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Alright guys got a really weird issue and I would like to know if anyone has had this problem before. So I was at the gym for about 2 and a half hours tonight,and I left my phone out in my car. I live in the midwest so temps are starting to get pretty low. About 30 here tonight. Anyways I came back out when I was done and my phone would not turn on. When I plugged it in it showed no led. So after about 45 min I pulled out my battery and popped it back in and magically my phone came back on. I flashed the new ziggy kernel last night and I use os monitor to keep it set to smartass but I don't know why this happened? I guess im just puzzled is there an issue with the battery in really cold weather or did the kernel cause it? If you guys could give me some input I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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I'm thinking its the battery since it is well known that batteries underperform under low temperatures.
Same Here...
I live in NYC, making a long story short...i left my phone exposed to the cold for a few hours and when i came back my phone wouldnt turn on either... no light, no charge, and after a bit in m pocket poof just started to work... I mean i know Everything has a Cold/hot temp, limit i think iPods are around 20 something degrees,,, i wasnt aware of the evo until now...
DarKEvo25 said:
I live in NYC, making a long story short...i left my phone exposed to the cold for a few hours and when i came back my phone wouldnt turn on either... no light, no charge, and after a bit in m pocket poof just started to work... I mean i know Everything has a Cold/hot temp, limit i think iPods are around 20 something degrees,,, i wasnt aware of the evo until now...
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Thanks for sharing sir. It makes me feel a bit better that was my thought but I didn't know for sure ill have to research the battery itself and see what temp it can handle
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Just overvolt it I wonder if we can do that via an app, AFAIK it requires a kernel level change
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Just overvolt it I wonder if we can do that via an app, AFAIK it requires a kernel level change
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Well I am undervolting with ziggys new kernel and didn't seem to help. I think the battery is just a battery period. The cells go crazy at 32 degrees.
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It's fairly well known that batteries don't do well in cold (thus why you see in car battery commercials "specially made to handle cold weather", etc. etc.) so that could be an explanation.
On a side note, LCD's don't do well either (think about it, Liquid Crystal Display). If you want an example, go in to Best Buy or something just after they open, while the building is still cold, and check out the LCD TV's; they'll all be lagging and fuzzy pictures.
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Well I am undervolting with ziggys new kernel and didn't seem to help. I think the battery is just a battery period. The cells go crazy at 32 degrees.
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I said overvolt not under. It would make it run hotter, so the temps wouldn't affect it so much. Put it in an inside jacket pocket, that tends to get my phone pretty hot on its own.
I live in Virginia and occasionally leave my phone on my car. Temperatures have been in the teens and single digits lately. No problems so far, but I'll probably be more cautious now. Hope it doesn't affect my battery in the long run.
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I said overvolt not under. It would make it run hotter, so the temps wouldn't affect it so much. Put it in an inside jacket pocket, that tends to get my phone pretty hot on its own.
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Thats my fault, read your post quickly last night and didn't pay too much attention I guess I just saw "volt". Overvolt would not be a choice of mine though I would rather not risk frying my phone.
So I just got the Galaxy Nexus (upgraded from the Nexus S) and just after the first day of use (no heavy workload, wifi or GPS) this thing became painfully hot. We're talking touch it to your skin and *ouch* hot. Strangely the massive heat output seems to be limited to just the top quarter of the device. Also note that it takes only about 10min until it reaches 'unusable' status.
Does anyone else have experience with this problem? Admittedly I was warned by the provider I got it from that they had had feedback from customers about it's excessive heat output and other people I know have also commented to the same affect. But I never thought it would be quite this bad. I could fry an egg on this thing. Considering my Nexus S never had this issue - this is disappointing. Are we talking hardware design fail? Or perhaps a bad batch in my country?
If this was an iPhone they'd be headlines going on about 'heat-gate' and Larry Page coming out saying that we're 'cooling it wrong' lol
the nexus does get abit hot around the camera area, but it shouldnt be THAT hot lol.. what are the ambient tempreatures around where you're using the phone?
