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I just read the article here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-tethering-if-you-ever-had-it-to-begin-with/
I am on tmobile prepaid plan and use the tether once in a while. But I absolutely would not pay extra to pay for tethering my own data that I already paid for.
it shouldn't unless you decide to install their version of ics
I'm going to quote my own G+ post on these one:
All phones that T-Mobile has released since the Amaze 4G and the Galaxy S II have had a separate APN built in to their tethering that automatically flags your device as tethering. This includes the new LG MyTouch devices, the HTC Radar, etc. ALL phones released for the last 6 months. This has been the status quo for a long time, and for some reason everyone is throwing a fit now that the new software for the Sensation is doing exactly the same thing that all of these other phones have been doing since they were released.
Also, several of these articles state that T-Mobile is using some kind of sinister monitoring methods on your data traffic in order to determine that you are tethering. This is not true. It is being done in a very similar way to how I understand the iPhone has reported tethering to carriers for a long time, by using a completely separate tethering APN instead of the customary data APN typically used for T-Mobile handsets. This is why on some newer devices if you enabled tethering and then tried to browse on your handset it would either fail or send you to a upsell that would ask you to purchase tethering, because it is flagged as completely different traffic.
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This is a software change handled on each device. It has little to do with the network outside of the network authorizing the tethering APN from the newer handsets when the tethering option has been enabled. It is possible that T-Mobile may be passively monitoring user agent strings to 'detect' tethering, however, this is a very unreliable method for them to use as using the desktop user agent option in your browser would trigger that. AT&T appears to do this, but to my knowledge, T-Mobile does not. At least not presently. However, some users have reported they are being given the tethering upsell when using desktop user agents, so I could easily be wrong.
Personally, I don't believe that this is the correct thing for carriers to do, as long as you aren't going over you data limit. I believe that you should be able to use your data limit how you see fit, whether the traffic is coming from your phone or through tethering. For me, this kind of nonsense is exactly the same as ISPs using QOS to throttle bandwidth for competing services, such as, theoretically, if Comcast were to throttle Netflix traffic. Unfortunately, my voice alone isn't going to change the status quo, and carriers in the US have decided that charging for tethering is the new way to make a profit.
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No. This will not affect the GN in any way, nor is this a new development. This policy for new devices / software for T-Mobile phones has been in place for around for 6 months and is a software 'feature'. Also, that article is poorly written and researched in general, as well as the horde of other bad articles in the past couple of days over this so-called 'revelation'.
lettcco said:
I just read the article here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-tethering-if-you-ever-had-it-to-begin-with/
I am on tmobile prepaid plan and use the tether once in a while. But I absolutely would not pay extra to pay for tethering my own data that I already paid for.
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The only reason they can block it on their own devices is because they control the final software. T-Mobile doesn't control the software on the Galaxy Nexus.
That being said, T-Mobile attempts to "block" tethering on unlocked/unbranded devices by sniffing UAstring of your browser and redirecting you to their tethering upsell page if they notice you're on a desktop browser (they're assuming you're tethered to a desktop). I'm going to save myself some time and not elaborate on this. It's how they do it and it's all over the internet in XDA and other places.
Its a horrible policy that many people have been fighting with for a long time now. Not only does it not work stopping any moderately sophisticated user on their desktop (because spoofing is SO easy), but it inadvertently "blocks" anyone trying to request desktop sites on their phones. Many browsers (especially Chrome Beta for Android) by default browse in desktop mode (or let you easily request desktop sites), and get redirected inadvertently.
Long story short, the UAstring sniffing method is starting to redirect Chrome Beta for Android users (including myself), as it has nearly an identical UAstring to desktop Chrome. They're currently "working to resolve this issue" which may mean a change in the way they try to detect tethering. More than likely they'll keep doing it they way they are and will come up with a workaround for Chrome for Android. Either way they have to figure it out, as they're selling ICS 4.0 devices that use Chrome for Android now.
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cade80 said:
it shouldn't unless you decide to install their version of ics
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T-Mobile doesn't have a "version" of ICS. Especially not for the GNex
Thanks all for the insightful comments.
Same of custom GB breads, or any custom on phones in general. Tethered on my G2x all the time on CM7 with no problems at all.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco on Tapatalk 2
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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The only reason they can block it on their own devices is because they control the final software. T-Mobile doesn't control the software on the Galaxy Nexus.
