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Brodit active car holder won't charge the S2

Hey guys,
I got my brodit active car holder now for a few days and it seems it doesn't supply enough juice to the S2 while in use :-(
While navigating with navigon, it even loses charge, though it's connected .... that's really disapointing, since brodit normally supplies quality products.
Anyone else got the brodit active holder with the same problems?
boba

Not got the Brodit, but I have the same problem when using CoPilot and charging via the USB cable attached to a car charger. It can keep the charge at current level with CoPilot on, but will only charge with CoPilot off.
Also noticed if SII has less than 50% charge, it won't charge at all with CoPilot on.
Taking a punt on one of these to see if it makes a difference:
http://www.buyincoins.com/details/d...-for-ipad-iphone-4g-ipod-2a-product-2748.html

Which holder do you have exactly? Can you make a photo?
Does it toggle car dock in the S2? You can see a steering wheel in notification bar.
ALexander

I was thinking exactly the same thing this lunchtime. I have the cigarete lighter active Brodit mount and - if i makes any difference - a 2004 Vauxhall Astra H. I as wondering if I would have to turn off the nice things [like satellite view, etc] on the phone for it to survive the journey. Not happy.

boba23 said:
Well I don't know the exact reason yet, but it seems the S2 doesn't accept enough juice from the charger,
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Is the S2 in USB AC Mode?
Take a look here: Einstellungen - Telefoninfo - Status
Yesterday I modified a Brodit active car holder from the good old htc HD2 to fit the S2. Now I have fast charging (AC) and Car-Mode.

I currently own some chargers. Not the original one, well the UK Version with no use in Austria.
A 1A HTC Charger with USB socket, a 450mA noname charger with USB socket and a no name car charger with micro usb.
The car charger and the HTC charger show charging(AC) whilst the noname 450mA charger shows charging(USB)...
It would be interesting to measure the exact mA taken by the phone...
ALexander

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ALexander

Hi all,
Okay, I've now tried four different chargers, and I've also had the phone replaced. Today, in a last attempt, I bought an official Samsung charger.
NONE of them work - even though the phone says "charging on AC" for all of them.
The only thing I haven't tried is a different car (which I'm going to do, once my neighbour gets home).
The one sensible suggestion I've read is that Samsung have screwed up somewhere in software and the phone can't draw enough juice.
Electronics is beyond my little brain, so I don't get why the GS2 charges from my netbook (even when it's only on battery) but won't charge in the car.
And I'm not talking when I'm using satnav. It won't charge at all. In fact (weirdly) it actually DISCHARGES much faster than it does if it's just sitting in my pocket.
I've logged this with my provider (Voda UK), because I refuse to get stuck with a useless phone for the next 18 months if this isn't sorted out. It's ludicrous. If I can't charge the phone in the car it's as good as useless to me.

UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly

Do you have any chsrger with a led?
If the led stays dark the cigarette lighgter of your car might need a new fuse.
Which car?
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Ive ordered one of these mounts and will report how it behaves in my 2008 Civic

barneypooch said:
UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
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You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.

eddablin said:
You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
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ROFL!! Genius!

Brodit mount arrived and looks great. Fit and design excellent and seems to charge as I would want.
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So what charger do you guys advice? Which charger does charge the phone, even while navigating with Navigon?

I got the Brodit active charger (BR512...), there isn't a problem with charging at all.
I think the issue you got is really car related. My guess:
a) your cigarette lighter port is poorly wired -> Measure voltage at the port with a voltmeter, it should be at least 12V DC (Edit: Even if it does there is still the possibility that your wiring is bad, showing 12V doesn't mean it can handle the current this charger needs)
b) your cigarette lighter port doesn't make a good contact to the brodit plug. Check for corrosion of the contacts, dust, dirt, etc. Some ports go bad after lots of plug in / out cycles.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about here, I'm pretty sure every car mechanic can fix your problem for a small amount of money
Edit: it's very possible this plug works with other chargers and phones and still fails with the S2 charger. The reason for this is the different ways chargers convert the car's 12V DC into 5V DC. Some might work down to 7V input, some already **** up at 11.8V

I have the same problem with my GSII trying to charge it with my 12V Ipod adapter...
I just arrive from a short travel with my Citroën Xsara and i almost got lost cose the phone discharged all the time while using IGO on the phone...
I don't think this is car related because there are so many people with different cars having this problem... so... Samsung wants me to buy a new car to be able to use their phone in travels?