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the nexus does get abit hot around the camera area, but it shouldnt be THAT hot lol.. what are the ambient tempreatures around where you're using the phone?
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Not that hot - maybe 20-25c
Perhaps monitor battery temp with an app, it won't give you a precise indication of your processor temp, but there should be a correlation. The phone does get warm around the camera area, but never painfully so (for me). Was your AOS usage abnormally high?
I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there
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I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there
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I used by SGSII in northern Ethiopia (Dallol), air temp was 56C, it didn't like it
KiNG OMaR said:
I think the OP is overreacting just a little, if it burned you then the phone would have melted
Anyways, its perfectly normal. the OMAP4 chipset runs really hot, I read somewhere that it operates normally between 85-105 degrees Fahrenheit.
Here it says that the OMAP4 platform has a temperature range of -40° to 85°C. I think thats overstating it, but its all there
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Well let me put it this way. It's hot enough for me to consider claiming on warranty. No phone should generate that much heat right next to your head/ear. That's unusable in real terms (at least with this particular one). And i've had my fair share of android phones in the past to compare...
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Well let me put it this way. It's hot enough for me to consider claiming on warranty. No phone should generate that much heat right next to your head/ear. That's unusable in real terms (at least with this particular one). And i've had my fair share of android phones in the past to compare...
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The Tegra2 chipset runs VERY hot when overclocked as well, I've had hot experiences on both my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and my G2x, and I can also say that the OMAP4 runs hotter than that! Just offering opinion is all, it's perfectly normal for it to be running extra hot, and it happens fairly quickly.
I completely agree with you that the phone does get abnormally hot, but then again, from my experience, so does the RAZR with a sister chip in it.
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So I just got the Galaxy Nexus (upgraded from the Nexus S) and just after the first day of use (no heavy workload, wifi or GPS) this thing became painfully hot.
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Android 4.0.1, stock Nexus Galaxy, going on 2 weeks. It's in an otterbox defender case, after 1.5 hours of running video it's warm in my hands, but that's under constant workload that nearly drained the whole battery. In other words during normal operation I am not finding the serious problem you are describing. Empathy out to you.
What temps we're talking about? Mine stays at +36C +38C while browsing web/watching youtube and gets a bit (around +41C) hotter when playing games. And these temps are far from hot-to-touch.
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Sometimes my GN becomes really hot too. It also happens when i'm watching hd video for a half an hour or more. Then it turns terribly hot.
mine goes to 48C and then it starts lagging like hell
Mine gets warm around the camera and earpiece. It's pretty normal, I'd say.
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There are multiple threads on this, but I'll say what I've said before: it's a dual core device, it runs hot, it's not "overheating" unless your phone is crashing, shutting down, or otherwise obviously malfunctioning in some way other than getting hot.
What do you mean by "it reaches 'unusable' status" though? Are you just afraid of using it because it seems hot? Mine gets quite hot when I use it heavily...have kept it going for several hours in this state (while plugged in) with no other issues.
Mine gets hot in the same area, but it has never been that hot, just warm. My OG Droid was OCd to 1.3ghz and that literally reached 150+ degrees F quite a few times and is still fine to this day. The OMAP SoCs seem to run a bit hotter than others, but they can definitely handle the heat.
lilirose said:
There are multiple threads on this, but I'll say what I've said before: it's a dual core device, it runs hot, it's not "overheating" unless your phone is crashing, shutting down, or otherwise obviously malfunctioning in some way other than getting hot.
What do you mean by "it reaches 'unusable' status" though? Are you just afraid of using it because it seems hot? Mine gets quite hot when I use it heavily...have kept it going for several hours in this state (while plugged in) with no other issues.
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Basically out of the many smart phones i've had in the past. This is the first that I would say I would refuse to hold it up next to my ear due to the excessive heat. It's bad enough just holding it landscape to type on let alone sticking next to my head. It's really annoying considering how otherwise the interface and physical design of the device is better then anything else i've seen on the market.
