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Hello and happy holidays to everyone.
I am running VaelPak 3.0 and have removed some unwanted apps that I don't use/need.
If I flash an updated version of the ROM, I will get all these apps back. My question is, is there a way I can save my phone's image as it is now so that I do not have to remove those apps manually again the next time?
Any advice will be highly appreciated.
cant you just backup your nand??
or use titanium backup..
xtrubambinoxpr said:
cant you just backup your nand??
or use titanium backup..
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I do nand backups, but haven't restored them yet.
Won't it just put the old apps (backed up apps) back in place and not delete the new apps that the updated ROM added?
Thanks,
i removed all the app i didnt want with titanium back up THEN did a nand backup and it restored from the point i was (without the things i wanted) so i guess you can do that..
just take the nand backup you already have and save that backup on your comp in case something ever happens..
then do another one with the corrections and updates you did and that the one without all the bulk..
thats what i did..
xtrubambinoxpr said:
i removed all the app i didnt want with titanium back up THEN did a nand backup and it restored from the point i was (without the things i wanted) so i guess you can do that..
just take the nand backup you already have and save that backup on your comp in case something ever happens..
then do another one with the corrections and updates you did and that the one without all the bulk..
thats what i did..
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I will try that and update the post on how it works out.
Thanks.
They will come back forget doing nands or titanium that's the hard way. Just get an app that allows you to remove apps from your phone. I use this simple app called root manager its easy as pie and I just remove what I don't want again. Titanium can also do this I think but its not user friendly for me lol
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yea titanium confused me at first too.. a little to complicated and still is..
i was just saying if u wanted to do the nand backup of your new and improved system its easier..
and since we on the topic of backups and removal..
any apps that can backup ALL apps and data and restore them because im about to unroot to root using Toast method so i have nand unlocked..
while I haven't tried this...so try at your own risk. In the .zip file, clean out everything you don't want and leave only the stuff you want new, or updated. That SHOULD keep them from installing to the phone when flashing. once those are gone, just flash like normal.
topdawgn8 said:
while I haven't tried this...so try at your own risk. In the .zip file, clean out everything you don't want and leave only the stuff you want new, or updated. That SHOULD keep them from installing to the phone when flashing. once those are gone, just flash like normal.
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Isn't the file signed? I will have to sign it again, right?
I think I will just write a script and run it after flashing a new ROM every time.
Thanks,
I don't know if it would remove the signature or not...worth a try. Let me look real quick. there's already a tool out for signing files...at least it would save you some key strokes.
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794132&highlight=sign+files
all the old roms and everything besides my pictures
or will that unroot it
shoofly said:
all the old roms and everything besides my pictures
or will that unroot it
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It won't unroot it at all. You're safe to delete whatever you want to from your sd card. I suggest copying the sd card to your computer, just so you have a good backup. Then delete whatever you want. That way you have everything backed up, just in case you ever remember something you needed, you'll have it.
k2buckley said:
It won't unroot it at all. You're safe to delete whatever you want to from your sd card. I suggest copying the sd card to your computer, just so you have a good backup. Then delete whatever you want. That way you have everything backed up, just in case you ever remember something you needed, you'll have it.
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Aren't there a couple files you need in there to be able to boot into recovery? Other than those you can delete whatever you desire. Of course some apps and rom features may work incorrectly if you delete their files. Generally the rom and apps will replace these at their next start up if they are vital.
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michaelvibe said:
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Aren't there a couple files you need in there to be able to boot into recovery? Other than those you can delete whatever you desire. Of course some apps and rom features may work incorrectly if you delete their files. Generally the rom and apps will replace these at their next start up if they are vital.
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Actually no, since when you load your recovery, it loads it to the phone, not from the sdcard, so you could go into recovery without and sdcard even, you just won't be able to do anything. And yes, as he said, if you have apps/pic backgrounds, ect that are set to read from the sdcard and you delete them you'll get errors, ect.
was wondering the same thing. thx for the info
rmitchell4209 said:
was wondering the same thing. thx for the info
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Glad to help out.
this is literally my second time ever doing a N- Backup. and first time was when i first got rooted.
And i just tried doing it right now so i can try out a new rom real quick and wanted to switch back to this one. so i went into Recovery and Clicked N-Backup and it already had
Boot
System
Data
Selected to begin the backup. so i did it that way and i get Oops... something went wrong! Please check recovery Log.
And log only shows the backup beginning ( example: Performing Backup .................... )
and then it stops for no reason.
This isn't a deal breaker for me since i don't ever backup anyways but wonder if someone can help me out just incase i need it in the future.