That being said, T-Mobile attempts to "block" tethering on unlocked/unbranded devices by sniffing UAstring of your browser and redirecting you to their tethering upsell page if they notice you're on a desktop browser (they're assuming you're tethered to a desktop). I'm going to save myself some time and not elaborate on this. It's how they do it and it's all over the internet in XDA and other places.
Its a horrible policy that many people have been fighting with for a long time now. Not only does it not work stopping any moderately sophisticated user on their desktop (because spoofing is SO easy), but it inadvertently "blocks" anyone trying to request desktop sites on their phones. Many browsers (especially Chrome Beta for Android) by default browse in desktop mode (or let you easily request desktop sites), and get redirected inadvertently.
Long story short, the UAstring sniffing method is starting to redirect Chrome Beta for Android users (including myself), as it has nearly an identical UAstring to desktop Chrome. They're currently "working to resolve this issue" which may mean a change in the way they try to detect tethering. More than likely they'll keep doing it they way they are and will come up with a workaround for Chrome for Android. Either way they have to figure it out, as they're selling ICS 4.0 devices that use Chrome for Android now.
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T-Mobile doesn't have a "version" of ICS. Especially not for the GNex
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overriding the user agent in chrome doesn't seem to help. strange.
i was tethering for about an hour just now and the redirect page just popped up.
I ran into the same problem today. After coming really close to paying the $12/month to use the data I'm already paying for, I decided to come here and ask for help. I got 2 solutions.
1. Change the user agent for my browser. Once I did this it was surfing as usual with the built in tethering app. Only problem is Netflix isn't supported by android2.2 browser.
2. PDA net, I read somewhere that a it hides what type of traffic. It seems to work. No restrictions, no redirects.
I'm going to stick with the second alternative because it behaves the way I'm used to.
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overriding the user agent in chrome doesn't seem to help. strange.
i was tethering for about an hour just now and the redirect page just popped up.
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yeah once they've flagged you it's hard to get around it on the phone.
Ironzey said:
I ran into the same problem today. After coming really close to paying the $12/month to use the data I'm already paying for, I decided to come here and ask for help. I got 2 solutions.
1. Change the user agent for my browser. Once I did this it was surfing as usual with the built in tethering app. Only problem is Netflix isn't supported by android2.2 browser.
2. PDA net, I read somewhere that a it hides what type of traffic. It seems to work. No restrictions, no redirects.
I'm going to stick with the second alternative because it behaves the way I'm used to.
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PDAnet should work, but T-Mobile filtering and checking for UAstring can potentially get around this. Depending on how PDAnet tries to "hide" or change your final connection you may be successful.
It happened to me as well. I was using Chrome on OSX but after the redirect page started manifesting itself, I wondered if it would be the same with all browsers. I tested Safari and no redirect page
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i've started getting this annoying t mobile hot spot offer when i select to open websites in the stock browser in desktop view. it does it for some sites and not all and only in the desktop view. when i open the mobile version, it opens fine. this only happens in stock ics browser, when i do the same thing in chrome, it works and no annoying t mobile redirect. anyone else been getting this on Tmobile? how do i get rid of it?
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i've started getting this annoying t mobile hot spot offer when i select to open websites in the stock browser in desktop view. it does it for some sites and not all and only in the desktop view. when i open the mobile version, it opens fine. this only happens in stock ics browser, when i do the same thing in chrome, it works and no annoying t mobile redirect. anyone else been getting this on Tmobile? how do i get rid of it?
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i had that happen on my nexus s for about a month. change your user agent to android. browser settings, advanced, user agent, android.
I'll post here again quickly to tell you to search a bit if you want more info.
T-Mobile currently uses the browser UAstring (User Agent String) to "stop" tethering. Their thinking is that if your browser reports a "desktop" UAstring that you must be using a desktop computer tethered to your phone. As you and I know, this obviously isn't the case, and you're simply trying to view desktop pages on your phone.
Seemingly the way they choose to start redirecting you is once you've used a decent amount of data on a certain browser. After that, they "flag" your account as tethering, and you start getting redirects for that browser. Usually it's around 200mb for me, but this month I've used ~130mb in Chrome Beta and I'm getting it. I'm nowhere near my data throttle either (~790mb of 5gb).
Since Chrome Beta for Android came out, I've been having this issue, because Chrome Beta reports a UAstring that is very similar to desktop Chrome. I've read many support threads and spoken with T-Mobile directly. They're aware of the issue and are currently working on a fix. What that entails, who knows. They're surely going to have to figure something out because they're currently selling ICS devices that have access to the Chrome Beta. Surely they're getting inundated with CS calls about this.
