Backup Question - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys, a simple question:
Does a cwm backup also backup the kernel???
Thanks

It does not. The recovery (CWM) is inside the kernel, so it cannot include the kernel in the backup. On other phones it does, as long as the recovery is a seperate partition (not in the kernel).

^ This is absolutely correct and a perfect explanation.

And if i install cwm with x-parts???
Or is there an other way to do this ??

Spatinator said:
And if i install cwm with x-parts???
Or is there an other way to do this ??
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Any way to backup a kernel? If you ask me, the kernel doesn't really need backing up as all it takes is "fastboot flash boot boot.img" to reinstall the kernel.

This may help ya^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059412

So guys, the actual Problem is i dont have a pc (will come back soon) and i want to go back to the lupus ics v8 Kernel, cause it works better. A friend hss the exactpy this setup so my idea was to backup the stuff he hqs and then pqste it to my phone, so that i have the v8 kernel.
Some ides how that works???

Download fastboot files, put your device in fastboot and run the bat and type "fastboot flash boot boot.img"
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Eem... I dont have a pc...

You said your friend has same setup.
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I mean the same setup but instead of lupus v9 he has lupus v8

You cannot do that from your phone. You will need a pc, but fastboot is easy to set up. In this guide you can find the download link for fastboot+adb only. (I didn't add any variables, and it worked fine. This will make sense when you have read the guide.)
Then you'll need to find the lupus v8, and just flash it. I don't think you can extract a kernel from a phone, though.

Yes you can, i just found a few for samsung and htc devices, but not for xperia devices.
Well anyways ....
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Trying to install CM9 stable, stuck at boot logo.

My friend is currently running Arconium ICS on his Xperia, and now when I tried to install CM9 (Did full wipe > install CM > install gapps in CWM) it just gets stuck at the boot logo (SONY). After recovering the backup of Arconium in CWM it boots up fine again.
Since the boot logo didn't change, I'm thinking CM9 maybe didn't install a new kernel or something? Is there something I can do to make sure that CM9 fits as well as possible? If kernel switching is on the table I'd like to be able to do this from CWM.
Thank you!
bajsmumsaren said:
My friend is currently running Arconium ICS on his Xperia, and now when I tried to install CM9 (Did full wipe > install CM > install gapps in CWM) it just gets stuck at the boot logo (SONY). After recovering the backup of Arconium in CWM it boots up fine again.
Since the boot logo didn't change, I'm thinking CM9 maybe didn't install a new kernel or something? Is there something I can do to make sure that CM9 fits as well as possible? If kernel switching is on the table I'd like to be able to do this from CWM.
Thank you!
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you must install the kernel "boot.img" through flashtool
is inside the zip file
krattos said:
you must install the kernel "boot.img" through flashtool
is inside the zip file
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Do I have to do this via flashtool? No way to do it from inside CWM? Please excuse if this is a stupid question, I'm not still a 100 % sure what boot.img, recovery, kernel and all these are and how they fit together.
bajsmumsaren said:
Do I have to do this via flashtool? No way to do it from inside CWM? Please excuse if this is a stupid question, I'm not still a 100 % sure what boot.img, recovery, kernel and all these are and how they fit together.
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Yes, through the FlashTool is safer.
For all your doubts see this link, is a little extended but very complete.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133650
bajsmumsaren said:
Do I have to do this via flashtool? No way to do it from inside CWM? Please excuse if this is a stupid question, I'm not still a 100 % sure what boot.img, recovery, kernel and all these are and how they fit together.
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Boot.img is the kernel in a compiled file, which needs to be installed via fastboot. Flashtool includes fastboot aswell, so you can install the kernel(boot.img) using it.
Recovery is a certain 'program' used to install custom stuff, make full backups(Nandroid backup) and restore them, wipe/format partitions and some other stuff. Recovery can be included already inside the kernel, but there is also possibility to install it on /system partition for those who can't unlock bootloader and/or install custom kernel.
My recommendation - Don't do it if you don't understand anything. You should go and learn about the whole Android first, get yourself familiar with how to recover the phone(install stock firmware etc), what are the terms that we use, what is what etc, then come back. Else...you might get yourself a nice (temporary) brick and then you have another problem, how to get back the phone.
bajsmumsaren said:
My friend is currently running Arconium ICS on his Xperia, and now when I tried to install CM9 (Did full wipe > install CM > install gapps in CWM) it just gets stuck at the boot logo (SONY). After recovering the backup of Arconium in CWM it boots up fine again.
Since the boot logo didn't change, I'm thinking CM9 maybe didn't install a new kernel or something? Is there something I can do to make sure that CM9 fits as well as possible? If kernel switching is on the table I'd like to be able to do this from CWM.
Thank you!
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Obviously you didnt flash the kernel..and before doing that u need to make sure if ur bootloader is unlocked..if it is unlocked then only you can proceed with flashing the kernel and then installing the ROM.
Same Here!!
but Nothin seems to b workin for me!! Ive Done everything as per da instructions!
I flashed the boot.img file which i unzipped from the cm9 nozomi.zip file!!
I formatted the data, the cache and the dalvik cache and then installed the cm9 and gapps files as well and then when i reboot my device from the recovery menu it just gets stuck at the boot screen of free xperia!!
(
pleasehelp!!
Assistere said:
Same Here!!
but Nothin seems to b workin for me!! Ive Done everything as per da instructions!
I flashed the boot.img file which i unzipped from the cm9 nozomi.zip file!!
I formatted the data, the cache and the dalvik cache and then installed the cm9 and gapps files as well and then when i reboot my device from the recovery menu it just gets stuck at the boot screen of free xperia!!
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pleasehelp!!
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Dude, nozomi is only for Xperia S device. You installed the wrong ROM!
Go check the supported devices list to find your device's codename.
Someguyfromhell said:
Dude, nozomi is only for Xperia S device. You installed the wrong ROM!
Go check the supported devices list to find your device's codename.
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Dude mine is Xperia s is only!!
sorry i frgt to mention bout my phone earlier!!!
Assistere said:
Dude mine is Xperia s is only!!
sorry i frgt to mention bout my phone earlier!!!
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Then you are at wrong forum.