I think i'm going to get one of those laser thermometers to find just what the temp on the surface of this thing actually is.
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Basically out of the many smart phones i've had in the past. This is the first that I would say I would refuse to hold it up next to my ear due to the excessive heat. It's bad enough just holding it landscape to type on let alone sticking next to my head. It's really annoying considering how otherwise the interface and physical design of the device is better then anything else i've seen on the market.
I think i'm going to get one of those laser thermometers to find just what the temp on the surface of this thing actually is.
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It's hot on the back of the phone like other uses have said, not the front where your ear would be (unless it is which is an entirely different problem). Plus, when your phone reaches those temps through extraneous use (videos, games), you normally wouldn't be putting it near your ear anyways. I don't see this as a huge issue. If you do something taxing, much like a computer, expect the phone to work a little bit harder and hotter.
Oh and I doubt it's hot enough to fry an egg. You would smell the plastic melt first.
I've had once when my GNex was really hot. It was when I try factory reset many times since there was a bug that factory reset does nothing in a custom rom. But I didn't know at that time. I tried reset, flash rom, reset, etc. My GNes ended up really hot.
The only time my galaxy nexus got really hot was when I was switching kernels every 2-3 days, and one kernel (I think it was one of Franco's earlier builds) made it run hot even when I wasn't using the phone that intensely. Changed the kernel, and it's never been hot since (I play games, listen to music, browse web, push notifications, etc.) I don't do much video/HD streaming though...
I have been getting that too. Around the earpiece gets warm when only slightly used. Also, I can hear a faint buzzing humming sound from there. Open the back cover..can hear it from the camera too. Is something wrong with my phone
This thing gets hot. I've had an HTC Hero, LG Optimus, and HTC Evo 4G before (all on Sprint) and none of them got hot unless I was charging it and talking on the phone.
But this Nitro gets hot after just a minute of browsing the internet, or even just playing with the settings (ie not using the radio). It's not the battery getting hot either. It's up on top of the phone around the camera. I have no idea what's causing it.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Yeah.. that happens to all of us. Under-volting helps a bit.
Welcome to the hell that is the Nitro's constant overheating!
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.
JINXR said:
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.
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Depending on how new your phone is, if you can still return it I would honestly suggest doing that. This phone WAS good when it was first released, but the other offerings on the market now (HTC one X, galaxy S 3, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus) blow it away.
The screen is awesome, but you can't only base a phone's performance on it's screen quality.
One X is beast
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Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.
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The bodyglove will get hot as well. Only happens to mine once in a while when I'm using it heavily.
It's a software issue I believe. If after using ur browser of the Facebook app and hit home then open the stock application manager u will see the browser can use up to 28% and Facebook spiking to 70% CPU usage and since the small logic board holding the core CPU is at the top of the phone it can cause the overheating in that area
hereric said:
Depending on how new your phone is, if you can still return it I would honestly suggest doing that. This phone WAS good when it was first released, but the other offerings on the market now (HTC one X, galaxy S 3, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus) blow it away.
The screen is awesome, but you can't only base a phone's performance on it's screen quality.
One X is beast
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It's my work phone, and I don't think any of those better phones would cost the same amount. I had to pull all kinds of strings just to get into an Android. I can't be any more of a PITA and exchange it now.
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It's a software issue I believe. If after using ur browser of the Facebook app and hit home then open the stock application manager u will see the browser can use up to 28% and Facebook spiking to 70% CPU usage and since the small logic board holding the core CPU is at the top of the phone it can cause the overheating in that area
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Gotcha.
Does anyone know if CM9 fixes this? Or maybe the ICS update will?
The phone will always get hot if you are heavily using the CPU, regardless of what ROM you're using. That is considered normal. It doesn't mean your phone or ROM is defective UNLESS your phone is rebooting when it gets too hot (i.e., it's overheating).
The Nitro is just designed with a CPU that gets hotter than most.
mine doesn't get hot. warm yes. hot, not in the slightest.
