz.
The main advantage of aokp is that it's more up to date, but the differences between 4.1 and 4.2 are pretty negligible.
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I also have a hard time living without theme chooser.
mmapcpro said:
I'd like some input from you guys that have tried both stock-based and CM/AOKP-based roms. What features of stock do you miss if you're on CM/AOKP? Or, what features of CM/AOKP do you miss if you're on stock-based rom?
My last phone (lost it, didn't have insurance) was the HTC One X...I usually prefer the customization potential of CM/AOKP, but for the One X at the time, the battery life on stock-based was FAR superior to CM, so I had to go with stock for work purposes.
What are your experiences with the GS2?
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AOKP all the way - I think it comes down to one thing for me...Speed... Running other launchers like Nova, the live wallpapers, animations, transitions on AOKP vs TouchWiz is really noticeable. The TW framework seems to slow the whole phone down. The stock dialer/messaging app on TW is slow and clunky compared to AOSP/AOKP. Plus there's the theme chooser, or lack of themes for TW.
I want to like TW, I really do - I tried all the available ROMS with different combos of kernels, and no matter what I do, it just seems clunky in my eyes. I miss SOME TW apps and functionality, but if I bought the S4, I'd go the route of the AOSP version.
Wifi calling, it's the only reason.
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Using Stock Rom JB 4.1.2
JB 4.1.2 stock is very stable, i have try several Custom Roms JB4.2.2 to the point i flash phone almost very day and i wnet back to stock, here are the reason why:
I use Video chat [hang out and talk], this does not work in any JB custom ROM.
USB to PC gives me the correct transfer speed, Custom ROMS either does not work or if it work transfer data very slow or gets stuck
Video share to smart TV i can simply play the video from my phone to my smart TV in Seconds, i have not see this feature to work with Custom ROM w/o getting a 3rd party app.
Battery Life in stock is better than custom ROMS in my case.
these are the main reason i sue stock ROM.
Hi all!
I've become quite the Flashaholic since I got my Rogers S3 about three months ago... Just to name a couple ROMS I've tried: ParanoidAndroid, LiquidSmooth, Task650
I've stuck with Task650 now for a few weeks because I simply LOVE how smooth it runs, battery life is great (Noop and OnDemand Kernel Settings) and I love the Customization that comes with AOKP. I truly have no complaints...or so I thought.
I began rooting / flashing my phone the day after I got it; so I never had much chance to play around with the stock rom / TouchWiz features, So I wasn't even sure what all the features were! Today I was sitting here, and I saw a commercial for the S4, how a guy is watching a video on his phone and he looks away; the video automatically paused because he wasn't looking at the screen. I thought "This is pretty neat! I wonder if my S3 can do anything like that. Perhaps I'll have to modify it somehow or get a specific app / service." and so I started doing research. Turns out the S3 has something similar to this called "Smart Stay". I looked in my menu's and discovered it doesn't exist on Task650 so I googled it, and turns out it's not featured in any AOKP ROM. It's a TouchWiz feature. There were a couple other nifty Touchwiz features I liked such as "Camera Quick Access", "Double tap to top" and the Motion Quick calls (Hold phone up to ear while on a Contact Card or Text message to automatically call someone). None of these (that I can discover) are available for AOKP.
TLDR= Touchwiz has a lot of nifty features I currently don't have running Task650 AOKP.
I'm debating moving back to Touchwiz, and wanted the opinions of you all. The downsides to switching back? Any Custom ROMS with all these features that you'd recommend and Kernels for said ROMS with good battery life?
Tell me your thoughts!
Thanks!
Don't lol
I honeslty think he has the must up to date ideas/fixes of all the rom's out there. I'd keep it.
Dragostini said:
Hi all!
I've become quite the Flashaholic since I got my Rogers S3 about three months ago... Just to name a couple ROMS I've tried: ParanoidAndroid, LiquidSmooth, Task650
I've stuck with Task650 now for a few weeks because I simply LOVE how smooth it runs, battery life is great (Noop and OnDemand Kernel Settings) and I love the Customization that comes with AOKP. I truly have no complaints...or so I thought.
I began rooting / flashing my phone the day after I got it; so I never had much chance to play around with the stock rom / TouchWiz features, So I wasn't even sure what all the features were! Today I was sitting here, and I saw a commercial for the S4, how a guy is watching a video on his phone and he looks away; the video automatically paused because he wasn't looking at the screen. I thought "This is pretty neat! I wonder if my S3 can do anything like that. Perhaps I'll have to modify it somehow or get a specific app / service." and so I started doing research. Turns out the S3 has something similar to this called "Smart Stay". I looked in my menu's and discovered it doesn't exist on Task650 so I googled it, and turns out it's not featured in any AOKP ROM. It's a TouchWiz feature. There were a couple other nifty Touchwiz features I liked such as "Camera Quick Access", "Double tap to top" and the Motion Quick calls (Hold phone up to ear while on a Contact Card or Text message to automatically call someone). None of these (that I can discover) are available for AOKP.