[Q] Potential Flash kernel without bootloader!!!!

Hello,
As many of you might already know of the app "Flash Image Gui"and that it alows the user to flash a kernel without having to unlock the bootlader. I had contacted the creator of the application to ask whether it would be possible for the Xperia Play!!!!!!!! He replied fairly short after saying
"To add support I need a tester with ADB and custom recovery knowledge to help me test, If you think you fit these criteria, let me know and we can work on testing!"
If anyone does fill the criteria could you please email [email protected] so that we can attempt to get Flash Image Gui for Xperia Play!!!!:laugh:
>.< Do you really need to multipost...
i dno if this can work, because the kernel partition is hidded, so not visible without fxp's kernel.
and then when it is visible, it is protected
It doesn't hurt to try. Maybe this guy has found a back door..... So to speak, if I knew more about it I'd definitely be down my xplay isn't doing anything but collecting dust
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I have talked with the developer, and he has told me this method is for flashing kernels without fast boot, but am unlocked boot loader is required.
This does seem like an interesting concept, and hopefully it will make life easier for those that do nit have access to a computer 100% of the time.
Sent from R800x
Interesting
Well I will find out Saturday if this will work as I have a meeting with him will let u guys know if it does
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Is it possible to flash a kernel with CWM? Because I've never seen it done with the play yet while flashing CM10 on my Galxay S3 its the easiest thing I've ever done with android, I just flash CWM and flash cm10 and its done... So is it possible?
TheCraig said:
Is it possible to flash a kernel with CWM? Because I've never seen it done with the play yet while flashing CM10 on my Galxay S3 its the easiest thing I've ever done with android, I just flash CWM and flash cm10 and its done... So is it possible?
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Flashing a kernel from CWM is not possible for the Play. The reason is because recovery is within the kernel.
Solar.Plexus said:
Flashing a kernel from CWM is not possible for the Play. The reason is because recovery is within the kernel.
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Not on stock play. It's booted from SD.
DubleJayJ said:
Not on stock play. It's booted from SD.
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Well, on stock ROM and kernel, recovery is usually installed to the /system partition.
Just curious, where's the information about recovery from SD?
That's all wrong
Recovery is loaded from ramdisk.
We can't flash a kernel from recovery because sony ericsson protected the /boot partition
nickholtus said:
That's all wrong
Recovery is loaded from ramdisk.
We can't flash a kernel from recovery because sony ericsson protected the /boot partition
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Isn't /boot the location of the kernel?
Yes, but that's only accisble when the phone is in fastboot
Does this thread is suggesting to flash a kernel using a flashable .zip with "write raw image" method?? Honestly it "CAN'T" be done. Nick already explain it but still.. Meh... Just so to get the whole idea of this suggestion, i tried it on mine. It just abort it coz there's no boot partition to load & write the boot.img(kernel). It can only be done if the recovery were not part of the boot partition. So...this is a pointless arguement. Mybe this thread oughta be closed. Just saying
Regards,
Sdojoin
nickholtus said:
Yes, but that's only accisble when the phone is in fastboot
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And just so I have my facts straight, doesn't XParts install CWM to /system on stock ROM? Since the Play has no recovery partition?
It can only be done if the recovery were not part of the boot partition
Not true, look at xperia 2012. Recovery included in kernel and you can flash from recovery
What about overclock with stock kernel then?
if this will happened, psxperia developer, will be enable to install ICS or JB or any other platform and make the psxperia available to ICS or JB or any other platform (he has r800at with lock bootloader so he can't test psxperia on other platform, and that's why he stooped the project. i asked him for port for ics, and he told me that he can't test it on xperia play with ics with full gamepad+touchpad support)
oc on stock kernel locked bootloader is higly possible.
i saw someone posted the modules on arc forum.
ask if he wants to make them for play stock 2.3.4 too

