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[Q] Sprint and ATT versions Superior?

Hey all are the GS2 from Sprint and att superior to our tmobile version? hardware wise? I am new to rooting and all, and I just rooted my phone and it runs super better with all the bloatware removed.. My antutu bench scored like 5460. is that good? and when I freshly reboot i scored a 3800 in the quadrant. anyone know when an OC kernal will be out?

first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?

jessejames111981 said:
first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?
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Very well put sir.
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Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.

Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?

bubbabfp said:
Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?
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overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!

I cant seem to download Dead Space.. from the flexion site, but I am downloading dungeon defenders now.

jessejames111981 said:
overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!
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Your right no need for overclock this processor is one of the higher clocks and we still get better battery life compared to the others variants. Dead space is a good example on optimization for the gpu for us. As soon as we get some kernels and optimized roms are phone will be sitting right next to the other beast.

att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds

Killbynature said:
Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.
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This. The big difference from a UI perspective is the lack of hardware acceleration on the TMO version. In all likelihood, it will still that way as well.

quest4fire said:
att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds
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show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results

I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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overthatscreen said:
I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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Yep, this is pretty much the trade-off. With the optimizations going on over in the Dev threads, I have been able to get this phone to behave a fair amount more smoothly, but it's still pretty much a joke compared to the exynos versions.
On the other hand, my data speeds absolutely crush what I was getting with Sprint's wimax in NYC, so there you have it.

overthatscreen said:
I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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I just moved over from the Sprint version today. I will agree that the Sprint version is snappier but the service was horrible, like 300kbytes average, no thanks i will deal with a very tiny bit of lag for better service.
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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Check out the city .....
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TJBunch1228 said:
The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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He's comparing it to the exynos SGS2 tho -- no amount of exchanging is going to make the TMO version look any better in that comparison.

This thread makes me sad I sold, my international exynos version for this
I was using it on att gophone $50 unlimited plan, getting 800 haha, which was ok for simple browsing.
Their prices are ridiculous so signing with.then is out of the question.
after owning it 3 months I sold it , and used the money to get this so I can be on a plan with high speed data
I miss hardware acceleration, and some games running very smoothly.
I liked the big screen, capacitive buttons, and Data speed.
I know I will get other phones and sell this eventually so I don't let it bother me......I try not to lol
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Idk about lag, but my phone doesn't lag at all. Fastest phone I've ever had.
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it was a big deal for me at first, but for my needs it is plenty capable
I miss the high graphics, but realize that good games aren't made to run on one device. If a good game comes out, developers want that game to run well on all devices, so long as they meet the sudden requirements.
Maybe i'm wrong
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[ CDMA / Verizon ] The nexus versus... Questions inside.

Im coming from Sprint to verizon. IM debating between the Nexus and the Rezound. I see that the Rezound has a faster processor by like .3 ghz. Does that little bit make a difference? What about s-off, full root, unlocked bootloader etc etc. Does it have all of that too? Any reason to choose the nexus over the rezound?

Just came from Spurnt (uhh, Sprint) and a MoPho phone myself.
(I will never in my life own another Motorola phone no matter what)
You will have zero problems with rooting or unlocking the bootloader (s-off).
It took me all of 10 minutes after I got the phone home and those 2 along with wireless tether were up and running and have had zero issues with the phone.
It flat out rocks.
BTW about 40Mb down and 18Mb up speeds on LTE in my area

I have had so many HTC phones and I was sick of sense so I got the nexus both solid phones mater of preference
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mroneeyedboh said:
Im coming from Sprint to verizon. IM debating between the Nexus and the Rezound. I see that the Rezound has a faster processor by like .3 ghz. Does that little bit make a difference? What about s-off, full root, unlocked bootloader etc etc. Does it have all of that too? Any reason to choose the nexus over the rezound?
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If you care about unlocked bootloader the nexus is the only way to go. Plus the nexus will always have more development support than a one off device like the rezound.
Also I think the omap processor at 1.2 is faster than the scorpion at 1.5
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If you read up on the galaxy nexus omap chip, you'll find or that the natural clock speed is 1.5GHz. It's actually underclocked on our phones. Most custom rooms allow you over clock if you want.
Honestly, with pure Android, speed is not an issue, especially with all the great devs. Remember, a great development community can really make our break a phone. That's why the og evo was so good, because of the great developers.
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I switched from Sprint to Verizon about three weeks ago, and I haven't looked back! I've been wanting a Nexus phone for a while now, Sprint sucks in my hometown (Longview,TX), and I bet on Verizon bringing 4G here soon - and I was right! We just got 4G (unofficially) a week ago, and were among the cities they officially expanded to on the 16th!
My point is, switch to Verizon and get a Galaxy Nexus! They're awesome. I immediately put CyanogenMod 9 on mine, and I've loved nearly every minute I've used my phone. I wouldn't call it "always buttery smooth," but the hiccups are hardly noticeable.
Oh, and I highly recommend Apex Launcher! It's currently rated 4.8/5 in the Play Store from over 2200 ratings, and over 1900 are 5-star ratings! It's highly customizable.
The worst part of my switch was going from a $90/mo unlimited plan with Sprint (after taxes) to a $110/mo 4GB plan with Verizon, but it's worth it.

