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Is such a beast available for purchase anywhere yet?
I realize it won't be compatible with US GSM frequencies, I just want it to work on both my CDMA verizon account and GSM in Europe (Norway, Germany and Switzerland). I'm leaving at the begining of august for a few months so I'd need it before then.
I'd leave Verizon in a second, but I'm tied to it through work.
I live in New Zealand and purchased an unlocked touch pro 2 from singapore which is compatible on both the gsm and wcdma networks here if that helps.
Hi, I have been looking at getting a TP2 in the UK but they seem to be gold dust at the moment (as evident by a few other posters here complaining that T-Mobile and O2 are currently not stocking the phone due to "similarity with iPhone, N97, etc".). Anyway I am thinking of buying it on eBay and as I might be heading to the states soon, I was thinking of getting the TP2 in the US, unlocked. But I am not sure if the networks are compatible for use on O2 network in the UK. Apologies in advance for the ingorance...! Any advice would be helpful. Cheers.
Go Vodafone. Far better customer service than o2. Was a loyal o2 customer for about 5 years and was sick of not being able to understand indian accents on customer support. Gave up went to vodafone, got TP2. Profit.
As for the bands I am unsure. Just my input about netwroks. Sorry if it wasnt what you wanted.
I believe that that T-Mobile US version is compatible and the AT&T Version (which isn't out yet) definitely is. None of the US versions have front cameras, though. You will also need to find someone with AT&T that will request the unlock code for you (unless you find it unlocked on eBay).
Thanks for your quick response!
I tried going via Vodafone but the TP2 is currently only available to business customers. And because I have only moved house last month they rejected my application (didn't pass their credit check, apparently, despite having not missed a single credit payment, ever, in my life...). They did say I can apply again in 3 months, but I don't think I can wait that long, as I've been eye-ing the TP2 for like 3 months, waiting for my O2 contract to end!
I hear that the TP2 in the states are getting a regular 3mm plug for audio, which is a plus, but loses the front camera... hmm, trade offs! But at the risk of them incompatibility... perhaps a UK version is in order...
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/
there you go
yep go to MPD get a unlocked unbranded with a voda contract thats what i did £25 for the phone and 750 mins 250 text unlimited internet for £33 a month
Thirding MPD, 25 quid contract 18 months + web and walk.
Paid £50 for the phone. This gets a pristine unlocked oem phone which can be invaluable later on when the roms etc start coming out!
As far as the bands go- Im pretty sure you will be fine- if you have a look at this list:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/com...[0]=3478&phones[1]=2879&phones[2]=1590&area=2
It compares the Euro TP2 with the US touch pro and a sidekick (which should give a fair indication of what bands are used)
This site gives the bands and coverage for a load of networks over the pond so you should be able to check if you will get service:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml
The Tmobile US version will work with 2G in Europe but not 3G.
The Sprint, Verizon, and Telus ones will work with 2G and 3G. Though I don't know if you need to unlock it or not...
solsearch said:
The Tmobile US version will work with 2G in Europe but not 3G.
The Sprint, Verizon, and Telus ones will work with 2G and 3G. Though I don't know if you need to unlock it or not...
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Thanks that is very helpful. I think I will follow the advice of others and go with MPD for a new contract. Thanks again everyone! I cant wait to get my hands on the TP2.
If you are calling them, persist in re-dialing - don't bother leaving a message - it's worth it.
I dealt with Lucy - excellent service.
CuteCutie said:
Hi, I have been looking at getting a TP2 in the UK but they seem to be gold dust at the moment (as evident by a few other posters here complaining that T-Mobile and O2 are currently not stocking the phone due to "similarity with iPhone, N97, etc".). Anyway I am thinking of buying it on eBay and as I might be heading to the states soon, I was thinking of getting the TP2 in the US, unlocked. But I am not sure if the networks are compatible for use on O2 network in the UK. Apologies in advance for the ingorance...! Any advice would be helpful. Cheers.
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When and where are you coming to the US? I have Euro version of phone and live in the US. If you buy US version you can not use 3G in ohter parts of the world. Same for Euro 3G can not be used in States. Maybe you can get US 3G version and then we can trade
If you come to New York City you can buy from store....mobilecityonline.com or at their actual store.
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When and where are you coming to the US? I have Euro version of phone and live in the US. If you buy US version you can not use 3G in ohter parts of the world. Same for Euro 3G can not be used in States. Maybe you can get US 3G version and then we can trade
If you come to New York City you can buy from store....mobilecityonline.com or at their actual store.
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AT&T's HTC phones with 3G all have 2100MHz, I am sure the Tile 2 (Touch Pro 2 for AT&T) will also. This means it will work with European 3G as well as AT&T 3G.
I don't know about the AT&T version working in Europe. According to statements here and elsewhere the AT&T band, despite being classified as 2100mhz is slightly different from the rest of the world's 2100mhz bands, making it incompatible with them (I can't testify to this, it's just what I've read).