[Q] arc doesn't boot

Dear masters,
After 20 hours of reading and trying new things to me, I thought I finally knew what to do to get a custom ROM on my XPERIA Arc with stock 4.0.2.A.62 firmware. .62 seemed to be a pain in the ass, because this version doesn't want to get rooted. So I unlocked my bootloader and then flashed 4.0.2.A.42 on it. Everything on my phone was working fine.
Now I wanted to get a custom ICS ROM on my phone so I decided to go for Xperia Ice Cream Pureness V13. I downloaded the ROM and the patch for the arc and succesfully installed it with CWM recovery.
I did this by going into fastbootmode, flashed this kernel by doing "fastboot flash boot boot_ARC.img", because I needed a stock kernel, so I thought it would be better to get an advanced stock kernel. Then I did "fastboot boot recoveryARC.img" and my phone booted into CWM recovery. I had no errors whatsoever during the installation of the ROM and the patch. Using this recoveryARC.img file is my only way, because via the ROM manager app, I don't get into recovery.
When I tried to reboot, I just got another boot logo appearing, but just stays there and won't boot. See the image in the attachment.
So now I'm here with a not working phone and my noobyness.
Please help, thanks in advance,
Ruben
You say that you have installed advanced stock kernel.
Is it compatible with your ROM??
Edit...
Readed a little. Any stockbased kernel is suppoused to work.
Try with the latest stock kernel.
He says to let it be for a hour.
If anything wont help, revert to all stock.
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TheHaso said:
You say that you have installed advanced stock kernel.
Is it compatible with your ROM??
Edit...
Readed a little. Any stockbased kernel is suppoused to work.
Try with the latest stock kernel.
He says to let it be for a hour.
If anything wont help, revert to all stock.
Sent from my LT15i using xda premium
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Yea, so it's stockbased.
Anyways, I just kept on trying things and also tried a different ROM and now Jellybean Sandwich 7.3 just WORKS.
Still got no idea what caused the stuck booting screen.
To me, all these files, kernel, rom, flash, root, etc, etc complicates the whole thing and it doesn't make sense to me anymore what works with what etc... LOL. Anyways, it works now, thanks for caring
snsgn said:
Yea, so it's stockbased.
Anyways, I just kept on trying things and also tried a different ROM and now Jellybean Sandwich 7.3 just WORKS.
Still got no idea what caused the stuck booting screen.
To me, all these files, kernel, rom, flash, root, etc, etc complicates the whole thing and it doesn't make sense to me anymore what works with what etc... LOL. Anyways, it works now, thanks for caring
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ahhh you are in JB rom....and so you aren't in stockbase rom/kernel -.-
you Must learn some of kernel,rom and other specifics or you brick your phone
now you are in Jelly Bean Version---> so with Rom JB and Kernel JB....if you flash kernel ICS or GB in rom JB not work and phone stop on boot (like your phone) ok??
Raschild6 said:
ahhh you are in JB rom....and so you aren't in stockbase rom/kernel -.-
you Must learn some of kernel,rom and other specifics or you brick your phone
now you are in Jelly Bean Version---> so with Rom JB and Kernel JB....if you flash kernel ICS or GB in rom JB not work and phone stop on boot (like your phone) ok??
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When I go to 'About Phone' now, I see the kernel is 2.6.32.9-perf / [email protected] #1.
Seems like this is the original kernel, so the kernel never flashed? Strange...
Everything works fine...
No longer booting
So i saw this thread and its relevant to me. Figured i would start here.
Using CWM i loaded Iced bean ROM to my phone.. in my excitement i forgot to flash the arcknight kernal.. Now my phone simply boots to Sony Ericcson boot screen. No further..
on top of that i cannot seem to load into fastboot. When i try the steps from this thread.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034087 i cant get my fastboot to work.. no blue LED.
Have i ruined my phone?
I don't know it will work or not,but man, you can try ...
1: Using flash tool, put your Arc into Fastboot mode.
2: reflash boot_ARC.img
3: try some roms such as Ultimate HD 2.0 (recommended) , Jelly SandWich......
i hope it will be useful for you.
zazabo-san said:
I don't know it will work or not,but man, you can try ...
1: Using flash tool, put your Arc into Fastboot mode.
2: reflash boot_ARC.img
3: try some roms such as Ultimate HD 2.0 (recommended) , Jelly SandWich......
i hope it will be useful for you.
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My problem is i cant seem to get into fastboot mode. I followed the steps to unlock bootloader but i cant get into fastboot. never get the blue LED.
@OP
The problem is, you 'jumped' from GB to ICS straight away with cwm flash. When changing OS, be sure to flash the new OS ftf first, then flash the kernel, then flash the ROM thru cwm at last. It's good to know though that now your phone is working again.
Sent from my LT15i
Got it fixed up using the SEUS software. Thanks to all for the help

[Q] about roms (stock/custom)..