Dude, by something already! I figured by now you would have been way on your way with the GN and Verizon...lol
Anyway. I got the GN, my wife has the Rezound. Both are good phones, the GN is definitely the better phone for me. The Rezound was the better phone for the wife.
The GN feels faster then the Rezound even though the Rezound has a 1.5ghz dula core vs a 1.2ghz in the GN. The GN just feels like a flagship device where the Rezound is just another HTC phone and it is almost like if you owned 1 HTC phone it is like you owned them all.
The screen is way better on the GN as well. Super Amoled over SLCD any day. The one thing the Rezound does have is a better radio. The Rezound will pick up 4G in low signal area's and keep a good signal with it where the GN will drop me to 3G.
There is pretty good development for the Rezound as well and they just got a release candidate leak of ICS yesterday...There is still nothing like running pure ICS that we get on the GN though.
So either way you will have a good phone but I would choose the GN 7 days of the week. Now can you please go buy something?

true, I should have bought something by now. I just dont want to get something and then wish I had gotten the other one.

mroneeyedboh said:
true, I should have bought something by now. I just dont want to get something and then wish I had gotten the other one.
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Like I told the guy in the other thread, buy the GN first. If you do not have any reception problems then you will already have the better phone. If you encounter any problems then exchange for the Rezound.

okay but what designates a better signal? What dbm should I be after?
Thanks guys.. Im hesitant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.

Believe me when I say that the Nexus will run faster than the Rezound, even on just stock. Sense is a system hog if I ever saw one. Plus, like others mentioned, it's easy to OC the Nexus, however it runs so smoothly that I've never had to. Keep in mind that ICS is optimized to take advantage of multiple processors, unlike GB which doesn't.
Additionally, if you can afford it, I suggest Verizon over Sprint, although as a disclaimer I've never had Sprint so my opinion comes from what my friends have told me about them and my experiences with Big Red.
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mroneeyedboh said:
okay but what designates a better signal? What dbm should I be after?
Thanks guys.. Im hesitant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
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When I talk about signal, I am really talking about the devices that seem to have bad hardware. My first GN would literally drop 4G in a good area every couple of minutes. It would lose signal and then it would come back.
My replacement is 100% fine and I have had it for 2 weeks now. Trust me, you will know if your device is bad. Also, this was only noticed on 4G. 3G had no issues.
Having said that, my wifes Rezound pulls in better dbm's in our house which is in a area with bad signal for any carrier. On Sprint I needed an Airave or I couldn't use my phone in my house...
Now I can use my GN to make calls and while the signal is pretty weak it still holds and calls sound fine. I am usually around -100 through -120 in my house. 4G sometimes will come on but it has a hard time sticking. My wife's signal in my house is usually around -93 and holds 4G signal throughout my house.
I am not really concerned as I have wifi in my house and have no problems with my phone or texts on my GN at home and in better area's 4G never drops.
I still would never give up my GN for a Rezound. If my 2nd GN had the same issues as my first I do not know what I would have done. I might have looked at the Razr Maxx but the GN and Verizon were the main reasons I made the switch from Sprint.
After owning HTC phone exclusively since the ppc-6600 all the way through the EVO 4G and 3D, these devices just feel stale to me. If I didn't own these HTC devices before, maybe the Rezound would be more exciting but it is not.
Everyday I fall more in love with my GN. The latest thing is being able to run the GN in tablet mode. This just put the device over the top for me and made it even more user friendly. Having the bottom bar handle the on screen navigations as well as all the notifications, it has become truly amazing.