Hi guys, just thought I'd try to clear up a few of things:
1. All phones can use more power than they can draw. Note that the more apps you use, the more juice you draw depending on their features.
2. Not all CLAs are the same. Most modern devices will need 2amps, but the majority of CLAs on the market are 1 - 1.2amp units.
3. Your device will stop charging if it reaches a certain temperature, without giving you any further indication that it is too hot. This is a common scenario if you've got a phone on the dash giving guidance, with the sun rays beating a back. And yes this does mean dedicated satnav devices have a greater operational temperature range than phones, usually a 15-20 degree difference (celcius).
4. If the CLA is being tripped out due to poor isolation (a lot of cars suffer from this) it will also stop charging.
5. In general terms, the lower the battery level of the device, the more juice it pulls. This is why you may find you ha email no problems getting a small charge when you start with a battery at 85%, but your phone dies if the battery is 50% or less.
Hope that helps.
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OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.

LazyPawn said:
OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Thats strange, in the first place i thought a faulty micro-usb or charger. But you got it replaced so can't be the problem.
I have a brodit with charger too, but i use it in a different way, meaning i can remove my holder and unplug it without unplugging my charger. ( near my holder i have a small connector that i can unplug).
What i did is cutting the cable from the charger and i did put a male usb port on it ( regular male usb port) and i have a Belkin charger with a usb port, this charger deliver 1A charging current and charge my phone even when i use my navigation. ( with bluetooth and gps on).
Your phones micro-usb seems to be fine too because it charge with other brands of chargers.
Your BMW delivers enough power i guess at your cigarette lighter plug, because it doesn't charge at the Toyota either and both not delivering enough power would be coincidence.
Anyway mine works perfect the way i did it and if i can remember it worked too with my original plug attached too. ( though the original one doesn't provide enough power sometimes to keep it charged while using navigation).
The only thing i can think of is that there is some stress-pressure on your connection between phone and holder connection and that one pin isn't connected properly, with the universal charger you only plug the micro-usb plug in your phone and the micro-usb plug can adjust freely to your phones micro-usb port.
Try to wiggle a bit with your phone when in the holder and see if the power comes on. Or try to connect a little device on your holders micro-usb port ( if you have something small that charge over micro-usb) and see if that works.

Car Charger

I bought the below car charger because the cheap generic one I had from an old phone couldn't keep up with the drain from the screen when running sat nav.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290627400358?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
This also doesn't work, it loses a percent of charge every 10 minutes or so, while I'm aware this isn't alot and I can probably get anywhere in the UK on a full charge, the fact is I want my phone to actually be charging while it's plugged in as I don't always have a full charge and I may need it topping up on my journey in case I don't have another charging opportunity for a while.
I cannot find another genuine samsung product that claims to be compatible with the s2 (indeed the above "genuine" charger doesn't appear on Samsung's website.) There is one on their site (P10CBE In-Car Charger) however it claims to be only compatible with the galaxy tab. While I know it simply has a USB socket for use with any data cable, I'm worried it may damage the phone if rated too high in amps (700mA to 2A is a big jump.)
So I have 3 questions...
1) Is the tab charger safe to use, and does anyone else have this and can confirm it can keep up with the screen permanently on with google navigation running.
2) Can anyone suggest another brand that they have experience with it definitely keeping up with the charge on a galaxy s2, running screen etc.
3) I quite like the look of the official Samsung car mount, can anyone confirm if the charger included with this can keep up etc (also if you know what ampage it's rated to as I can't find this info on the product data.)
Many thanks if you take the time to reply to this, a bit lengthy I know.
lancemate

Use siyah's kernel to increase the charging current, how high you can go is anyones guess. Stock kernel supply's 450mA when plugged into a usb port and 650mA when plugged into a charger, i set mine to 800mA for both and all seems fine so far.

I have used a motorola car charger and this has actually worked better that the original samsung car charger, charges faster, and has a cool blue light. since the micro-usb is non-proprietary, you have lots of options.

Using an Official charger, better than those cheap ones that fail to keep the battery topped up while using the phone as a satnav.

I have a Sony Ericsson Original AN401 Compact Car Charger and it charges when using satnav.

The main problem with the cheap adapters is the output current, it tends to be too low for GPS. Make sure it is regulated & 750mah or higher.

[Recommended] $5 Car charger Tech & Go!

Hey Everyone,
Surprisingly enough, I have been playing with a lot of car chargers and found a great one. I was talking through Walgreens and saw this one for $5, I turned it around and it charges at 1000mah, that's the same as an AC Adapter charger the phone comes with.
From my experience, most chargers that try and charge the Phone at 1000 mah, such as other car chargers and the iPhone block will either not do anything or charge as USB. This baby actually charges your phone as "AC" and therefore charges much faster than the 500 mah car chargers you often get at other stores.
This was found at WALGREENS, of all places! I recommend it for the AC charge ability versus the USB charge. Another plus is how small it is. It doesn't take up any room at all any barely pops up half an inch.
If anyone has any other ones they commend, feel free to do so.
Cons: It does not have a internal fuse like one of my other chargers, so if there is ever a surge of current, I don't know if the phone has anything built in to protect itself. This is charging at 1000 mah.

