Hello Folks,
Now a days we have a lot of methods to fix space lack in desire phone.
Which one is the best for you?
AD2SD?
INT2SD?
APP2SD?
LINK2SD?
Any other?
Whatever the ROM uses. They all do basically the same thing - move stuff to your Ext partition to free space on phone.
except INT2SD, it converts ur ext partition into internal memory (data partition, so yh pretty much the same) but only a few roms have it
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jmcclue said:
except INT2SD, it converts ur ext partition into internal memory (data partition, so yh pretty much the same) but only a few roms have it
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I'm trying to use INT2SD but its been hard to get this working.
INT2SD comes pre-installed in some roms. how r u trying to install it? or what rom r ya trying to flash?
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jmcclue said:
INT2SD comes pre-installed in some roms. how r u trying to install it? or what rom r ya trying to flash?
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I choice RunnyMod 7.02 thats came with INT2SD and AD2SDX, but both of them i'm not able to use it.
I hv CM7r2 HBOOT and it is recognized in Amarullz setup, also, i hv a 3GB SD Ext4 partition.
The main problem is, the script setup says that my device does not support both of them.
So, my question is, if INT2SD is better than others, I'll try to fix this, but if is pretty much the same, I wont try.
And the last not least, I cant post in dev forum, so cant explain my problem there!!!
Thanks
3gb ext partition is too big. 1gb - 1.5gb max is the recommended. maybe that is the problem
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3gb ext partition is too big. 1gb - 1.5gb max is the recommended
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I Just resize with Gparted and didnt work.
do you think my SD need to align? or Gparted does itself.
tks
never used gparted, always 4ext recovery and it does the job perfect
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You dont need 3gb ext4 partition. Make it 1 gb, it is more than sufficient.
I have used APPS2SD and INT2SD both. But i like INT2SD more as it doesn't slow down my memory card and it allows me to install more apps.:fingers-crossed:
Int2sd the best, cause all other methods lacks of memory after ~100 apps installed.
Now I have got Elk759 JB 0.37.1 with Int2SD-S/
vedmed said:
Int2sd the best, cause all other methods lacks of memory after ~100 apps installed.
Now I have got Elk759 JB 0.37.1 with Int2SD-S/
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u got elks JB with INT2SD-S?? How the hell did u manage that?
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i felt that a2sd was faster than int2sd. it might be because i have a slow sd card. a2sd can be set to leave some parts on the internal memory keeping those parts faster
From what I understand (and while not very new to this, I am not an expert or a developer) there are three partitions that are restricted inside the internal ROM: apps, data, cache
People seem to agree that moving data to sd slows down the phone, so they tend to keep it in the internal memory. So the main difference between the scripts is if the move the data to sd or not. I think with most modern ones, this is an option and can be enabled or disabled.
As others said, int2sd or int2ext follows a different approach, but I think the principles and end result are the same.
I like the roms that apart from installing the script that runs at startup, they provide the control script that you can run from the terminal and check the status or enable/disable features after installing it.
vmpsr said:
there are three partitions that are restricted inside the internal ROM: apps, data, cache
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/system
/data
/cache
vmpsr said:
People seem to agree that moving data to sd slows down the phone, so they tend to keep it in the internal memory. So the main difference between the scripts is if the move the data to sd or not. I think with most modern ones, this is an option and can be enabled or disabled.
As others said, int2sd or int2ext follows a different approach, but I think the principles and end result are the same.
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Moving dalvik cache to sd slows the phone down, everything else can be moved.
I prefer a2sd.
Depends on ROM, mostly
Most ROM devs already indicate a perference for a2sd scripts. If I recall correctly, the first AOKP builds needed m2sd, PA prefers INT2EXT and most GB ROMs used a2sd.
As for speed, try to keep app data on internal memory. Anything else can be moved. Dalvik-cache is mostly taking up half of the internal memory, so an excellent candidate to move.
darkcompanion said:
Most ROM devs already indicate a perference for a2sd scripts. If I recall correctly, the first AOKP builds needed m2sd, PA prefers INT2EXT and most GB ROMs used a2sd.