Thanks man... Imay get the GN and my fiance may get the rezound..

So to get this straight, I would know if I have a bad nexus by the 4g signal dropping out? Would it be anywhere? Or just where the 4g signal isnt great?

mroneeyedboh said:
So to get this straight, I would know if I have a bad nexus by the 4g signal dropping out? Would it be anywhere? Or just where the 4g signal isnt great?
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You'd have to compare it to another Verizon LTE phone next to it and see which is better. The GN will probably have a lower signal. Just how it is.

Okay well I still havent gotten a straight answer. Is it a lower signal, or does it just show the ACTUAL signal like all AOSP roms do?

i would easily say the nexus, i made the same switch your doin, and i LOVE IT!!!! My bill is cheaper than it was with sprint, the service is waaaaaay better, the nexus will get early updates, and the dev support for it is massive! You won't regret it

Seriously why hasn't anyone mentioned that although the rezound has 1.5 gigs its a couple of a8 cores and not a9.
a9 cores @ 1.2 gig clock speed easily out performs an a8 with 1.5 gig.

Just add a poll on the thread.
I vote for the Nexus..

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Okay well I still havent gotten a straight answer. Is it a lower signal, or does it just show the ACTUAL signal like all AOSP roms do?
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It shows an accurate signal. So do other phones if you go into the proper settings menu. It is also likely to have a lower signal if compared to RAZR or Rezound. Just how it is.

Did the official Verizon 4.04 update help your cell signal?

I realize the release is brand new and has already been pulled but I'm curious to find out what people will think after using it a few days. Have you encountered any improvement or degredation in call quality, data quality, battery life? Sorry about the number of choices but some people think polls are skewed for a result and always say I should have had this or that as an option so I tried to think of as many options as possible since I can not add more choices after the fact.

Battery life hasn't improved for me but could be the rom I'm on (patient Zero )
I don't lose data as much now but still to early to tell. Appears better.
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Subjectively, seems worse to me, but better handoff to 3g.

Same reception as FA02/FA02. Quicker handoff though. Favors 3G over 4G.

Battery life hasn't really improved nor dbm's. One thing I did notice was 3G to 4G handoff was quicker.

akademix said:
Battery life hasn't really improved nor dbm's. One thing I did notice was 3G to 4G handoff was quicker.
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Doesn't data have nothing to with dBms?
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wyattyoss said:
Doesn't data have nothing to with dBms?
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er...what?

wyattyoss said:
Doesn't data have nothing to with dBms?
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Lolololol
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I notice that the screen on mine is much more sensitive to touch. That was my biggest issue before so now I'm happy!
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I notice that the screen on mine is much more sensitive to touch. That was my biggest issue before so now I'm happy!
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Ditto on that as well. Very sensitive. My 4G is the same as my Razr Maxx and D4. Cross Fingers!

I noticed I had 4G in an area I couldn't before, other than that nothing really changed for me. One of the guys I talk to on G+ says that he never got 4G in his house before and his wifes Rezound always did, but since updating the radios last night he gets 4G inside his home.

I'm still getting random drops from 4G, but the passing off onto 3G seems to be a lot faster. Also I noticed that I get more bars in area where I had less (ex. 2 bars of 4G is now 4 bars of 4G), but still had the same dbms.

Subjectively I feel it helped tremendously. Haven't had a single data drop all day when before I would get several drops a day. I also have better reception.
Why did it get pulled?
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I've been on 4.0.4 for months now but I did flash the radios from the official update and my signal is better.
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No noticable difference for me. Although my house is right across the street from an LTE tower in a park.
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So far I am disappoint.
While the hand offs are faster I'm connected to LTE a lot less now...and previously it seemed that signal in my area was improving ><
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dBm is how strong of a signal your phone is getting. (if you want a higher dBm hold it higher/different ) That should be more dependent on hardware than software though, what's sometimes more important is the Signal to Noise Ratio and the Carrier Interference & Noise Ratio (SNR & CINR). Which is basically how easy your phone can hear the tower.
It's like trying to yell across a room that is full of drunk people, whoever you're talking to may be able to hear you yelling but they have no idea what you're saying. Same way for cell phones if you're in a very crowded area.