Thanks
Check your memory available on your sdcard, seems like there isn't enough space to create it..
teh roxxorz said:
Check your memory available on your sdcard, seems like there isn't enough space to create it..
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how do i check how much memory on there exactly, something else i would like to learn lol
Joey_UFC said:
how do i check how much memory on there exactly, something else i would like to learn lol
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Well you can boot into the phone, go to settings, then storage, or mount to a pc and check it that way. You'd want to have at least 500mb. I'd start by clearing out any roms you may have left on there that you don't use, or other unneeded files, ect.
teh roxxorz said:
Well you can boot into the phone, go to settings, then storage, or mount to a pc and check it that way. You'd want to have at least 500mb. I'd start by clearing out any roms you may have left on there that you don't use, or other unneeded files, ect.
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will do. i know i have atleast 200mb because i normally keep synergy and the alliance rom in my sd card but i only got one of them right now.
edit: i have 413mb
Joey_UFC said:
will do. i know i have atleast 200mb because i normally keep synergy and the alliance rom in my sd card but i only got one of them right now.
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Alrighty, and if you have the backups of them to flash between in recovery, you don't need the actual rom to flash, which takes up extra space.
Yup it worked. i cleared out synergy and got 700+mb space.
Thanks Roxx. may the force be with you
Joey_UFC said:
Yup it worked. i cleared out synergy and got 700+mb space.
Thanks Roxx. may the force be with you
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Never a problem. Also, clear out the 'dead; backup, its size will be 0kb.
Also I recommend renaming your backups [the BDS...ect], NOT the HT....folder, only the BDS...ect, that way you know what you're restoring. You can't use spaces, but hyphens, underscores, and periods are fair game though.
Also, may the force also be with you.
Nandroids are huge if you back up android_secure and etc. My cm7 nandroid is like 600mb and my GB sense nand is like 1gb. You will need a **** ton of space especially backing up synergy.
I usually backups everything except for SD EXT. Less work......
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Nandroids are huge if you back up android_secure and etc. My cm7 nandroid is like 600mb and my GB sense nand is like 1gb. You will need a **** ton of space especially backing up synergy.
I usually backups everything except for SD EXT. Less work......
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That's a good point. I only backup the data, boot, and system, since the android secure takes up a lot, and I take the extra minute or two to just restore from titanium backup once I boot into the rom, to keep the size down.
i deleted the backup file that was on my sdcard and it still saying my disc is full. were else would it be? its not in the root
Did you have any clockwork backups?
teh roxxorz said:
Did you have any clockwork backups?
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Maybe, i used clockwork when i first got rooted but been on RA since
Joey_UFC said:
Maybe, i used clockwork when i first got rooted but been on RA since
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yeah i just checked and i have 2 backup files from clockwork
Joey_UFC said:
yeah i just checked and i have 2 backup files from clockwork
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Might as well delete them, since you can't restore those from amon_ra, or copy them to a pc if you ever go back to clockwork.
man i gotta clean these damn folders out, so many useless ****. i had clockwork backups from 3 months ago lol
But now i can fit a rom in there. once i get booted up i will know exactly how much space.
Weird thing is that i always had the Clockwork backups on here and after the deleted the backup i did today it still said it was full. and i only had 1 rom in my root
I am getting a force close when I try to get into 3G hotspot settings, this is most likely related to the fact that I can no longer use my phone as a hotspot with ease.
Okay.....
What ROM are you using? Are you rooted?
Need more information.
Jizzylax said:
Okay.....
What ROM are you using? Are you rooted?
Need more information.
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Rooted, running andi bones.
it use to work fine, now I restore some backups but none cure the problem.
I have tried factory reset, and every backup I have and the problem is still there.
OK, I ended up going back to stock and installing the original rom I was running, now it's working, I think this got messed up when I tried UKB rom, and all my backups newer than stock would not take care of the problem.
Now I want to delete some of the backups and save a new backup, but I have not found the location of the backup files.
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OK, I ended up going back to stock and installing the original rom I was running, now it's working, I think this got messed up when I tried UKB rom, and all my backups newer than stock would not take care of the problem.
Now I want to delete some of the backups and save a new backup, but I have not found the location of the backup files.
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If you want help you've got to give us info. What recovery are you using? For twrp there is a folder on your sd card called twrp. I don't remember the name for the cwm folder because I haven't used it for a long time. I've never used 4ext, so if you are on that you'll have to wait for someone else's input.
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If you want help you've got to give us info. What recovery are you using? For twrp there is a folder on your sd card called twrp. I don't remember the name for the cwm folder because I haven't used it for a long time. I've never used 4ext, so if you are on that you'll have to wait for someone else's input.