As for speed, try to keep app data on internal memory. Anything else can be moved. Dalvik-cache is mostly taking up half of the internal memory, so an excellent candidate to move.
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Do you suggest to keep Dalvik-cache on internal memory or SD ?
vittoriop77 said:
Do you suggest to keep Dalvik-cache on internal memory or SD ?
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Move dalvik and app on external, keep data on internal.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Move dalvik and app on external, keep data on internal.
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Am using Leedroid App2SD+ ROM and have 1gb ext with 756MB free, i have lots of apps installed but now my phone is showing low memory 15MB, so I have moved alot of the apps to SD card to try free up abit, but its not freeing up phone memory its still staying at 15MB.
Why wont all apps just use the ext? how do I get free phone memory back up again.
All help welcome thanks
All apps have to use internal /data/data folder to store libraries etc. So if you need more storage read about data2sd.
Because if you have A2SD+, then Move to SD in the application manager has no effect (apps are already on the SD Card).
Try running a cache cleaner, maybe too much cache. Possibly a2sd+ is not working properly?
I never had that much low space on LeeDroid when I was using it (had 55 apps of my own installed).
check the leedroid topic?
I read something about a memoryleak in flash what could cause the problem.
You can also move dalvik-cache to sd to free about 40MB internal memory.
Simply download terminal emulator from market, and then put su and a2sd cachesd or cachesdreset (it removes old dalvik cache from internal memory) commands.
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Because if you have A2SD+, then Move to SD in the application manager has no effect
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Oh yeah it does. It ruins everything you were supposed to get with a2sd+.
decat said:
check the leedroid topic?
I read something about a memoryleak in flash what could cause the problem.
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Read better next time. It was regarding random access memory and not the internal storage memory.
Bartyzel said:
You can also move dalvik-cache to sd to free about 40MB internal memory.
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He has a2sd+ with Leedroid. a2sd+==dalvik on the ext.
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Thanks guys for reply's.
I have no cache to clear, so it has to be data, what the best way on doing datatoSD?
I thought the rom has to support it, can I just install somethink to make this happen.
thanks again
shankly1985 said:
Thanks guys for reply's.
I have no cache to clear, so it has to be data, what the best way on doing datatoSD?
I thought the rom has to support it, can I just install somethink to make this happen.
thanks again
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Here you have zip instalation scripts and some tutorial how to manage that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10692249&postcount=1299
Remember that you will lost your apps! Backup them by Titanium Backup (I don't think that backup and recovery by nandroid it is best solution if you are messing with symlinks and /data partition).
Bartyzel said:
Here you have zip instalation scripts and some tutorial how to manage that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10692249&postcount=1299
Remember that you will lost your apps! Backup them by Titanium Backup (I don't think that backup and recovery by nandroid it is best solution if you are messing with symlinks and /data partition).
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I have made my mind up am changing rom, just ordered 16gb class 4 PNY sd card.
going to use starburst ROM, if Leedroid end up fully supporting data2sd ill go back because I love that ROM
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.......if Leedroid end up fully supporting data2sd ill go back because I love that ROM
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I never had any issues like yours when I used Lee droid A2SD and had installed a lot of apps. Just make sure that you have not moved the apps in the app manager to the SDCard as this only movers them out of the Ext partition and in to the FAT32 partition.
I would give Leedroid another shot with your new SDCard.
Sent with Desire.
angusc said:
I never had any issues like yours when I used Lee droid A2SD and had installed a lot of apps. Just make sure that you have not moved the apps in the app manager to the SDCard as this only movers them out of the Ext partition and in to the FAT32 partition.
I would give Leedroid another shot with your new SDCard.
Sent with Desire.
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I think I have just filled it lol got 75 apps but most of them are games big files, ill give starburst a go liking the sound of this ROM and if its true I should never fill the memory, if it not good ill go back to leedroid but start fresh format everythink.