Something you guys may want to look at. So I was going to test the radios today. I sat here on lean kernel and AOKP and was getting between 86-89dbm of 4G with the new radios which was better but I figured what the hell and flashed the IMM76K build and now I get 71-74dbm with lean kernel. I don't know if everyone is going to see results like this but it is definitely worth a shot if you are seeing low dbm with the new radio.
Speedtest is now giving me 20mb down when the highest I could get before was 12. I know this sounds to good to be true, so don't believe me if you think so but I am just reporting what I am seeing.
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I'm not surprised the results are mixed but I was hoping for better.

Radios
For some reason my signal starts off really bad then goes back to normal. I have noticed it favored 3g more so than 4g. Normally on my drive home from work, as soon as i hit the highway it hits 4g, i was a good 10 miles down the road, still showed 3g, so toggled lte off then on and boom back to 4g, albeit weak for a minute then back to normal. Speed tests show slightly faster, but that's negligible for me. Could just be network congestion at the time the other tests were run.
On a side rant i did notice something slightly strange. Installed bamf 1.25 simultaneously on my nexus (had since launch date) and a certified pre-owned replacement for a friend, which of course was freshly rooted by me si the "sd card" was empty other than the roms, and the fresh phone blazed through the installed about 30 seconds quicker than mine and also rebooted faster. I clicked both phones at the same time, both using 5.8.0.0 touch recovery. Nothing to do with the radio, but felt like sharing. Guess i might completely wipe my phone and see if it speeds her up!

Underwhelmed by the Sprint Samsung E4GT (SPH-D710)

The firmware on my wife's SPH-D710 was just upgraded to FH13. Based on my reading here, that upgrade included an improvement to the 3G modem. If that is true, this is a pretty sad phone - let me explain.
I downloaded Speedtest to my phone, a 2+ year old HTC EVO and here phone. I then ran Speedtest on both. (Actually, it was much harder than that. The GPS on her phone was simply not working, and Speedtest thought I was near Wichita, not southeast Michigan. Even after rebooting to get the GPS working, Speedtest still thought I was hundred of miles form here. Fortunately, the second-to-last server listed overlapped with the servers listed on my phone.)
To be clear: I did one phone then the next. I turned off the WiFi and help both phones in the same location.
HTC EVO: Ping - 192 ms, download - 2531 kbps, upload - 612 kbps
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 173 ms, download - 1789 kbps, upload - 520 kbps
The only difference is that my phone is rooted and I am running AdFree, but that certainly cannot account for the huge difference in performance.
I was actually quite pleased with my wife's phone until I a) ran headlong into the very poor GPS performance and b) saw the poor modem performance. I understand now why HTC phones cost more...

Cool story bro.
Trolls don't take labor day off?
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lol wow.. dunno bout fh13 but fh23 works better for me.. either way this phone is beast.. maybe just yours is crap?
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I thought it was common knowledge that the antennas on the e4gt were a little weaker than most, that seems to be a common trend in Sammy phones. If you want strong antennas I'd recommend Motorolla, however the software on their phones is ****. Motoblur, bleh. Regardless, Samsung still makes the best phones on the market and smother everything else out right now. The S2 helds its title until the S3 came out, nothing tops a Sammy phone but another Sammy I believe the smooth performance and top of the line GPU/CPU/screen is a good trade off.

My apologies if this sounded like a troll message. My wife's phone is clearly faster than mine with regard to processing speed. This is clearly noticeable when updating apps. My post was more a matter of disappointment - why it should clearly excel in some areas but seem to fall flat on others, especially given that it is a much newer device.
I just downloaded and installed Quadrant Standard on both phones. My perceptions were correct - the Samsung is MUCH faster than the EVO. So, again I ask/wonder, why the much slower 3G speed and poor GPS performance?

groston said:
My apologies if this sounded like a troll message. My wife's phone is clearly faster than mine with regard to processing speed. This is clearly noticeable when updating apps. My post was more a matter of disappointment - why it should clearly excel in some areas but seem to fall flat on others, especially given that it is a much newer device.
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Your Samsung radio is not going to do better than the HTC radio, first and foremost you have to accept that. Then you can move on to trying out other modems in an attempt to improve signal and download/upload speeds.
There's a LONG list of them that have been released since back in February; you'll find the downloads for each in a stickied post in the development. It doesn't matter what kernel or ROM you are running, you can swap out modem builds at will. If one doesn't work, flash another but always make sure you update profile & PRL after each flash and before running any sort of speed tests.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764210
Happy flashing!

