Dual booting - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I think we should pitch in some donations or something to try to get a dev to create a dual/tri boot for this phone
.. If it's possible for our device.
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hrffd said:
I think we should pitch in some donations or something to try to get a dev to create a dual/tri boot for this phone
.. If it's possible for our device.
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As far as I know it should be possible. The international S2 has dual boot...
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It would be nice if bootmanager worked on our phone but the zImage kernel causes issues with the way they handle the boot from SD function
We are legion, for we are many.
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It would be nice if bootmanager worked on our phone but the zImage kernel causes issues with the way they handle the boot from SD function
We are legion, for we are many.
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So it would still be impossible?
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From what hes saying it may be possible, but a huge PITA to actually get off the ground. Just for curiosity, why dual boot anyway? (Phone wise) i do on my computer but for phone never really saw a reason. Just thought i would ask.

milky1112 said:
From what hes saying it may be possible, but a huge PITA to actually get off the ground. Just for curiosity, why dual boot anyway? (Phone wise) i do on my computer but for phone never really saw a reason. Just thought i would ask.
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Options from Stock to AOSP possibilities. I would much enjoy being able to switch back and forth, even if it's between CM10 and AOKP, without the hassle of having to backup, restore, etc. And from what I've heard of dual booting on Android devices, the apps stay up to date with eachother. Like data from apps, and text messages will carry over etc. But I may be wrong.

It would be nice to be able to have a stock image as well as your favorite rom so for GPS issues and prl/profile issues you could just boot back to stock real quick, update and then be on your way.

Dual booting is possible.
If the I9100 developers can do it, so can we... We just need a kernel that makes this possible.
Here is a link to the Siyah kernel which has dual boot capabilities.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23810024
And please, don't be an idiot... DO NOT FLASH THIS ON YOUR EPIC 4G TOUCH!!!
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Mattix, I googled and found that, that's what really made me think it's possible. But our kernel is way different, so I didn't take that just as a possibility.
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The hardware us the same except for the radio and nfc... We can dual boot with the right kernel.
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Chris is good with that. I wonder how we could persuade him to give it a shot.
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Either him or agat, and possibly get the Siyah dev to jump in. A combination of all 3 would make one awesome kernel.
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So who's made friends with one or more of the aforementioned devs and can get this suggested to them?

Someone slashed my tires so I won't be home anytime soon haha. I'll talk with them tonight.
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TriBeard said:
So who's made friends with one or more of the aforementioned devs and can get this suggested to them?
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I wouldn't say that I'm friends or anything, but chris and agat both know who I am on IRC.
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Reach out to Bubby. He had this working years ago
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^^ LMFAO!!! I don't think anyone in this community even cares to have Bubby develop anything for us. If his "dual boot" is anything like his CM7 kernel... Well, I would imagine it would be piss poor.
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Mattix724 said:
^^ LMFAO!!! I don't think anyone in this community even cares to have Bubby develop anything for us. If his "dual boot" is anything like his CM7 kernel... Well, I would imagine it would be piss poor.
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Let's not start this. Serious topic that would make a great addition to the phone.
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Dual boot would be a great addition... But it isn't coming from Bubby.
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hrffd said:
So it would still be impossible?
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Dual booting is not impossible, but the bootmanager app which allows booting numerous roms from sd would need an entirely separate app for our device due to the zImage needing to be implemented into a bootmanager specifically for devices with zImage kernels. Combining it into the existing version is impossible due to the boot from sd function needing
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[Q] MIUI

