We should all be getting the official Jelly Bean update in the next few weeks from what I've heard. My main question is my GS3 right now is rooted, stock rom, with a custom kernel.
When the official JB comes out can I just update right away or do I have to put the original kernel back on the phone before doing so? Or will the update install a completely new kernel with the JB?
Thanks guys.
Any updates will install Rom kernel radio and recovery
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I actually never updated via kies but i believe stock rooted should be fine to update.. correct me if in wrong guys.
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Yes you can update with root, but unless you use Mobile Odin, voodoo ota rootkeeper, or cwm you will lose root.
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Okay thanks for the tips on keeping root. But as I said right now I'm running the Trinity kernel. With the new JB update via OTA or Kies will the kernel also be replaced? Don't want the Trinity kernel on there as it probably won't be compatible with the new JB.
Yes they will be replaced. Everything is written over.. except data, which i recommend to wipe anyways lol
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Teo032 said:
Yes they will be replaced. Everything is written over.. except data, which i recommend to wipe anyways lol
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Thanks man.
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Okay thanks for the tips on keeping root. But as I said right now I'm running the Trinity kernel. With the new JB update via OTA or Kies will the kernel also be replaced? Don't want the Trinity kernel on there as it probably won't be compatible with the new JB.
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Actually it will probably fail. The ota requires you to be FULL stock. This includes kernel.
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Actually it will probably fail. The ota requires you to be FULL stock. This includes kernel.
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Hmm i just thought about that.. how is he running a custom kernel? Must be running a custom recovery and that will fail for sure. Not sure about custom kernel though.
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Teo032 said:
Hmm i just thought about that.. how is he running a custom kernel? Must be running a custom recovery and that will fail for sure. Not sure about custom kernel though.
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Well, there are a few ways you can get a custom kernel without a custom recovery. Its rare to do so though.
But yeah if the kernrl isnt also matching stock itll surely fail
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With my Nexus S when we received the JB ota update I was on a stock rom, rooted with a custom kernel and different radio and the update failed. If I resume..
Rooted with stock rom, custom kernel, different radio = Failed ota
Rooted with stock rom, stock kernel stock radio = Working ota
But I'm no expert, could be different with GS3
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Well, there are a few ways you can get a custom kernel without a custom recovery. Its rare to do so though.
But yeah if the kernrl isnt also matching stock itll surely fail
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Cool, never did any official updates after all this time with android. Good to know lol... but probably never going to officially update anyways. Rather wait for someone to build a rom off it lol
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Pretty sure I lost my original backup I created with Root, Stock Rom, Stock Kernel. Does anyone have a link to the STOCK UVALH2 kernel?
You can just use mrRobinson's Stock Rooted and then use the OTA Rootkeeper to temp unroot, take the OTA and then restore root.
When my Transformer went through several ICS OTAs, I learned a bit about how updates work. They first do a system check, meaning they look for Stock ROM, Stock Kernel, Stock Recovery (all of which can be found on here), but they also look for specific /system/apps (bloat). If there is something missing then the OTA will fail.
If you flash back to full stock, make sure you don't delete anything from /system or disable it in Settings. I ususally freeze it in TiB and then when taking the OTA, I just defrost them.
If you want to manually unRoot just use terminal and run the below.
Code:
su
rm -r /system/app/Superuser.apk
rm -r /system/xbin/busybox
rm -r /system/bin/su
reboot
You may need to take su out of xbin if it is in there too. Check before running these codes to see which or both it lies (/bin and*or /xbin)
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My understanding is that recovery stays in a separate partition and whatever you do to it does not affect getting an OTA, is that right?
Also, what if my phone is rooted using the Zerg exploit or whatever method, can I still get an OTA?
So basically I think my questions is, what ultimately decides whether my phone can get an OTA, or not?
if you are on stock ROM, you will get it just fine
but you might loose ROOT after it finish the upgrade
if you are on Custom ROM, you wont get OTA
You can get the ota even on a custom ROM. As long as you have the stock recovery.
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You can get the ota even on a custom ROM. As long as you have the stock recovery.
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How would you have a custom ROM with stock recovery? I've never rooted a Samsung phone since this is my first and I'm waiting to root it, so unless Samsung is different I don't see how.