groston said:
The firmware on my wife's SPH-D710 was just upgraded to FH13. Based on my reading here, that upgrade included an improvement to the 3G modem. If that is true, this is a pretty sad phone - let me explain.
I downloaded Speedtest to my phone, a 2+ year old HTC EVO and here phone. I then ran Speedtest on both. (Actually, it was much harder than that. The GPS on her phone was simply not working, and Speedtest thought I was near Wichita, not southeast Michigan. Even after rebooting to get the GPS working, Speedtest still thought I was hundred of miles form here. Fortunately, the second-to-last server listed overlapped with the servers listed on my phone.)
To be clear: I did one phone then the next. I turned off the WiFi and help both phones in the same location.
HTC EVO: Ping - 192 ms, download - 2531 kbps, upload - 612 kbps
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 173 ms, download - 1789 kbps, upload - 520 kbps
The only difference is that my phone is rooted and I am running AdFree, but that certainly cannot account for the huge difference in performance.
I was actually quite pleased with my wife's phone until I a) ran headlong into the very poor GPS performance and b) saw the poor modem performance. I understand now why HTC phones cost more...
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Fh13 is battery improvements, if you update your prl that will help with download speeds. There are way to many variables for data speeds to get reliable info. 1.7 mbs download is damn good on 3g, I wish I got those speeds, I get .5 MBS if I'm lucky in Sacramento, ca. So anyway unless you have one of the lte phones that Sprint offers there is no better phone then the S2. And those phones are by no means leaps and bounds ahead of this one.
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Thanks for the feedback. I am not an expert with regard to these matters and had assumed that a) the the newer phone would have a faster modem than the older one and b) the download speeds I recorded were not out of the ordinary. My expectations have been reset and I will enjoy her phone (when I can) for what it does well.

Those speed differences are small, I don't think you will notice. Also the faster processor will probably still load Web pages faster even with the slightly lower network speeds.
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For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.

Wow really? A thread whining about 1.7mb on 3g... That's f'in good speed for 3g.. There's plenty of us who can't even get past the kb's. Go get yourself an Evo and enjoy your HTC reloading screen...
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groston said:
For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.
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You'll find there is a whole lot to love about this phone and with the amazing developers in this forum your choices for customization are endless. Getting rid of my E4GT was one of the hardest things I've done (as far as my gadgets are concerned) but I'm also enjoying the SGSIII.

groston said:
For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.
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You have to understand something, network speeds tests are not exactly reliable measures. If you want comparable measurements, you have to run multiple tests on the 2 phones using the identical server at the same time. Then you average the tests. Otherwise, what you have is one data point, testing from a server at different times. So one point may have been when server was less loaded, or the network was less loaded. And even then, your original tests were close enough that you would not notice it, and to be "underwhelmed" just because of that is silly.
Root has absolutely nothing to do with data speeds. What accounted for the improvement is most likely a decreased load on the server or Sprint's network. I have seen much more variation than that on my own phone, simply by testing at different times of the day.

worrying about a 500 k difference on what appears to be pretty great 3g(remember, some sprint users get literally 100kbps) seems kinda bourgeois. how much faster do you need your porn to download?

austin420 said:
worrying about a 500 k difference on what appears to be pretty great 3g(remember, some sprint users get literally 100kbps) seems kinda bourgeois. how much faster do you need your porn to download?
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You ever try and jerk with the video skipping totally messes up your rythem
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cas8180 said:
You ever try and jerk with the video skipping totally messes up your rythem
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This.
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Since the htc was rooted isn't it possible that the sprint proxy had been removed? Nowhere in the post did I see where the OP even stated what ROM he was running.....

DNA or GneX

Ok so i have a DNA and i have a Gnex im having trouble deciding which i should keep for the long run. Obviously specs are on the DNA's side, but customizability is with the Gnex. My main question is battery and signal, i havent had my gnex long enough to see how these perform with the Dna so i was hoping you could help. My Gnex is rooted running Muzzy's latest 4.3 build im using Tinykernal also i am using the hyperion 3800 mah extended battery. Will this combination last as long as my dna throughout the day if not longer, and will the phone be able to hold on to somewhat of the same signal that my dna has? Thanks.

i'd hold on to the Dna cause it has better hardware than the gnex
and i'm sure the DNA has decent development no?