With my old partition I did make it on windows like, so maybe thats whats happened, I am going to use gparted next time.
Hi -
I'm getting ready to install CM7 onto my phone, but I'm needing some guidance on getting more storage space out of it. I was going to opt for the App2SD_+ script, but reading through the forums, a lot of people seem to be recommending S-Off'ing the device and installing CM7 partition tables? How is this better? What are the steps? What does S-Off allow you to do that App2SD doesn't. Is this safe and fully tested?
Thanks.
With CM7 Layout you will have plenty of space for apps in internal storage (300mbs aprox). Using this layout all your apps will run in internal storage which in theory is faster than your SD Card, getting more perfomance. However with this layout you can't flash radios using recovery due to a small cache partition, and some ROM's will not fit in new layout, beacuse you will only have 130mb for System.
If you want to do it, go to http://alpharev.nl. It's fully tested and safe. The only risky part is flashing new HBOOT when you S-OFF.
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With CM7 Layout you will have plenty of space for apps in internal storage (300mbs aprox). Using this layout all your apps will run in internal storage which in theory is faster than your SD Card, getting more perfomance. However with this layout you can't flash radios using recovery due to a small cache partition, and some ROM's will not fit in new layout, beacuse you will only have 130mb for System.
If you want to do it, go to http://alpharev.nl. It's fully tested and safe. The only risky part is flashing new HBOOT when you S-OFF.
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So if I understood correctly, using CM7 partition tables simply gives you more space on your internal memory (as opposed to making the system think a segment of the SD card is 'internal memory'), and by such, the apps you install on your phone are faster, and the method is overall more safer (less likelihood of corrupting SD card etc.)
What if I wanted to have more than 300mb of internal storage to install apps (say 1 GB)? is App2Sd the best method for me?
So if I understood correctly, using CM7 partition tables simply gives you more space on your internal memory (as opposed to making the system think a segment of the SD card is 'internal memory'), and by such, the apps you install on your phone are faster, and the method is overall more safer (less likelihood of corrupting SD card etc.)
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Yep, that's the idea.
What if I wanted to have more than 300mb of internal storage to install apps (say 1 GB)? is App2Sd the best method for me?
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Yes, if you want more space, App2SD is the best for you.
Sorry for my bad english
Aragornhr said:
Yep, that's the idea.
Yes, if you want more space, App2SD is the best for you.
Sorry for my bad english
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Thanks.
Can someone else confirm the 300mb storage limit for the CM7 partition tables?
Aragornhr said:
Yep, that's the idea.
Yes, if you want more space, App2SD is the best for you.
Sorry for my bad english
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So my question would be if there is a way to get app2sd+ (or app2sdext) working on CM7?
greetz
chris
Yes, check Cyanogen Mod post At the bottom of first post.
Also, you can flash Darktremor A2SD afterflashing CM7 (without boot). After first boot, use connectBot, terminal emulator or simply ADB shell, a type
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a2sd reinstall
Glad i found this post as i was just asking this in another forum. I'm using the stable CM7 and was looking for the best option between:
S2E for CM7 (easy to use)
Darktremors Script (used it on Gingervillain and pretty easy to use)
Custom MTD Partitions (as per your post, also heard it's faster and more stable)
Still researching but any opinions would be appreciated.
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Thanks.
Can someone else confirm the 300mb storage limit for the CM7 partition tables?
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CyanogenMod7 gives 302MB of internal memory after clean install.
CM7 partition table is required.
looking to install over 150 apps, any ROM recommendations?
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You can do it with pretty much every ROM which supports cm7r2 hboot + a2sd solution. (apps + dalvik on SD)
Or basically any ROM with int2ext+ though it has some impact on performance.
k3lcior said:
You can do it with pretty much every ROM which supports cm7r2 hboot + a2sd solution. (apps + dalvik on SD)
Or basically any ROM with int2ext+ though it has some impact on performance.
