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about titanium backup

so i want to change again my rom again but now i have a lot of things on my phone that important to me
so i would like to use titanium backup but im not quit sure how to use properly
so can somebody explain to me how do i backup everything
and when i mean everything i mean like saves from games and sms and music and pictures and more
so please i need your help
thanks

Using Titanium Backup:
1. Menu -> Batch -> Select RUN Backup all user apps + System data
2. The backup will be in the folder on ur SD card. Copy and save it in case u earse the entire SD card
Using Recovery:
To backup enitre ROM which ever you are currently using. Reboot into recovery..
Currently I use Clockword Mod, so I know how to do it only by this one
1. Reboot into recovery mode.
2.Under Backup & Restore do the nandroid Backup which backsup the currently using ROM with data.
3. This will also be under the folder ClockwordMod in ur SD card backit up in case u do SD card formatting
For SMS, Call Logs & Pictures I use McAfee Wavesecure which I bought long back and backsup all the data.. not sure about Titanium backup for SMS & stuff...
I think this might help you.

Excuse a newbie question, but doesn't the nandroid recovery just take a snapshot of the current setup with ROM and all?
How do you use it with a new ROM?
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You use the nandroid if the new rom doesnt work or you of some other reason want to go back to the old rom.

aswinarun said:
Using Titanium Backup:
1. Menu -> Batch -> Select RUN Backup all user apps + System data
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Don't backup System Data if you are changing from one ROM to another, you will invariably get problems backing up system files that won't work smoothly with the new ROM. Just backup user apps.

Kalavere said:
Don't backup System Data if you are changing from one ROM to another, you will invariably get problems backing up system files that won't work smoothly with the new ROM. Just backup user apps.
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Hi,if i backup system data but do not restore them..will it still conflict?

JxXxn said:
Hi,if i backup system data but do not restore them..will it still conflict?
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No, that's fine. You can back both up and just restore apps and app data with no problem. I've never backed up system data I really don't see the point, I guess you could backup and restore to the same ROM, but i'd rather just start afresh each time.

Kalavere said:
Just backup user apps.
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I couldn't agree more with this.
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Being able to backup system data selectively isn't a bad idea, i.e. Wi-Fi access points and literally one or two other things, if someone is after a system backup this is where nandroid comes into play, in my opinion.

I do agree backup for user apps. Also I would prefer Nandroid to restore the old ROM fully. Since I have been using some CM7 RC builds & also nightly builds.. i started to restore system data as well, which literally helps me to have all settings as well.
Also he can run Restore apps with data alone...
But it is upto OP which method he prefers..

Kalavere said:
Being able to backup system data selectively isn't a bad idea, i.e. Wi-Fi access points and literally one or two other things, if someone is after a system backup this is where nandroid comes into play, in my opinion.
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This is for sure, things like bookmarks, user dictionary, wifi are nice to be able to just restore.
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mistaliu said:
This is for sure, things like bookmarks, user dictionary, wifi are nice to be able to just restore.
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I may have gotten confused....
is there a method to selectively backup / restore bookmarks and wifi (wep/wpa passphrases) ?

fred_be9300 said:
I may have gotten confused....
is there a method to selectively backup / restore bookmarks and wifi (wep/wpa passphrases) ?
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Open the app and select Backup/Restore and long press on the system data you want to backup. You should exercise caution and not backup system data that will potentially disrupt another ROM. Wi-Fi Access Points, User Dictionary etc can all be found in there. Hope this helps.