Pretty sure this phone will allow for 2.1 amp charging, the SII does, and if you buy any of the following ones, the phone will charge a whole lot faster for a few more dollars:
3.1A Dual USB Car Charger Adapter (White)
Wagan Twin USB/DC Socket Traveler's Adapter
(for the home) PowerGen Dual Port USB 2.1A 10W AC Travel Wall Charger
I've removed text on there for these being made for iPhones / iPads for a reason, but I'll go ahead and state that they'll work just the same for our devices as well....
I bought everything on that list, multiples of the 2nd and 3rd for multiple cars / rooms, so I know they're good quality stuff

KryptosXLayer2 said:
Pretty sure this phone will allow for 2.1 amp charging, the SII does, and if you buy any of the following ones, the phone will charge a whole lot faster for a few more dollars:
3.1A Dual USB Car Charger Adapter (White)
Wagan Twin USB/DC Socket Traveler's Adapter
(for the home) PowerGen Dual Port USB 2.1A 10W AC Travel Wall Charger
I've removed text on there for these being made for iPhones / iPads for a reason, but I'll go ahead and state that they'll work just the same for our devices as well....
I bought everything on that list, multiples of the 2nd and 3rd for multiple cars / rooms, so I know they're good quality stuff
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But is it recommended by the manufacturer to charge at those speeds? Do they offer any accessories that charge at those speeds naturally?
Because I don't want to charge above anything that Samsung recommends. I know the wall charger is rated at 1amp.
Reason being is that charging batteries faster and higher than recommended can damage or give them false charges.

Just thought I'd comment on this.
I have the 2.1 amp dual port charger from Tech$Go (Walgreens / E-Filliate Inc ) - I attached a picture.
I have a MyCharge power brick, and it all the sudden stopped holding a charge. Now it charges forever, and only supplies power out for a very very small amount of time. I usually charge it, and my phone, using the Tech&Go charger. When using that charger on my other cell phone, when plugging it in/taking plug out I noticed that the battery level was jumping around crazy.
I think it might be putting out too much and I think the higher voltage/amps caused a problem with my power brick.
Anyone have any clues about this I'd greatly appreciate it. I searched on Google and got this link so figured I'd ask even though I don't have this phone, I'm using a LG-Connect from MetroPCS

anyone have experience using car chargers with extended batteries?
Zerolemon 7000mAh battery
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i love this rom!

Old charger used on S3

Hi all,
I just found a 2 year old motorolla car charger with micro usb connection in my house. Anyone know if it would work with my S3?
Same thing with the equivalent AU charger of 850MAH ?
I would like your advice before connecting my phone.
thanks.

I have been using all of my old chargers. They all use the same power pins so it's fine. It's just if they have lower amperage than the original it will charge slower.

yeah should just charge slower. i believe stock S3 Charger is 1amp 5volts. i have been using my old ones from my GS1 which is .7amps volts. u can also scower the intertubes for essentially any charger with the 1amp 5volts output and you will be getting what the GS3 was designed for. might be worth the couple bucks to keep things "stock".
but yes it charges fine

Hmm...
BADtoBONE said:
Hi all,
I just found a 2 year old motorolla car charger with micro usb connection in my house. Anyone know if it would work with my S3?
Same thing with the equivalent AU charger of 850MAH ?
I would like your advice before connecting my phone.
thanks.
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I'm pretty sure it'll be good...been using some older chargers myself (have 2 cars, a minivan and my personal and my wife's is the 3rd...) so I have a mixture of them.
If you really wanna see, there's an app called Battery Widget or something like that, they show you the mAh or voltage that's charged at X time to and you can test each charger and see what's best. Some chargers are weaker (generally the USB ones)...but find that app (I've heard but never used/installed myself yet)...actually there should be a few of them free on the market.
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But just remember this at least, use the STOCK (original USB cable) whenever connecting to the computer...I don't know if it's Samsung or whoever/whatever, but it won't work 100% unless it's the stock one. Trust me on this.

