Google Play Books vs Amazon Kindle - Nexus 7 Themes and Apps

I'm not too sure if this has been discussed before, however I would like to know your opinions on these two services.
Which do you prefer and use, Why?
I've got about 6 books on my Google Play account however I'm willing to use Kindle if it offers a better services, people have told me it's better, but Why?
I would really like some help on this. Thanks

I like Kindle because it leaves you an "out" should you no longer have an Android tablet. I can use the Kindle books I buy on all the Kindle devices, iPads, and Android tablets I have. But the Google Play Books are stuck on Android.
I also love the ability to send free books to your device wirelessly. For example, I frequent a site that translates foreign Light Novels (that will NEVER be released in English). I can download the books in any format, put it through "Calibre" on my PC to effortlessly convert into a Kindle .mobi file, and either use the "Send to Kindle" PC program or just attach the file to an email and send it to my @kindle email address.
The only thing I wish the Kindle app had is the stupid Page turn animation. Google Play Books does and, while pointless, it is just nice to look at.

You can do all that with Google Play books, that why
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You can do all of that with Google Play Books. They also have an iOS app, or you can go to the books information page on Google Play and download it in either an epub or PDF.
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CJHolderUK said:
You can do all of that with Google Play Books. They also have an iOS app, or you can go to the books information page on Google Play and download it in either an epub or PDF.
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They do? Huh, scratch what I said then.
I guess it's ecosystem then. The few books I have comparison shopped for have been about a dollar cheaper on Amazon, but the draw will be which ecosystem you want to be invested in.
I find Amazon's collection to be a bit larger than Google's, but it seems like it's up to you.
Edit- They updated the Google Books app to allow you to read/import non Google epubs? Last I had heard they limited you to Play Store purchases and that's it.

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They do? Huh, scratch what I said then.
I guess it's ecosystem then. The few books I have comparison shopped for have been about a dollar cheaper on Amazon, but the draw will be which ecosystem you want to be invested in.
I find Amazon's collection to be a bit larger than Google's, but it seems like it's up to you.
Edit- They updated the Google Books app to allow you to read/import non Google epubs? Last I had heard they limited you to Play Store purchases and that's it.
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Sorry for the confusion, you can't read books bought elsewhere through Google Play app, you can download books purchased through Google Play and read them on other readers, . Thanks for your help, I prefer all my stuff in one place under my e-mail, so Play Books it is for me. The difference doesn't seem to be massive so whatever people choose I'm sure they'll be satisfied. It just isn't worth it ATM, not with Play Books recent update adding maps, translation, and dictionary to their app.
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I am liking Google Books, but I don't like that I can't import my own non-market files, is there no way to do this?
If not what is the next best reader to use for own files? I need to read several long pdfs that I'd rather not print on paper to read once, as well as reading ebooks, any advice?

Moon reader pro is a excellent reader & imo the best out there. the app handles all formats and even has page turning animations like play books.
i'm actually using it right now reading a jeffery deaver book called cold moon.

XDA_Diomedes said:
I am liking Google Books, but I don't like that I can't import my own non-market files, is there no way to do this?
If not what is the next best reader to use for own files? I need to read several long pdfs that I'd rather not print on paper to read once, as well as reading ebooks, any advice?
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Experience from someone who reads entirely too many books.
Aldiko seems to be the best ebook app on the market that is not integrated into a particular store like Kindle and Play Books. You can buy books from any number of independent stores directly into the app, and also load any Adobe DRM you own or non DRM book into it. As long as they are EPUB or PDF, or other files if you use Calibre to convert. Calibre is a pretty good converter, I was using it to get non-DRM books into my Kindle and it works well most of the time although some have some strange formatting defects, some of which make the book unreadable.
Bluefire reader is another, I like the interface better than Aldiko for mostly aesthetic reasons, but it doesn't have any dictionary function. It is an iPhone app recently come to Android.
If you are reading all free books I guess the different stores don't matter, but if you pay for at least some of your books than price might be a major concern. I recently compared about 25 books between Kindle, Google Play, and an independent store called BooksOnBoard (one of the in app stores available within both Aldiko and Bluefire). Some non-fiction, some new fiction, and some slightly older books (10 yo or so). 12 of these books had the price fixed by the publisher and their price was the same in all stores. Two were significantly cheaper from the Kindle store, 6 were much, much cheaper from BooksOnBoard. Kindle also had two that were free for me to read because I have Amazon Prime. Google Play was easily the most expensive of the stores. BooksOnBoard also has some good deals on package deals, generally all or part of a series bought together.
To sum up, I think that using Aldiko and buying from BooksOnBoard is your best bet on getting your books cheaper, and the app does everything you need it to. If you can't find the book you want you will probably have to go to the Kindle store and their vastly larger library of books. Using the Play Store for your books will end up costing you quite a bit if you read as much as I do, but it also probably the easiest of them to use. The Kindle store is not Android friendly, it sends you to the Amazon website in the browser to buy books, rather than the easy in app experience one gets if they are using an actual Kindle reader.
For those who like science-fiction check out baenebooks.com for great prices and make sure to check out their free library. All ebooks sold there are non-DRM and thus problem free opening them from other apps.