Kalavere said:
Open the app and select Backup/Restore and long press on the system data you want to backup. You should exercise caution and not backup system data that will potentially disrupt another ROM. Wi-Fi Access Points, User Dictionary etc can all be found in there. Hope this helps.
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Or the way I did it was just go under the backup/restore tab and scroll till you find what you want to backup ie. Bookmarks, wifi, etc then you are just backing up what you want and need
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I have a question regarding Titanium that I hope you can help with...
I've just upgraded to the Gingerbread RUU, so I lost root and can't get it back, or frankly want to have it back, but I've backed up a number of apps with Titanium Backup, and is there any way to reinstall them?
They're all saved to my SD card, and Titanium Backup obviously refuses to work.
I can't and don't want to get root back, so is there any way to manually use these backups, or use them with another program?

vszulc said:
I have a question regarding Titanium that I hope you can help with...
I've just upgraded to the Gingerbread RUU, so I lost root and can't get it back, or frankly want to have it back, but I've backed up a number of apps with Titanium Backup, and is there any way to reinstall them?
They're all saved to my SD card, and Titanium Backup obviously refuses to work.
I can't and don't want to get root back, so is there any way to manually use these backups, or use them with another program?
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You can recover the apps by searching the TitanuimBackup folder and extracting the APKs from the Zip files. It's obviously not possible to recover the data as it's zipped up in a tarball and it requires Superuser rights to access if using Titanium, however I don't know that it's not possible to manually replace the data. If you unzip the tarball and extract the folder to your desktop. If it's the BBC News app for example the folder should look like this after you extract it.
'Data/Data/bbc.mobile.news.uk/cache
-----------------------------------/databases
-----------------------------------/files
-----------------------------------/shared_prefs'
I don't know if you can access Data/Data from the phones internal memory without root, I am using Root Explorer. Try with Astro, I am guessing you can read/write to Data/Data without having S-Off as I am not getting prompted to switch to R/W to delete files (I have Root and S-Off).
If you can read and write to Data/Data without root and S-Off you can manually copy and paste the data over after installing the app, it will take ages to do if you've got any number of apps and I am not ever sure it will work, but I suppose it's worth a go.
I hope this makes sense, it makes semi sense to me as I read it back!

what to back up

wanting to install a new rom but not sure what to back up. do i use titanium backup for apps n data and rom manager to back up my rom? or a nandroid backup. will that back up everythung messages, pictures ect. also if i dont like the rom i install can i use rom manager to restore my stock rom? or do i use the nandroid restore and will my homescreen be exactly the same?
if any1 could shed some light into a good debloated sence rom it would be shound other than hensmod5
thanks

apps and data -> titanium backup
sms -> sms backup and restore
contacts -> back them up to google if you haven't already
use the same apps/google sync to restore everything after installing your new rom.
pictures are stored on your sd card, and aren't touched by ROM.
always nandroid backup before making big changes like a new ROM, either from rom manager or directly in recovery. if you want to go back just wipe everything and nandroid restore from recovery, everything will be EXACTLY the same state you left it: apps, texts, homescreens...
you can even take your nandroid backups from your sd card in clockworkmod/backup and put them on PC for safekeeping, just in case.

Yes exactly what you said provided your rooted.
Titanium backup - apps
Rom manager (clockwork recovery) - complete system backup that you can restore should anything go wrong or you wanna go back to how things are now.
Also you could sync your Calender and contacts with your Google account, goto settings then accounts and sync and make sure its selected under your Google account.
Your pictures and vids are on your SD, so will be unaffected.
Eddiehk6 beat me to it lol
PS - SENSELESS by germzii is a great debloated rom, very fast and loads of space.

U can sms backup pro for sms back up,for pics,music videos u can use box as it provide 50GB of storage.for settings and apps as said by the other members use titanium backup.

nandroid backup because it will backup everything on your phone, but not on the sd card