TLDR= Touchwiz has a lot of nifty features I currently don't have running Task650 AOKP.
I'm debating moving back to Touchwiz, and wanted the opinions of you all. The downsides to switching back? Any Custom ROMS with all these features that you'd recommend and Kernels for said ROMS with good battery life?
Tell me your thoughts!
Thanks!
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Weedwacker said:
I honeslty think he has the must up to date ideas/fixes of all the rom's out there. I'd keep it.
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I agree, the Task650 ROM is amazing, but I really do feel like my phone is lacking now that I know the numerous features that AOKP and CM Don't include; that touchwiz has. Trust me, I have no real complaints other than I want more bells and whistles >.<
Dragostini said:
I agree, the Task650 ROM is amazing, but I really do feel like my phone is lacking now that I know the numerous features that AOKP and CM Don't include; that touchwiz has. Trust me, I have no real complaints other than I want more bells and whistles >.<
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Good to see the Touchwiz vs. AOSP continuing.
You'll find die hard supporters of both here.
It's the age old chicken /egg Ford/Chevy argument. Most common answer you'll around here is "flash something and see if you like it"
While touchwiz has a bunch of good features that you might use some people want pure android without the Samsung bloat.
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Good to see the Touchwiz vs. AOSP continuing.
You'll find die hard supporters of both here.
It's the age old chicken /egg Ford/Chevy argument. Most common answer you'll around here is "flash something and see if you like it"
While touchwiz has a bunch of good features that you might use some people want pure android without the Samsung bloat.
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Hey hey! KorGuy haha, We meet again lol... You helped me with my Kernel Questions a few months back.
I do agree, the 'Flash and try for yourself' approach is best, I'm just looking for thoughts and opinions / Recommended ROMs/Kernels.
Side question; The features I listed in the OP: Are they exclusive to Stock or TW? Or do other Custom ROM's make use of them? I'm loving Task650 but I want the maximum bells and whistles my S3 is capable of...
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Hey hey! KorGuy haha, We meet again lol... You helped me with my Kernel Questions a few months back.
I do agree, the 'Flash and try for yourself' approach is best, I'm just looking for thoughts and opinions / Recommended ROMs/Kernels.
Side question; The features I listed in the OP: Are they exclusive to Stock or TW? Or do other Custom ROM's make use of them? I'm loving Task650 but I want the maximum bells and whistles my S3 is capable of...
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The features you are looking for a Touchwiz based features. The Samsung / Touchwiz framework will not mesh with AOSP.
There are some custom Touchwiz based ROMs that are good, (Synergy, Hyperdrive etc)
I used to use Task's ROM for a good couple months flashing every update and when the new version of ParanoidAndroid I flashed it and haven't looked back,
I know there is one or two ROMs that are Touchwiz based with AOSP themes if that is what you are looking for.
I find the Touchwiz setup gimmicky but that is just me. I like feature rich options that are pure function and no gimmicks.
KorGuy123 said:
The features you are looking for a Touchwiz based features. The Samsung / Touchwiz framework will not mesh with AOSP.
There are some custom Touchwiz based ROMs that are good, (Synergy, Hyperdrive etc)
I used to use Task's ROM for a good couple months flashing every update and when the new version of ParanoidAndroid I flashed it and haven't looked back,
I know there is one or two ROMs that are Touchwiz based with AOSP themes if that is what you are looking for.
I find the Touchwiz setup gimmicky but that is just me. I like feature rich options that are pure function and no gimmicks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106830 <---- It's listed in the Verizon Forums, but it says it works with all American carriers including AT&T; which is the same as Rogers in Flashing rules; so theoretically, this is the link I am looking for, if I were to install Hyperdrive ya?
Here is the AT&T version of Hyperdrive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176793
KorGuy123 said:
The features you are looking for a Touchwiz based features. The Samsung / Touchwiz framework will not mesh with AOSP.
There are some custom Touchwiz based ROMs that are good, (Synergy, Hyperdrive etc)
I used to use Task's ROM for a good couple months flashing every update and when the new version of ParanoidAndroid I flashed it and haven't looked back,
I know there is one or two ROMs that are Touchwiz based with AOSP themes if that is what you are looking for.
I find the Touchwiz setup gimmicky but that is just me. I like feature rich options that are pure function and no gimmicks.
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what is a gimmick with tw? multiview and allshare cast seem a whole lot more functional than 90% of the UI tweaking AOSP ROMs offer. I'm an AOSP man myself until TW 4.1.2 because truthfully it makes AOSP look like a big gimmick.