hi..
i have a stock rooted and bloated xplay (not much time to fiddle) w/c i bought a year ago.. so i was thinking of changing roms and i plan on using the phone for gaming.. i have read some thread about pros/cons of custom and stock-based. others say that the stock rom is still the best for gaming (debloated of course).. so my question is..
should i go for a custom rom..? or stick with stock..?
if i'll stick with stock.., what's the best baseband(?) ..? currently mine's on .42...
what are the apps w/c are safe to delete..?
as for overclocking.., what is the best kernel that you'd recommend..?
thanks...
Xperia NXT lite with doomkernel
i was looking into that actually...
but some cons have given me second thoughts.. like wifi issues and unsupported touchpads (other roms).. that's why i'm asking about stocks..
this will also be my first time flashing custom roms.. kinda scary.. wehehehe...
qtjecs said:
i was looking into that actually...
but some cons have given me second thoughts.. like wifi issues and unsupported touchpads (other roms).. that's why i'm asking about stocks..
this will also be my first time flashing custom roms.. kinda scary.. wehehehe...
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I think you should stick with the stock. This is the most.stable & supports full touchpad.
Custom roms are not as stable as stock...
I think you can just use v6 supercharger or supremacy script to make your rom fast...
[ you have to do it manually with smanager]
Press thanks if I helped..
Sent from my ST18i
thanks.. maybe i'll try them both...
i just want to ask for the list of bloatwares.. : )
thanks
First of all, you have to give MORE info about the phone: locked/unlocked bootloader, phone model.....
I advice you to get a stock-based rom, instead of sticking with the stock one, because those are inproved with some tweaks that cannot be flashed on your current stock, and have built-in apps and are already debloated.
If this is your first rom flash, just follow this steps:
BEFORE DOING ANYTHING, get the stock firmware that fits your region and stock android version if you want to go back from here or anywhere else
- root with any method, I recommend SuperOneClick
- install ClockWorkMod via RecoverX
- install TitaniumBackup from the market, and backup all user apps you want have in your new rom (be careful, some roms and kernels doesn't go well with backup restoration. Check the rom's thread for backup issues)
- reboot into CWM recovery and do a nandroid backup. It will save everything and you can restore your phone to its initial state, to the point you can not tell if it has had any changes
- flash the rom following the instructions given by rom builder
- flash any addons you want after rebooting at least one time, every addon separately (1 reboot after every addon)
- if you want better performance, get supercharger v6 or supremacy script as said before
Now, the stock firmware you got at first is to repair your phone if a nandroid backup restore doesn't do it.
If youwant to go back to stock, just restore the nandroid backup. If you want to take it to the carrier to fix it for whaterever reason, you also have to unroot and delete any app that uses root permissions, like TitaniumBackup. Then, when you see your Play is exactly as it was before doing anything of this, you can take it there safely
And finally, the best baseband is -36 cause it has the more balanced stats between signal reception on gsm/wifi and battery consumption, but some roms use -64. If you're adviced to flash a stock firmware before the custom rom flashing process, thats for installing the needed baseband and some other components. Happy flashing!!!!
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qtjecs said:
as for overclocking.., what is the best kernel that you'd recommend..?
thanks...
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All custom kernels support overclock and all are good at it. Just flash the kernel according to your rom cook's advice
And if you were wondering, custom roms doesn't have any problems/bugs if they are finished. You should expect bugs if there is only the first or second release of that rom, but if it's finished you'll be fine by following the steps exactly as directed.
You can try The JokaWild ROM 'S.B .69 Tweaked ROM' FINAL (v3) and DiXperia 2 'Everlasting' | Performance. Stability. Experience. if you want a stable, fast rom. Those have given me good results, but if you want to know which is the best rom you have to try them all cause they don't run exactly they same on all phones, even if it's the same model. Maybe NXT or Aurora rom could be better for you....
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While you're dispensing advice, may I ask which upgraded kernel is best to use with R800i_4.0.2.A.0.62_(1253-4437)? That's what I have on my device.
Is there any benefit to actually installing cwm with RecoveryX as opposed to just loading it with fastboot when needed? That is, will I be more likely able to launch it in a crisis if it is installed on the device?
drinkypoo said:
While you're dispensing advice, may I ask which upgraded kernel is best to use with R800i_4.0.2.A.0.62_(1253-4437)? That's what I have on my device.
Is there any benefit to actually installing cwm with RecoveryX as opposed to just loading it with fastboot when needed? That is, will I be more likely able to launch it in a crisis if it is installed on the device?
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RecoverX is the easiest way to get CWM. Think about it as a quick 3-step process that you will do only one time. You don't lose anything
Additionally, I don't know what process are you talking about, since flashing a clockworkmod.img, installing the CWM app from the market and RecoverX have permanent effects all of them. The only exception is when you change kernel and it has a built-in recovery, you get the kernel's recovery instead of the original one. I recommend RecoverX because it supports the widest range of phone models and firmwares (I have an r800a, but it was not listed as a supported device in the CWM app, so...)
And again, it's always better to have a custom stock-based rom than just the 4.0.2.A.0.62 stock one
julian280 said:
Additionally, I don't know what process are you talking about, since flashing a clockworkmod.img, installing the CWM app from the market and RecoverX have permanent effects all of them. The only exception is when you change kernel and it has a built-in recovery, you get the kernel's recovery instead of the original one.
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fastboot boot boot.img (with a cwrecovery boot) appears to get you straight into cwrecovery without installing anything, as opposed to fastboot flash boot boot.img
julian280 said:
And again, it's always better to have a custom stock-based rom than just the 4.0.2.A.0.62 stock one
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Well, I took your advice, and I installed doomkernel and jokawild
