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Not every micro usb cord is built the same...

Ive been using my OEM charger cord untill the other day it fell off my desk while charging and bent the tip. I started using another cheap 99 cent ebay cord with a blackberry logo on it and it seems like my phones never charged slower. So I installed current widget and it seems to be charging at 280MA while the OEM cord charges at 380MA. Does anyone know where I can get a new cord that charges just as good as the OEM one for cheap?

Amazon has the HTC cord identical to the one that comes with the phone for like $6. My phone charges at around 800ma with the screen off. I suggest spending the extra $5.

skittlesV1 said:
Ive been using my OEM charger cord untill the other day it fell off my desk while charging and bent the tip. I started using another cheap 99 cent ebay cord with a blackberry logo on it and it seems like my phones never charged slower. So I installed current widget and it seems to be charging at 280MA while the OEM cord charges at 380MA. Does anyone know where I can get a new cord that charges just as good as the OEM one for cheap?
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FWIW, it might be worth mentioning that your battery will actually last longer if you charge it with lower amperage. The downside to this, is that it will also take longer to charge.
In fact, your battery's overall life expectancy will also be longer using lower amperage charging.
Just thought I'd mention it.
--Chris

jdbiggles said:
Amazon has the HTC cord identical to the one that comes with the phone for like $6. My phone charges at around 800ma with the screen off. I suggest spending the extra $5.
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Do you have the link to this still? im having a hard time finding it

i am about to try a few from monoprice.com
too cheap not to try

You can buy the original charger, and cord off ebay from a guy for 10$ shipped..when i bought mine, he had 10 left.

nolig2278 said:
i am about to try a few from monoprice.com
too cheap not to try
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I use monoprice cables. Seems to work fine, although, I never tested charge speed.

did you guys get the USB charge cable with your EVO? I never got one. All I have is AC charge cable, and using my wife's moment USB Charge Cable, and works fine.

Typical Micro USB cables (like those from monoprice.com, awesome btw) don't charge my for-work Blackberry Curve.
Go figure. I hate Blackberries.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that micro usb cable that came with your evo can be plugged into a usb port or the wall charger itself, and it can even be plugged into a car charger hat accepts usb cables.
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potna said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but that micro usb cable that came with your evo can be plugged into a usb port or the wall charger itself, and it can even be plugged into a car charger hat accepts usb cables.
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I'm doing this now, charging my phone from my car charger that accepts USB cables. It charges REALLY slow however, I'll check to see at what amperage.

potna said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but that micro usb cable that came with your evo can be plugged into a usb port or the wall charger itself, and it can even be plugged into a car charger hat accepts usb cables.
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No reason to correct you - you are absolutely correct on all counts.
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[Q] Long USB Cable

Anyone found a long (around 6') usb cable that charges at a good rate? Need it to run a cable in my dash to power my car dock. The standard one is going to be too short and it seems like there's a handful of crud ones out there, done some searching but haven't come up with much yet.
Thanks

dont know if im allowed to say this, but monoprice has them in 6 ft and 10 ft, i was looking for one also!

thanks I'll check em out, been lookin for reviews on the charging quality, seems a lot charge just as fast as the battery is discharged

TheSlyWolf said:
thanks I'll check em out, been lookin for reviews on the charging quality, seems a lot charge just as fast as the battery is discharged
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I could be mistaken, but I think that's just a consequence of charging over usb which doesn't output a very strong current compared to the wall or your car.
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I ordered a couple of 6' from monoprice that should be here any day.

I use a USB extender that I got from an old usb network card.

I have a couple of usb extension cables but I think they're interfering with my signal. For some odd reason I get network errors if I use them to charge. Might just be coincidence though.
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Could be a coincidence, I'm not really referring to charging whith a computer. I ment using the cable with a usb wall or car adapter. Also it's a given you charge faster when plugged into the car though, dc vs ac current.
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I actually bought a 10' one from microcenter.. try your local geeked out PC place.