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what is a gimmick with tw? multiview and allshare cast seem a whole lot more functional than 90% of the UI tweaking AOSP ROMs offer. I'm an AOSP man myself until TW 4.1.2 because truthfully it makes AOSP look like a big gimmick.
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Smart stay, the motion controls etc I find them gimmicky. Some people like them I don't.
You know what they say... Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
much icieut
Honestly, the feature that I miss most is the amazing camera on TW. It's loads better than the CM camera in every single feature. I miss being able to take non-blurry HDR photos or panoramas that don't take 5 minutes to render.
However, there is a bug in TW that causes horrible battery drain, so CM 10.1 nightly + Lean kernel are the way to go.
Piegoodman said:
Honestly, the feature that I miss most is the amazing camera on TW. It's loads better than the CM camera in every single feature. I miss being able to take non-blurry HDR photos or panoramas that don't take 5 minutes to render.
However, there is a bug in TW that causes horrible battery drain, so CM 10.1 nightly + Lean kernel are the way to go.
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I don't know what TW ROMs you have been using but I get 2-3 hours of on screen time with Stockoroma or S3rx ROM or wicked sensation on att I know if you flash Ktoonez kernel you have to rename a file or it cause battery drain also greenify is a good app that's helps keep certain apps asleep and not running in the background and for aosp ROMs task650 is a good one but for some reason the browser won't let me download music from a website I like so I stick to TW
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I don't know what TW ROMs you have been using but I get 2-3 hours of on screen time with Stockoroma or S3rx ROM or wicked sensation on att I know if you flash Ktoonez kernel you have to rename a file or it cause battery drain also greenify is a good app that's helps keep certain apps asleep and not running in the background and for aosp ROMs task650 is a good one but for some reason the browser won't let me download music from a website I like so I stick to TW
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I've been using stock TW.
And holy crap, Leankernel is amazing. I've been getting 3 hours and 45 minutes of screen time with 15+ hours on battery total. I've never had such good battery life on this phone!
You can try Synergy Rom and Ktoonsez kernel. I'm easily getting 5 hours screen time and roughly 1.5% battery drain at idle with wifi always on. The best part is multi window on a debloated and deodexed rom.
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all I've been able to find are aosp, aokp CM based roms...
while I understand the customizability of CM is superb and the vanilla Google platform is great... I've grown accustomed to many touchwiz based features since having both vibrant and now gs3 and want all my gs3/touchwiz motion and swiping goodies to work correctly n would like a good gs4 ported Rom based off of 4.2.2 if one exists.
There aren't any 4.2.2 Touchwiz roms that I know of for our device.
Nope.
You can buy an S4.
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thanks captain obvious. lol
I wonder what the limitation is with bringing an s4 Rom over to the s3?
in any case.... what then are some of your favorite 4.2.2 CM builds out there folks?
also, are there any aokp/aosp rooms with similar dialers and contacts features available on touchwiz like Swype -> to call <- to text contacts etc? any cm bulls keep gs3 specific motion features like calling contacts displayed on screen just by putting phone to the ear etc?
If you want touchwiz features then flash a touchwiz rom. The op of every aosp rom will tell you that.
On another note, my favorite aosp rom is liquid smooth, the latest version gives me amazing battery (over 4 hours screen on time). My favorite TW rom is S3Rx. Has tons of customization and also great battery life.
Edit: the aosp MMS apk has the ear to dial feature you want though. You have to turn that on in the settings.
As far as I know, only one country has got 4.2.2 on the international s3. Itll be a while before we see much for 4.2.2 tw. There's no s4 ports for the same reasons there's no international s3 ports I'm sure. The hardware difference makes porting difficult, and most who can do it will probably be working on things that are more unique. There's probably little that distinguishes 4.1.2 tw from 4.2.2 tw. That's my best guess anyway.
Closest you'll likely find for now is Universe S4.
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thanks fellas, I really appreciate the responses... I think I'll give each of those a test drive across the next few weeks and see if any suit my likes and needs..
oh... I've last question is about flashing cm based roms... the "wipe" is no different from the other roms right? it will leave my sd partition with pictures and personal downloads alone right?
Or will it try to reformat and repartition everything meaning I need to completely back up all onboard memory to the computer?
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oh... I've last question is about flashing cm based roms... the "wipe" is no different from the other rooms right? it will leave my sd partition with pictures and personal downloads alone right?
Or will it try to reformat and repartition everything meaning I need to completely back up all on board memory to the computer?
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Its the same but you should always back up your important files, better safe than sorry
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Switching between TW (4.1.2) and cm/aosp (4.2.2) will mess with the layout of your internal storage. Look up android 4.2 0 folder.
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OP im in the same boat as you.
i like the cheesey TW features. i like the swipe to capture screen, telling my camera to take a picture, and esp. the sbeam touching the back of the phones.
i know NFC works with others but you cant send big files. TW and sbeam transfers huge files no problems.
Thats the only reason why i havnt changed