Cubeology said:
Experience from someone who reads entirely too many books.
Aldiko seems to be the best ebook app on the market that is not integrated into a particular store like Kindle and Play Books. You can buy books from any number of independent stores directly into the app, and also load any Adobe DRM you own or non DRM book into it. As long as they are EPUB or PDF, or other files if you use Calibre to convert. Calibre is a pretty good converter, I was using it to get non-DRM books into my Kindle and it works well most of the time although some have some strange formatting defects, some of which make the book unreadable.
Bluefire reader is another, I like the interface better than Aldiko for mostly aesthetic reasons, but it doesn't have any dictionary function. It is an iPhone app recently come to Android.
If you are reading all free books I guess the different stores don't matter, but if you pay for at least some of your books than price might be a major concern. I recently compared about 25 books between Kindle, Google Play, and an independent store called BooksOnBoard (one of the in app stores available within both Aldiko and Bluefire). Some non-fiction, some new fiction, and some slightly older books (10 yo or so). 12 of these books had the price fixed by the publisher and their price was the same in all stores. Two were significantly cheaper from the Kindle store, 6 were much, much cheaper from BooksOnBoard. Kindle also had two that were free for me to read because I have Amazon Prime. Google Play was easily the most expensive of the stores. BooksOnBoard also has some good deals on package deals, generally all or part of a series bought together.
To sum up, I think that using Aldiko and buying from BooksOnBoard is your best bet on getting your books cheaper, and the app does everything you need it to. If you can't find the book you want you will probably have to go to the Kindle store and their vastly larger library of books. Using the Play Store for your books will end up costing you quite a bit if you read as much as I do, but it also probably the easiest of them to use. The Kindle store is not Android friendly, it sends you to the Amazon website in the browser to buy books, rather than the easy in app experience one gets if they are using an actual Kindle reader.
For those who like science-fiction check out baenebooks.com for great prices and make sure to check out their free library. All ebooks sold there are non-DRM and thus problem free opening them from other apps.
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Thanks for the very informative post, its made me think twice about where I buy, only one thing I have to pick at. Google Play, unless falsy advertised, has a much larger library of books, at 4 million, Amazon's kindle only advertises "just over a million".
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One more thing, if you travel, the kindle (and I guess other alternatives) app lets you buy books no matter what IP address you are connected to. When I was on holiday in Portugal last week I needed to buy another book to read but google refused to let me because Portugal doesn't have books yet - downloaded the kindle app and bought what I wanted.
Guess whose ecosystem now has my custom...

CJHolderUK said:
Thanks for the very informative post, its made me think twice about where I buy, only one thing I have to pick at. Google Play, unless falsy advertised, has a much larger library of books, at 4 million, Amazon's kindle only advertises "just over a million".
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The size of the selection at both Google Play and Amazon is huge; I don't really care which is larger and who knows how they are calculating that figure. What it comes down to is do they have the books you are personally looking for. Google doesn't carry the book Zodiac by Neal Stephenson while it is available at both Amazon and BooksOnBoard. I thought they didn't have a serial novel by many top sf writers that comes out in installments but it turns out, strangely, that there is a separate app for that, an android app just for reading that particular serial novel (for free). While it comes to Kindle in a more traditional format and is free to Amazon Prime (a paid service-so not really free). Conversely there exist some textbooks that are available only through Google and are not available from any other source (I don't remember any specific titles). Strangely you won't find any books by the great literary writer Daphne du Maurier (wrote Rebecca among others) in any ebook store.
Personally I came to Android with a library of Kindle ebooks on my Kindle (hardware) so I have a slight leaning in that direction. I look to BooksOnBoard for those books that are cheaper there, often about $2 less for a novel without a fixed price by the publisher and use Aldiko reader. I use both Kindle and Aldiko regularly. If and when I find I can't find one from those two I will have no problem looking for them in Google Play. That is the beauty of the Nexus 7, you are not obligated to buy from only one source and you can use as many different ebook stores and apps as you like.