In terms of updates Gnexus wins all the way to KLP. Knowing HTC practice, you may not even get KLP
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The DNA doesn't have support like the gnex obviously, but the DNA does have that pesky Sim card error problem that is very annoying.
comments on battery life and signal strength between the 2? Like I said I use the extended battery I know the stock nexus battery can't last all day to save its life.

Friend of mine has the DNA and I've never heard him complain about battery, and he's outlasted me before too.
Development? I think they have some decent stuff going on, not sure.
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Yea development's cool
they got AOKP, CM10.2 , Carbon , uXYLON and a handful of other roms as well

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The DNA doesn't have support like the gnex obviously, but the DNA does have that pesky Sim card error problem that is very annoying.
comments on battery life and signal strength between the 2? Like I said I use the extended battery I know the stock nexus battery can't last all day to save its life.
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Thats if you live and breathe your phone. I hardly ( and this is the MAJORITY of the users) ever go past 1:30 display time. To anyone who goes over this "average" time has serious issues and should stop to think if most of the interaction is between a computer or actual people. If you view movies and things like that, thats another story but equally annoying. Its a small screen, I can't possibly see myself enjoying a movie in a 4.65 inch screen as a lot of the details are lost but thats just me.
On topic: The GN is a great phone but only due to the work the developers around here. You will receive biased opinions here and thats mainly because many if not most of us have not had a first hand experience with the DNA. So with that said, go with the GN lol

Foster6565 said:
Ok so i have a DNA and i have a Gnex im having trouble deciding which i should keep for the long run. Obviously specs are on the DNA's side, but customizability is with the Gnex. My main question is battery and signal, i havent had my gnex long enough to see how these perform with the Dna so i was hoping you could help. My Gnex is rooted running Muzzy's latest 4.3 build im using Tinykernal also i am using the hyperion 3800 mah extended battery. Will this combination last as long as my dna throughout the day if not longer, and will the phone be able to hold on to somewhat of the same signal that my dna has? Thanks.
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The DNA runs circles around our phones spec wise, the gnex is getting old, given the gnex will last a long time even after google drops support for it, but your DNA will probably be a device you'll want to use more, bigger screen, better specs, and the development is just fine there.

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Thats if you live and breathe your phone. I hardly ( and this is the MAJORITY of the users) ever go past 1:30 display time. To anyone who goes over this "average" time has serious issues and should stop to think if most of the interaction is between a computer or actual people. If you view movies and things like that, thats another story but equally annoying. Its a small screen, I can't possibly see myself enjoying a movie in a 4.65 inch screen as a lot of the details are lost but thats just me.
On topic: The GN is a great phone but only due to the work the developers around here. You will receive biased opinions here and thats mainly because many if not most of us have not had a first hand experience with the DNA. So with that said, go with the GN lol
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Serious issues for using your phone for more than 1:30 a day? Browsing social networks and texting casually throughout the day will easily go past 1:30 screen on time.
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msavic6 said:
Serious issues for using your phone for more than 1:30 a day? Browsing social networks and texting casually throughout the day will easily go past 1:30 screen on time.
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+1
4hrs here

Seraz007 said:
+1
4hrs here
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I'd be lucky to get that much screen on time lmao
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Garridon said:
I'd be lucky to get that much screen on time lmao
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hehe
well that was on 4.3
on 4.2 i used to get about 3.5 hrs or so

Seraz007 said:
hehe
well that was on 4.3
on 4.2 i used to get about 3.5 hrs or so
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With all your same apps installed?
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The DNA gets 2-3 more bars than the Galaxy Nexus, but that doesn't mean better download/upload speeds. The RAZR M usually has the same signal strength as the GalNex, yet 10 times outta 10 the RAZR M beats the GalNex in download speeds... Though ping and upload are about the same. So if you're concerned about that, run speedtests on both in a Verizon store.
I don't like the non-removable battery and storage (if you're going to limit the storage with no SD card option, at least make it 32 GB....), and I really don't like the plug over the micro USB port. Also, 9/10 or so used DNAs on eBay have scratched screens... Not sure if that matters to you, but yours will probably fall victim, it's apparently not Gorilla Glass.
Also, I'm done with HTC, ever since they ****ed over the Thunderbolt owners with updates and releasing the kernel source, I think a lot of us have been weary. How many phones can you say have 4.3 on stock or a ROM? There's the Google Play edition phones, the Nexus line (save the One and S).... Not much else I'm sure. Most devices don't have it anyway.

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With all your same apps installed?
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yes