[Q] nandroid backup doubts

can someone help me?
the wonder is my first android and I wanted to learn while before hacking on it ...
last night I did the root and installed ClockworkMod 6.0.1.2 to make a nandroid before flashing a ICS rom.
but I have come some doubts:
1) the nandroid with clockworkmod is done either on internal mem on external sd right? I tried with the internal memory and I did a backup of 17MB ... I have copied to the PC the folder ClockworkMod always 17MB: they seemed to me just a few for a nandroid backup... I did it again ... the same ...
2) then I added the external sd and I deleted the two previous backups from internal mem and redid the backup to external sd ... the process took about twenty minutes (slower then before), and in fact has made ​​a backup of 790mb
3) I try to copy the backup on the PC with the phone attached but it don't work .... I removed the SD card and copied the folder on pc with win7: I did not copy some files because they are "too long" (???)... then I tried to copy it on a pc with ubuntu and makes the copy but when the transfer is finished tells me that the number of files copied is right but instead of 790mb is only 725mb: I need to trust this backup? ?? better to delete and redo everything? I do not want to flash something and do not have a working nandroid...
another question: when I flash a rom and do ALL wipe the sd external is reset? no I think, right? and to put on the contacts and messages and the settings I use those saved using kies or do I need to do a better titanium backup or save contacts synced to gmail?
sorry for the many questions but as I'm a true noob and before I do damage I want to have in mind what I was doing
I'm waiting your reply before flash a rom... thanks

bennymax said:
can someone help me?
the wonder is my first android and I wanted to learn while before hacking on it ...
last night I did the root and installed ClockworkMod 6.0.1.2 to make a nandroid before flashing a ICS rom.
but I have come some doubts:
1) the nandroid with clockworkmod is done either on internal mem on external sd right? I tried with the internal memory and I did a backup of 17MB ... I have copied to the PC the folder ClockworkMod always 17MB: they seemed to me just a few for a nandroid backup... I did it again ... the same ...
2) then I added the external sd and I deleted the two previous backups from internal mem and redid the backup to external sd ... the process took about twenty minutes (slower then before), and in fact has made ​​a backup of 790mb
3) I try to copy the backup on the PC with the phone attached but it don't work .... I removed the SD card and copied the folder on pc with win7: I did not copy some files because they are "too long" (???)... then I tried to copy it on a pc with ubuntu and makes the copy but when the transfer is finished tells me that the number of files copied is right but instead of 790mb is only 725mb: I need to trust this backup? ?? better to delete and redo everything? I do not want to flash something and do not have a working nandroid...
another question: when I flash a rom and do ALL wipe the sd external is reset? no I think, right? and to put on the contacts and messages and the settings I use those saved using kies or do I need to do a better titanium backup or save contacts synced to gmail?
sorry for the many questions but as I'm a true noob and before I do damage I want to have in mind what I was doing
I'm waiting your reply before flash a rom... thanks
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First thing: Why do you need to copy the backup to your PC? I can certainly assure you that the backup is working fine. Just leave your SD card within your device upon backing up. And just leave it there. If you ever really wanted to copy the backup to your pc, well don't get the file size(s) wrong. They will certainly be different since the systems you are trying to copy the files to uses a different file system. So it's normal for them to have different file sizes. To add to that, the CWM uses generated MD5 to confirm that the backup (it's related files) are correct before it will restore a certain backup. If something is wrong or the backup got corrupted, CWM will not continue in restoring it.
Second: when you flash, your personal files in your sd card will remain intact. Flashing (may) be only wiping an SD-EXT if you created such partition in your card since apps uses this. So don't worry.
For most customized ROM, I'm afraid components regarding the communication of your device and Kies won't be integrated since devs prefer your system to be our of bloats as possible. So upon flashing a custom ROM, you might not be able to use Kies anymore. In flashing, internal data such as contacts, messages, APN, wifi(s), etc. will be erased as the system will be erased. So;
For your contacts: Sync it with Google or export them to our SD for later import.
For your APN and messages: There's an app in the Play Store that allows you to backup and restore them.
The titanium backup is a very good tool too. Use it.

