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Beyond the early termination fee if I cancel my 2 yr T-mobile contract, will my phones be banned from T-mobile or the T-mobile network? Is there anything else I should look out for? I'm 2 mo. into my contract. I'm interested in canceling and going with a StraightTalk Sim Card on T-mobile. Thanks.
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Beyond the early termination fee if I cancel my 2 yr T-mobile contract, will my phones be banned from T-mobile or the T-mobile network? Is there anything else I should look out for? I'm 2 mo. into my contract. I'm interested in canceling and going with a StraightTalk Sim Card on T-mobile. Thanks.
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are you on Value or Classic plan? Do you have Equipment Installment Plan?
msnger said:
are you on Value or Classic plan? Do you have Equipment Installment Plan?
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I have Classic Unlimited Plus with 2GB limit.
Don't quote but I don't think they will ban your IMEI if you bought and paid for it with a contract,you can think the Early Termination fee as the subsidized price on your device. Most of time when T-Mobile ban devicse are those that are on equipment installment plans that people haven't fully paid off the phone yet.
philpfone said:
I have Classic Unlimited Plus with 2GB limit.
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Since you're on a classic plan you should be fine. If you were on a value plan with a payment arrangements on the phone then probably not so much.
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Hi All,
I was in the T-mo store checking the note 2 last night. The lady told me that if I upgrade my 3 lines plan now, she can offer me $90.00 for all 3 lines (1000 min+unlimited text+ 2 data lines (5G and 2G). So I asked her if I want to buy the note 2 with the upgrade, how much that will be.
She told me $250 + tax. So I called the T-mo store asking the lady to upgrade it for me and I will pick up the phone later. But when I trying to pay, they told me $250 is down payment, I have to pay$20 for 20 months!!!!! the saleswoman never mentioned about $20 for 20months.
It equals I buy the phone directly from Amazon, and got stock with 2yr contact! The salesman told me that they can't cancel the order once it's been placed and I need to go back to the store tomorrow to talk to their manager. I don't know what should I do, please help~ Thanks!
It all depends on that type of plan you are on or they are going to change you to. I bought mine with no contract at full retail and the guy offered to change me to a class class plan and make payments you what she told you. I told him I didn't car about the cost of the phone and wanted to keep my plan.
Oh no! You just signed up for one of Tmobile's Value Plans. You get a big discount on the rate because you are paying full price for the phone. The Note II sells for $649 no plan. You paid $250 + ($20x20 months=$400) = $649. You get to pay for a full price with ZERO interest over the 20 month and after the 20 months you save that $20 per month ($20x4 months=$80 savings again)
The other rate plan is the Classic plan. You would have paid $419 (less $50 rebate) up front for the phone and paid more for your monthly rate plan. In fact you would end up paying more over the life of the contract with the classic plan.
You got a great phone for $250 down ( $169 less up front ) a lower rate plan, you pay the balance of the price of the phone over $20 months interest free.
Face it, you go the best rate plan at the least expensive up front cost for the Note II at Tmobile. Be happy
Thanks guys, I understand that the rate plan is good, but I am not happy because they didn't tell me the $20 for 20 months until they changed the plan for me.
The upgrades is not much different than my current one, and got me into 2yr contact again and I have to pay full price for it.
But thanks anyway, I'll go to talk to them tomorrow to see if there is anyway I can get off this trap. Thanks!
Cheezenub said:
Oh no! You just signed up for one of Tmobile's Value Plans. You get a big discount on the rate because you are paying full price for the phone. The Note II sells for $649 no plan. You paid $250 + ($20x20 months=$400) = $649. You get to pay for a full price with ZERO interest over the 20 month and after the 20 months you save that $20 per month ($20x4 months=$80 savings again)
The other rate plan is the Classic plan. You would have paid $419 (less $50 rebate) up front for the phone and paid more for your monthly rate plan. In fact you would end up paying more over the life of the contract with the classic plan.
You got a great phone for $250 down ( $169 less up front ) a lower rate plan, you pay the balance of the price of the phone over $20 months interest free.
Face it, you go the best rate plan at the least expensive up front cost for the Note II at Tmobile. Be happy
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Cheezenub said:
Oh no! You just signed up for one of Tmobile's Value Plans. You get a big discount on the rate because you are paying full price for the phone. The Note II sells for $649 no plan. You paid $250 + ($20x20 months=$400) = $649. You get to pay for a full price with ZERO interest over the 20 month and after the 20 months you save that $20 per month ($20x4 months=$80 savings again)
The other rate plan is the Classic plan. You would have paid $419 (less $50 rebate) up front for the phone and paid more for your monthly rate plan. In fact you would end up paying more over the life of the contract with the classic plan.