TheSlyWolf said:
Anyone found a long (around 6') usb cable that charges at a good rate? Need it to run a cable in my dash to power my car dock. The standard one is going to be too short and it seems like there's a handful of crud ones out there, done some searching but haven't come up with much yet.
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monoprice.com

Droopie28 said:
dont know if im allowed to say this, but monoprice has them in 6 ft and 10 ft, i was looking for one also!
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MonoPrice is where I get all my cables for my Androids. They are amazing quality, much better than the one that it came with. You can also get them upward of 16 feet, which is what I have so I can play with it while in bed

heh 6' would probably do it for me, might get a 10' just in case, im in the process of fiberglassin powered usb ports into my car dash, ill probably leave in behind the dash to hook up the car dock and keep it clean

I've had bad experiences with micro usb cables longer than 5 feet. The First was with my head unit in my car. When I would plug it in, the signal would spontaneously drop. I exchanged it with a 3 foot one of the same gauge, and I haven't lost signal yet.
Same issue happened when I plugged it into my desktop with an identical cable. I was told that there wasn't enough juice to both charge and transfer data.
Those monoprice cables, has anybody else had good experiences with them?

Droopie28 said:
dont know if im allowed to say this, but monoprice has them in 6 ft and 10 ft, i was looking for one also!
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That's where I but all my cables from, Monoprice.

well just got my cables from monoprice, i got 6' as well as 10', figured the 15 is overkill for anything i need. So far the seem to be working well for wall and car charging, as well as pc syncing.

The charging current is controlled by the source and not the cable, correct? So if I replaced the wall charger that came with the phone witha 10' cable it would work fine, right? It's just a bit too short to both charge my phone and be in reach of my bed currently

Sirjacksinurbox said:
I've had bad experiences with micro usb cables longer than 5 feet. The First was with my head unit in my car. When I would plug it in, the signal would spontaneously drop. I exchanged it with a 3 foot one of the same gauge, and I haven't lost signal yet.
Same issue happened when I plugged it into my desktop with an identical cable. I was told that there wasn't enough juice to both charge and transfer data.
Those monoprice cables, has anybody else had good experiences with them?
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Russ36363 said:
The charging current is controlled by the source and not the cable, correct? So if I replaced the wall charger that came with the phone witha 10' cable it would work fine, right? It's just a bit too short to both charge my phone and be in reach of my bed currently
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I'm curious about this too. I need a charger that's longer than 2 feet.
Anyone buy any chargers and are happy with em.

shug24 said:
monoprice.com
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And that should close the thread.
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Jodiuh said:
I'm curious about this too. I need a charger that's longer than 2 feet.
Anyone buy any chargers and are happy with em.
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I would say it depends on the quality of the cable as well, crappy cable = bad charging, but so far the monoprice cables seem pretty solid. I'm happy with the results, though I wish i got a 15' just to test it out. I got 6 cables and all are in working order.
Also as the above comment state thread closed I would agree, monoprice is good, and was exactly what I was looking for.

nvm. nvm. nvm.

Car charger that charges at wall charger speeds?

Any car chargers that anyone could point me to that charges as fast as a wall charger?
As it is right now, unless I have my screen off and no apps running it drains faster than the charger can put juice into it...
I'm just using an el-cheap-o aftermarket car charger.
Thanks!

JWhipple said:
Any car chargers that anyone could point me to that charges as fast as a wall charger?
As it is right now, unless I have my screen off and no apps running it drains faster than the charger can put juice into it...
I'm just using an el-cheap-o aftermarket car charger.
Thanks!
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What I use is a cig to usb plug (cost me 10 bucks at walmart). Then I bring the cord from home that came with my phone and plug that into the USB to cig thingy. Works like a charm, I haven't noticed it charging slower than when at home.

JWhipple said:
Any car chargers that anyone could point me to that charges as fast as a wall charger?
As it is right now, unless I have my screen off and no apps running it drains faster than the charger can put juice into it...
I'm just using an el-cheap-o aftermarket car charger.
Thanks!
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http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331233635&sr=8-1

i bought one from t-mobile... its about $29 but its worth the price. I get charge speeds btw 850ma and 950ma when on idle

i have the oem cig to usb charger from Samsung i purchased it at best buy with a gift card lol, when i first got my galaxy tablet.

Just get any standard microusb charger rated at 1a (or 1000mAh ). I'm betting your elcheapo is .5a (500mAh).
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I finally got around to ordering that Motorola charger on Amazon - works just how I wanted it to - thanks so much!

our device requires an official samsung charger to charge at full ac speed. there was an article on the xda front page last week about how to mod your charger to be recognized as official.
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jordanishere said:
our device requires an official samsung charger to charge at full ac speed. there was an article on the xda front page last week about how to mod your charger to be recognized as official.
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All I know is that now I can run my GPS with the screen on and still move UP in battery - before it would drain faster than the car charger would charge, so, I'm happy with what I have now.