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bbmadzky said:
First thing: Why do you need to copy the backup to your PC? I can certainly assure you that the backup is working fine. Just leave your SD card within your device upon backing up. And just leave it there. If you ever really wanted to copy the backup to your pc, well don't get the file size(s) wrong. They will certainly be different since the systems you are trying to copy the files to uses a different file system. So it's normal for them to have different file sizes. To add to that, the CWM uses generated MD5 to confirm that the backup (it's related files) are correct before it will restore a certain backup. If something is wrong or the backup got corrupted, CWM will not continue in restoring it.
Second: when you flash, your personal files in your sd card will remain intact. Flashing (may) be only wiping an SD-EXT if you created such partition in your card since apps uses this. So don't worry.
For most customized ROM, I'm afraid components regarding the communication of your device and Kies won't be integrated since devs prefer your system to be our of bloats as possible. So upon flashing a custom ROM, you might not be able to use Kies anymore. In flashing, internal data such as contacts, messages, APN, wifi(s), etc. will be erased as the system will be erased. So;
For your contacts: Sync it with Google or export them to our SD for later import.
For your APN and messages: There's an app in the Play Store that allows you to backup and restore them.
The titanium backup is a very good tool too. Use it.
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thanks a lot bbmadzky, I understand what you say
I wanna copy backup in my pc to have a secure place where put the first nandroid of my wonder with stock rom as I have bougth it external sd can be corrupted or deleted and have a genuine nandroid of my phone I think is better
just do another backup to ha the certainty to have a good backup and now can I try to flash my first costomized rom
thanks a lot dude
ciao

It's been a pleasure in helping you with your doubt. Happy flashing and don't ever forget to do a nandroid backup.
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This reply may be too late in coming...but I'll post it anyway. First, the size of your created nandroid....17mb.....WAY too small....the size of the backup I made was +/-800mb.
Second....if you REALLY have to copy it to a PC, zip it with minimal compression first....I found from personal experience that it copies MUCH more easily and safely....
Finally, keeping personal data (contacts, SMS, lists of installed apps [not including app data]) safe. You can install apps that will make data files of your texts and installed apps that can be accessed after flashing a custom ROM to enable recovery and re installation, and for your contacts (if you store them on the phone instead of the sim card) you go to your contacts, press the menu button and select import/export, then export to SD card. If you use these apps (appbak and SMS backup and restore) and the export to SD card function on your phone, you will find that data files have been created by using them.....these data files MUST be moved to your EXTERNAL SD card BEFORE flashing your custom ROM. They will be perfectly safe there as long as you haven't played around with the storage configurations on your phone....which I don't believe is possible with a stock ROM anyway....
Good luck and happy flashing
Hope this has helped....if it has, click thanks
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not so late dude
the problem is... I don't have a working backup still now!
I just flased cm9 and RemICS 1.5 rom and every time I tried to make a backup before flashing...
the first time I have the above doubt (as you can read above)
the second time I've tried to install CWM 6.0.1.0 instead 6.0.1.2 and the backup process is finish well (or it was what I belive ) then when I try to comeback to stock version an error has occurred in restore and I must re-do a flash with stock firmware because the SGW was freezed.
I don't know if there are problems with installation of CWM, the release of CWM (now I try with a CWM 5.5.0.4), with the type of backup files (n CWM6 you can choose the type of format file do you have from the backup process) but now before to flash another rom I want to have a WORKING nandroid!
thanks for your reply and your suggests too... maybe make I something wrong but I follow the tools on web and these are simple... maybe is only bad luck... I retry

Dude...if you read my thread here.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846449
And specifically the replies posted by IvanKurnia, you'll find the links (and installation method) for the version of CWM that I'm using.....with success. When you make your nandroid backup, you need to make sure you have enough space for it to complete as you don't get any warning about lack of memory....the backup process will simply stop....and unless you know what to look for, you may not realise.
I'm not totally sure if flashing different versions of CWM on top of each other will cause instability or not....maybe somebody else can answer that one.....
I'd advise getting as much info as you can about EVERYTHING! before you make any more modifications to your phone.....read as many threads and ask as many questions as it takes.....most members of this community will be happy to help (though there are one or two who have a superiority complex...lol)....it's better to ask a hundred questions and get it right, than to ask none and turn your phone into an expensive paperweight.......
CM9...I don't HAVE to.....I just.....can..