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I don't know about the AT&T version working in Europe. According to statements here and elsewhere the AT&T band, despite being classified as 2100mhz is slightly different from the rest of the world's 2100mhz bands, making it incompatible with them (I can't testify to this, it's just what I've read).
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Thats the T-Mobile version with the different 2100MHz. It has 1700MHz and 2100MHz, one for download and one for uplink. The European 2100MHz is 2100MHz for both downlink and uplink. The 2100MHz included on AT&T handsets is the European 2100MHz and not the T-Mobile version (which is referred to as 1700MHz to get around confusion).
The T-Mobile version's specifications list 1700MHz/2100MHz. I do not know if they are referring only to their bands where one is downlink and one is uplink or if they mean 1700MHz (1700MHz/2100MHz) AND European 2100MHz. I would bet that it includes European 3G but I am not positive.
Sorry, my bad. I get those companies mixed up
Yes I have been worried about the whole slightly different band and therefore it may or may not work in Europe!
I am having trouble with phone contracts at the moment because I have just moved home so my credit rating is completely annhilated and it just takes too long for the credit company to sort it out. In the end I have used eBay and bought a Vodafone branded TP2. I am sticking with O2 simplicity SIM at the moment as a rolling 30 day contract. I've not had too much trouble with O2 customer service, I always seem to get non-Indian, English speaking folks, but retention line was unprepared to make any offer at all which baffled me!
Anyway, onto the exciting (and somewhat scary prospect!) of getting to grips with Hard SPL and custom Roms!
PS, sorry At0mAng I got your message too late! I was thinking of California.
hi everybody .. i just got HTC Desire for my wife and we have this phone for 2 days now .The phone don't read 3G and when i checked the network info the phone read EDGE and when i checked my nexus at same time i seen the network UMTS . so what i can do make this desire read 3G
Check your carrier's APN setting.
Menu->Settings->Wireless & networks->Mobile Network Settings->Access Point Names
You are on T-Mobile USA right?
Sorry but there is NO version of HTC Desire that is compatible with T-Mobile USA 3G network. No, T-Mobile in Europe does not use the same 3G bands for 3G as T-Mobile USA, so even if the phone was sold with a T-Mobile (Europe) logo on it it won't have 3G in the US.
Currently there are TWO hardware versions of the HTC Desire. The first one, A8181, is the one that is sold in Europe and Asia, and this one does not have 3G in the US. The second one, A8183, is sold in Australia by the carrier Telstra. This version is compatible with AT&T's 3G network in most part of the US, but it is not compatible with T-Mobile USA's 3G network.
tsekh501 said:
You are on T-Mobile USA right?
Sorry but there is NO version of HTC Desire that is compatible with T-Mobile USA 3G network. No, T-Mobile in Europe does not use the same 3G bands for 3G as T-Mobile USA, so even if the phone was sold with a T-Mobile (Europe) logo on it it won't have 3G in the US.
Currently there are TWO hardware versions of the HTC Desire. The first one, A8181, is the one that is sold in Europe and Asia, and this one does not have 3G in the US. The second one, A8183, is sold in Australia by the carrier Telstra. This version is compatible with AT&T's 3G network in most part of the US, but it is not compatible with T-Mobile USA's 3G network.
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Yeah .. i am T-Mobile US
and my phone is the first one A8181 i bought it from UK . Anyways this mean NO DESIRE work 3G in USA . Thats sucks
NICEGYPT said:
Yeah .. i am T-Mobile US
and my phone is the first one A8181 i bought it from UK . Anyways this mean NO DESIRE work 3G in USA . Thats sucks
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There is, as I said above, the A8183. It works only with AT&T's 3G though.
i have the A8183 And works fine on at&t 3g i will sell if you are interested or anyone for that matter..
$550
NICEGYPT said:
Yeah .. i am T-Mobile US
and my phone is the first one A8181 i bought it from UK . Anyways this mean NO DESIRE work 3G in USA . Thats sucks
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You will find that very, very few "worldwide" GSM phones will work with T-Mobile US's 3G due to the split 1700/2100 AWS band that TMo US uses.
Ironically though, you can take a TMo US phone out of the US and it will happily talk 3G to most other non-US GSM networks.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
You will find that very, very few "worldwide" GSM phones will work with T-Mobile US's 3G due to the split 1700/2100 AWS band that TMo US uses.
Ironically though, you can take a TMo US phone out of the US and it will happily talk 3G to most other non-US GSM networks.
Regards,
Dave
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Most Europe/Asian carriers only use 2100 band for 3G, so as long as your phone supports that band (most GSM phones do) you can get 3G on their network.
T-Mobile USA on the other hand, requires BOTH 1700 & 2100 bands support in order for your phone to get 3G on their network. For a long time, T-Mobile USA was the ONLY carrier in the world that use 1700 band for 3G, and therefore if a phone was not carried by T-Mobile USA it didn't have 1700 3G band support (it doesn't need to because no other carrier in the world used it). Well, lately a new Canadian wireless carrier, Wind, also employs the 1700 & 2100 bands for their 3G network... so the chance of getting more phones to support these 3G bands has slightly increased. Slightly, because Wind is a new and small carrier...