You got a great phone for $250 down ( $169 less up front ) a lower rate plan, you pay the balance of the price of the phone over $20 months interest free.
Face it, you go the best rate plan at the least expensive up front cost for the Note II at Tmobile. Be happy
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That is def the way to go. I was not done paying on my galaxy 2 and they let me upgrade to the note 2 anyway for 249.99 and I just sold the galaxy s2 on ebay for 285. So the note 2 was free for me. Love it!
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acne626 said:
She told me $250 + tax. So I called the T-mo store asking the lady to upgrade it for me and I will pick up the phone later. But when I trying to pay, they told me $250 is down payment, I have to pay$20 for 20 months!!!!! the saleswoman never mentioned about $20 for 20months.
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I paid $250 up-front for the phone. I converted my Classic Plan to a Value Plan, which saved me exactly $20/month, and they actually went back so that this month's bill (October) is also the discounted Value Plan, so I save $20 on my Oct & Nov bill. Starting with my December bill, T-Mobile starts the $20/month payment for the phone, which is already paid-for by the $20/month I saved by switching plans.
So...
I pay $20/month for the phone, but saved $20/month by switching plans, so the extra $400 is taken care-of.
My first two months of the new contract does not include a $20/month payment for the phone, so that money I save each month by switching plans ($40) goes in my pocket.
I basically only paid $250 down-payment for the phone out of my pocket - Technically, I should subtract the $40 saved from the first 2 months on the Value Plan, so I really paid $210 for the phone (plus taxes) and kept all the features I loved from my previous T-Mobile plan. Then Gazelle is willing to take my current phone for $100 - I may try for more on eBay.
I'm assuming your set-up is similar.
Um, I think you won...
This is how I got my Note II. Pretty good deal if you ask me.
The "value plan" pricing is only attractive when you don't factor in the installment plan for your device
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Individual Classic plan on 2 yr contract:
$419 + ($90/mo x 24 mos) = $2579 less $50 rebate= $2529
Individual Value plan on 2 yr. contract:
$250 + ($20/mo x 24 mos) + ($70/mo x 24 mos) = $2330
Full retail on $30 prepaid for 2 yrs. / $50 prepaid / $70 prepaid
$650 + ($30/mo x 24 mos) = $1370 $1850 $2030
Prepaid is the clear winner for individual service.
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Individual Classic plan on 2 yr contract:
$419 + ($90/mo x 24 mos) = $2579 less $50 rebate= $2529
Individual Value plan on 2 yr. contract:
$250 + ($20/mo x 24 mos) + ($70/mo x 24 mos) = $2330
Full retail on $30 prepaid for 2 yrs. / $50 prepaid / $70 prepaid
$650 + ($30/mo x 24 mos) = $1370 $1850 $2030
Prepaid is the clear winner for individual service.
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Does prepaid Have unlimited data? It doesn't and that why theextra 3O0$ is worth it to me! It makes my note come ALIVE
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Does prepaid Have unlimited data? It doesn't and that why theextra 3O0$ is worth it to me! It makes my note come ALIVE
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Actually it does have unlimited. But you get throttled down after 5GB. Don't we all? I'm on the $30/mo prepaid plan I got online. Only has 100 minutes talk, unlimited text and unlimited data. I still get hspa+ speeds. Which makes the data service the same as that of post-paid.
ssCISengineer said:
Does prepaid Have unlimited data? It doesn't and that why theextra 3O0$ is worth it to me! It makes my note come ALIVE
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Unlimited data but it throttles to 2G speeds after 5GB. Works for me
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Actually it does have unlimited. But you get throttled down after 5GB. Don't we all? I'm on the $30/mo prepaid plan I got online. Only has 100 minutes talk, unlimited text and unlimited data. I still get hspa+ speeds. Which makes the data service the same as that of post-paid.
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Not exactly, we don't get to roam for data. And T-Mobile has some great roaming agreements including AT&T. I still prefer the prepaid plan but it's worth noting.
^^ In that case, it's almost the same.
But the point of prepaid is you WON'T" need roaming. Just pop in a new sim.
I've pre-purchased sims for Asia and Europe from ebay, prior to my trips. Worked perfectly when I arrived at my destinations. Or you could just wait until you get there and purchase them from local stores.
Although for business folks, I understand the transitions has to be more smooth.
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Individual Classic plan on 2 yr contract:
$419 + ($90/mo x 24 mos) = $2579 less $50 rebate= $2529
Individual Value plan on 2 yr. contract:
$250 + ($20/mo x 24 mos) + ($70/mo x 24 mos) = $2330
Full retail on $30 prepaid for 2 yrs. / $50 prepaid / $70 prepaid
$650 + ($30/mo x 24 mos) = $1370 $1850 $2030
Prepaid is the clear winner for individual service.