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@k3lcior: I do not understand the difference between a2sd (apps + dalvik) and int2ext+. They both would free up the same amount of space I guess. Is the diff in internal implementation? Is there a diff in performance?
A2sd + dalvik2sd only moves apps and dalvik cache to sd-ext, leaving data on internal, therefore being faster.
Int2sd+ mounts sd-ext as /data, and moves all data to sd, being slower, depending on your sd-card. Usually class 4 or above cards recommended here.
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A2sd + dalvik2sd only moves apps and dalvik cache to sd-ext, leaving data on internal, therefore being faster.
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It is dalvik cache that impacts performance. Whether you leave app-data on internal or no matters not.
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Yea...but still, int2sd+ is slower.
Almost every rom can do that. Latest rom based on oxygen like Nikez have all on ext except data, so you have 2 GB internal memory if proper pre-configured, no need to move anything to SD just install them and don`t touch. how to do that:
To enable Apps2Sdext and/or Data2SdExt visit Settings|Applications|Development. ((((My suggestion is don`t enable Data2SdExt! that can be slow)))
To set the default installation partition go to Settings|Applications. (set SD-EXT) If you already installed some soft just wait on next boot until phone move them to ext...
To move applications from sd-ext|sdcard|internal Settings|Applications|Manage Applications.
There is no Dalvik2SdExt because .dex will follow the location of the apk, so if you install an application on sd-ext the dex will be on sd-ext, the same applys for internal or sdcard.
Do not use A2sd scripts.
and yes widgets, launchers and all can be installed to SDEXT....
Than use some app to disable programs you don`t want to start on boot or you memory will be low after you install 100+ apps..
When you do all that you can have easy 250+ apps with no memory lag in your phone. Just don`t install too many resident background programs like FB, Whatsup Viber etc, than your battery will be drained in ~24 hours... Install just what you need, but games you can install like unlimited
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Latest rom based on oxygen like Nikez
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Nikez's JB rom is not based on Oxygen. The only thing Oxygen and that rom have in common is that they are both made on a computer.
ok. got it.. What is int2ext+ then? I did get a class 10 card to try these things out, but various threads give differing opinions about what is best.
Is there a consensus?
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A2sd + dalvik2sd only moves apps and dalvik cache to sd-ext, leaving data on internal, therefore being faster.
Int2sd+ mounts sd-ext as /data, and moves all data to sd, being slower, depending on your sd-card. Usually class 4 or above cards recommended here.
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Class 2-2mb/s *<Sequential>* write speed
Class 4-4mb/s
And soo on
Class 10-10mb/s
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Sequential write speed.
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What I meant is.. is there consensus on whether to use a2sd, int2sd+, int2ext+, etc... There seem to be so many ways to save space.
Every script does a different thing. It depends on how much space you need.
Roms from Droidzone have many internal memory!
Hi Guys, this is for those running on HTC Desire and want to upgrade to JB 4.2.2
Those who are on the HTC Desire will surely know that the internal memory sucks. Question is how to increase. I used to used Data2SD and it worked well with CM7, when I finally upgraded to CM10.1 Data2Sd did not work, so I tried many versions and finally got it to work. Here are the steps.
1. Do a clean/factory
2. Wipe/ Cache/Dalvik
3. Recreate partition table. (Recommended 1.5GB) to be your internal memory. I tested higher than this and phone started to go bonkers!
4. Create partition in EXT4 (Recommended)
5. Flash ROM ( I used VJ's 4.2.2) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070704 (This works the BEST and the most stable to date for HTC Desire)
6. Install from ZIP - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124 (This is where the magic happens) It will trick your phone into thinking you have an internal memory of 1.5GB - DOWNLOAD INT2EXTV2+ (works like a charm)
7. Reboot and let your phone stabilize...!
8. Enjoy!....
Do give a shout out to those developers who did a fantastic job with the development!:highfive:
Cheers!
Why not use the built in a2sd script that comes with the rom? All you got to do is run: su, a2sd install, y, n, y from the terminal emulator and your done.