So does anyone here know if we will be getting MIUI for the epic touch? And if so do you know when we will be getting it? It was my favorite rom for my evo 4g and i would love to see it on this phone. Thanks
It will be ported eventually yes. We need aosp kernels.
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If you flash miui from the gs2 with our kernel it works great except for the phone... Camera works, wifi is easy to get working ect..
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mandie7312 said:
So does anyone here know if we will be getting MIUI for the epic touch? And if so do you know when we will be getting it? It was my favorite rom for my evo 4g and i would love to see it on this phone. Thanks
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We'll get it if or when a developer picks it up. If your anxious maybe pm some of the developers to see if they will pick up the project.... Just a idea.
Samsung Galaxy S II
stangdriverdoug said:
We'll get it if or when a developer picks it up. If your anxious maybe pm some of the developers to see if they will pick up the project.... Just a idea.
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I also heard someone will be working on it when they get the phone... But i forget who lol.
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I believe lithid-cm already started to work on it indirectly. By indirectly I mean they need a working AOSP kernel/build first. So that's what he is working on right now. I believe the kernel is giving them issues.
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I believe lithid-cm already started to work on it indirectly. By indirectly I mean they need a working AOSP kernel/build first. So that's what he is working on right now. I believe the kernel is giving them issues.
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It would be really nice of Cyanogen would put out the AOSP kernels along with the stock one because he works for Samsung now.
Just an idea
PS I love you Cyanogen (Steven)
Derp.......
deano0714 said:
Ok i just went on the miui irc and stiff already has it and i think the other guy named scott... Is getting it
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With stiff it shouldn't take long... I heard Jason from miui is getting the phone and miui going as well...
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craigbailey1986 said:
With stiff it shouldn't take long... I heard Jason from miui is getting the phone and miui going as well...
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Im pretty sure jason has it... But i dont think he develops, i think he just does videos... But i may be wrong.
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I might pick up porting too, once I get StarBurst how I want it.
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PhantomHacker said:
I might pick up porting too, once I get StarBurst how I want it.
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Awesome
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I like miui as well but I don't think I can go without 4g. Sprints 3g sucks a$$
What is the difference between the aosp kernel and the Samsung kernels, why does miui and cm7 need aosp kernels?
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skyward01 said:
What is the difference between the aosp kernel and the Samsung kernels, why does miui and cm7 need aosp kernels?
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Doesnt need it boots fine with tw kernel... But i think aosp kernels are more eficient..but im not 100% sure why
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deano0714 said:
Doesnt need it boots fine with tw kernel... But i think aosp kernels are more eficient..but im not 100% sure why
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Not sure why either but I asked lithid-cm the he said they NEED the AOSP kernel/source to work properly, before porting MIUI.
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Doesnt need it boots fine with tw kernel... But i think aosp kernels are more eficient..but im not 100% sure why
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It will usually boot with touchwiz kernel but most of the time 3g 4g touch screen and calls wont work that is why u need aosp kernel . The drivers need to load toake things work .....we have multiple teams working on it teamhacksung and cyanogen team ..... It will happen patience my little padawan....
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I rocked Miui on my OG EVO 4G almost exclusivly.
Having finally jumped ship to a stock phone (I rooted ;-)) there are some concerns with going back to miui:
1) NO 4G!!!
2) On Evo, there was no 720p recording with Video... I'd hope we can take advantage of our 1080p cameras!
3) DATA WAS SLOW
That's it... If those 3 things were fixed I'd be happier than a stuffed pig!!
MIUI PROS:
1) customizable like no other!
2) smooth
3) Clean UI
4) overall fun to use

wtf??

T-Mobile sgs2 has miui and cyanogenmod... what the ****? Where our roms??
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All I can say is patience... It is a little dis heartening I will say though because it took the Vibrant nearly a year to get a stable version of CM7 on it.... But Koush is working on the EpTouch so all I can say is its only a matter of time and patience.
Gsm vs cdma with a wimax radio
Stop complaining and start developing if u in a rush.
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Wimax and cdma are both wildcards. Tmobile and att are gsm, so it is a lot easier to port from the international version.
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I didnt think the Tmobile version had CM support due to the Tmobile version having a different CPU than the rest of the bunch???
Tmobiles GS2 doesn't have either. They may have device support from those teams but so do we.
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I didnt think they did.
AT&T's GS2 has both though. Wtf?!? Lol jk
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LOL, if we had a DEV from CM that had this as a personal device we would be rockin CM7 already. Being that we dont and all of our CM support is being done in spare time by one CM DEV at a time, it will take longer than usual. Rather than having that ICS ROM bounty we should pitch buy a CM DEV a device for his/her personal phone, lithid for example
cordell12 said:
LOL, if we had a DEV from CM that had this as a personal device we would be rockin CM7 already. Being that we dont and all of our CM support is being done in spare time by one CM DEV at a time, it will take longer than usual. Rather than having that ICS ROM bounty we should pitch buy a CM DEV a device for his/her personal phone, lithid for example
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I'd donate towards this.
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Me too.
Samsung Galaxy S II
I'd be in for that. Good idea
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......maybe start a new thread on it? Something a little more inviting than wtf.
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chrisbass said:
......maybe start a new thread on it? Something a little more inviting than wtf.
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Lol yeah might draw a little more views!
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I'd donate. I want miui fix