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for your classic plan calc, why are you calculating it at $90/mo for the plan? unlimited 4g plan is 79.99 ($80)
the value plan is actually only $20/mo for 20[/b months, not 24, and plan per month is $50/mo for unlimited 4g (no hotspot)
the prepaid cards seem to have caps at 100mb/2gb/5gb respectively so it might not be the best solution for some people.
at least these are the rates where i am (SF bay area). i guess it may differ by location? i'm using the value plan which is pretty much $250 + $20/mo for 20months ($400) + $44.99/mo (if i remember correctly) with 2 year contract which adds up to $1970.
Jinra321 said:
for your classic plan calc, why are you calculating it at $90/mo for the plan? unlimited 4g plan is 79.99 ($80)
the value plan is actually only $20/mo for 20[/b months, not 24, and plan per month is $50/mo for unlimited 4g (no hotspot)
the prepaid cards seem to have caps at 100mb/2gb/5gb respectively so it might not be the best solution for some people.
at least these are the rates where i am (SF bay area). i guess it may differ by location? i'm using the value plan which is pretty much $250 + $20/mo for 20months ($400) + $44.99/mo (if i remember correctly) with 2 year contract which adds up to $1970.
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The $44.99 price value plan misses key features. If you want to quote the price please list what features the plan include.
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WARNING!
To the OP
WARNING!!
There's a $200 fee when switching from Classic to Value plan. Make sure they didn't just screw you by switching 3 lines from classic to value, $600.
1) New 24 month contract
2) $200 per line to switch to new contract
3) Paying full for the phone is not so bad with the installments, and if you have 3 lines, the plan pays for itself on savings to not worry about the extra $20 (unless there are 3 new phones and not just one...)
Regardless of what you may have done, you have 14 days to change your mind. That is, if you decide that you want to go back to classic, or that you don't want the phone, etc, just go back to T-Mo store to get it all sorted out. Not sure if you did it all over the phone if they'll tell you that you have to cancel over the phone and ship the phone back to them.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do, but I'd warn you to watch out for those $600 in fees. They'd screw your life, and T-Mo will not let you pay that in installments "Fees must be paid all at once and cannot be placed on recurring charges. This includes ETF and migration fees, as well as activation fees."
Jinra321 said:
for your classic plan calc, why are you calculating it at $90/mo for the plan? unlimited 4g plan is 79.99 ($80)
the value plan is actually only $20/mo for 20[/b months, not 24, and plan per month is $50/mo for unlimited 4g (no hotspot)
the prepaid cards seem to have caps at 100mb/2gb/5gb respectively so it might not be the best solution for some people.
at least these are the rates where i am (SF bay area). i guess it may differ by location? i'm using the value plan which is pretty much $250 + $20/mo for 20months ($400) + $44.99/mo (if i remember correctly) with 2 year contract which adds up to $1970.
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Those were unlimited talk/text/data plans chosen for comparative 2 yr costs. The $80 plan will be $240 less than the 2 yr. grand total but still a hefty difference from prepaid. And when the GN3 or some super phone comes out, I don't have to worry about any ETF before the 2 years is up.
You're right. $20x 24mos is just a typo. It was computed at 20 mos for the grand total.
The T-mobile site shows 2 kinds of $44.99/mo value plans. One plan has talk and text but limits you to just 200mb data. While the other has talk minutes, no text, and 2GB data. For your sake, I hope that is not what you have. As you said prices for services may vary depending on your location.
For prepaid, it's only the $50 and $60 plans that throttle down (not cap) at 100mb and 2gb respectively. Which makes the $30 plan the most appealing, if you can accept the 100 minutes talk time. Anyways, it's only 10cents/min if you ever go over.
To each his own.
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For those who don't like prepaid:
If you buy full price with your credit card. Pay $250 to your cc on due date, then $20/mo for 20 months (probably more like $24/mo because of your APR, but that dwindles down as the balance is being paid off). You can still purchase a classic or value recurring service, but at least not be tied to a 2 yr. plan and no ETF.
You got a good deal. If you got the phone for a discount of $380. You would have to sign up for the $59 1000 minute plan only, not the $39 one.
I have the "value plan" and to include there is a "PHP" include that cover loss, damage, theft, etc. and setup Tmobile Mobile Security which is free for the monthly cost of PHP $7.
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I got my note 2 for $270 plus a $50 mail in rebate. They let me renew my old myfaves plan for 2 years. With the value plan you pay sales tax on the full price of the phone.
HERE IT IS:
This is the chat log from when I switched my plan through the T Mobile website. This is the best way to get this done. Talking to someone on the phone is a bad idea because they will just try and word ninja you into buying something you don't want. At least this way, you'll have a hard copy of exactly what you agreed to and what they told you. Good luck.