Their official stance to me was "... in the mean time, use another browser. Thank you for your patience." Which is pretty much BS. Im very surprised it's taken them this long to be forced to change their policies. "Detecting" tethering based on UAstring is stupidly simple to bypass on the desktop, and is an inconvenience to normal users on the phone who aren't even tethering.
martonikaj said:
I'll post here again quickly to tell you to search a bit if you want more info.
T-Mobile currently uses the browser UAstring (User Agent String) to "stop" tethering. Their thinking is that if your browser reports a "desktop" UAstring that you must be using a desktop computer tethered to your phone. As you and I know, this obviously isn't the case, and you're simply trying to view desktop pages on your phone.
Seemingly the way they choose to start redirecting you is once you've used a decent amount of data on a certain browser. After that, they "flag" your account as tethering, and you start getting redirects for that browser. Usually it's around 200mb for me, but this month I've used ~130mb in Chrome Beta and I'm getting it. I'm nowhere near my data throttle either (~790mb of 5gb).
Since Chrome Beta for Android came out, I've been having this issue, because Chrome Beta reports a UAstring that is very similar to desktop Chrome. I've read many support threads and spoken with T-Mobile directly. They're aware of the issue and are currently working on a fix. What that entails, who knows. They're surely going to have to figure something out because they're currently selling ICS devices that have access to the Chrome Beta. Surely they're getting inundated with CS calls about this.
Their official stance to me was "... in the mean time, use another browser. Thank you for your patience." Which is pretty much BS. Im very surprised it's taken them this long to be forced to change their policies. "Detecting" tethering based on UAstring is stupidly simple to bypass on the desktop, and is an inconvenience to normal users on the phone who aren't even tethering.
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simms22 said:
i had that happen on my nexus s for about a month. change your user agent to android. browser settings, advanced, user agent, android.
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wasya152 said:
i've started getting this annoying t mobile hot spot offer when i select to open websites in the stock browser in desktop view. it does it for some sites and not all and only in the desktop view. when i open the mobile version, it opens fine. this only happens in stock ics browser, when i do the same thing in chrome, it works and no annoying t mobile redirect. anyone else been getting this on Tmobile? how do i get rid of it?
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This is a bunch of bull. This is the basis of a massive thread I started with many people who share this very complaint among others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677490
I need some help. In my university FIU computers mainly PC's are required to download something called a Clean Access Agent to allow the computer to log into the wiffi network. However phones do not need to download this agent. Recently I have noticed that occasionally on certain ROMs I flash will cause my phone or tablet to be seen like a PC and thus is prompted to download the Clean Access Agent. I have experienced this on several ROMs for my HP Touchpad as well as for my GSIII. Recently I flashed MOAR ROM which I extremely like and once again encountered this issue.
I have searched for this all over! With no solution.
If anyone can help it would be much appreciated, it is crucial I connect to wiffi at my school. And I don't wanna switch to another ROM when I just settled into this one.
-DMDMD
dmdelgado said:
I need some help. In my university FIU computers mainly PC's are required to download something called a Clean Access Agent to allow the computer to log into the wiffi network. However phones do not need to download this agent. Recently I have noticed that occasionally on certain ROMs I flash will cause my phone or tablet to be seen like a PC and thus is prompted to download the Clean Access Agent. I have experienced this on several ROMs for my HP Touchpad as well as for my GSIII. Recently I flashed MOAR ROM which I extremely like and once again encountered this issue.
I have searched for this all over! With no solution.
If anyone can help it would be much appreciated, it is crucial I connect to wiffi at my school. And I don't wanna switch to another ROM when I just settled into this one.
-DMDMD
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I believe it has to do with the browser agent that your phone is using. If the browser is set to "desktop mode" (it's somewhere in the settings for the browser), your school's network automatically prompts for the Clean Access Agent. When desktop mode is not checked, the network sees a mobile phone connecting and does not ask for the Agent to be installed.
Hope this helps!