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176502
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532883
I only wish I had known sooner what was in the addon packages for jokawild, that could be documented a lot better. basically that's where all the apps went.
now I will probably reflash and do it right
no cifs in doomkernel
JIC anyone is wondering
CIFS and NFS were taken out and then he moved on to the ray or something
drinkypoo said:
Well, I took your advice, and I installed doomkernel and jokawild
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176502
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532883
I only wish I had known sooner what was in the addon packages for jokawild, that could be documented a lot better. basically that's where all the apps went.
now I will probably reflash and do it right
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So, have you had a happy flashing? I hope so.....
About the addons you don't have to reflash everyting to install them, just flash one by one, separated by a reboot (you can reboot directly into CWM instead of loading to homescreen everytime, that woluld take ages to flash all of them ).
If you were wondering about root, it's not necesary to flash the root addon since doomkernel is already prerooted, so you get superuser since the first boot with it
I have had a pretty happy flashing, in that nothing went horribly wrong
I do think I more or less know what I'm doing now. Heh heh.
As you can see from my sig I am now running lupus v6 and it's been very stable, smooth, etc. And I added the cifs and ntfs modules. I didn't reboot between everything which is probably why I had to load the wifi modules over again, so I'm very glad they were provided. But everything is working great now, thanks.
drinkypoo said:
JIC anyone is wondering
CIFS and NFS were taken out and then he moved on to the ray or something
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I don't know you, but I can access my pc files from my Play with "ES file explorer" without even installing CIFSmanager. The changelog in DK's thread says he removed it, but at least for me it works .
To access from the phone to pc you have to put the folder you want as a "shared folder" and give "total control" permissions to "all". For accessing from the pc to phone just do the same with the folder on your sdcard connected to pc and, go to tools/connect to network device and select that folder. Now you can view your files and do streaming by opening the folder on ES file explorer in LAN section and from "My PC", where it appears as a hard disk with drive letter
e.g. music on "Xperia PLAY R800a" (H:/)
Hope this helped. I'm on DooMKernel v14 with jokawild but this has worked on other ROMs
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drinkypoo said:
fastboot boot boot.img (with a cwrecovery boot) appears to get you straight into cwrecovery without installing anything, as opposed to fastboot flash boot boot.img
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I rarely use command prompt to perform operation cause I prefer to use flashtool instead, and the only time I installed CWM was through RecoverX, so I haven't experienced the difference.....
Yeah I've used the smb built into ES but I prefer to use the smb functionality built into the Linux kernel to using libsmb, which is what's happening when you use es file explorer, or pretty much anything else with built in smb browsing. I also don't care for ES file explorer's interface. Of course, open manager doesn't have smb support...
I have figured out the mtp/msc stuff some time ago.
anyway, pretty much all the kernels have a recovery, some of them have too many recoverys in my opinion so it doesn't really matter. but if you use fastboot boot boot.img then it boots without installing. I don't know if this works for anything but recovery, like if you could boot a kernel this way, probably not. I like command-line stuff. I do use flashtool's gui for ftfs though, of course.
a little off topic..
what should be the sequence..?
from stock..,
nandroid BU, flash pre-req stock ROM, unlock bootloader, flash custom ROM,..?
- or -
nandroid BU, unlock boot loader, flash pre-req, then custom ROM..?
will i lose root access when i unlock the boot loader.?
thanks...
qtjecs said:
will i lose root access when i unlock the boot loader.?thanks...
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In my case I reflashed with a stock ftf right after unlocking, and then installed a kernel which rooted.
drinkypoo said:
In my case I reflashed with a stock ftf right after unlocking, and then installed a kernel which rooted.
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..?
so it's nandroid BU, unlock boot, kernel, stock ROM then custom ROM..?
a few more question..
will i lose unlocked bootload when i flash rom..?
is kernel also included when you do a nandroid BU..?
sorry.. just a newbie...
thanks...
qtjecs said:
..?
so it's nandroid BU, unlock boot, kernel, stock ROM then custom ROM..?
a few more question..
will i lose unlocked bootload when i flash rom..?
is kernel also included when you do a nandroid BU..?
sorry.. just a newbie...
thanks...
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you have the sequence right, I don't know if nandroid backs up the kernel. I would guess no, but I could be wrong, and hope I am.
you don't care anyway. you can reflash back to a stock kernel. just make very very sure you never flash a cdma to a gsm or a gsm to a cdma. a, at, i are all gsm... if you do that you need testpoint reflash as far as I know.
you should also do a titanium backup, that gets you all the apks on your system now, handy for restoring any games on your current rom that aren't on your new rom.
Well, you can unlock your downloader at any time, by IMEI method through Sony webpage or through alejandrissimo's testpoint method. It is permanent, so it doesn't matter if you change Rom or kernel, it will remain unlocked forever , and if for whatever reason you have to take your phone to carrier for warranty, it will appear locked for Sony (I already did it, and they didn't void my warranty)
Just follow the steps I gave you, it's not that complicated. You can flash first the Rom or first the kernel, it doesn't affect anything, except when you change android version (GB to ICS or something), then flash the kernel first and then the new Rom.
Flashing a rom doesn't change the kernel, so if you're on DoomKernel and "A" Rom, you can switch to "B" Rom and stick to DK, IF IT'S ON THE SAME ANDROID VERSION.
Also you can change kernel while keeping the same rom
And respecting to nandroid backup, it saves everything but kernel, baseband and some sections of internal memory that you should not worry about. That's why you're able to restore a backup with the same or other kernel without any worry
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[q] my xperia play is stuck on bootloader after flashing kernels