!Fides S: Yes, the $25.00 per month on line **** is for the 5GB with hotspot feature with throttling Jacob.
jacob ******: so if I switch to the $20.00 per month unlimited data plan I will save money and have no throttling and lose only hotspot feature?
!Fides S: That is correct.
jacob ******: sounds like a good idea to me
jacob ******: and with change my bill will decrease by $5.00 per month correct?
!Fides S: That is correct, Jacob.
jacob ******: I currently pay $92.97 and that will change to $87.97 per month then? If that is correct, can we make this change now?
!Fides S: Upon checking your account, your estimated monthly bill is $96.19. With the change to the unlimited data, your estimated monthly bill will decrease by $5.00.
:good:
I used the chat option on the website to change the plan after reading THIS.
Were you also still in your contract per the first thread? One would think if you're still in your contract you would have no choice but to keep the price until the contract expires? While it would be awesome to us, wouldn't tmo be losing money in that case?
You guys also may want to check and see if you were stuck with a $30 charge to change plans. I was stuck with this when I argued my wifes data plan and wanted truly unlimited because it was the same price. They changed it, but stuck us with that $30 fee.
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Were you also still in your contract per the first thread? One would think if you're still in your contract you would have no choice but to keep the price until the contract expires? While it would be awesome to us, wouldn't tmo be losing money in that case?
You guys also may want to check and see if you were stuck with a $30 charge to change plans. I was stuck with this when I argued my wifes data plan and wanted truly unlimited because it was the same price. They changed it, but stuck us with that $30 fee.
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No additional contract was discussed and I did not do the typical 'I understand I am entering an agreement...' song and dance about any fees that would be charged. I all went pretty smooth IMHO. :laugh: :good:
You need to be out of contract in order to use this data plan. Tmobile put me on a "bridge to value" plan until my current contract expires. It's cheaper than the classic plan I was on, but more expensive than their new uncarrier plans.
Towle said:
You need to be out of contract in order to use this data plan. Tmobile put me on a "bridge to value" plan until my current contract expires. It's cheaper than the classic plan I was on, but more expensive than their new uncarrier plans.
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Not based off of contract. Its based off of upgrade tenure. You can fully switch over 18 months after the last discount you took on a phone.. So typically 6 months before your contract end date
On bridge to value you're paying $15/month for unlimited 4g but more on you're base plan than a full value plan
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Not based off of contract. Its based off of upgrade tenure. You can fully switch over 18 months after the last discount you took on a phone.. So typically 6 months before your contract end date
On bridge to value you're paying $15/month for unlimited 4g but more on you're base plan than a full value plan
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The person I talked to switched us to 2.5gb for $20 on the bridge to value. He said we can fully switch all lines to the uncarrier plan once our contract is up in November. A couple of the lines are only 2 months into the last phone upgrade.
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Towle said:
The person I talked to switched us to 2.5gb for $20 on the bridge to value. He said we can fully switch all lines to the uncarrier plan once our contract is up in November. A couple of the lines are only 2 months into the last phone upgrade.
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You need to get that fixed... Bridge to value 2gb is only $5 and unlimited 4g is $15
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You need to get that fixed... Bridge to value 2gb is only $5 and unlimited 4g is $15
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What are the plans they're advertising on their website then? They include 500mb of data and it's $10 to add 2gb.
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Towle said:
What are the plans they're advertising on their website then? They include 500mb of data and it's $10 to add 2gb.
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That's the uncarrier plan. 50 for unlimited talk and text and data w/500mb of 4g. $10 per 2gb extra(with unlimited hotspot throttled at your phones limit) or $20 for unlimited 4g w/500mb of hotspot ( capped ) and you can buy additional hotspot at $10 per 2gb ( unlim hotspot not available with unlimited phone 4g )
Got my tethering working now.
Sent while sleeping in chair.
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You need to get that fixed... Bridge to value 2gb is only $5 and unlimited 4g is $15
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I just have to post my findings here.
I talked to Tmobile, and they say there is no such thing as $5 and $15 data.
They put us on a plan which is $100 for 2 lines w/ unlimited talk and text + 500mb data. It's either $20 to add 2gb or $30 for unlimited.
They did say that our bill would drop about $70 once we're out of contract and switch to the value plan, so maybe those prices pertain to straight value instead of the bridge to value plans..?
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I just have to post my findings here.
I talked to Tmobile, and they say there is no such thing as $5 and $15 data.
They put us on a plan which is $100 for 2 lines w/ unlimited talk and text + 500mb data. It's either $20 to add 2gb or $30 for unlimited.
They did say that our bill would drop about $70 once we're out of contract and switch to the value plan, so maybe those prices pertain to straight value instead of the bridge to value plans..?