first of all: I wanted to write mate not dude sorry for my bad english...
thanks keithross
I read your thread and all the replies in it...
yes the metheod for flashing the CWM is the same I knew. I prefer to flash it whit odin.
I don't think I have problems flashing other versione because I must do a replace of stock firmware before: I set the cell in the status as new... then I reflash on it the CWM.
the only thing I don't have made is to set on USB debugging ON... uhmmm maybe is this the problem?
I try now to flash, make a nandroid, try recovery by nandroid to understand if nandroid works! If not... I try to instal CWM witn the method has showed by ivankurnia
for free space I have enough space in my SD ext card (3gb ca.) and not so many app installed... and yes I use often forum and I think these are the greatest resource on the web xda for android is "the bible" I think so!
p.s. your thread has so many informations I need...

Hi Bennymax, I found ivankurnias method the easiest to use....I'd tried ODIN without success....but successfully installed CWM on the first try with the terminal emulator/busybox method.....others have successfully used this method too. I do still stand by my concerns about flashing different versions of CWM on top of each other as I've come to believe that the recovery partition is separate to the ROM partition and that changing the ROM partition has no effect on the contents of the recovery partition. I hope I'm wrong about that, and that the issues you are having with nandroid backup and restore are as you say bad luck....but I'm not convinced.....having said that, I'm not a developer, and I could be wrong. I feel that it is something that needs researching just in case the luck you've had is not bad, but good in so far as you haven't bricked your phone yet......
Anyway, good luck however you decide to proceed....
Keith
CM9...I don't HAVE to.....I just.....can..

[Q] ROM Hopping Help

I want to hop to a new ROM, but it is a real pain to restore everything. Is there a quick way?
I am on Wompasaurus. Before was LJ1 stock rooted then MA7 DeOdexed then Womp. I want to try some more but hours and hours it takes to get everything running is ridiculous.
I have Titanium Backup, TWRP(GooManager), ROM Manager, ROM Toolbox and SManager. If I need something else, I get it.
SIDE NOTE: I was able to backup the 4.2 Gallery. But Titanium backup cannot find the 4.2 Camera.

Lord Sekhmet said:
I want to hop to a new ROM, but it is a real pain to restore everything. Is there a quick way?
I am on Wompasaurus. Before was LJ1 stock rooted then MA7 DeOdexed then Womp. I want to try some more but hours and hours it takes to get everything running is ridiculous.
I have Titanium Backup, TWRP(GooManager), ROM Manager, ROM Toolbox and SManager. If I need something else, I get it.
SIDE NOTE: I was able to backup the 4.2 Gallery. But Titanium backup cannot find the 4.2 Camera.
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I use Titanium Backup and Backup Your Mobile. Titanuim backup for apps and data. Backup Your Mobile for call logs, sms, mms, user data dictionary and wifi networks. I believe ROM Toolbox will do all of that and more. However just make sure that you save your backups to external sd and not internal sd as you will lose them if you do a full wipe of internal memory when you switch ROMs.
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Small problem. I use extsd2internalsd2.
Where should I put the backup?. Currently I transfer all my backups to my desktop.
EDIT : I installed Backup Your Mobile and ran it. THANKS!!

Lord Sekhmet said:
Small problem. I use extsd2internalsd2.
Where should I put the backup?. Currently I transfer all my backups to my desktop.
EDIT : I installed Backup Your Mobile and ran it. THANKS!!
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Extsd is your external sd which is where you want to keep your backups as well as always keeping a copy some where else like a desktop.
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In case anyone is reading my thread for help / ideas, I figured out a shortcut.
When every app is working, use TB Batch Action -user apps. Save this to some place safe. Before doing a full wipe re-backup apps with changing data . i,e. games