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You can flash stock recovery using odin
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How would you have a custom ROM with stock recovery? I've never rooted a Samsung phone since this is my first and I'm waiting to root it, so unless Samsung is different I don't see how.
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I'm sure within a couple days there will be a custom rom with the new features. that's an assumption but its always been like that on other phones I have had. Hopefully that's the case with this phone also.
I have stock rooted ROM with CWM recovery, is that okay? Or do I have to have a stock recovery?
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I have stock rooted ROM with CWM recovery, is that okay? Or do I have to have a stock recovery?
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you will get the notification for the ota, your phone will download it but when it boots into recovery to flash it and its not the stock recovery, it will just give an error and you will probably have to pull the battery to reboot. i did this on the nexus s. if i remember right i never got the ota notififcation again either after it failed.
I know there are methods out there that can flash the entire phone back to stock (kernel, ROM, recovery) but that involves wiping everything. Is there a way to flash back the stock recovery only since I'm already on stock ROM and kernel?
Big thanks...
I wonder where it puts the update after it downloads it. Would be nice to grab it and maybe install without reverting to stock...
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I wonder where it puts the update after it downloads it. Would be nice to grab it and maybe install without reverting to stock...
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It goes to data/cache if I remember right. And there will be rooted roms posted within hours of the ota so its really nothing to even worry about
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I know there are methods out there that can flash the entire phone back to stock (kernel, ROM, recovery) but that involves wiping everything. Is there a way to flash back the stock recovery only since I'm already on stock ROM and kernel?
Big thanks...
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There is a stock recovery posted in the dev section you can flash in Odin
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Found that and it works. Thanks!
you can keep your phone more up to date by flashing roms as opposed to waiting for an OTA. galaxy s4g is still stuck on froyo. Epic 4g just got gingerbread.
Has has anyone received the update?
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Has has anyone received the update?
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Not yet. I went back to stock last night just in case so I hope its today like Tmobile said
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T-Mobile said today now? Where did they say this?
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T-Mobile said today now? Where did they say this?
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They tweeted it a while back. Today our phone and the amaze are suppose to get an update
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Last I heard it was the 13th, oh well who knows lol
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What is the update supposed to do or fix?
i need a STOCK rom for my galaxy s3 tmobile not tweaked or anything i need what came on the phone with root so the root can carry over thanks
Wildchld has a stock rom with root in the dev section. I'm on my phone so I cant post the link but you can search it. I hope that is what your looking for.
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Create an account here, they have the stock ROM.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&model=SGH-T999&pcode=TMB&os=1&type=1#firmware
thanks will do
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
No trip root method.
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So I can flash one of those 4.1.1 stock roms on stock recovery? If so could you let me know how
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You can flash the otas in stock recovery if thats what you mean. But you have to be full stock UVALH2 first.
If you mean one of the roms based on those leaked otas then you have to flash with cwm or twrp.
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You can flash the otas in stock recovery if thats what you mean. But you have to be full stock UVALH2 first.
If you mean one of the roms based on those leaked otas then you have to flash with cwm or twrp.
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Well I went to that website that was posted above and it showed 4.1.1. I am on complete stock uvlh2 right now. Just was wondering if and how you flash that or if I need to root and do it through CWM
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michaeldotson817 said:
Well I went to that website that was posted above and it showed 4.1.1. I am on complete stock uvlh2 right now. Just was wondering if and how you flash that or if I need to root and do it through CWM
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Ok, first and just fyi, all of the files listed under OTA on that site are leaked, unofficial updates. Each has its own.....quirks. the only officially released ones are above the otas listed under firmware i believe. Only ics 4.0.4 are official builds.
The otas are basically patches, not full firmware. They patch existing files to update them to a newer release.
If you still want to go with the otas there are a few ways to do this.
The official way:
From full stock UVALH2 (no mods, debloating, modem must match, stock recovery, root is ok) boot into recovery and flash.