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The plan they put you on is a straight value plan not bridge to value. The $5 and $15 prices are for bridge to value
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clninja said:
The plan they put you on is a straight value plan not bridge to value. The $5 and $15 prices are for bridge to value
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If I'm on the straight value plan now, then what's the cheaper plan called that I am waiting to be put on once my contract ends?
Edit: I think where the confusion is coming from is that they are calling the new uncarrier plans the value plans. When I check online, my new plan is called unlimited classic, which is an old value plan.
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Uncarrier Value plan is 2 lines for 80+tax for unlim talk and text and 500mb 4g . then $10/line for 2.5gb or $20/line for unlim 4g
That's without insurance. Insurance is 7.99/line extra
Value plan is 2 lines 80+tax for unlim talk and text. Doesn't include data. $5/line for 500mb. $10/line for 2gb and $20/line for unlim 4g.
Insurance is same price. 7.99/line
Bridge to value gets complicated
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Edit: I think where the confusion is coming from is that they are calling the new uncarrier plans the value plans. When I check online, my new plan is called unlimited classic, which is an old value plan.
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Unlimited classic would be bridge to value. On a bridge to value you should be able to get 2gb for $5 per line or unlim 4g for $15 per line.
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Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
No. If you have Unlimited Nationwide 4G you will never be throttled.
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
Both.
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
That's up to you.
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Not a chance, this is their main selling point.
CZ Eddie said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
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1) With the unlimited nationwide 4g data plan, there is no throttling and its unlimited 4G data.
2) Yes it does apply to LTE but you need a LTE enabled device.
3)If you think that the 5 dollar difference is worth it. But in all reality its unlimited everything with no data caps when you get the 70 dollar plan, plus LTE is coming to your area soon so i'd go for it.
4)I highly doubt they would do something like that as they are trying to get ahead of Sprint, At&t, Verizon with the simple choice uncarrier plans.
lol someone answered while i was typing...oops.
Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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Keep in mind - with AT&T you gotta contract for that $199 phone. Whereas with TMobile, you don't have a contract..
CZ Eddie said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
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1) hell no
2) full LTE
3) hell no
4) hell no
coyttl said:
Keep in mind - with AT&T you gotta contract for that $199 phone. Whereas with TMobile, you don't have a contract..
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Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
Sounds nice I guess.
I wish T-Mobile website had a "chat" capability so I can talk to a salesperson. But they removed that feature.
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Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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you dont have to pay $20 a month for 24 months if you pay the $149, and then make a $300 payment after you account is created. you'll only pay $20 a month for 9 months after.
this is what i did.
f*** ATT bro.
f*** em'
make the jump.
i was with ATT mobile for ~15 years and couldn't be happier ive left those f**ks
f*****g bit*es
CZ Eddie said:
Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
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I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
Regarding 2) Faux 4G/LTE:
I know quite a lot of ppl have issue with this as a matter of topic. But to be honest the "faux" 4G / LTE is pretty darn fast. It's HSPDA+ which at its worst runs at 4meg down and 1 meg up. I know plenty of ppl in Nyc that don't get that on their cable modems reliably. Also it's pretty challenging to really push the need for more unless you are downloading a rom.
I think it's a lot of media hype that ppl "need" 20 meg down and 10 meg up... It's like advertising a car that can do a 200+ mph top speed. Is it nice to have? Sure it is... Do you often have the opportunity to show it off I real life or day to day use? Not really... 100mph is plenty fast lol
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I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
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Awesome idea except that when you get a subsidized priced phone from att you are committing to 2 more years under contract with them...
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CZ Eddie said:
Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
Sounds nice I guess.
I wish T-Mobile website had a "chat" capability so I can talk to a salesperson. But they removed that feature.
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No, the phone is not a contract. It's just T-Mobile financing the phone to you. Just like buying a car, you put so much down and you pay it off when you pay it off, but your MINIMUM monthly payment is 20 bucks.
If you put the down payment, then 200 down the first month, and another 200 down the next month, and another 80 or so down the third month then cancel your service you now own the phone completely and T-Mobile will give you an unlock code and be like "Alright bro, thanks for the business, hope you come back yo." No early termination fees, no nothing.
However, if you cancel your service while you still owe money on the phone, you still owe money on the phone. You either pay it off at a rate of at minimum 20 per month OR you don't and they sell the finance to a collection agency.
It's just simple financing rather than being put into actual contracts like the big guys.
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I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
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...except the ETF for ATT is 325 dollars... plus tax... plus tax when you buy the phone for 199... So you're looking at 525 plus tax for a phone you can MAYBE sell for 600. Not to mention whatever the rediculous cost of the first month plus activation fees, plus hidden charges, plus whatever the **** ATT feels like adding to your first (only in this case) bill.