EDIT: I just checked my phone with stock AOSP browser (see my sig for my setup), and the setting you're looking for is under Browser --> Settings --> Advanced --> User Agent --> Choose Android for the one that will not trigger the Clean Access Agent. Depending on what browser your ROM is using, the settings might be a little different, but you're basically just looking for "user agent" or a checkbox that says "Desktop mode" or something along those lines.
topherk said:
I believe it has to do with the browser agent that your phone is using. If the browser is set to "desktop mode" (it's somewhere in the settings for the browser), your school's network automatically prompts for the Clean Access Agent. When desktop mode is not checked, the network sees a mobile phone connecting and does not ask for the Agent to be installed.
Hope this helps!
EDIT: I just checked my phone with stock AOSP browser (see my sig for my setup), and the setting you're looking for is under Browser --> Settings --> Advanced --> User Agent --> Choose Android for the one that will not trigger the Clean Access Agent. Depending on what browser your ROM is using, the settings might be a little different, but you're basically just looking for "user agent" or a checkbox that says "Desktop mode" or something along those lines.
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Thank-you so much for your response... I was checking and unfortunately I didn't see that option in my native browser as well as Google Chrome (my primary browser). I downloaded an app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appo2.ua&hl=en hopefully this does the job, however I cant check until tomorrow when I am back on campus. I really hope the User agent is the issue because its such as shame to have to switch ROMs just for this little issue.
On a side note, would you happen to know why this would vary from one ROM to another??
Anyways Thanks again!
-DMDMD
Hey guys,
I apologize if this has been asked but I couldn't find it on any particular thread. About 10 days ago I started getting T-Mobile's upsell for tethering that I'd (thanks to the awesome developers) been able to successfully evade for over a year. Is there any fix for this? I'm (now) running Lollipop but it happened before upgrading so it seems unrelated. Thanks in advance!
tonesofheresy said:
Hey guys,
I apologize if this has been asked but I couldn't find it on any particular thread. About 10 days ago I started getting T-Mobile's upsell for tethering that I'd (thanks to the awesome developers) been able to successfully evade for over a year. Is there any fix for this? I'm (now) running Lollipop but it happened before upgrading so it seems unrelated. Thanks in advance!
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There's only one solution working for me right now, but you'll have to buy this app: Wifi Tether Router
Go into /system and make a copy of your build.prop
Open your build.prop with a text editor and add this line all the way at the bottom:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
Save the file and reboot your device
Open the wifi tether router app and go to "configure wifi router." At the bottom of the page, there's a button to visit the site for device config settings. Scroll down that page to find settings for Note 3.
Once you're all set up, you should be good to go. Only thing you have to do is use a UserAgent switching app on your browser to make it think you're on a mobile device. I'm using User-Agent Switcher (with the blue globe icon) for Google Chrome.
Hope that helps.
Justinchi said:
There's only one solution working for me right now, but you'll have to buy this app: Wifi Tether Router
Go into /system and make a copy of your build.prop
Open your build.prop with a text editor and add this line all the way at the bottom:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
Save the file and reboot your device
Open the wifi tether router app and go to "configure wifi router." At the bottom of the page, there's a button to visit the site for device config settings. Scroll down that page to find settings for Note 3.
Once you're all set up, you should be good to go. Only thing you have to do is use a UserAgent switching app on your browser to make it think you're on a mobile device. I'm using User-Agent Switcher (with the blue globe icon) for Google Chrome.
Hope that helps.
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Hey, thanks for your quick reply, but with a user-agent switcher, everything works even now. I was hoping to avoid changing my headers because certain sites won't be served to a "mobile" device. Luckily, my internet tv apparently doesn't send any headers because I can still tether unlimited...ly with that, but it's definitely frustrating getting mobile versions of sites on my laptop. I have observed a somewhat strange behavior that I wonder if we can exploit. It's somewhat finicky, but I've noticed that if I Google the name of a site I want to access (still via the address bar, though), the search results come up without TMO nagging me about a hotspot and oftentimes the link from the search results takes me to the site. I can't make sense of it, but as an example, if you try www.yahoo.com, you'll get the hotspot page, but if you google "yahoo" and click the first result, you get taken to the site. *shrug* I'm not smart enough to figure it out, but perhaps this observation will help someone else solve the problem
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Hey, thanks for your quick reply, but with a user-agent switcher, everything works even now. I was hoping to avoid changing my headers because certain sites won't be served to a "mobile" device. Luckily, my internet tv apparently doesn't send any headers because I can still tether unlimited...ly with that, but it's definitely frustrating getting mobile versions of sites on my laptop. I have observed a somewhat strange behavior that I wonder if we can exploit. It's somewhat finicky, but I've noticed that if I Google the name of a site I want to access (still via the address bar, though), the search results come up without TMO nagging me about a hotspot and oftentimes the link from the search results takes me to the site. I can't make sense of it, but as an example, if you try www.yahoo.com, you'll get the hotspot page, but if you google "yahoo" and click the first result, you get taken to the site. *shrug* I'm not smart enough to figure it out, but perhaps this observation will help someone else solve the problem
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Glad you got it working! Yeah, idk about the Google Search trick, but I'll try it out sometime.