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Chromium_ said:
Why not use the built in a2sd script that comes with the rom? All you got to do is run: su, a2sd install, y, n, y from the terminal emulator and your done.
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Actually tried as2d but some how it didn't seem to work for me. Are you on a desire?
Mate you are a genius. Ive had my desire for 4 years and the small internal storage has been a constant annoyance. Just done this and the 1.5GB is working great!! So thanks heaps I think I will keep my desire for another 4 years now, works perfect
raston_89 said:
Mate you are a genius. Ive had my desire for 4 years and the small internal storage has been a constant annoyance. Just done this and the 1.5GB is working great!! So thanks heaps I think I will keep my desire for another 4 years now, works perfect
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Although it is running much slower... Might be my SD class?
nixlee said:
Hi Guys, this is for those running on HTC Desire and want to upgrade to JB 4.2.2
Those who are on the HTC Desire will surely know that the internal memory sucks. Question is how to increase. I used to used Data2SD and it worked well with CM7, when I finally upgraded to CM10.1 Data2Sd did not work, so I tried many versions and finally got it to work. Here are the steps.
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Data2SD was always risky depending on which ROM or version of the script. I think only Droidzone's Sense ROM was the only one to have it stable enough.
CM7 worked better with S-OFF, cm7r2 hboot and a simple A2SD script like S2E or darktremor to moves apps and dalvik to sd-ext
With CM10.1, you could have also used S2E app to move apps and dalvik
2. Wipe/ Cache/Dalvik
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Waste of time. Don't need to do this. A factory data reset and fresh ROM install will wipe this already.
3. Recreate partition table. (Recommended 1.5GB) to be your internal memory. I tested higher than this and phone started to go bonkers!
4. Create partition in EXT4 (Recommended)
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People have reported the maximum successful is around 2GB, although 'recommended' size depends on how many apps the user wants to install, and is as high as the sdcard can spare.
Partition should be created with 4EXT recovery or gparted, not CWM or minitool
5. Flash ROM ( I used VJ's 4.2.2) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070704 (This works the BEST and the most stable to date for HTC Desire)
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It's the 'BEST and most stable' for you, not necessarily what's best for others. Let the user explore, experiment and decide for themselves...
6. Install from ZIP - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124 (This is where the magic happens) It will trick your phone into thinking you have an internal memory of 1.5GB - DOWNLOAD INT2EXTV2+ (works like a charm)
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As above, most ROMs either have their own A2SD scripts built in or you need to activate it. Other scripts merely replicate exactly the same thing, they already trick apps to sd-ext, but some like int2ext mount the sd-ext as internal.
nixlee said:
Actually tried as2d but some how it didn't seem to work for me. Are you on a desire?
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It likely did work, but you just expected your internal memory to look like it had increased ('internal + sd-ext'), when it was probably being used as you intended.
With A2SD you just keep your apps on 'internal', it tricks the apps and dalvik to sd-ext. It doesn't really matter if your internal memory doesn't appear to increase, as long as the partition is actually being used. You could have checked with another app like DiskUsage. More info here
Remember it doesn't matter which magic script you flash, none of them actually physically change the sizes of any of your internal memory or sd-ext partitions. They remain exactly the same size as when you created them.
All the script does it tell the ROM which bits of the app to move where. Admittedly, some scripts 'look' better if your internal memory appears to go up..
All you need to do is understand how all your partitions are being used depending on which script you flash. In simplified terms, with apps you have 3 main elements, the app apk, the davik and the app data. Most scripts will move the app apk and dalvik to sd-ext, and keep app data on your actual nand internal memory for speed and stability.
To optimise your app space on the Desire, there are 3 main requirements:
- S-OFF with optimal hboot for the ROM depending on it's /system size, e.g. cm7r2 hboot for CM7 ROM
- Correctly partitioned sdcard
- Compatible A2SD script
Hi guys..
Hope someone will be so nice to help me..
So..I have this desire and it was running with the supernova rom. Problem is it gives me a annoying issue that i didn't manage to solve...not even reset it nor reflashing the rom. It always comes out again..