I'll have to look into BooksOnBoard, haven't seen it yet. It appears to me the only way to be completely satisfied is use all of them lol, I'll continue to use Play Books, I'm not too bothered about the price. I wont use Amazon because of what they do to android, they take advantage of it, Google Pays developers to develop it in hope OEMs will use it and pay licencing fees for Maps, Play Store, Music etc, then Amazon just skin it and throw their own services on it. Not really fair is it?

Also, I would thank your post for the efforts and great information... but I run out of thanks. xD

PDF reader
EZPdf Reader is the best reader I have found for reading PDF files. It allows you to highlight and annotate among a vast array of other utilities
Also there is a variety of ways you can read, including with a page flip type animation and text flow view. It isn't free - it's $4.00, but totally worth it IMO.
I'm a huge fan of the page flip animation in GPB, silly, I know.

For me it's a no brainer... Google play books is not available in Switzerland, but with kindle I have the choice to use either the German or French store.
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What is the best Google Voice app for Windows Phone?

Any suggestions for me?
I think there are only 2 of them. Download the free one, and if you don't like it, download the paid one.
I think that the paid one is good but its probably worth trying out the free one first.
Just searched for google voice in the app store, all I found are two lowly rated paid versions, no freebies.
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Just searched for google voice in the app store, all I found are two lowly rated paid versions, no freebies.
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I only see one in the Canadian Marketplace rated 1 star
I'm working on a free app version since both of the Google Voice apps on Live are paid ones. Stay tuned, in the mean time just use the web version.
There was a free app but it was pulled because of poor reviews, mostly people not able to login.
youtube video - www youtube com/watch?v=SOBNcPwjyD0
GoVoice has been the better rated of the two, but GV for Windows phone has a trial version to see if you like it.

why didnt google just combine nexus q with google tv

What the point of having two seperate devices. I really want to get the new Google TV set box and I've been wanting to be able to stream from my tablet and phone directly to the TV for a while now. Why not just either add Google TV to the q or add the q functions to Google TV. Now I'm going to have to get the Sony Google TV set box and nexus q.
Also, side questions. Does anyone know if you can stream movies on the phone/tablet to the nexus q if its stored on the device and not Google play?
Google is going after Sonos it seems. However, the Q is strange (requires a Android phone/tablet to control it) and over priced. I really don't see a huge market for it unless they drop the price by a few hundred dollars.
Aye, for that much cash, I'd have thought it'd have more GoogleTV like features, unless this is just a Trojan Horse into the living room and those things can be added later (though without an hdmi input, that'll be interesting to see how).
No, I admit, I just don't 'get it' as a device when a GTv will do the same stuff, plus more, just without the amp. There's something missing in all this it feels like.
That's kinda what I meant, but didn't say. $300 to just stream video and music from play store is kinda stupid. $300 for Google TV that can do it= awesome
$300
Running on Galaxy Nexus hardware.
Only streams YouTube, Google Play Videos/Music.
Runs 'Android' but seems to have no real use beyond the line immediately above this one.
According to the data we have so far (that above), the Nexus Q seems to me to be a failure of Google to have any real vision if they intend to get into our living rooms. Honestly? No applications, no Netflix, nothing. Just YouTube and Google Play music/videos? That's pathetic. For $300? That's not just pathetic, that's an insult.
That is, unless Google is hiding more functionality in their sleeve. Which, if they have any intelligence at all (which we know they do), they most certainly haven't shown everything they intend to do with it yet. Although I could be wrong...give me this great looking device running on solid hardware and the full functionality of Android on my TV with my phone/tablet as a remote? Yeah, I'll spend $300 on it. Leave it as displayed so far? No thanks.
No Hulu, no Netflix, no local steaming. No buyers.
The reason for the price being $299 is due to it being 100% made in the US.
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Worth it
I think it is pretty neat personally. I own a sony google TV and wish it had some of these features, but this thing is so king for parties. I also really like the fact that it is American made. Whenever you are talking about companies like Apple getting rich off of worker suicides at foxconn.
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I think it is pretty neat personally. I own a sony google TV and wish it had some of these features, but this thing is so king for parties. I also really like the fact that it is American made. Whenever you are talking about companies like Apple getting rich off of worker suicides at foxconn.
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You sir are so right. Koush said on Google+ last night he has no use for it but will buy it solely because its made in America and gift it to someone. I commend Google for this move and will buy one too. Everyone claims to want their **** manufactured here, well prove it if so and step up and buy one, I will. That price designed, made and assembled here to me is worth it for the features it boasts.
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sirius b said:
You sir are so right. Koush said on Google+ last night he has no use for it but will buy it solely because its made in America and gift it to someone. I commend Google for this move and will buy one too. Everyone claims to want their **** manufactured here, well prove it if so and step up and buy one, I will. That price designed, made and assembled here to me is worth it for the features it boasts.
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kudos for making the device here. now all they need to do is make it a device I would want in the first place.
if the thing turns out to be less locked-down and more hackable than the google tv products, then I can see some serious potential.
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No Hulu, no Netflix, no local steaming. No buyers.
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Tell that to Sonos. Unfortunately, this is a high end market and I'm not sure how it can work given it requires a Android ecosystem.
I agree with what everyone else has said. It'd be a hard sell to make since it doesn't (as of now) have any support for third parties such as Netflix and Pandora. However, Google has encouraged "hacking" the device... so maybe they will leave such capabilities to people such as XDA devs to really put this device to use? Kind of a stretch, but it could add utility to the device without Google having to officially sign on board with third parties?
I appreciate this is manufactured here in the US but boy oh boy.
I would really like to see my Logitech Revue get revamped, even though I only paid $120 for it at Best Buy to get that and the camera I would like to see it get some updates in features. (cough cough SKYPE support)
This thing though, I could see it being nice to have on your desk or something? I don't get the connecting it to a TV thing unless you plan on using a home theater system.
We'll wait and see.
but that thing in the video where all the people are in the kitchen talking and everyones picking songs for the Nexus Q to play, that would just be irritating. No don't touch it, you can look at it. Don't change my song please. Leave it the fck alone.
I bet it's going to be a hacker's delight. If it was priced a little more sensibly, I would have bought it.
What if this turns into the next generation GoogleTV by developers? Imagine running latest version of CM on your TV? Now, that $300 isn't looking so bad after all.
You better belive some developers are drooling over this great hardware. Cyanogen said so himself on G+. Let's wait and see......
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So what I could gather from the press conference is that it's a galaxy nexus without the screen, cell capability, storage space... but a proper hdmi output and usb...
maybe if it could be hacked to run an operating system off a thumb drive? I love Google tv but the hardware is so slow and low on memory... I dunno, but the "to make it open to general hackability" statement does show promise.
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Convert ibooks to read on nexus 7?