Guys i really need help, I'm using an xperia play and i had just unlocked the bootloader and then flashed a the trueancestors ics rom and the LuPuS_zeus_Stock-gB+iCsv7-full kernel. Now it turns out that i didnt like the rom so i put it back to stock, still with the lupus kernel. Everything was working however i wanted to have the doomkernel v14. So i flashed the doomkernel and it was working however the wifi had erroros so i changed back to the lupus kernel. Again everything was working fine now. I then found out how to fix the wifi problem on doomkernelv14 so refrlashed that kernel. Before i reflashed the kernel i deleted the trueancestors isc rom as i didnt like it so i thought it would be ok. After the flash i tried to reboot the device, and it was stuck on the bootloader for doomkernel, not in a bootloop just stuck at doomkernel bootloader. I tried to fix this by going to recovery (clockwork mod) and then did a factory reset, wiped the cache and data and the dalvik cache as i saw these online for instructions on how to fix this problem. Still i had the same problem, stuck at bootloader. So i tried somthing different and reinstalled the trueancestors ics rom, and tried to reboot the xperia play, again stuck at bootloader. Im sorry if this was a bit long but I AM LITTRALLY BEGGING FOR SOME HELP! Please make a suggestion as to how i can fix this ASAP. Can it be fixed?Thank you for you Advice it is very much aprecciated. Ive posted this somewhere else in which i couldnt find but i really need help on this, please can anyone help. :crying:
you shouldn't post a like or not like any developer handmake. try back to a stock..
Mushtaqs said:
Guys i really need help, I'm using an xperia play and i had just unlocked the bootloader and then flashed a the trueancestors ics rom and the LuPuS_zeus_Stock-gB+iCsv7-full kernel. Now it turns out that i didnt like the rom so i put it back to stock, still with the lupus kernel. Everything was working however i wanted to have the doomkernel v14. So i flashed the doomkernel and it was working however the wifi had erroros so i changed back to the lupus kernel. Again everything was working fine now. I then found out how to fix the wifi problem on doomkernelv14 so refrlashed that kernel. Before i reflashed the kernel i deleted the trueancestors isc rom as i didnt like it so i thought it would be ok. After the flash i tried to reboot the device, and it was stuck on the bootloader for doomkernel, not in a bootloop just stuck at doomkernel bootloader. I tried to fix this by going to recovery (clockwork mod) and then did a factory reset, wiped the cache and data and the dalvik cache as i saw these online for instructions on how to fix this problem. Still i had the same problem, stuck at bootloader. So i tried somthing different and reinstalled the trueancestors ics rom, and tried to reboot the xperia play, again stuck at bootloader. Im sorry if this was a bit long but I AM LITTRALLY BEGGING FOR SOME HELP! Please make a suggestion as to how i can fix this ASAP. Can it be fixed?Thank you for you Advice it is very much aprecciated. Ive posted this somewhere else in which i couldnt find but i really need help on this, please can anyone help. :crying:
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When switching kernels with different partition layout you have to delete data and system partition in fastboot mode.
I'm lazy to type again so here is a link where it is explained already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849536&page=100
You can prevent future problems by wiping data and system partittion from CWM and THEN flash new kernel that have different partittion layout
Bakisha said:
When switching kernels with different partition layout you have to delete data and system partition in fastboot mode.
I'm lazy to type again so here is a link where it is explained already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849536&page=100
You can prevent future problems by wiping data and system partittion from CWM and THEN flash new kernel that have different partittion layout
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I havent tried this yet,becuase i need my dad to allow flash tool to work (Parental controls ffs -.-") however i saw the thread and i saw this part saying enter these commands "fastboot erase userdata and fastboot erase system i undestand how to get the command thing open but how do u enter these in, and what i mean is do you just open the command thing and just paste these in or do u have to right click somthing open comand promt here and all the stuff then enter them? Also these steps u listed, everything is fine its just my lack off knowladge for some of these things which i do apologize for
" Fully working steps, that is 100% working:
1.flash ftf with unlocked vendor partition (.62 or .79)
2.flash lupus gb kernel
3.erase system and data from fastboot
4.enter recovery and flash your rom "
Where do you get the unlocked vender partition, and which one is better .62 or .79 and if u could send me a link as your helping me i think ur choice of links for this is more reliable than mine, and again this is greatly appreciated.
" Fully working steps, that is 100% working:
1.flash ftf with unlocked vendor partition (.62 or .79)
2.flash lupus gb kernel
Download file name R800i_4.0.2.A.0.79.ftf from Xperia Play Index - ROM'S, FIRMWARE, KERNEL'S, GUIDE'S, THEMES, MOD'S second post have firmware files
Guide how to use flashtool you can find at [GUIDE][18th Dec][4Noobs] Flashing A FTF File Using Flashtool
Flashing .79 or .62 firmware is necessary if you are planning to use lupus gb or icd/gb kernel - and you only need to do it once.
Flashing kernel is same, but when pressed on lighting icon, choose "fastboot"
3.erase system and data from fastboot
Ok, i made a zip for you. Download it from attachment, unpack to anywhere you like and double-click file named "start". Power off phone, press search and while keeping it pressed, plug in usb. I don't think you need admin rights for that, but:
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ROM PLACED ON YOUR SD CARD! Just in case, because that program will erase everything from your phone.
You should be able to enter recovery and/or flash your rom/restore your backup.
4.enter recovery and flash your rom "
Also, read some sticky threads, they are there for a reason
Again im really sorry to bother you with this, but what if i dont want to flash the rom, becuase i didnt like it in the first place so i went back to stock, however this method of returning to stock was to flash the R800i_4.0.2.A.0.62_(1253-4437).ftf file. Now what it did was return it to stock rom (AFTER i tried the rom i didnt like) and unrooted the phone, i dont know if it returns the phone to stock firmware, and if the method of the system data wipe thing with the command prompt deleted everything, what can i flash? Little more explaination as to why im asking. Before this boot stuck thing hapenned i had used that same ftf file to return it to stock and unrooted. I re-rooted the phone and then flashed the lupus kernel. Everything was fine. I wanted to flash the doomkernel because like a dum nut i wanted to show off that i could overclock to 2ghz ( if i wanted to) as if alrdy stated before and did so. I think you can only flash zip files from your SD card so the ftf file wont be able to be flashed while on the device. So what do i flash? Should i just flash the rom i dont like and try return it to stock, then flash the ftf .79 firmware again after re-rooting the phone, then flash the doomkernelv14. In short i want to stay with the normal gingerbread 2.3.4 with doomkernelv14. Again i havent tried this yet and also sorry for these long rambly posts, i just want to give you as much info as possible in order for you to help me. Thank you so much for your solution btw much appriciated.:good:
And almost forgot i also want it back to rooted but i can do that myself, i just thought i'd specifiy it just incase its worth anything.
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2408688
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2408688
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Alright ive had the chance to try it out and i just got started on the firmware flash, problem is that its stuck at 16/033/2013 14:33:15
- INFO - Preparing files for flashing
16/033/2013 14:33:53 - INFO - Please connect your device into flashmode.
16/033/2013 14:33:54 - INFO - Opening device for R/W
16/033/2013 14:33:54 - INFO - Reading device information (stuck here)
Any sugessions to what i should do?
Alright i fixed the firmware flash problem and have made it all the way to the the part where you flash your custom rom and the phone should magicly work again. Ive got past the doomlord booting screen, thats good, now im stuck at a black screen, any ideas on whats going on?
K so i fixed all the above problems, by using a different kernel, and repeating all the previous steps, THE XPERIA PLAY IS BACK DUDE THANK YOU( hit the thanks button like 100 times).
Mushtaqs said:
K so i fixed all the above problems, by using a different kernel, and repeating all the previous steps, THE XPERIA PLAY IS BACK DUDE THANK YOU( hit the thanks button like 100 times).
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Glad to helpfull
Remember, kernel must much rom. Gb stock kernel for gb sony based rom, you'll get stuck agan in kernel logo if if you flash kernel that don't match rom/firmware
Just read in kernel thread for info on wich roms it works
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Everythings fine at the moment and i dont want to make any more dumb mistakes so im just going to ask if wiping the data and system partitions in CWM still deleted everything. I just recently got all of my apps back and all that good stuff, i just want to know if they will get erased if i do this. My deepest appologies for bothering you with something so minor and selfish.
Sorry another selfish request (Damit) but when ever i flash the doomkernel v14 my wifi gets error, i was wondering if u knew how to fix this, if u dont and have the free time or feel like it, direct me to somone who does?
Mushtaqs said:
Everythings fine at the moment and i dont want to make any more dumb mistakes so im just going to ask if wiping the data and system partitions in CWM still deleted everything. I just recently got all of my apps back and all that good stuff, i just want to know if they will get erased if i do this. My deepest appologies for bothering you with something so minor and selfish.
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Mushtaqs said:
Sorry another selfish request (Damit) but when ever i flash the doomkernel v14 my wifi gets error, i was wondering if u knew how to fix this, if u dont and have the free time or feel like it, direct me to somone who does?
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Yes, if you wipe data and system then EVERYTHING is deleted. All your apps (data) and even android OS itself (system). You'll have to either flash new rom or restore backup after wiping system
Doomkernel need wifi modules to be installed from CWM recovery to have working wifi
I'll attach it
Im wondering about my battery life, because it seems to be draining faster. Im using no frills cpu with the lupus kernel alowing me to overclock to 1.6 ghz. I set my higest on 1613 mhz and lowest on 249mhz using the smartassv2 governer. any idea to whats going on ?
ok...i screw up my xperia play... dunno what to do.
hi guys, been a noob after i fed up with my xperia x8 now i having a xperia play f or 2 years and try to install a custom kernel and roms but i end up brick my phone. it just stuck at logo "xperia free play". it still can enter cwm recovery mode but when i use the method press the arrow thing then plug in the usb cable to pc , it seems my pc did detect my phone but cant show up my memory card in 'my computer' window. The i try to use fastboot & flashtool both can detect my phone after plug in. Here is what i do before brick:
first thing i did on my phone was to upgrade the stock kernel 4.0.2.a.0.42, then i unlock the bootloader, root it, and start download the custom rom without download the requirement kernel. after that, i install CWM using fast boot, put the custom rom to sd card, wipe user data, bla bla bla, then install the custom rom, the next thing i see is the problem i talking about earlier. So i try to using the service update from SCE but it just say im using a modified kernel hence i unable recover it using that method. so, i try to use flash tool x10 (i cant get any working download it keep saying error 404 link, this is the best i have now) when i press the flash it come out red words with error usb ...the thing is my phone cant get detected by my computer.... What to do or it is over? (p/s : i download the flash tool & adb package winrar file & the custom rom i mention is close 2 perfection)
I know is a bit long but I really need help on my phone, i still have a x8 here from my mom and mine is xperia play brick for 3 days now i still cant find a way to solve it. PLEASE HELLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPP. THANK YOU FOR THOSE RESPONSE~!
Bakisha said:
Glad to helpfull
Remember, kernel must much rom. Gb stock kernel for gb sony based rom, you'll get stuck agan in kernel logo if if you flash kernel that don't match rom/firmware
Just read in kernel thread for info on wich roms it works
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Man i was doing so well before, but im now stuck in a bootloop. I cant enter the recovery menu as the phone just keeps bootlooping. Also with lupus kernel the menu doesnt come up. I just erased the user data and system with ur zip from before and flashed aurora play with lupus v12.5 kernel It worked like everything else. i got more curious so i did the same thing erased user and system data then flashed gin2jellybean with the same kernel.( i followed ur intructions from before on how to flash roms n stuff) Everything worked again. I wanted a new kernel so i flashed extreme kernel r3. phone got stuck in a bootloop. So i erased user data and system data, then flashed and ftf stock rom and then flashed extreme kernel r3. everything was working. I went into titanium backup and uninstalled some system apps and accidently deleted the one that let you see the running services to see available ram. So i cleared data and and system data reflashed ftf stock rom in flashmode ofc, and extreme kernel in fastboot. I got a bootloop, so i tried all the different kernels that i could and i cant get into the menu for recovery. Can you please help me once again, i'll thank every post.
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Man i was doing so well before, but im now stuck in a bootloop. I cant enter the recovery menu as the phone just keeps bootlooping. Also with lupus kernel the menu doesnt come up. I just erased the user data and system with ur zip from before and flashed aurora play with lupus v12.5 kernel It worked like everything else. i got more curious so i did the same thing erased user and system data then flashed gin2jellybean with the same kernel.( i followed ur intructions from before on how to flash roms n stuff) Everything worked again. I wanted a new kernel so i flashed extreme kernel r3. phone got stuck in a bootloop. So i erased user data and system data, then flashed and ftf stock rom and then flashed extreme kernel r3. everything was working. I went into titanium backup and uninstalled some system apps and accidently deleted the one that let you see the running services to see available ram. So i cleared data and and system data reflashed ftf stock rom in flashmode ofc, and extreme kernel in fastboot. I got a bootloop, so i tried all the different kernels that i could and i cant get into the menu for recovery. Can you please help me once again, i'll thank every post.
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For most part, you are doing it right, but, to solve problem with recovery, you should use "eraser" AFTER you change kernel
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Mushtaqs said:
Im wondering about my battery life, because it seems to be draining faster. Im using no frills cpu with the lupus kernel alowing me to overclock to 1.6 ghz. I set my higest on 1613 mhz and lowest on 249mhz using the smartassv2 governer. any idea to whats going on ?
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Naturaly, it will drain more battery BECAUSE it's overclocked.
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Mushtaqs said:
Man i was doing so well before, but im now stuck in a bootloop. I cant enter the recovery menu as the phone just keeps bootlooping. Also with lupus kernel the menu doesnt come up. I just erased the user data and system with ur zip from before and flashed aurora play with lupus v12.5 kernel It worked like everything else. i got more curious so i did the same thing erased user and system data then flashed gin2jellybean with the same kernel.( i followed ur intructions from before on how to flash roms n stuff) Everything worked again. I wanted a new kernel so i flashed extreme kernel r3. phone got stuck in a bootloop. So i erased user data and system data, then flashed and ftf stock rom and then flashed extreme kernel r3. everything was working. I went into titanium backup and uninstalled some system apps and accidently deleted the one that let you see the running services to see available ram. So i cleared data and and system data reflashed ftf stock rom in flashmode ofc, and extreme kernel in fastboot. I got a bootloop, so i tried all the different kernels that i could and i cant get into the menu for recovery. Can you please help me once again, i'll thank every post.
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I think you should repeat the fastboot process once again, so:
fastboot erase userdata
and fastboot erase system
then just flash the kernel you prefer.
I had exactly the same problem with my play bootlooping after flashing some kernels. and this solved the problem for me :victory:
sorry for my bad English, :crying:

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