If previously rooted you can attempt to preserve root using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
Mobile Odin method (root required):
Get free Mobile Odin from xda, get full version on play store. (Full version will inject root during flash. I highly recommend this method)
Open Mobile Odin and choose OTA/Update.zip. Select the OTA you wish to flash. If pro version make sure EverRoot options are selected. Do not check wipe data, cache or dalvik. Press Flash Firmware and confirm to start the process.
CWM method (root required):
I have not fone this myself so try to confirm elsewhere the exact steps. Using latest cwm recovery, flash ota file and when asked do not flash recovery. When flashing is complete then flash a cwm flashable version of SuperSu/Superuser. Reboot.
After flashing any ota check for these files and if present delete or rename them. They rewrite stock recovery every boot.
/system/recovery-from-boot.p
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh
Thats it! If i missed anything please let me know, particularly with cwm method. Thx
Alternatively you can just flash a rom in dev section based on these otas.
Hope that helps! Good luck!
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So im on stock rooted and lets say i get the update but im rooted do i need to unroot to proceed ??.. or i can do it whit root? Cant wait for some jellybean goodies
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Root should be fine. Its the custom recovery that'll prevent you from even being able to get the update.
You will lose root though unless you use voodoo rootkeeper or mobile odin pro.
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Root should be fine. Its the custom recovery that'll prevent you from even being able to get the update.
You will lose root though unless you use voodoo rootkeeper or mobile odin pro.
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Okay so how do i take off cwm and go back to stock recovery for the update ?
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Flah stock recovery through odin or flah stock jb thourgh odin
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Flah stock recovery through odin or flah stock jb thourgh odin
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Ok so i get a stock jb firmware flash it whit odin and then can is root released for jb ? Sorry for my nooby questions..
Also i have a t999v im not sure what to flash..
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shahkam said:
Ok so i get a stock jb firmware flash it whit odin and then can is root released for jb ? Sorry for my nooby questions..
Also i have a t999v im not sure what to flash..
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Just flash the root66 firmware. Its in the thread in my sig. Its pre-rooted.
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Just flash the root66 firmware. Its in the thread in my sig. Its pre-rooted.
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Okay last time i flashed thru odin i kinda forgot the steps .. would you kindly help a newbie here ?
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Okay last time i flashed thru odin i kinda forgot the steps .. would you kindly help a newbie here ?
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Its pretty straight forward actually. There should be steps laid out in post 2 of the fw thread and I believe Theexel hasit in his thread stickied in this section.
If you have any problems let me know, but don't see a reason to retype it all again!
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Along the same lines...I just got an s3 yesterday and rooted stock 4.0.4. Used OTA root keeper, downloaded the ota for JB and when I attempt to upstate it fails....I have stock recovery. No idea why it keeps failing. I would Odin the prerooted JB but my wife doesn't want to lose her settings she already set up. Any ideas?
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Along the same lines...I just got an s3 yesterday and rooted stock 4.0.4. Used OTA root keeper, downloaded the ota for JB and when I attempt to upstate it fails....I have stock recovery. No idea why it keeps failing. I would Odin the prerooted JB but my wife doesn't want to lose her settings she already set up. Any ideas?
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You probably have a custom recovery causing it to fail.
Regardless of how you update you will possibly lose some settings. Its recommended, but not required to do a clean update anyway. But flashing with odin should preserve your settings as well as the ota would. Once they boot up it shouldn't matter as the resulting build is the same.
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You probably have a custom recovery causing it to fail.
Regardless of how you update you will possibly lose some settings. Its recommended, but not required to do a clean update anyway. But flashing with odin should preserve your settings as well as the ota would. Once they boot up it shouldn't matter as the resulting build is the same.
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So let's say I download the flash able version of the JB stock OTA, I can flash it through stock recovery or twrp or cwm, right?
Sorry, not new to flashing ROMs at all..but normally I flash custom ROMs and don't care about losing anything, but my wife likes the touchjizz...lol
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So let's say I download the flash able version of the JB stock OTA, I can flash it through stock recovery or twrp or cwm, right?
Sorry, not new to flashing ROMs at all..but normally I flash custom ROMs and don't care about losing anything, but my wife likes the touchjizz...lol
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Touchjizz lawl.
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So let's say I download the flash able version of the JB stock OTA, I can flash it through stock recovery or twrp or cwm, right?