How would I be able to do this? I have a bunch of money on itunes from my apple days and I was wondering if I could transfer a book i bought on itunes to my tablet. Ive heard of calbre but ibcould never get it to work. Any help?
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chelseainspire said:
How would I be able to do this? I have a bunch of money on itunes from my apple days and I was wondering if I could transfer a book i bought on itunes to my tablet. Ive heard of calbre but ibcould never get it to work. Any help?
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Google Apprentice Alf and you will find directions on how to install calibre plugins to deDRM books from Amazon, and epubs that use either Adobe DRM or B & N's. (And also how to deDRM using standalone scripts). I remember reading on Alf's blog that iTunes DRM had been cracked, but since I don't buy books from Apple I can't tell you how to do it. I don't think the process uses calibre plugins, though. All directions found there are clear and thorough. Good luck.
Can't find it now, but there was an article that talked about converting iTunes books which are in EPUB format using Calibre.
Do a search for it on Google.
I don't use iTunes... won't touch it, but you should be able to find an answer.
Note that Most of the articles are talking about converting to Kindle, but if you can do that, you can then do whatever format you need for Nexus.
There are different ways to remove DRM depending on the source. The Apprentice Alf method will work well for Adobe encriptions. iBooks are different I think. There is an app called Requiem that is supposed to work (google it). The last time I looked it was one or two revisions behind iTunes' drm implementation; it only worked if you were still running a slightly older version of iTunes. Downgrading does not seem to work (for music anyway). I experimented with pre-2009 iTunes DRM music imported into an older version of iTunes on a netbook and Requiem would not work because my working version of iTunes was already on the lastest version.
Given pricing and availaibility similarities across the board, I haven't found any reason to purchase books from Apple (as opposed to amazon or Kobo, for example). If you have legacy Apple purchases, you might be out of luck for now.
the only reason i bought a book from iTunes is because I got a gift card for my birthday. this has been a problem ever since i bought the book. Does anyone have step by step instructions? Ive been searching the web for days now looking for a solution.
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Like I said just above, you can try Requiem. Start here
http://gizmodo.com/requiem/
YMMV.
I tried requiem and it still didn't work. the application said the DRM was removed, but when i tried to re-format it to work with my tablet using calibre, it said it was still DRM locked.
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[Q] Anyone get Amazon Instant Video to work?