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Thanks I got it.
gtdtm said:
If you want help you've got to give us info. What recovery are you using? For twrp there is a folder on your sd card called twrp. I don't remember the name for the cwm folder because I haven't used it for a long time. I've never used 4ext, so if you are on that you'll have to wait for someone else's input.
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4ext backups to cwm folder
I'm so fresh you can suck my nits...
Lino. said:
Thanks I got it.
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Do you mind posting your solution in case someone else has the same question?
Hi,
I'm new to both the forums and to rooting, which should be obvious when I say I soft-bricked my phone tonight. After about 3 hours of pouring over these forums and trying numerous things, I was finally able to factory reset my phone. It sucks, but I'm glad to have it at least working again!
Before I went messing around, I created a Nandroid backup using the Samsung Galaxy S3 Toolkit v7.0, but now, since all the files on my droid are gone, that backup only exists on my PC. So, the question is, how do I restore my phone to this backup?
I have an S3 1747M 4.1.1
The files in my backups folder are:
\backup
-\2013-03-23.05.11
--boot.img
efs.tar
efs.img
system.ext4.201303230727.tar
I apologize if this has been answered elsewhere, but I couldn't find it and I'm going crosseyed after spending so much time here tonight :silly:
Thank you!
If the back up was created from a recovery just put it on a SD card a restore from recover
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Pbwizkid said:
If the back up was created from a recovery just put it on a SD card a restore from recover
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Erm... I don't have an external. Is it possible to move it to my internal to accomplish the same thing? I appreciate the help
GerPronouncedGrr said:
Hi,
I'm new to both the forums and to rooting, which should be obvious when I say I soft-bricked my phone tonight. After about 3 hours of pouring over these forums and trying numerous things, I was finally able to factory reset my phone. It sucks, but I'm glad to have it at least working again!
Before I went messing around, I created a Nandroid backup using the Samsung Galaxy S3 Toolkit v7.0, but now, since all the files on my droid are gone, that backup only exists on my PC. So, the question is, how do I restore my phone to this backup?
I have an S3 1747M 4.1.1
The files in my backups folder are:
\backup
-\2013-03-23.05.11
--boot.img
efs.tar
efs.img
system.ext4.201303230727.tar
I apologize if this has been answered elsewhere, but I couldn't find it and I'm going crosseyed after spending so much time here tonight :silly:
Thank you!
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This is not a system backup. The files in your folder do not match the files that you should be seeing in a nandroid folder. You made this in recovery?
xBeerdroiDx said:
This is not a system backup. The files in your folder do not match the files that you should be seeing in a nandroid folder. You made this in recovery?
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This is, I *believe* what was output by the toolkit when I ran the nandroid backup option. Am I looking in the wrong spot? I also did an EFS backup, which could explain erroneous files.
GerPronouncedGrr said:
This is, I *believe* what was output by the toolkit when I ran the nandroid backup option. Am I looking in the wrong spot? I also did an EFS backup, which could explain erroneous files.
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That's what this is: an efs backup, not a nandroid.
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That's what this is: an efs backup, not a nandroid.
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OK, thanks for the info, that clears it up a little. However, just for crystal clarity sake, are you saying that the boot.img is EFS related also?
When I ran the Nandroid backup it gave me the option to save either externally or internally, IIRC. I saved internally because, as mentioned, I don't have an external. If this boot.img isn't what I need, then does that mean I lost my backup when I factory reset? :crying:
Whats the file size of system.ext4.201303230727.tar?
Quasimodem said:
Whats the file size of system.ext4.201303230727.tar?
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I was wondering that too but at the same time, there's still a data & cache tar plus several other standard files I've always seen in a backup that aren't here
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This is, I *believe* what was output by the toolkit when I ran the nandroid backup option. Am I looking in the wrong spot? I also did an EFS backup, which could explain erroneous files.
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That's what this is: an efs backup, not a nandroid.
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Yep. Definitely an efs backup.
xBeerdroiDx said:
I was wondering that too but at the same time, there's still a data & cache tar plus several other standard files I've always seen in a backup that aren't here
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There are major files missing here.
TO OP: Do not attempt to flash any of this unless you are trying to restore your efs (which you should do ONLY IF you lost your imei). The tar file MAY be your system files and the boot.img just that, but that is it. You have none of the rest that is standard and if you are on a custom ROM things could go very wrong. If possible make your nandroids through TWRP or CWM. These will store nandroids properly. I believe both give you the option to store the nandroids on the internal or external (if you have one) memory. Make backups of these regularly if you really like the ROM.