Actually the problem is that some of the car chargers are not at 1amp output but less .75 or .85. Thats why your not really seeing an increase. The stock charger is at 1amp. I know AllGamer likes to use the Blackberry ones (which i believe are 1.5amps) Correct me if im wrong AllGamer.
So just look for 1 amp car chargers the cable doesnt matter itll hold whatever you attach it to.

So, no matter wht brand charger you have as long as you connect the two middle pins you will get full charge as long as the charger can put out 1000ma?
I really need a good charger for the car, right now i use a blackberry charger at work an it charges pretty fast. But i need to know how do i find the currect charge rate of a charger. Is there an app for that?

Get tmobiles car charger. Its faster than any others I've tried.
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Can it be had on the cheap
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Here it is ... cheap! $3.49 you dont get cheaper than that! =)
Charger

As I remember those chargers needed the center pins shorted to be recognized as AC.
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Wareazy said:
Here it is ... cheap! $3.49 you dont get cheaper than that! =)
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This charger doesn't keep up. I have one. It will still drain faster than it charges if you're running a GPS app with the screen on.

Does anyone have an experience with this charger from MONOPRICE
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p..._id=1082603&p_id=8858&seq=1&format=4#feedback
I need a great car charger and really dont want to spend to much money on it. Furthermore, if I am getting a 1+amp charger, as long as i am using the stock samsung charging cable then it shouldnt matter if the charger itself has D- and D+ shorted right?
Im assuming this is something standard on all usb CHARGING cables as appose to data cables.?

Dougshell said:
Does anyone have an experience with this charger from MONOPRICE
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p..._id=1082603&p_id=8858&seq=1&format=4#feedback
I need a great car charger and really dont want to spend to much money on it. Furthermore, if I am getting a 1+amp charger, as long as i am using the stock samsung charging cable then it shouldnt matter if the charger itself has D- and D+ shorted right?
Im assuming this is something standard on all usb CHARGING cables as appose to data cables.?
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You want a good reliable charger at eBay pricing..... spend the money 1 time and be done with it. You could've already gotten the T-Mobile one and been done with it.
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For those of you buying the USB 12V Cigarette adapters read this.
Basically if you use a data sync cord with one of those adapters, unless it shorts the 2 data pins together internally (probably not) the phone is going to think it's plugged into a computer and only charge at 500ma (max output for a computer USB port). The write up above explains to short the 2 data cables together (this is done internally with the main AC charger head) back towards the phone so it will charge at 1amp instead of 500ma.
You can buy this cable and just modify it as described. I bought this USB adapter so I could charge 2 things at once.

Let me get this clear.
All i need to look for when it is charging is AC mode. As long as it says that, it doesnt matter what i have or have not done to the cables, AC mode is AC mode.
The charger i am looking at getting is 2.1 amp (because it has a spare usb port...so 1amp per line) and when i plug it in and it says AC MODE then its good to go right.
I just bought a TMOBILE offical charger that shows AC MODE, so when it MONOPRICE charger arrives i can compare. If it doesnt work its another 5 bucks, if it does i can take the tmo one back.
But again i am just wondering are there any caveats to AC MODE, or is it that once AC mode shows that is all that matters.

[Q] Slow Charge with Including USB3.0 Charger

So this is an update to a previous issue I had...
When I first got this phone, the included USB3.0 charger charged much faster than a standard microUSB charger. But then it stopped charging fast. It pretty much stopped charging at all really. Like maybe 1% battery added in like 20 minutes.
So I sent it into Samsung and they returned it saying they couldn't replace it because the wall adapter part was actually from a Note 2 which doesn't support the 3.0 wire (even though it was absolutely the one that came in the box). Once I got it back, I found a brand new set of the same wire and adapter (it was covered with the packing plastic wrap and all that stuff which is what makes me think it was actually a replacement). I plugged in my phone and it charged quick again for about a day. Then it went back to charging slow again.
I still need to get down to T-Mobile to see if they'll exchange the wall adapter which supposedly doesn't work with the USB3.0 cable even though both times it worked at first. It's their mistake but I have a hard time believing they'll own up to it... The model on the adapter by the way is EP-TA10JWE with an output of 5.3V 2.0A.
Assuming they don't exchange it... What do you guys think are my options here? I ordered a 3rd party USB3.0 cable from Amazon and that does the same super slow charging as this (and it didn't come with a different wall adapter anyway so it was kind of a stupid purchase on my part). I tried plugging the cable into a computer with USB3.0 and it didn't make a difference. Is there a different wall adapter that is known to work with the fast charging on this phone that I can buy? Is it AT ALL possible that the connector on my phone is the problem and I need a new phone? That would be terrible, but if it's something I need to do I will. It charges just fine and the same speed as any other phone when I use a microUSB cord and adapter like the one that came with my old S3.
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That's weird brother. I checked my charger and i have the same model number and mine charges extremely fast. Maybe it's a problem with the device it's self.