As long as it can charge go with it.

brfield said:
It's just if they have lower amperage than the original it will charge slower.
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+1 on this. Takes longer when I'm using older charger or USB on a PC but it works.

i have no scientific basis to back this up...
but I never use non OEM charger that came with the phone. I find either other chargers don't supply the same juice, or even if they do, they still end up wrecking battery life.
my non scientific theory is that not only does it charge slower, it spends more time "fighting" the resistance to charge and somehow fails to charge the battery fully. i could be completely wrong but i stay away from using chargers that weren't meant for the phone/battery. it's worked well for me so far, whereas my friend who uses any random charger that "fits" has always had ****ty battery life with all her phones from nokia to blackberry to iphone

I'm using my HTC TYTN II charger with mini to micro as my second charger and it works.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy A51 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I noticed something strange. When charging with 'fast charging mode set to on', the phone charges (with original adapter and original cable) at the rate of 1% of battery for every 70 seconds (observed when the battery was at 55%). IF you TURN OFF FAST CHARGING MODE (reboot to make sure the setting is in place) the phone still charges at the rate of 1% every 70 seconds, no difference! In both of the cases, the charging current as showed by 'Accubattery' app was around 1100+ to max of 1250 miliAmperes.
NB: When charging from a USB port of a laptop (which delivers a max of 500 miliAmperes, the charging rate was seen to increase 1% for every 6 mins 15 secs), that's 9.9%/hour charging, meaning 10 hours to go from 0 to 100%. )

I'm actually very happy with the charging rate. I recently sold my S8 and bought the A51 as the S8 was a bit too small for me. As soon as I got the phone I converted it to wireless charging. I had also converted my wife's A50 to wireless charging. Surprisingly, my A51 charges (via wireless) at about the same speed as my S8 did (wireless). When I charged the S8 I would get a screen prompt that I was using FAST wireless charging. I don't get that flag with the A51 but it seems to charge just as fast.

OldBob65+ said:
I'm actually very happy with the charging rate. I recently sold my S8 and bought the A51 as the S8 was a bit too small for me. As soon as I got the phone I converted it to wireless charging. I had also converted my wife's A50 to wireless charging. Surprisingly, my A51 charges (via wireless) at about the same speed as my S8 did (wireless). When I charged the S8 I would get a screen prompt that I was using FAST wireless charging. I don't get that flag with the A51 but it seems to charge just as fast.
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How did you convert to wireless charging?. Kindly explain the process

It's quite easy and painless and costs less than $15. Go to Amazon and search for "Nillkin qi wireless charging receiver patch specially designed for Google Pixel XL/2 XL - Galaxy A71/A70/A60/A51/A50/A40/A30 - Xiaomi Redmi 8A/8/Note 7/8/8T/ 7Pro/K30/K20 - and all other non-Qi phones with type C charging port. " Be sure it is the long size. Just position it on your phone and put your case on. Leave just a tiny bit of slack so you can easily remove the USB-C plug if needed. There will be those who tell you it hurts the battery to charge wirelessly but I can tell you I've been converting our phones since my S3 and has never hurt the battery. I use a real Samsung wireless charger but my wife uses some generic brand and it works about as well. Just be sure to use a high quality power adapter and very high quality USB cable from that power adapter. Make the cable as short as possible.
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One other thing. My wife and I have TPU cases for our phones. I don't know if this will charge through big OtterBox cases but it does well with ours.

OldBob65+ said:
It's quite easy and painless and costs less than $15. Go to Amazon and search for "Nillkin qi wireless charging receiver patch specially designed for Google Pixel XL/2 XL - Galaxy A71/A70/A60/A51/A50/A40/A30 - Xiaomi Redmi 8A/8/Note 7/8/8T/ 7Pro/K30/K20 - and all other non-Qi phones with type C charging port. " Be sure it is the long size. Just position it on your phone and put your case on. Leave just a tiny bit of slack so you can easily remove the USB-C plug if needed. There will be those who tell you it hurts the battery to charge wirelessly but I can tell you I've been converting our phones since my S3 and has never hurt the battery. I use a real Samsung wireless charger but my wife uses some generic brand and it works about as well. Just be sure to use a high quality power adapter and very high quality USB cable from that power adapter. Make the cable as short as possible.
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One other thing. My wife and I have TPU cases for our phones. I don't know if this will charge through big OtterBox cases but it does well with ours.
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had the opposite experience with exact same brand/model. went to bed while phone was at 32% 6.5 hours later it was 39%. sent it right back to amazon for being garbage. maybe i got a bad one?

It's possible but more likely either the power adapter or cable. I've also found that sometimes the charging stand needs to be reset by unplugging for 30 seconds. Also could be the charging stand wasn't tall enough, there are so many variables. So far with both the A50 and A51 they are being charged exclusively by wireless from the beginning. Perhaps we've been fortunate.