After you get your ROM setup exactly like you want it go into twrp go to backup and make a nandroid backup. Backup your data, boot, and system I believe they are. (The first three options) choose the option to compress the backup as it will save it the exact same way just save space by compressing it and shaving 40-50% off the size.
Then after it says backup wad successful. Reboot system. Use ROM toolbox and backup all your user apps+data. Then go to your contacts choose export to sd.. Make a"V card" export all your contacts to your sd. Then download sms backup&restore app.. backup all your texts. Then after these steps are done reboot to recovery (TWRP) go to wipe and wipe (assuming you already have other ROM zips on your sd or external sd saved and ready to flash) wipe cache, Dalvik cache, system, factory reset, system, factory reset.. In that order. Back out to main TWRP menu. .
Choose Install and install your ROM zip of your choice. After it installs successfully and reboots setup your phone and get to home screen. Go to market install rom toolbox again. After that is installed open and scroll to backups. Restore all Apps+data that you want. While that's restoring open contacts choose import from sd.. choose vcard files... choose the one you just made and restore...
Once your apps restore open sms backup&restore them restore your texts... setup any thing else you want/need widgets settings options etc..
After the new ROM is setup to your liking. Scroll back to the top and repeat till you have solid Nandroid backups (Twrp backups) of all the ROM'S you want.
Then anytime you want to change between then you reboot to recovery (twrp) wipe with above said method then hit restore choose the ROM you want to restore to and voila you'll literally be where you left off to a T even the same messages and websites still open... Only thing you might want to do between nandroid flashes is backup any NEW apps you downloaded recently. Our make a new backups of text messages with sms backup&restore if you want your texts always up to date...
If this helped which I hope it did cause its laid out, then hit the Thanks button:good:
Have a great afternoon
-Tw1steD

root, flash, backup file moving help

Hey quick question,
so I make a backup of my system for flashing. Then I move the backup onto a folder to my computer same with my titanium backup folder. So when I wipe and flash a new rom, I have all of my files for my system backup and my titanium backup on my phone. After I restore all of my apps after flashing the new rom, can I move the backup files and leave them on the computer as well as the system backup to save space? Is there anyway that I can still restore the system if it gets stuck in a bootloop - (besides flashing a new stock one)?
basically I want to store the system backup and the titanium backup on my computer so they are safe and because they take up about 4 gb of space on my phone.
I tried to be clear but let me know if I should further explain
Thanks

I wouldn't backup system apps with titanium, because they can vary from rom to rom. As long as you properly wipe your phone before flashing, you shouldn't get bootloops(can still happen). If you get a bootloop, try pulling the battery 1st. If your phone still bootloops, you have to use download mode and ODIN to flash stock ROM.
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right which I have done before. I just want to know that if my phone does get stuck somewhere (has happened before, and I had to flash a stock rom and lost everything - lost backup) Would I be able to move my system restore and titanium backup files from my computer to my phone to be able to recover?
Basically store backups on computer, then if something happens, be able to transfer them back to phone
Thanks for the help

Generally it's good to leave backups someplace where they won't get easily corrupted or lost. Since the S3 has a microsd slot, sure, keep them on your computer and move them over if necessary.
My SOP is to keep the current backup on the microsd, and store the backups on my computer. Then if I need to reflash/nandroid back, they're there, and if my microsd is corrupted I have a known good backup.

b11aze said:
right which I have done before. I just want to know that if my phone does get stuck somewhere (has happened before, and I had to flash a stock rom and lost everything - lost backup) Would I be able to move my system restore and titanium backup files from my computer to my phone to be able to recover?
Basically store backups on computer, then if something happens, be able to transfer them back to phone
Thanks for the help
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As long as you can get into your custom recovery after anything happens, backups will work. Make sure to backup system, data, and boot. If not and you have to flash using ODIN, like starting from scratch, you may have issues such as md5 mismatches.
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ok I was just looking to see if it was possible or not to transfer backups from computer to phone if the phone cant turn on ie. stuck in download mode or recovery mode.