Sorry, not new to flashing ROMs at all..but normally I flash custom ROMs and don't care about losing anything, but my wife likes the touchjizz...lol
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Depends if you've done anything to your current build.
Cwm will flash it, but I just don't care for it. Caused probs for quite a few people.
But you have to be full stock. No mods, no deodexing, no bloat removal, no modems flashed, etc.
Then you should be able to flash it in cwm.
Its preferred you do it through stock recovery. You can use voodoo rootkeeper to preserve root.
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Ok im gonna do it whit odin i feel safer that way now i have this build (see screenshot below ) im on the fw thread and two fingers away from downloading the t999_UVDLJA it says t999 and not t999v am i safe to proceed ahead ? I really dont want a brick thanks for your help !
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it will prob lose your root
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ok i have another issue now i downloaded the correct version for my phone and i decided to flash it whit cwm recovery so what happens basicly is i select zip to flash and it says something like : assert failed getprop("ro.product.device" (status 7 ) any ideas??
I give up..
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hey guys I'm rooted and just got this update notification, what do i do? if i take it ill loose root? do i unroot and take it and reroot?
thanks
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hey guys I'm rooted and just got this update notification, what do i do? if i take it ill loose root? do i unroot and take it and reroot?
thanks
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Run.. your phone may explode at any moment.
Worse case you will have to re root the phone. Not a biggy tho.. Rooting this thing is exceptionally easy.
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hey guys I'm rooted and just got this update notification, what do i do? if i take it ill loose root? do i unroot and take it and reroot?
thanks
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That's your JB OTA. You can accept and it will install (if you have a stock recovery), or fail (if a custom recovery). If on stock recovery, you will loose root, but can just root again. If on custom recovery, nothing will happen, but you'll continue to receive the notification until you either have a build.prop that matches the latest base, or flash a ROM based on the latest base. Which is my recommendation. Browse the options available in the Android Development thread, choose one of the LJ7 ROMs, flash, and be happy!
ROM - Odexed Blue JB "Holy Grail" LJ7
Baseband - LJ7
Kernel - Stock LJ7
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for those that needs it to flash ota update, and is currently on MC2 firmware.
enjoy !!!
Thank you pb......
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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Well, if you're feeling up to it, you could test it for the rest of us. No one seems to have reported back about anything yet. I'm sure that it will break root though.
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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i didnt go back and reread it but i think thats what garwynn tried and he lost root.
This is kinda required to get the OTA, isn't it?
If I understand correctly, the OTA will fail if rooted? Or is that it will fail if CWM/TW recovery is in place?
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This is kinda required to get the OTA, isn't it?
If I understand correctly, the OTA will fail if rooted? Or is that it will fail if CWM/TW recovery is in place?
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It will fail if you have cwm or twrp in place.....you need the stock recovery for it.....I think it will work even if you have root, but your root will be lost once you update
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It will fail if you have cwm or twrp in place.....you need the stock recovery for it.....I think it will work even if you have root, but your root will be lost once you update
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Thanks.. I thought it was one of those, just couldn't remember which. I may just hold off until I see what others are doing. I am going to look for a nice TouchWiz ROM that allows me to theme it.
Once the awesome Devs here at XDA get their hands on the code, it won't be long before we have a rootable Stock 4.3..
I've been wondering.
Do I need a stock recovery and a stock ROM to update or can I be running a custom ROM such as digiblur and update using stock recovery?
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I've been wondering.
Do I need a stock recovery and a stock ROM to update or can I be running a custom ROM such as digiblur and update using stock recovery?
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I'd just throw that under the "do not attempt" category. Odds are that while trying to apply the update, stock recovery would detect some assets that don't belong in your current build and abort the update. Also, if this update was successful and something messed up, you would now have no custom recovery. You would have to Odin back to whatever software version possible.
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Does anyone have the stock MK4 recovery pulled? If any one has please help a brother out.
do you flash this with twrp or odin? yes i am a newb. i have stock mc2 with twrp not rooted.
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do you flash this with twrp or odin? yes i am a newb. i have stock mc2 with twrp not rooted.
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twrp.....
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