I'm moving to the U.S. (california if that matters) in a couple of weeks and it's time for me to buy a desire. Being from Sweden I'm used to having great 3g service and use it well. What happens if i buy the phone here (not a U.S. specific model) and bring it overseas? Will 3g work? If so, can I choose from any carrier?
Woppe said:
I'm moving to the U.S. (california if that matters) in a couple of weeks and it's time for me to buy a desire. Being from Sweden I'm used to having great 3g service and use it well. What happens if i buy the phone here (not a U.S. specific model) and bring it overseas? Will 3g work? If so, can I choose from any carrier?
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No it won't - a European Desire won't give you 3G on any US Network.
Regards,
Dave
Woppe said:
I'm moving to the U.S. (california if that matters) in a couple of weeks and it's time for me to buy a desire. Being from Sweden I'm used to having great 3g service and use it well. What happens if i buy the phone here (not a U.S. specific model) and bring it overseas? Will 3g work? If so, can I choose from any carrier?
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it all depends on which carrier you use. I have ATT and I bought my Telstra (made for AUZ) that uses the same band for 3g as ATT does and I get great 3g in SO CAL.
if you buy one in Sweden it will not work on 3g here. You can buy one from US Cellular and it will work here but they don't have that great of coverage. You can buy a EVO from Sprint, but you won't have a sim card.
If you buy a Telstra for the US it will work in Sweden (not sure about 3g) but you will have 3g in US on ATT when you get here. I bought my from here
Thank you, that was helpful information!
Is a Desire using the 850MHz band what I need?
Woppe said:
Thank you, that was helpful information!
Is a Desire using the 850MHz band what I need?
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yes, the 850 will work on ATT 3g
I'm going to Florida on holiday next year. I intended on buying a prepaid sim for my Desire (from Orange, debranded and unlocked). I did intend using 3G if it were available but after reading some of these posts I'm now unsure this will work.
Much appreciated if anyone could give me any advice.
Many thanks.
or8it said:
I'm going to Florida on holiday next year. I intended on buying a prepaid sim for my Desire (from Orange, debranded and unlocked). I did intend using 3G if it were available but after reading some of these posts I'm now unsure this will work.
Much appreciated if anyone could give me any advice.
Many thanks.
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if you have an EUR desire it will not work on 3g in the US, it has different bands. it will work for Edge. If the phone's bandwidth (networks) don't match the carrier's it does not matter what sim card you have. Most EUR world phone's will work in US but just not on 3g, it must be same bandwidth.
if you must have 3g for your hoilday then you are better buying a prepaid phone, but that won't be a Desire
Thanks for explanation, very helpful.
Hi!
Type *#*#4636#*#* in dial pad, you will get to a screen where some information and hidden settings placed in; then tap on the first item which is "telephone information", and there press "menu" button, here in the android menu the first item is "select radio-band"! when you choose this menu option you will see a list of GSM/UMTS radio-band alternatives; Automatic, EURO, USA, JAPAN, AUS, AUS2 bands"
Well I'm not expert on this particular issue, just wondering what these radio-band options are for(?) Maybe you can change your Desire's radio band to USA band and try if it works in the USA (appreciate if you supply feedback whether or not it really works)
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You can't change bands that's hardware related, its cheaper to buy a TELUS desire, it has 850, 1900 bands
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htc fan89 said:
You can't change bands that's hardware related, its cheaper to buy a TELUS desire, it has 850, 1900 bands
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Unfortunately when the Telus Desire goes back to Sweden, it won't have 3G.
The US Cellular Desire won't work in Sweden at all since there's no CDMA carrier.
If it weren't so hard now to get a Nexus One I'd suggest that to you. Both version support Euro 3G and you'd use it on AT&T or T-Mobile in the US depending on which version you acquire.
The problem is, as far as I know, there are no tri-band 3G HTC Desires. There is 850/1900 (Telus), 850/2100 (Telstra) and 900/2100 (Euro). So Telstra is the only one that gives you some compromise of 3G on both continents.
On the other hand I'm pretty sure all the GSM North American Samsung Galaxy S phones (Bell Vibrant, AT&T Captivate, T-Mobile Vibrant) support the Euro 2100 band.
I am trying to get more than Edge out of a Tigo SIM in Honduras. 'I'm only here for a month and then back to Verizon. Anyone have any experience with international GSM SIMs ? Disappointed that this is marketed as a global phone and can only get Edge. Thanks for any help.
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I am trying to get more than Edge out of a Tigo SIM in Honduras. 'I'm only here for a month and then back to Verizon. Anyone have any experience with international GSM SIMs ? Disappointed that this is marketed as a global phone and can only get Edge. Thanks for any help.
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You are wrong.
This model is not marketed as "World Phone" is just for calls not for data and the problem is not Software is Hardware since 850MHz bands are locked on HTC From Verizon and from Sprint, there is no way to unlock those bands, in fact is open to Asia and Europe bands not GSM American ones, just maybe TMobile but not any other.
Sorry but you will have to live with this matter.