Plus I'm sure ATT has somewhere in fine print you will have to pay more if you try some stupid **** like this.
Great idea, you should try it and end up paying probably around 150 bucks for the lesson.
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You either pay it off completely you don't and they sell the finance to a collection agency.
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FTFY. If you end service before the end of the phone payment term, you owe the balance of the phone there. If it's $20, you pay $20, if it's $200, you pay $200.
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FTFY. If you end service before the end of the phone payment term, you owe the balance of the phone there. If it's $20, you pay $20, if it's $200, you pay $200.
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Oh really, I thought you could still pay it monthly... Well that kinda sucks.
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Oh really, I thought you could still pay it monthly... Well that kinda sucks.
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No I'm pretty sure you can still pay it off monthly even after you cancel the service according to one of the corporate T-Mobile agents I spoke to.
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No I'm pretty sure you can still pay it off monthly even after you cancel the service according to one of the corporate T-Mobile agents I spoke to.
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Then again I would NOT trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They no nothing. I asked 3 different people and they told me I could not use the 100 dollar cards that you can buy at walmart or target for my simple choice plan. They told me there was no way and there are no prepaid cards that allow you to do this. The next day I was at target and saw the card.... It clearly states "For use with prepaid or monthly plans". Bought it and used it no issues.
Haven't believed a word from their mouth since.
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Then again I would NOT trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They no nothing. I asked 3 different people and they told me I could not use the 100 dollar cards that you can buy at walmart or target for my simple choice plan. They told me there was no way and there are no prepaid cards that allow you to do this. The next day I was at target and saw the card.... It clearly states "For use with prepaid or monthly plans". Bought it and used it no issues.
Haven't believed a word from their mouth since.
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That's bad luck lol. Usually the people I talk to are usually right but I do customer service over chat.
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Yeah, it's really clever marketing by T-Mobile, this whole "un-carrier" thing. You end up paying $20/month for the privilege of not having a contract. I don't know about most of you, but I don't switch carriers THAT often. And even so, if your termination fee is pro-rated, then why not let the carrier eat the subsidy for as long as you were a customer? You're going to have service for a period of time anyway, you might as well get device subsidy credit for it. With T-Mobile you get nada. Assuming you're a T-Mobile customer for 2 years, you just paid full price for the phone AND $70/month for service. It's really genius and AT&T has to be pissed they didn't think of it first those livered lilly money grubers!
I have the AT&T Unlimited Data plan, but at 5gb and then throttled, they can s!#k it.
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Yeah, it's really clever marketing by T-Mobile, this whole "un-carrier" thing. You end up paying $20/month for the privilege of not having a contract. I don't know about most of you, but I don't switch carriers THAT often. And even so, if your termination fee is pro-rated, then why not let the carrier eat the subsidy for as long as you were a customer? You're going to have service for a period of time anyway, you might as well get device subsidy credit for it. With T-Mobile you get nada. Assuming you're a T-Mobile customer for 2 years, you just paid full price for the phone AND $70/month for service. It's really genius and AT&T has to be pissed they didn't think of it first those livered lilly money grubers!
I have the AT&T Unlimited Data plan, but at 5gb and then throttled, they can s!#k it.
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From each carrier's website, new contract, two lines, assuming purchase of two S4s:
Sprint: $249.99 per phone ($149.99 if transferring your number), $149.99 per month for 1500 shared minutes and unlimited text/data ($209 per month for unlimited everything)
AT&T: $199.99 per phone, $149.99 per month for 550 shared minutes, unlimited text, 3 GB data per phone (more per month for more minutes, 209.99 if you want unlimited; $20 extra per phone to upgrade to 5 GB, their max allowed)
Verizon: $199.99 per phone, $149.99 per month for unlimited talk/text and 4 GB of shared data ($160 for 6 GB, up to $190 for 12 GB)
T-Mobile: $149.99 per phone up front, $140 (includes phone payment) for unlimited talk/text and 2.5 GB of data per phone, $160 for unlimited data instead
*That* is the point of T-Mobile's plans, the no-contract thing is merely a nice convenience. Even including the phone cost it's $10/month cheaper than the other carriers for their cheapest useful plans (assuming you want more than a few hundred megs of data each month) and just $10 more per month than the fairly limited plans Verizon and AT&T offer at that price level gets you full unlimited.
Is Sprint forcing their new contracts upon renewal? I have an unlimited talk text data w/450 mins currently, but when I was trying to preorder on Amazon, I had no option to keep what I have.
jfg69 said:
Is Sprint forcing their new contracts upon renewal? I have an unlimited talk text data w/450 mins currently, but when I was trying to preorder on Amazon, I had no option to keep what I have.