[Q] how hide apps in start menu of Windows 10 Mobile "or" add whitelist to Edge?
Hi,
is it possible to "hide" an app from the W10M start menu? And I don't refer to the home screen, I mean the full list of apps.
Or would there be a way to let the browser only work with a whitelist? .. No, Microsoft Family does not work properly on W10M.
Background - feel free to call me soft:
- Bought a Lumia 640 XL for my wife and a 2nd hand Lumia 535 for my daughter (to be her first smartphone, getting 9 end of the month) so that they could "share" the same experience, more or less.
- Played around with the "Microsoft Family" feature, and, to make it short, it doesn't work properly, not nearly close to what was expected or advertised. That might change ... in a few months. Maybe.
At least the URL filtering does not work "at all".
- So, in short, in order not to instantly fall back to pick an Android based device for my daughter (one beloved Razr i still in close range...), I was wondering if it was possible to "hide" one or the other thing from the start menu instead, the Edge browser in particular. Uninstallation I don't expect to be possible, probably being a deeper chunk of the OS, but only touching the start menu I concluded "should" be possible, one way or the other. At least I hope so.
Would I start to deal with the "full file system access" approach or rather try to dive into registry fiddling? Any help or maybe clear hint would be highly appreciated.
By now I did not find anything related to this. Neither here at xda or somewhere else. Probably no one considers doing something like that for his kids on Windows 10 Mobile ...
Who would want to hide a browser on a smartphone, anyway? .. yeah, I can't keep my kids "off" of the bad Internet, but I can at least keep an eye upon as long as possible.
Thanks in advance,
regards,...
bloodot
additional remark:
... after adding "a few" URLs to Microsoft's web interface for blocking URLs (via a web automation tool, yeah, I'm lazy...) it stopped working at 1003 regitered URLs. So, as long as they don't come up with something that works (whitlist... external service for checking URLs... whatever...) any help on this matter would be highly appreciated.
You want to keep her off the "web," correct?
Change your Mobile Data & Wifi DNS to 127.0.01
(You will need interop/FS access: )
Create a hosts file in C://Windows/system32/drivers/etc
Determine what sites you want to *allow* and find their IP. For example, if you want to whitelist Facebook, open cmd.exe from your PC and type:
Code:
ping facebook.com
You'll see:
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C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping facebook.com
Pinging facebook.com [31.13.76.68] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 31.13.76.68: bytes=32 time=75ms TTL=82
Reply from 31.13.76.68: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=82
Reply from 31.13.76.68: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=82
Reply from 31.13.76.68: bytes=32 time=74ms TTL=82
Ping statistics for 31.13.76.68:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 74ms, Maximum = 79ms, Average = 76ms
C:\WINDOWS\system32>
So, you'd add:
Code:
31.13.76.68 facebook.com
31.13.76.68 www.facebook.com
to your phone's host file.
If you can create profiles on your router, you can also do the same (DNS to 127.0.01 for her phone's MAC address)
Doing this would make all of the web unresolvable, except facebook.com
To change the Wifi DNS:
Settings -> Network & Wireless -> Wi-fi -> Static IP -> fill your info
*If your router doesn't support static IP, you should check and see if your router supports profiles, and build one to target her phone mac address.* (If you don't target her mac address/other phone identifier and set your router to 127.0.01, all of the devices on your network will encounter blocked access to the web)
For Mobile Data:
I don't see an immediate switch for this (at least with my provider), it's routed through a network port on their servers. Unless something changes in future builds, it's probably best to just turn mobile data off and use the Wifi/hosts to keep control of what sites she can access.
Thank you very much!
Point is, I don't want to keep her off completely, and the major issue would be to keep control once she's "not" inside our home network but on cellular.
So I think I need to start investigating on my own whether I can manipulate the start menu or even the browser itself.