Anyone able to stream Amazon Instant Video on the Galaxy Note 8? The usual side load flash and a compatible browser isn't working.
I have tried loading four different versions of Flash for ICS as well as Dolphin Browser 8.51 which supports Flash, the stock browser, Firefox HD with the Phony extension set to Desktop and Boat Browser. None of them work. Flash 11.1 loads but once you get past loading and connecting at Amazon, all you get is a black screen. The video never starts.
I'm still within my return period on the Note 8. I may jump ship to a Nexus 7 if I can't get this to work.
Same experience for me. I've tried stock and ×Scope Pro.
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Amazon must have altered something on their side. Its no longer working on my Nexus 7 or Nexus 4 either. This just started happening within the last week or so.
Wow. I guess Amazon doesn't want our business. If they did this on purpose I am canceling Prime and won't be buying anything else from them. I can't believe they would intentionally take away the means to sell their products with a healthy margin, in order to sell a product with little to no margin (Kindle). Stupid move. Whatever. I can buy stuff from Google and Newegg and others instead.
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I wonder how long Amazon will keep the iOS app around... And if they'll ever offer the same for android users... And why they don't.
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I wonder how long Amazon will keep the iOS app around... And if they'll ever offer the same for android users... And why they don't.
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Everything worked fine until a few day ago.
The reason there is no app or official support is complicated. All of these things like Hulu+ & Amazon VOD have specific licensing agreements with greeeeedy networks. These networks messed up big time in their minds by not finding a way to restrict content on old PC, laptops & desktop PC's & now they are trying to make up for it.
Now they are trying to extort as much money in licensing from everybody they can. They want you to pay as a subscriber, they want the OEM manufacturer to pay & they want Google to pay. Now they have the chance to determine EXACTLY what type of device you are using & discriminate based on that info as a means to extort more money from everyone. If you use a tablet, you can watch SOME Hulu+ shows, if you have a PC, you can watch SOME Hulu+ shows, If you have a Hulu+ licensed device with the Hulu+ app, like a media streaming player, you can watch ALL of their shows.
SImilarly with Amazon now, if you are using a Windows PC or Tablet, you get full PC Flash support, which means you get Amazon VOD, if you have an Android device, you get nothing now, because Flash killed off support & Amazon never had official support.
Even worse, you can get Hulu on just about ANY browser in the world, unless it is a browser on a Google TV device. This is because of the licensing agreements between the middlemen like Amazon & Hulu & the greedy & scared networks, whom are losing advertising revenue because people would rather watch older shows that took thought over their current mindless, low budget reality TV. The networks think you should pay a subscription & everyone involved with a device, even a carrier if there is one, should pay licensing fees & you should be forced to watch commercials, which is why they are also suing Dish Network for their "Hopper" feature, which lets you easily hop past commercials.
There is an iOS app because there were a lot of iOS users & they are more active about complaining & petitioning people than Android users are. Technically, I think we should all be complaining about this because of the Net Neutrality Act. They are discriminating based on browser, limiting choice & options for consumers. They stream their shows to PC's, but tablets are different in their mind, just as they say streaming to a Google TV BluRay player is different than streaming to your TV from your windows PC. It is a common task, using the internet & I don't think they should be allowed to make the rules in regards to what is a PC (which stands for personal computer) & in my mind a tablet can most definitely fit into that category.
WOrse even yet, damn Amazon has made good money taking Google's hard work & forking Android, yet they crap on the Amazon customers that use true Android. Plain old browser discrimination, if you ask me.
Thanks for the well though out response.
What I still fail to understand is how Amazon can justify streaming to an Android based Kindle fire, but not to an Android tablet. This is why I have stopped my prime membership from automatically renewing. And without Prime, I will be MUCH less likely to order anything from Amazon. I can't find the business sense or logic in this decision. It seems counter productive to me.
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Amazon claims we can access Amazon Instant Video through XBMC. I will try this later when I have time. Their response to my complaint also sounds like they may be working on an app for Android? No promises or timeline, but I am definitely getting that impression(?). I've copied both their letter and my complaint below (names removed). It's a quickly thrown together complaint, not the best written, but gets the point across I think. I encourage you all to write to them as well, to indicate your interest in streaming to Android tablets. The more interest they see, the more likely for them to put effort into enabling content on Android devices.
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Hello ,
Thanks for writing to us with your query. I'll do my best to provide a thorough answer.
From your email, I've understood that you unhappy that you are not able to access Amazon Instant Videos on "Android" devices any more.
Unfortunately at this time, Amazon does not support Amazon/Prime Instant Videos on android devices.
However, customers were able to watch Amazon Instant Videos on their android devices using XBMC Player app. Amazon Instant Video utilizes the Adobe Flash Player but due to the recent changes/upgrade of the flash version made by Adobe, closed that loophole.