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I spoke with sprint yesterday. (had the same plan as you) they switched me to another plan with no contract renewal. Went from $82 to $64 a month. Unlimited talk text and 600 megs of data. I average 75 megs a Month outside my house so this is a good deal for me.
Hmmm.. the $64 number is def nicer, but my data really fluctuates, mostly depending on wifi availablity at work and on the road.. I guess i'm going to have to take a look at my data over time and see.
jhill110 said:
I spoke with sprint yesterday. (had the same plan as you) they switched me to another plan with no contract renewal. Went from $82 to $64 a month. Unlimited talk text and 600 megs of data. I average 75 megs a Month outside my house so this is a good deal for me.
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How is that at all a good deal. U r losing unlimited data. I talked to Sprint and they said I can keep the same 450 unlimited data plan at $69.99 when I upgrade at best buy. I enjoy being able to use 2 gb of data or 20 and not worry about it.
I had the same plan, $69.99 + $10 premium data and $11 TEP. Sprint put me on the my way with unlimited everything for 1 cent more. They remove the 10 dollar premium data and the cost is $80. With $11 TEP it comes to the same price plus a penny. Never have to worry about number of calls or data.
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No they arent. I'm on an everything data family plan and upgrading through best buy and can keep my existing plan
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ryanalan82 said:
How is that at all a good deal. U r losing unlimited data. I talked to Sprint and they said I can keep the same 450 unlimited data plan at $69.99 when I upgrade at best buy. I enjoy being able to use 2 gb of data or 20 and not worry about it.
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I also was able to keep my current plan at best buy. 1500 min for landlines calls all other calls unlimited work unlimited text and data $149.99 for 2 lines or $75 for one.. best buy has never even asked me if I wanted to changeplans. And I have always upgraded thru them
I didn't have an issue. I ordered online through Sprint.
Overall, it would have cost me the same either way. Data usage is a big deal for me since I use around 100 to 120gb per month on the phone.
I may have 450 anytime minutes, but in total, I use around 15 per month, LOL.
When I was on a family plan and bought my note 3 from amazon, they didn't change the plans, all they change is any possibility for a employee discount. I went to my own plan and had the unlimited my way. Was paying $87.00. I went to the easy pay with the preorder of the note 4, so I switched to the $60.00 unlimited plan. I'd you want to renew the discount, they just have you renew it, depending on the plan, it may just cover the data though.
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You can carry-over your current plan. I just pre-ordered directly from Sprint (since BB didn't have any left in charcoal), and I carried over my old Everything 450 plan. The only thing that you need to do is renew for another 2 yrs.
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I had the same plan, $69.99 + $10 premium data and $11 TEP. Sprint put me on the my way with unlimited everything for 1 cent more. They remove the 10 dollar premium data and the cost is $80. With $11 TEP it comes to the same price plus a penny. Never have to worry about number of calls or data.
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Yoshi1221 said:
When I was on a family plan and bought my note 3 from amazon, they didn't change the plans, all they change is any possibility for a employee discount. I went to my own plan and had the unlimited my way. Was paying $87.00. I went to the easy pay with the preorder of the note 4, so I switched to the $60.00 unlimited plan. I'd you want to renew the discount, they just have you renew it, depending on the plan, it may just cover the data though.
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Dont the "my way/easy way" plans have you paying full price for the phone over time?
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jfg69 said:
Dont the "my way/easy way" plans have you paying full price for the phone over time?
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I wondered that myself... It's like they are tricking people... Hey you can pay 10 less a month if you sign up for easy pay... "but that is 30 a month..."
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I wondered that myself... It's like they are tricking people... Hey you can pay 10 less a month if you sign up for easy pay... "but that is 30 a month..."
Someone please clarify...
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Yup, not so good of a deal IMO..
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Yup, not so good of a deal IMO..
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yeah i am with you i don't think it is that great...i was able to carry over my current plan when i upgraded and i upgraded via amazon.
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Dont the "my way/easy way" plans have you paying full price for the phone over time?
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I did the my way through a 2 year contract, the 60 unlimited plan is through easy pay however.
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Ok I have been trying to figure out the best deal/plan combo and here is what I found.....
If you can keep your old plan and like please do because the new ones with contract renewal aren't worth it. Here is what I found and by all means correct me if I'm wrong on anything.
Unlimited my way plan is $50 unlimited talk and text $30 unlimited data=$80/month but you have the ability to upgrade after 24 months( it's suppose to be new it's not 18 months anymore).
So you pay $300 for the Note 4(if you don't do the trade in thing) +80/month = $2220 (plus taxes and fees that vary) over 2 years
The plan buying the phone out right or with Easy Pay is $30 unlimited talk and text and $30 unlimited data=$60/month but YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPGRADE even after 24 months but by then your phone will be paid for so you can buy another on or do Easy Pay again.