Mine starts to get hot after about 10 minutes on a voice call. After about 20 minutes I have to go to speaker phone because it's just uncomfortable to have next to my ear. I'm hoping that this is a software issue and that it gets resolved with the official ICS release.
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my lg lu6200 also gets very hot while playing games but stays at normal temperature while internet browsing
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The phone will always get hot if you are heavily using the CPU, regardless of what ROM you're using. That is considered normal. It doesn't mean your phone or ROM is defective UNLESS your phone is rebooting when it gets too hot (i.e., it's overheating).
The Nitro is just designed with a CPU that gets hotter than most.
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? snapdragon is in alot of phones wtf are u talking about.
mine only got "hot" one time, when i left it in the direct sunlight in the car with the windows up and was shopping for 30 min or so, when i came back it was hot, i left it on mistake.
other than that i've only had it very warm a few times, when charging while doing heavy usage, this is because your battery gets real hot, you can get widgets that give you the temperature of your battery, which is more likely to overheat than your cpu, unless your cpu is overclocked too much.
if your phone is getting warm brand new, your battery is getting broken in, don't panic, keep an eye on it though and it should break in over time. my battery got warm alot faster when it was new, and it didn't get as much lifespan as it does now, as far as i know this is normal.
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? snapdragon is in alot of phones wtf are u talking about.
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my lg lu6200 also gets very hot while playing games but stays at normal temperature while internet browsing
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congrats your were arguing on something posted year ago..!:good:
Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!
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Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!
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If you are rooted you might want to try a different kernel and maybe SetCPU. I had some overheating/temp issues a while back and after I lowered my CPU a bit and set it to an Ondemand state with a profile for screen off running CPU very low when not actively in use it seemed to fix the problem.. Btw SetCPU is free for XDA users, there is a thread somewhere in the Android Hacking Apps forum..
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Edit: I thought it was free to xda users, I checked and cant find the thread, maybe I was wrong or they changed it..
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I'm on the stock kernal, I was on the modified 1.7ghz kernal before i believe, as I could overclock over that, but i just recently stopped that and went back to stock. I was and still am expecting the phone to malfunction on me sometime soon lol. It's been a really reliable phone so far! My G1 and Mytouch 3G slide (gf's phone) took soo many dumps on me while I used it. Each of those phones were probably sent back 5-8 times and they were kept completely stock for a while!
Back on subject though. Any kernals that go well with the factory rom? I don't favor any aftermarket roms right now as they're not stable enough for my usage IMO.
I have heat problems but I've always had the stock kernel...
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Undervolt at the stock clock if you want to lower temps. However, charging will always increase heat especially if you are using the phone at the same time, and depending on ambient temps.
Dude my moms sgsII literally got fried because it heated up once. She was using her phone normally and all of a sudden it started heating up. She kept using it and the next day the phone won't turn on, charge or get into download mode. It looked like what a hard brick would look like. So I just returned it for a HTC one S.
Btw she was on full stock.
My phone heats up a lot because I'm down south with 90-95 degree temps and I keep phone in the car dock by the windshield but it never failed on me.
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I thought it was a well fixable issue. Guess not? lol... Either way, everytime my batt temps rise, i notice i get 40-45C and i start to get worried. So if i'm in a car, i'd just put it next to the AC vent while the car's running and temps get down to about 25C and i'm good again. I just don't feel comfortable with the phone anymore like I use to. It never did this before, why now??
I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
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Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.
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I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
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Are you sure I shouldn't worry? I mean, I don't want solder points falling off due to too high of a temp. Then again these temps don't even reach 100C yet. I've got the same app too probably, it's a battery monitor that tells u when the phone gets too hot. mine's goes off everytime i'm around 40+
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Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.
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Yep, I use GPS and often. It's just so much easier than guessing your way off a piece of paper. But yeah, like you the phone gets soo hottttttt. I have to always put the phone to my AC vent.
It's normal to a point.
These are serious computers we have.