I decided to try some other roms...and in the last few days i flashed so many, but i never managed to make one to see the ext* partition...at second boot it always shows only some MB as internal memory.. I tried to do it on any way...formatting sd withing the recovery, from pc, flashing alignment..nothing..
Now i'm asking...do i have to have or to do anything special before flashing one of those roms? Why the supernova works with no problem and all the other never?
Thank you in advance
How did u partition ur sdcard?
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
You should partition your sd card as above, no alignment or anything needed as gparted or 4EXT make properly aligned partitions.
Depending on the ROM, you may still not 'see' the ext partition i.e. you won't see "internal + ext" as your reported internal memory like supernova, but your apps still go to sd-ext. Most of the time you just have to keep your apps on internal (i.e. don't 'move to SD'), which tricks the apps to sd-ext.
Some roms require you activate A2SD via terminal commands, others have built in scripts, see each rom thread for details. Make sure you're also on the right hboot (requires s-off) to maximise actual internal memory /data).
A good way to check is to use an app like 'Diskusage' to browse all your partitions. As long as you're sd-ext is filling up, it's working
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How did u partition ur sdcard?
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
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I tried every possible way...as i told.. From recovery and from pc...
Titanium backup actually sees the ext partition...but..when i install the app...after a while internal memory gets full...so..
I don't know...i'm..disappointed and frustrated... Don't get why only tha supernova works as it should without any problem...
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You should partition your sd card as above, no alignment or anything needed as gparted or 4EXT make properly aligned partitions.
Depending on the ROM, you may still not 'see' the ext partition i.e. you won't see "internal + ext" as your reported internal memory like supernova, but your apps still go to sd-ext. Most of the time you just have to keep your apps on internal (i.e. don't 'move to SD'), which tricks the apps to sd-ext.
Some roms require you activate A2SD via terminal commands, others have built in scripts, see each rom thread for details. Make sure you're also on the right hboot (requires s-off) to maximise actual internal memory /data).
A good way to check is to use an app like 'Diskusage' to browse all your partitions. As long as you're sd-ext is filling up, it's working
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Thank you..i will try...
Again..just tried with another one...and...as much as i put back my apps...internal memory gets full...
I don't know what rom is the right one..too many..and too complicated chosing the right one...
I just wish i could have sense and the working ext partition...
Cell is rooted and s-off... Hboot..dunno....it says 0.93.001
Thanks for the answers..
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Thank you..i will try...
Again..just tried with another one...and...as much as i put back my apps...internal memory gets full...
I don't know what rom is the right one..too many..and too complicated chosing the right one...
I just wish i could have sense and the working ext partition...
Cell is rooted and s-off... Hboot..dunno....it says 0.93.001
Thanks for the answers..
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How many apps do you have? over 50?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
How many apps do you have? over 50?
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Yeap...last time i tried to put back apps from titanium backup it told 81...i wasn't putting back them all..but surely more than 50
darkchild_74 said:
Yeap...last time i tried to put back apps from titanium backup it told 81...i wasn't putting back them all..but surely more than 50
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What rom did you try, except supernova?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
What rom did you try, except supernova?
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Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
darkchild_74 said:
Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
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Ok. Now let me explain what happens.
Supernova has a script that moves data/data to sd-ext. Data/data is the folder that occupies most of the data partition. It's the application data itself.
The other ROMs leave data/data on the internal memory, for performance reasons, and move other stuffs, like data/app, or dalvik cache to sd-ext.
You have many apps, so only moving dalvik cache and data/app isn't enough. You should be using ROMs that use INT2EXT or INT2SD scripts, like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961URL
Or, use the INT2EXT4 script from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
darkchild_74 said:
Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
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So you partitioned using 4EXT or gparted? (NOT minitool or clockworkmod recovery as recommended?) If not then backup your sd card and repartition, so we know that it's definitely properly done.