I would HIGHLY recommend an external card...and for various reasons. It can be only a 2gig and that will be fine. This covers you in the event that your data/charging port should quit working for any reason (rare but it can happen). It also gives you a convenient way to backup those important things to you (pictures, music, etc.) and convenience to restore nandroids or revert to stock.
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TO OP: Do not attempt to flash any of this unless you are trying to restore your efs (which you should do ONLY IF you lost your imei). The tar file MAY be your system files and the boot.img just that, but that is it. You have none of the rest that is standard and if you are on a custom ROM things could go very wrong. If possible make your nandroids through TWRP or CWM. These will store nandroids properly. I believe both give you the option to store the nandroids on the internal or external (if you have one) memory. Make backups of these regularly if you really like the ROM.
I would HIGHLY recommend an external card...and for various reasons. It can be only a 2gig and that will be fine. This covers you in the event that your data/charging port should quit working for any reason (rare but it can happen). It also gives you a convenient way to backup those important things to you (pictures, music, etc.) and convenience to restore nandroids or revert to stock.
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+1 for the micro sd card. At $10 for a 16g, you can't go wrong. I keep a backup or 2 on mine, plus my current rom/gapps/recovery zips. Very handy.
Aybarrap1, that rom settling in well for you?
OK, well now that it's been pointed out to me I feel like an idiot. Size of .tar file in question is 0kb... So obviously backup failed and I just never noticed, because I didn't know what to look for. I saw the operation complete and assumed it was fine. I guess I just have to accept that I'm starting over from square one. Lesson learned from all this: Read more, ask first.
Thanks go out to everyone who helped me figure this out.
GerPronouncedGrr said:
OK, well now that it's been pointed out to me I feel like an idiot. Size of .tar file in question is 0kb... So obviously backup failed and I just never noticed, because I didn't know what to look for. I saw the operation complete and assumed it was fine. I guess I just have to accept that I'm starting over from square one. Lesson learned from all this: Read more, ask first.
Thanks go out to everyone who helped me figure this out.
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That's what we're here for, buddy.
Go back into recovery and make another backup so you'll have one. What's good is that you actually do have an efs backup. That's a very smart thing to do and something I keep on my micro sd card. Cheers
By the way, while we're on the topic of me not knowing what's going on, is it possible that through all of this, factory reset, stock boot, that my phone is still rooted? I started re-installing apps and one of them was the ROM Toolbox that caused my issue in the first place. I didn't do anything with it yet, but I didn't notice that it behaves as though I have SU access.
GerPronouncedGrr said:
By the way, while we're on the topic of me not knowing what's going on, is it possible that through all of this, factory reset, stock boot, that my phone is still rooted? I started re-installing apps and one of them was the ROM Toolbox that caused my issue in the first place. I didn't do anything with it yet, but I didn't notice that it behaves as though I have SU access.
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I don't know exactly what steps you took to recover your device so I can't say specifically. However, you can download apps like rom manager and titanium Backup that require root to see if they work. Do you still have a custom recovery (cwm or twrp)?
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+1 for the micro sd card. At $10 for a 16g, you can't go wrong. I keep a backup or 2 on mine, plus my current rom/gapps/recovery zips. Very handy.
Aybarrap1, that rom settling in well for you?
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So far. Of course, as with all ROMS, I can't say for sure until I have given it a couple of days. Thanks for asking. And regarding the micro sd...you are right. They are super cheap now so there is really not much of an excuse to not have one. For the cost of a couple of beers or eating out you can buy one that has ample memory.
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GerPronouncedGrr said:
By the way, while we're on the topic of me not knowing what's going on, is it possible that through all of this, factory reset, stock boot, that my phone is still rooted? I started re-installing apps and one of them was the ROM Toolbox that caused my issue in the first place. I didn't do anything with it yet, but I didn't notice that it behaves as though I have SU access.
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If you are unsure, look for SuperSU or SuperUser in your app drawer. Or download TiBu and run it. If you have SU access it will prompt you (or open up if already installed). If you do not have root, try these methods here if you have a windows pc. You sound new to this so this would be easier than the learning all the steps you took to gain root. The toolbox is great but take your time to learn about each component before jumping in. Remember toolbox is more or less a roll up of multiple things root and otherwise. Take your time to learn one thing at a time. This will save you a lot of headache.
Yes, I have SuperSU, and I was successfully able to change my system font using the toolkit, so it seems I still have root access. I will definitely be moving more slowly with this stuff in the future! Thanks again for all the help, everyone!
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