The local DNS lookup, which would only work on WiFi anyhow, would also result in me analyzing all communcation end points for "any" kind of
app I'd like her to use. Doable, but still the mobile part would be open. Beyond that I cannot block here "re-enabling" the cellular data connection,
the system isn't that strict in that matter. Would be nice, though, ...
@home I already use OpenDNS, probably should have mentioned that, so that's more or less under control.
Let's see if some other ideas or approached pop up from xda; I'm actually trying to get in direct contact with one of the Microsoft Family team
as, on a business level, we're currently working closely with some of the Microsoft 10 teams.
If they, if connected that is, tell me that they're aware of the bugs and that they're actually part of a road map, I'd be happy, too.
However, for the time being I expect I have to sort it on my own.
I'll give it a go with interop and see what I can find to deal with.
So, any other ideas?
Regards,..
bloodot
How about interopunlock and use your own hosts file?
How about App corner inside settings?
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How about interopunlock and use your own hosts file?
How about App corner inside settings?
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... the hostsfile will only work via WiFi, at least that's my current understanding as for cellular one cannot change the DNS settings, meaning, you can't make them point towards 127.0.0.1.
App Corner I already "played" around with - it has some other issues
- it's buggy, sometimes it doesn't even start.
- can be bypassed by just restarting the device
- everything "allowed" is available to public, more or less.
- the App Corner does not allow "games" to be made available ...
... hey, so what about the kids' corner?
- well, that doesn't allow the phone app... but still, that would also be a half-baked approach again.
I hope it were at least three different teams designing those packages, the kids' corner, the app corner and the family safety integration.
As a whole, NONE of them delivers what a parent needs when actually "permanently" giving a Windows based phone to one of his children.
bloodot said:
... the hostsfile will only work via WiFi, at least that's my current understanding as for cellular one cannot change the DNS settings, meaning, you can't make them point towards 127.0.0.1.
App Corner I already "played" around with - it has some other issues
- it's buggy, sometimes it doesn't even start.
- can be bypassed by just restarting the device
- everything "allowed" is available to public, more or less.
- the App Corner does not allow "games" to be made available ...
... hey, so what about the kids' corner?
- well, that doesn't allow the phone app... but still, that would also be a half-baked approach again.
I hope it were at least three different teams designing those packages, the kids' corner, the app corner and the family safety integration.
As a whole, NONE of them delivers what a parent needs when actually "permanently" giving a Windows based phone to one of his children.
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PIN + kids corner. Can't bypass it.
-W_O_L_F- said:
PIN + kids corner. Can't bypass it.
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... it's not my phone she should use. She should be able to use her own phone.
That includes calling her mum or me.
"Phone" is not an allowed app for the kids corner, it ain't listed when setting that up.
And even if it was, it would allow "anyone" who would steal that phone to directly use it's SIM card hazzle free.
And, as a minor annoyance, anything else that would be allowed via that mechanism.
It's just the current truth to deal with, W10M is not child-ready by any means.
If I want more control, I need to switch the phone.
Or start trusting a 9year-ish old girl to deal with the Internet without restrictions.
... so fiddled around with a few things, though interop is active according to the tool itself after sideloading it, wconnect won't work at all (crashes, no proper error given and before that IpOverUsbInstaller won't finish installation), so I can't get that key to get the SSH connection done and therefore I can't get full file access.
I think I'm done with this now. Selling the phone, using the Razr I instead, already have the proper system locking tools in place for that, bye bye Lumia 535. I would have loved to see my child deal with such an "easy" OS interface for getting used to smartphones, but I can't let her have access to the Internet while "not at home" without restrictions. No way.
... went so far and tried miradore to restrict the system via MDM. And guess what ... the f'n browser CANNOT be blocked via MDM. At least miradore has a free trial of 14 days. I was even willing to pay the damn 2$ per month for that service. *sigh* MAYBE it has a URL filter SOMEWHERE ...
... however, at least one can disallow the "usage" of the browser. MAYBE that works. Trying...
Yes. Works. JESUS ... what a mess. Let's see if I can get that done somewhere / somehow via MDM "without" another monthly fee ...
yeah, worked. Pitty though, they want "10$" minimum fee per month.
BUT: ... I stumbled over https://www.manageengine.com/mobile-device-management/
Free for up to 25 devices. Either cloud based (not supporting W10M for now) or Windows based installation (supporting W10M, more up2date...).
And it works. Thank you very much. Case closed.
Though I cannot restrict the URLs ... I can blog the Edge browser. And the Microsoft Store. Happy bunny.