I also understand that having "AIV/PIV" feature on "Android" devices will provide additional convenience to our customers. However, please note that, the content we offer through Amazon Instant Video depends on our agreements with content owners. Device manufacturers has exclusive rights to the hardware and software that would not make it possible for Amazon.com to provide Amazon Instant Videos for these devices directly.
To make sure your feedback is heard by the right people in the Organization, I've forwarded your comments as a feedback to Amazon Instant Video Development Team, who will review your comments and will work on improvements to make these features better on Amazon.com
We've received many requests from the customers to release an Android app for Instant Video streaming and our development team is working on it
I also keep pushing for this feature myself. It is an important part of upcoming developments in our Amazon Instant Videos service. I appreciate that you wrote about this so that I can point out increasing demand for it. As this involves may teams and individuals, I'm unable to predict the current time-line.
It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all aspects. I appreciate that you wrote about this so that I can point out increased demand for Amazon/Prime Instant Videos on Android devices. Your valuable feedback will help us to improve the selection and service we provide and we're glad you took time to write to us. We do value the feedback of our customers and make every attempt to integrate their comments or suggestions into our stores and procedures.
Amazon Instant Video development team is regularly in touch with the manufacturers to make more devices (OR Models) compatible with Amazon/Prime Instant Videos. Devices not compatible now, may become compatible in future.
You may have noticed some major wins for our customers, now that XBox 360, iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, Wii & Wiiu became compatible recently with more to come based on customer requests. With that kind of proliferation there's a significant increase in pressure to get more devices/models added.* If there is any update it will be directly posted on our website.
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Please know that our customer's satisfaction and their convenience is very important to us above all else, it's the foundation on which our company was built.
I would've really loved to have this resolved to your benefit if only there was another way however as I hope you'd understand, we do go through certain protocols and processes to hopefully meet your needs in the best and fastest way possible.
I am very sorry that we were not able to meet your expectations this time but be assured that we always endeavor to assist our valued customer like you with the best of our service and we'll continue working hard to ensure that we provide the quality support you expect from us.
Thank you for your interest in Amazon Instant Videos. We appreciate your patience in this matter and thanks for the time you took to write to us.
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Comments:I am an Amazon Prime member. I have ordered over $8,500 purchases in the last 6 months.
I have used my Prime account for a year and a half. During this time I have accessed Prime videos on my Android based tablet. This apparently is no longer available. Therefore I have stopped my Prime membership from automatically renewing. I'm sure you are aware that the Prime membership has encouraged me to make more of my purchases from Amazon. I'm sure you will understand that without Prime, I will be shopping elsewhere.
I am aware that Amazon Instant Video can be accessed on the Kindle Fire, which is another Android tablet. Not allowing the same access on competing Android tablets is alienating your customers. It gives an impression of discriminating in favor of your own device.
I am aware that Amazon Instant Video is available on IOS tablets. I have an iPad 3. However I do not like to watch videos on a 4:3 aspect ratio device. I have Amazon Instant Video available on my TV, my Roku, and on my Vizio Co-Star Google TV device. My preferred method of streaming videos when not sitting Iin my living room is still by using my Android tablet. The perception that Amazon is discriminating against competing Android products is why I will not be renewing my Prime account, and why Amazon will lose over $10,000 worth of business per year from just this one customer.
I ask you to ask your business development department just one question;
"Was disabling content from Android devices worth losing over $10,000 per year per customer worth it? Is loosing more than $10,000 per year per customer a good strategy?"
I am aware that Amazon never did officially support Amazon Instant Video on Android tablets. However, unofficial support was enough to encourage me and doubtless others to sign up for Prime and increase their spending. The loss of this unofficial support will result in not only the loss of the new business it has created, but loss of the limited business we have had with Amazon prior to Prime membership.
If I was a stock holder, I would have to question Amazon's business strategy and future.
As a customer, I only have to choose another supplier. It is a shame. I have enjoyed many Amazon products and services over the years.
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WARNING about XBMC
Hey...be careful with installing XBMC. I did and now my system won't unlock.
I sideloaded the latest nightly of XMBC and was refreshing repository when it froze. Now I get to the lockscreen, there is an indication that "power saving mode is enabled" and it freezes within 10 seconds of unlocking/startup. May just be coincidental...
I am rooted via framaroot.apk.
EDIT: Ended up having to reboot into the stock recovery and reset the device to factory to get out the of loop. And I returned it to the store.
Thanks for the heads up, much appreciated. I will try it on an older tablet I don't mind resetting. I can't take that chance on the Note 8, I'm already heavily relying on it at work.