ICS source code available now

I http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/c0e01b4619a1455a
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_fiepb2Mc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=QQ_fiepb2Mc&v=QQ_fiepb2Mc&gl=US
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Lol beat me to it!
http://m.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-now-being-pushed-git-servers
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Oh my...
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And the race begins…
Sooner than I thought, to be honest. Everybody sit tight.
I was just about to post this also. YAY!!!!!! i saw this on Keyan google+
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Holy shatman!
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To the crapmobile!
Now the countdown begins. For this alone I'll root my phone
so happy about this!
Don't get too excited yet.. we still need someone to develop an aosp kernel for our phone. We dont even have one for gb yet so i think it will be a while. I'm syncing the code now. If I knew how to convert a kernel I would. Lol
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Saw this as well. I hope we can get someone to get us an AOSP Kernel. Without it it this doesn't help us.
Yeah, it will probably be a while before we see a beta or alpha rom. It will probably be January or longer before a stable ROM is available.
Better luck on the Nexus S 4G though, or maybe even the Evo phones since they have worker CM and AOSP kernals.
bubby says he has an aosp kernel, but he also said his laptop died
Clearr shock that baby to life!
hypersonicx said:
Yeah, it will probably be a while before we see a beta or alpha rom. It will probably be January or longer before a stable ROM is available.
Better luck on the Nexus S 4G though, or maybe even the Evo phones since they have worker CM and AOSP kernals.
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Ohh maybe I'll build it for my nexus s 4g
Does anyone know what converting a kernel to aosp entails? I'll give it a shot for sure. I'm guessing the first step is to unpack our boot.img but I don't know what else has to be done. I wish there was a guide somewhere that tells you how to get your kernel working with aosp
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graffixnyc said:
Ohh maybe I'll build it for my nexus s 4g
Does anyone know what converting a kernel to aosp entails? I'll give it a shot for sure. I'm guessing the first step is to unpack our boot.img but I don't know what else has to be done. I wish there was a guide somewhere that tells you how to get your kernel working with aosp
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Nothing. BLN maybe. Look at int'l gs2 aosp kernels.
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graffixnyc said:
Don't get too excited yet.. we still need someone to develop an aosp kernel for our phone. We dont even have one for gb yet so i think it will be a while. I'm syncing the code now. If I knew how to convert a kernel I would. Lol
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I think bubby posted in the pledge thread today he has a aosp kernel ready to go. Could be wrong but i swear i saw it haha
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Samsung E4GT rom

Just wondering if any devs have toyed with the idea of porting the Samsung E4GT rom to the Evo 4G, or is it even do able?
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wickedskills said:
Just wondering if any devs have toyed with the idea of porting the Samsung E4GT rom to the Evo 4G, or is it even do able?
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I can say that it probably wouldn't be that fun of an experience... The E4GT doesn't use a boot.img like the Evo does, it has ramdisk and zImage separate. Samsung modems and drivers would take some work. I believe it uses BML and not MTD.
Not saying it is impossible, but at the very least whoever took that up would have a huge challenge.

From a ns4g to s2

I've been around for a bit from the tmo dash to the touch pro to the evo and soon to the epic touch. I have a few questions which i hope some of.you can help me with. Does this have the same weak radios and horrible battery of the ns4g? And what's with all these build numbers fh this and that? What would changing the modem do? Is cwm still the most popular recovery? And finally, it has ics on it so will I be able to root?
I have been trying to read but I'm getting confused. I was able to only update the radios, rom and kernel now there are all these options.
Thanks in advance for any useful info
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aman1127 said:
I've been around for a bit from the tmo dash to the touch pro to the evo and soon to the epic touch. I have a few questions which i hope some of.you can help me with. Does this have the same weak radios and horrible battery of the ns4g? And what's with all these build numbers fh this and that? What would changing the modem do? Is cwm still the most popular recovery? And finally, it has ics on it so will I be able to root?
I have been trying to read but I'm getting confused. I was able to only update the radios, rom and kernel now there are all these options.
Thanks in advance for any useful info
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Yes to all of them the radios do suck. But u can root it and its easier than the evo
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sasquatchotragavaca said:
Yes to all of them the radios do suck. But u can root it and its easier than the evo
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I had to root the evo through adb shell. I was too impatient to wait for a one click solutuon. That was a pain and a process. I've read that the et4g is one click root so I'm happy
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aman1127 said:
I had to root the evo through adb shell. I was too impatient to wait for a one click solutuon. That was a pain and a process. I've read that the et4g is one click root so I'm happy
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Yes its odin one-click way better than evo
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I found my older evo 4g easier to root than my e4gt personally
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dmonger11b said:
I found my older evo 4g easier to root than my e4gt personally
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Yeah i think the older boot loaders r the same as e4gt but if u have latest bootloader on evo its alot more complicated
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Thanks for the replies. From reading I'm gathering that a modem is the same as a radio? And do I have to look at anything before I can just flash away (I mean in terms of being compatible). I hear these are easy to brick also...
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aman1127 said:
Thanks for the replies. From reading I'm gathering that a modem is the same as a radio? And do I have to look at anything before I can just flash away (I mean in terms of being compatible). I hear these are easy to brick also...
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Just look for the newest one download the .zip and flash through recovery. It all depends were u live radios r different for every phone a new modem might not work as good as a old one so just download a couple and which works better.
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I got this from a friend who is getting an iPhone. He just had his S2 replaced like a month ago so I get a new phone for cheap. Im holding out my upgrade for a quadcore phone. I refuse to go with the LG only because I dont think the developer or factory support will be there. This should make my wait more bearable with my huge leap from NS4g.
I have jelly bean right now with everything working ok (except the massive battery drain) on my NS4G. Anything close to that on this phone? How is the developer support? Im coming from a phone with ok support and maybe like 3 choices that are updated consistantly.
Yes all modems are compatible with any rom and we have cm10 and aokp versions of jellybean. The brick issues are much much less now that we developers have identified the problem and made safe recoveries. Don't flash anything in stock recovery.

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