Before you reinstall all your apps in one go, just restore or install one. Then like I said, install 'Diskusage' as well, and try to find where this app has been installed to. If it's on sd-ext, then it's working, and if it's on /data, then it's not.
Depending on the ROM, some stuff will still get stored on the /data (internal memory) partition. So there is always an upper limit to how many apps you can install. Most of the time, app data gets saved on internal. Sometimes dalvik-cache also gets stored there, but you may be able to move it to ext.
Regardless of which ROM or A2SD method or other script, the first step is to work out and understand what is being stored where, hence why I keep recommending 'Diskusage'
Also you are still on stock hboot, which has a very low /data (internal memory) partition, only 147MB. Some ROMs are better on other hboots before you flash them as they have a smaller /system size, and thus a larger /data partition. For instance, many ROMs fit on cm7r2 hboot, with a larger 287MB /data partition which fills up a lot slower. If you decide on a ROM, all of them should say which hboot is best for it, you should download them from alpharev.nl, and flash them via fastboot, guide here.
Thank you guys...so much.. SItuation is more clear now...
So..if i use that Rom with INT2EXT it should work like supernova and it would use the exp partition instead of the data partition..and it could be ok... I got performances would be worse, but again...i was already running a rom with same script..and it was ok... Would i get again that issue about cell reloading the system now and then...or it's caused by the system using the sd instead of the internal memory as data partition?
Again...i think ext partition is ok...i tried to check it...and...the system uses it.. THe problem is that with so many apps...internal memory gets full anyway...so..i have to find another solution...
I checked..and i always read that it was ok with stock hboot....i'm not such an expert...but since i never touched it..i thought it was stock... As i told, i rooted it..and turn it s-off...
I know the bad things about this cell is the low memory space, i just wanted to use it 'cause for the rest isn't bad...and even changing the internal partition...will make it better...but...dunno if it will worth the...risk..?? I
I will think about it.. Guess i can even give up on some apps...and put there only the apps i really need...it won't be a problem...
Thanks again to both
Really appreciated
darkchild_74 said:
Thank you guys...so much.. SItuation is more clear now...
So..if i use that Rom with INT2EXT it should work like supernova and it would use the exp partition instead of the data partition..and it could be ok... I got performances would be worse, but again...i was already running a rom with same script..and it was ok... Would i get again that issue about cell reloading the system now and then...or it's caused by the system using the sd instead of the internal memory as data partition?
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Glad it's starting to make sense. Yes that script should work for a lot of apps. Don't know about the "reloading system" issue, but your main goal is space for apps.
Again...i think ext partition is ok...i tried to check it...and...the system uses it.. THe problem is that with so many apps...internal memory gets full anyway...so..i have to find another solution...
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It's always best if it is created using gparted or 4EXT recovery, they are the recommended methods by far.
I checked..and i always read that it was ok with stock hboot....i'm not such an expert...but since i never touched it..i thought it was stock... As i told, i rooted it..and turn it s-off...
I know the bad things about this cell is the low memory space, i just wanted to use it 'cause for the rest isn't bad...and even changing the internal partition...will make it better...but...dunno if it will worth the...risk..?? I
I will think about it.. Guess i can even give up on some apps...and put there only the apps i really need...it won't be a problem...
Thanks again to both
Really appreciated
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Yes, you are still on stock hboot. Once you understand why you may want to change hboot, it's worth the small 'risk', because that way you do actually get more internal memory . I believe on some of the ROMs you tried you simply ran out of memory faster because you didn't change hboot.
As for which hboot you use, it is entirely dependent on the ROM, you have to search this yourself. I would recommend a ROM with at least cm7r2 hboot, and a int2ext script if possible.
(And I'll keep recommend installing 'diskusage' until you try it and understand how and where all your memory is used)
Just to let you know i managed to change the hboot with proper one...partitioned the sd again via 4ext recovery..installed the right rom and it shows me the ext4 partiiom as internal memory..
Now just have to test it and see if i will get the same problem i was having with supernova, and if it works properly..
Thank you so much to both for the help...really appreciated...