FYI I already tried Plex (which is similar to XBMC), but the Amazon plug in does not work. I also tried the Amazon plugin for Playon, and I can get further with that; I can see the list of categories of movies and tv shows, but I have not successfully streamed anything so far. I suspect it will not work, but I need to try some more before I give up.
PSsisterchick: wait with the purchase of the Nexus 7, Google is rumored to announce the next generation of the Nexus 7 in 3 weeks at Google I/O. It's only a rumor, but a likely one.
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Thanks for the heads up, much appreciated. I will try it on an older tablet I don't mind resetting. I can't take that chance on the Note 8, I'm already heavily relying on it at work.
FYI I already tried Plex (which is similar to XBMC), but the Amazon plug in does not work. I also tried the Amazon plugin for Playon, and I can get further with that; I can see the list of categories of movies and tv shows, but I have not successfully streamed anything so far. I suspect it will not work, but I need to try some more before I give up.
PSsisterchick: wait with the purchase of the Nexus 7, Google is rumored to announce the next generation of the Nexus 7 in 3 weeks at Google I/O. It's only a rumor, but a likely one.
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Thanks, kisirta. That's what I'm thinking too. Nightlies of CM 10.1 have just come out for my old modded Nook Color. I'll put the old girl back to work until we see what happens at Goodle I/O.
Well I can confirm that Amazon Instant Video does not work through XBMC either. In trying to install the Amazon Instant Video plugin for XBMC, I came across many, many forum posts and articles about how it used to work, but Amazon "fixed it" so it no longer works. It appears Amazon thought I was another XBMC user complaining about the access that was cut off. Since I had said nothing about XBMC, I thought they were telling me that some people were using XBMC to stream Amazon videos successfully, but it appears the reference just a cut and paste canned response to the XBMC users who previously had been streaming Amazon videos, and were complaining that they couldn't do so any more. And I actually thought Amazon was trying to do something about the loss of access. They apparently do not care. They are obviously receiving many complaints, and they can't do better than cut and paste responses aimed at a completely different group of people. I guess I had given them more credit than they deserve. No more Amazon for me. I'm thoroughly disgusted with them.
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I've been writing amazon for a long time asking for an app. I'd become accustomed to watching through the stock browser with mobile flash, but there was always a tiny loss of audio/video sync that was just bad enough to annoy that was never present when I had the old fire apk running on a Nook Tablet. I wasn't angry at the time, then they cut off browser access a few days ago, despite promising on their device page that any computer with an internet connection could access prime streaming. Well guess what, my transformer is a computer with an internet connection. Promise broken.
When I told them off for neglecting an android app and then actively and hostilely blocking perfectly capable browsers just because they were on android, they thanked me for my suggestion that android browser support be added to prime streaming :facepalm:
Puffin browser seems to work. At least it starts the video anyway. Some comments at the Nexus 7 forum indicate it is choppy, I don't know if it will play any better on our devices, I can't test it right now. But I can confirm that it is able to at least start the video.
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Interesting...curious to know if Puffin will work for you. I returned by Note 8 to the store because it was acting unstable and getting pretty hot in the process and I was within my 15-day window at Best Buy...but I miss it. I found I really liked the pen. I may have to give it another chance.
I tried it on both the Note 8 and my ancient original Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Puffin browser does stream the video, but it's choppy on both devices, though much much less so on the Note 8. The audio was badly out of synch on both devices, so much so that I only watched a few minutes of the video (Nemesis). This is not an acceptable alternative.
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I was able to stream a non HD Amazon Instant Video TV episode to the Note 8 using Playon. It is a little slow going at first and stuttered initially, but then was streaming good quality. I dont know if pause, rewind and FF work, I didnt test those. Just wanted to let everyone know there is this option. (Technicaly Puffin is another option, but it's not good enough to be worth it.) Neither app is free, but both come with a trial. You must have Playon installed and running on your PC to stream to your Android tablet.
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Install xbmc. Not only does it do amazon prime without problems, you get the benefit of much more content. Do a google search for xbmc and you will have to sideload. Enjoy...
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Install xbmc. Not only does it do amazon prime without problems, you get the benefit of much more content. Do a google search for xbmc and you will have to sideload. Enjoy...
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Just to confirm...you installed XBMC on Note 8 and streamed Amazon Instant Video? When tried a couple of weeks ago it didn't work.
Wow, I stand corrected. I just went in and tried it again in xbmc and it appears that amazon is now blocking it. Bastards... oh well, back to drawing board. Sorry for the confusion but I had it working on ipad, samsung galaxy note and appletv. Sorry for the confusion...
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I feel like the only one who likes the Fire Phone as-is