Think of the old P486's back in the day, those things needed huge heat sinks and some even had fans
our phones which is what, 4x the cpu power and not only no heat sink but everything is squished together inbetween a hot screen and a hot battery
That being said, I use a program called A-see, which is to watch my security cameras while out.
And if I forget to close it out (Actually exit the program) It will keep running and running and eventually probably fry my phone
lets put it this way, I will actually start to feel it in my jeans pocket, it gets that hot.
Also I have a program which will alert me if my phone gets to 130 degrees F
And will automatically shut the phone down if it gets to 140
overheat protection or something
I had this issue where whenever I try to charge my phone it would overheat to the point unbearable to touch I went back to stock flash different roms in the end i exchanged it it was still under warranty
The top portion of my phone gets headed up. I am facing this problem from last one week.
Initially my phone used to stay cool even if I played games for hours. But now the top portion gets heated in just 5-10 mins if I play games.
Is this normal??
How hot it is?
since you said it did not heat up before this it's probably an issue you have to solve.
since the day I started using Samsung phones I never experienced during games.Only when charging
Contact Samsung and see what's their view on this.
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The battery dosnt feel hot upon touching and the battery temperature is around 36 C. But the top portion of the screen becomes pretty hot.
tarunsoni said:
The battery dosnt feel hot upon touching and the battery temperature is around 36 C. But the top portion of the screen becomes pretty hot.
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The processor is probably located at the upper part of the phone.
After some time playing games my top part is getting a bit warm. My temperature is not that bad, nothing to worry about.
Stuffing a quad core (!) processor into a several mm thin phone will cause heat. Nothing to see here, just doing it's job.
Not experienced heating issue at all, the might be faulty.
I have had 2 not had this proble might be worth getting replacement.
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Not experienced heating issue at all, the might be faulty.
I have had 2 not had this proble might be worth getting replacement.
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If it gets hot without doing anything, only then it can be faulty or else while using it hard is understand able. My s2 used to get hot from top, s3 from bottom and now note 2 from top while playing hd games. Not a concern for me as it gets back to normal very soon
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If it gets hot without doing anything, only then it can be faulty or else while using it hard is understand able. My s2 used to get hot from top, s3 from bottom and now note 2 from top while playing hd games. Not a concern for me as it gets back to normal very soon
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I suppose it depends on the severity of heat and what apps or functions are running. If it's gaming for long periods then perhaps phone may get heated but like I said I haven't experienced this myself.
The only time I've noticed my phone get hot is when it's been in my trouser pocket...but then that's a pretty hot region anyway. :laugh:
I switched off quick glance about an hour ago. The dim red light of the sensor has turned off now. Played a game for about half an hour with no heating problem.
I think it was the quick glance which was causing the problem. I also removed open s voice via home key.
Can someone please confirm whether quick glance can cause this problem.
36º it's a very usual temperature, it's not dangerous. If you want, you can downclock your CPU for a lower temperature.
are you using the original charger? or original battery?
Yes I am using original battery and charger. Now the temperature stays around 32 C while playing games.
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I was playing zombiewood and my note 2 was peaking at 37c.
I think it was starting to affect the game a bit as the left joystick over the hot part would sometimes get unresponsive. Might be coincidence tho.
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What's the average temperature of note 2 ?
Mine stays around 32.
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It really depends.
What temperature? My CPU temp stays at 42 when im outside and If i surf it will turn to 47
The battery is idle at 25 and my peak is 32.
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The battery dosnt feel hot upon touching and the battery temperature is around 36 C. But the top portion of the screen becomes pretty hot.
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I have the same issue when I play heavy games the screen became hot?
My phone gets heated when gaming. All of my friends too
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My phone get hot only when i play NFS.
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My phone get hot only when i play NFS.
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the top of the screen became hot also because mine the half top of the screen became hot after platin NFS 10-15 mins?
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My phone gets heated when gaming. All of my friends too
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the top of the screen( especially the upper top half of the screen) became hot also?