So to buy the phone out right you pay $720 (again if you don't do the trade in thing) +$60/month =$2160 over 2 years
AND to buy the phone with Easy Pay is $0 + $90/month ($60+$30EP payment) for 42 months =$2160 over 2 years
As you can see you come out cheaper with the latter two options plus you aren't renewing your contract. I went with the Easy Pay option myself but you have to do what works for you. Again if you found different info please feel free to let everyone know.
I kept my 1500 min share plan of ole
PHAMOS1 said:
Ok I have been trying to figure out the best deal/plan combo and here is what I found.....
If you can keep your old plan and like please do because the new ones with contract renewal aren't worth it. Here is what I found and by all means correct me if I'm wrong on anything.
Unlimited my way plan is $50 unlimited talk and text $30 unlimited data=$80/month but you have the ability to upgrade after 24 months( it's suppose to be new it's not 18 months anymore).
So you pay $300 for the Note 4(if you don't do the trade in thing) +80/month = $2220 (plus taxes and fees that vary) over 2 years
The plan buying the phone out right or with Easy Pay is $30 unlimited talk and text and $30 unlimited data=$60/month but YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPGRADE even after 24 months but by then your phone will be paid for so you can buy another on or do Easy Pay again.
So to buy the phone out right you pay $720 (again if you don't do the trade in thing) +$60/month =$2160 over 2 years
AND to buy the phone with Easy Pay is $0 + $90/month ($60+$30EP payment) for 42 months =$2160 over 2 years
As you can see you come out cheaper with the latter two options plus you aren't renewing your contract. I went with the Easy Pay option myself but you have to do what works for you. Again if you found different info please feel free to let everyone know.
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The thought of paying FULL price for a phone makes me crazy..
I was under the impression that here is some sort of subsidy that is given to them by the manufacturers for using those phones..
Meanwhile, I am happy ENOUGH to keep my current 450min/unlimited text and data plan with Sprint. If I HAVE to change plans, a big FU to Sprint and their lousy service and sub par customer service (In my experience) and I will just go with some other rip off company..
If you were a single user, and wanted to sign up with a two year plan, BB pre-order was the way to go. Traded in old phone, and with the $50 pre-order card, plus $200 trade in credit, my part at pickup was $49. Using the plan at the bottom of the page here http://www.sprint.com/landings/datashare/index_c.html?view=unlimitedtalk&INTNAV=eSLlans$85Unlimited, I was able to lower my payments from $79 a month (450min talk, unlimited txt/data for $69 + $10 premium data) to $60 a month ($30 unlimited talk/txt, $30 unlimited data). Can't beat that anywhere. I know it sucks for anyone that didn't jump on the deal. Right now, the cheapest way is to pay up front the $299, and use the $60 unlimited talk/txt/data deal. Yeah, I can wait to get a new phone every 2 years, so this one is a smaller hit per month, which is important. Biting my nails for the Note 6...lol.
Edit: I think I need to eat some crow. I just noticed the $25/month fee they are charging until I'm upgrade eligible. Think I'll be calling customer retention later this morning, and switching back to my old plan.
PHAMOS1 said:
Ok I have been trying to figure out the best deal/plan combo and here is what I found.....
If you can keep your old plan and like please do because the new ones with contract renewal aren't worth it. Here is what I found and by all means correct me if I'm wrong on anything.
Unlimited my way plan is $50 unlimited talk and text $30 unlimited data=$80/month but you have the ability to upgrade after 24 months( it's suppose to be new it's not 18 months anymore).
So you pay $300 for the Note 4(if you don't do the trade in thing) +80/month = $2220 (plus taxes and fees that vary) over 2 years
The plan buying the phone out right or with Easy Pay is $30 unlimited talk and text and $30 unlimited data=$60/month but YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPGRADE even after 24 months but by then your phone will be paid for so you can buy another on or do Easy Pay again.
So to buy the phone out right you pay $720 (again if you don't do the trade in thing) +$60/month =$2160 over 2 years
AND to buy the phone with Easy Pay is $0 + $90/month ($60+$30EP payment) for 42 months =$2160 over 2 years
As you can see you come out cheaper with the latter two options plus you aren't renewing your contract. I went with the Easy Pay option myself but you have to do what works for you. Again if you found different info please feel free to let everyone know.
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Yes all correct. One thing you left out is optional $5 month upgrade fee. If you pay extra $5 month you can upgrade every 12 months. I chose this option so I can always have a new phone every yr. You just have to pay the taxes on the phone each yr. This yr for the Note 4 it was $52 in taxes and I gave the note 3 back.