Ok, so not 100% as-is. I sideloaded Google Play for a couple apps, namely Gmail and Line. But nearly everything else I've installed has come from the Amazon store. Unlike others, I don't feel like the phone is trying to sell me stuff, but when I do want to buy something, the process is super-simple. I actually love Firefly, and I love that it's one button away, even on my locked phone. I regularly find a new product in a store and wonder about the Amazon price. Now, it's incredibly easy to check.
Granted, I got one of the 3.6.8 firesale phones, and I think that update addressed many of the early reviewers' concerns, but it really seems like a great phone for, in essence, $100 unlocked, no contract.
I actually agree. Sideloaded play store... started with buzz launcher until I actually decided I like the Fire Launcher better. This thing performance wise in antutu is seriously a tiny tic under the S5... for $100? I'm very happy.
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I'm really enjoying the phone without having it rooted and modded, which is a shock to me. Given that this replaces an HTC G2 (I know, ancient) I'm loving the capabilities as far as streaming audio and video - yes, video is much better on a tablet or my 45" tv, but it shows quite well. Having as much ram as it does available for running processes is pretty amazing for me. My only complaint is having to scroll through apps, books and audiobooks to find anything I haven't pinned to the front. I'll have to look into creating collections to make use easier. All in all, I thoroughly enjoy the phone.
ETA - the camera takes great pictures for a non photographer such as myself.
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I made the switch from a Galaxy Note II and have been an Android user since I got my first Google G1. As first I found it a little odd, but I really enjoy FireOS now (having added Google Play store for a few oddball apps). I'm actually more productive and can multitask much faster on the Fire Phone than any other Android that I've used. They have a few bugs to work out and some needed features, but not a bad start!
Same here, loving it, after Sideloaded Gapps and google now launcher (i rather have no wallpaper than use buzz launcher) overall its an amazing device for the price!
I agree. I purchased this phone for $200.00 with the one year of prime that I would have bought anyways. I'm coming from an old LG p930 that was getting slow even with Cyanogenmod installed. The battery life was awful.
This one, with update 3.6.8, is super fast, great battery life, and does a lot more than I expected. A few apps weren't there, so I side loaded them and installed the playstore. I, like most people, hate change - so was after getting an android launcher installed. I thinks this might have been the fact that i felt forced to use the Fire Launcher. I now came back to the Fire launcher, and I love it now that I have a choice. I disabled auto updates in google play as it was replacing some amazon apps that used the Fire widgets.
I really hope more apps start building for the Fire Phone as the Fire widgets are super cool, such as reading emails from the home screen, text messages, weather, etc. My only complaint right now is the fact that you cant' easily install an alternate keyboard. When I open the browser it adds the .com and makes the space bar smaller. This bugs me as I'm always either slamming it or the period instead of space when messaging or browsing. Amazon told me there has been a lot of feedback, and they design this phone to be similar to the Kindle. They assume an update will be pushed out in January that will address this, and other issues, as the Kindle allows you to change the keyboard.
Other than that, I wish I could sort my apps in the grid. Outside of those simple things, now that I can side load a few apps I used on a day to day basis, I love this thing! (I do miss Cyanogenmod from time to time though.
Mine is stock except for loading the Play Store and Play apps like Play Music, Play News Stand etc. I also use the Google Now Launcher as I like using the hands free "Okay Google" functionality to send emails and texts without touching the device. Great while driving.
Thanks for all the replies! I stand corrected!
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Thanks for all the replies! I stand corrected!
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In fairness, "as is", isn't a fair statement. Like others, I have sideloaded google apps and use the google now launcher. I find the stock launcher to be counter-intuitive (scrolling down in apps instead of sideways, and not having the apps in alphabetical order in the app drawer).
I wish I could root it and run CM11. I would rather have the same hardware without the dynamic perspective (and the extra cameras) for the same price. It's a neat "show off" feature, but it serves no actual purpose to me. I'd rather have a bigger screen in place of the 4 extra cameras.
The UI reminds me a lot of the WebOS from the HP Touchpad I had. I liked WebOS better than Android, but the app support for it was crippling. The same can be said of the Fi re Phone.
Of course, had they left it with vanilla Android, unlocked bootloader and root access, we couldn't have bought the phone for $200. The launch failure is what allowed us to get such a "deal" on the phone. If they'd given us all the features without loading all the stuff that made it Amazon-centric and breaking a lot of the apps, it wouldn't have been such a flop and they'd have sold out at a higher price. So, overall, the ONLY reason we got the phones so cheap is because of the stuff Amazon did to it.
I had a Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, and I miss the huge screen, but a functional phone with GPS and wif i that don't regularly die is what I wanted and what I received.
I really believe that a lot of the haters out there are simply looking for reasons to hate a device they've not used. They wanted to not like it and they succeeded. I wanted a cheap phone with great specs and I got just that.

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