polarbearmc said:
So this is an update to a previous issue I had...
When I first got this phone, the included USB3.0 charger charged much faster than a standard microUSB charger. But then it stopped charging fast. It pretty much stopped charging at all really. Like maybe 1% battery added in like 20 minutes.
So I sent it into Samsung and they returned it saying they couldn't replace it because the wall adapter part was actually from a Note 2 which doesn't support the 3.0 wire (even though it was absolutely the one that came in the box). Once I got it back, I found a brand new set of the same wire and adapter (it was covered with the packing plastic wrap and all that stuff which is what makes me think it was actually a replacement). I plugged in my phone and it charged quick again for about a day. Then it went back to charging slow again.
I still need to get down to T-Mobile to see if they'll exchange the wall adapter which supposedly doesn't work with the USB3.0 cable even though both times it worked at first. It's their mistake but I have a hard time believing they'll own up to it... The model on the adapter by the way is EP-TA10JWE with an output of 5.3V 2.0A.
Assuming they don't exchange it... What do you guys think are my options here? I ordered a 3rd party USB3.0 cable from Amazon and that does the same super slow charging as this (and it didn't come with a different wall adapter anyway so it was kind of a stupid purchase on my part). I tried plugging the cable into a computer with USB3.0 and it didn't make a difference. Is there a different wall adapter that is known to work with the fast charging on this phone that I can buy? Is it AT ALL possible that the connector on my phone is the problem and I need a new phone? That would be terrible, but if it's something I need to do I will. It charges just fine and the same speed as any other phone when I use a microUSB cord and adapter like the one that came with my old S3.
Any thoughts?
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Are you rooted? What kernel?
NOTE 3

BACARDILIMON said:
Are you rooted? What kernel?
NOTE 3
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no not rooted (i was thinking about it and then this whole thing started)

I've noticed the same thing with mine ..and definently trickling on USB 2 .. I thought USB 3 was suppose to be all the hype about how it would do when u turn fast charge on in a rooted phone with custom kernel.. The charging is slower than my note 2 on USB 2..
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ezsoulja said:
I've noticed the same thing with mine ..and definently trickling on USB 2 .. I thought USB 3 was suppose to be all the hype about how it would do when u turn fast charge on in a rooted phone with custom kernel.. The charging is slower than my note 2 on USB 2..
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its so weird that it DID charge faster for that first couple days (and again after I got the new one)... And I have 2 friends with Note 3's that say they charge faster than their previous phones (one of them had a Note 2).
I just don't know what to do...

The enhanced speed with USB 3.0 is for data transfer, not charging. Using a USB 2.0 or 3.0 will charge your phone at the same speed.
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Towle said:
The enhanced speed with USB 3.0 is for data transfer, not charging. Using a USB 2.0 or 3.0 will charge your phone at the same speed.
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Well first of all, every review says it charges faster with the included 3.0 charger... So I don't see how you could be right about that... Not trying to argue, it's just that was one of the features that everyone talked about... And second of all, the 3.0 charger that came with it barely charges at all anyway anymore, so even if that was true, either the cable, adapter, or phone still has a problem... Phone charges fine, maybe 3 hours for 100% charge with a microUSB cable... About 1% in 10 minutes (that's as long as I can bring myself to bother testing the 3.0 charger for). And that's if the screens off. If the screen is on it actually just won't charge at all, it's like it drains quicker than it's charging with the screen on with that 3.0 cable... Again I say "cable" but it could be the cable or the adapter or the phone that's the problem... I'd love to find a way to figure out which it is...

For some reason the 3.0 charger charged lightening fast today ... Maybe the jedi ROM had to settle in for a few days maybe?
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charger + cable for the oneplus 1

Just wanted to know what are specs for the charger/cable. I can get tons of aftermarket chargers for my ip4 at a buck or two at the most from asian sellers from asia. am I right that I simply need a 2a charger, with a mini usb cable at the end? just looking into getting extra for when they decide to release it to the public.

Here ya go

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Here ya go
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Sweet! thanks buddy.
cable is a regular mini or micro usb at the end?

rocketman122 said:
Sweet! thanks buddy.
cable is a regular mini or micro usb at the end?
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Micro. Ur welcome!

oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.

tpboi said:
oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.
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Haven't tried a third party one yet, thx for the heads up?

tpboi said:
oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.
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U tried oneplus charger and 3rd party cable? or u tried 3rd party charger too? maybe charger wasnt 2A capable.

carlesbc said:
U tried oneplus charger and 3rd party cable? or u tried 3rd party charger too? maybe charger wasnt 2A capable.
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Anyone tried to trace pinout yet? IIRC, I read somewhere 2 of the pins in the cable were shorted, signaling to the OP that it was to take quick charge. I'll try to find that. The same article / post discussed temp sensor limiting amount of charge since the OP would get hot. Not as quick as true fast charge, but faster than standard.
edit: found it: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/vooc-charging-seems-to-be-working.12639/ by one of XDA's well known devs, @graffixnyc - Thanks Patrick!

Lipo can explode if you hot too much or overcharges, google "lipo explosion"

I have a question. If you use the OPO charger, but plug a usb extender into it(and the OPO cable goes into a usb female at the end of the extender cable), does does having that non-OPO cable in the chain slow things down? Mine does seem to charge slow, but I've honestly never connected the OPO cable directly from the charger to the phone to compare. I honestly don't understand how anyone could use it like that (or any other cable coming with a phone). Not even long enough to stretch from an outlet to a table top if the outlet is right next to the table. My Dell Venue 8 Pro cable is amazing(ly ridiculous). It's maybe a foot long. I guess they expect us to charge our devices on the floor? With the DV8P case the cable would barely even reach the floor!

i can confirm that using the OPO wall charger with a 3rd party usb cable does result in a slower charge time. I tried 2 different cables-- both were of different gauges and lengths-- both resulted in different charge times and were all at least 2-3x slower then the OPO cable. anybody with knowledge as to what kind of cable OPO is using and where we can buy longer versions?

cmo23 said:
i can confirm that using the OPO wall charger with a 3rd party usb cable does result in a slower charge time. I tried 2 different cables-- both were of different gauges and lengths-- both resulted in different charge times and were all at least 2-3x slower then the OPO cable. anybody with knowledge as to what kind of cable OPO is using and where we can buy longer versions?
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I can also confirm slower charging using the stock charger with aftermarket cable. But most of my cables are cheaper, is it possible that the gauge of the wire inside the cable is higher on opo cable? Allowing more amps through?
Also, @effluent , if using an aftermarket cable slows things down, I'm assuming putting an extension in the middle will have very similar negative impacts.
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Here:
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...ne+usb&catId=&initiative_id=AS_20140821164650
And here:
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...harger&catId=&initiative_id=AS_20140821164948

You want a charger cable that won't fail.... Stop buying them online. I've bought them everywhere online and they just can't compete with the usb/charger cable from tmobile.... Maybe be the same for other service providers. Plus you get 30 days to refund or exchange.... So you know after a month if it's worth it which it is.... Those teeth won't sit down and ruin the quality of the charge like 90 percent of the cables online.
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I suggest you have a look here :
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-charging-cable-alternative.68517/

flame360 said:
I suggest you have a look here :
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-charging-cable-alternative.68517/
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Seconded. I learned everything I needed to know there! :good:

Cable is way to small I hate it.
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opo cable
On dx . com store..
Bolongking USB Male to Micro USB Male Charging Flat Cable

beastlykings said:
I can also confirm slower charging using the stock charger with aftermarket cable. But most of my cables are cheaper, is it possible that the gauge of the wire inside the cable is higher on opo cable? Allowing more amps through?
Also, @effluent , if using an aftermarket cable slows things down, I'm assuming putting an extension in the middle will have very similar negative impacts.
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You just have to find the right cable. I went through this same thing with my galaxy s5. I got the application "galaxy charging current" and compared the milliamps of all my cables. Some would only do 4-500 ma. Some would do 1800ma. It just depends on the cable. I'm using the cable I got with a ps4 right now, and it will do 1800, and it's 4 feet long.
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Try a fast-charge cable, it has the correct pinout (shorted pins) for fast charging.
www<DOT>amazon.co.uk/dp/B0088HTYUE
And you can't overcharge, it's the phone that demands the current, not the charger that pushes the current through the phone. The phone's charging circuit protects the phone for overcharging and handshakes the right charging current with the connected charger. Charging Android is quiet a complex thing...
Also very very useful: PortaPow USB Power Monitor:
www<DOT>amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DF2485S
(ps can't post links yet, grr..)