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Tired of locked bootloader, call me a sellout.

I have decided that I can not deal with the locked bootloader on this tablet and have chosen to sell it (got more then I paid). The A100 is a wonderful tablet and has great potential but the lack of developers and dead end bootloader is a showstopper.
I am waiting for another brand 7 inch tablet to arrive by Fedex later this week. It has the same basic specs as the a100. CWM is already available and there is a small amount development going on. But it is new on the market. No ICS yet. There is some talk in getting CM9 on it.
It is really disappointing that the 10 inch tabs are getting all of the glory, I really think the 7 inch is the best size for carrying with you.

see yah!
The locked bootloader isn't a big deal for me because the tab already does everything I want it to do. The only thing that could make this tab already better than what it is would be the unlocked bootloader that way we could look at different rom options (but to be honest the rom that's currently there isn't that bad at all). Granted it would be nice to overclock, but its already pretty fast and I haven't really had any hiccups while using it since I released the custom build.prop (except for using hdmi which I'm working on).
I think eventually we'll get some sort of work around for the bootloader working, its just a matter of time. I'm definitely not going to drop this tab though just because we don't have it figured out yet.
I do wish there was someone other than myself that's taken an interest in this tab that knows their way around custom recoverys and bootloaders since that's not one of my strong points but at least I'm trying to help.
I wont call you a sell out, but I will wish you good luck with your new device and happy modding!
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Which tablet did you get? I'm starting to look into getting a new one and giving this one to my wife.
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Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?

ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I agree, but everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I personally don't care how bad you thought it sucked and what you're replacing it with. If you don't have anything useful to contribute don't bother posting. For me these "goodbye" types of posts fall into that catagory.
That's just my own opinion though.
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ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I actually like my A100 and plan to hold on to it for a while.
Is that okay with everyone?
(Of course if someone wanted to pay me enough for it so I could buy the next, better thing....)

to OP good luck with your future endeavors as I am sure you will have new things you will complain about your new device seeing how you would post something like this.
And crossix thank you for all your hard work. I really wish I knew more than I could to help you and others out but I try to put in where I can. We need more devs like you around here.
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ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I think its a simple way of letting their frustrations go. I was just doing some research on this tab as I'd like to have a nice little 7 inch carry along but not so sure about it with the locked b/l and bad viewing angles.
Is the screen as bad as it looks in videos? From what I've seen and read this thing runs very smooth and lagfree, am I right about that?
Thanks for any info.
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donharden2002 said:
I think its a simple way of letting their frustrations go. I was just doing some research on this tab as I'd like to have a nice little 7 inch carry along but not so sure about it with the locked b/l and bad viewing angles.
Is the screen as bad as it looks in videos? From what I've seen and read this thing runs very smooth and lagfree, am I right about that?
Thanks for any info.
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Theres really only 1 bad angle which is about 120 degrees towards the bottom. It gets darker. So jus flip it 180 in landscape and youre good. Left, right and top angle are great IMO. As far as speed. Here's one I posted....you be the judge....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99O4-gmQ6E&list=UUHqepxR6_suYYKySqKxymDg&index=3&feature=plcp

The only lag I've ever experienced was when I was on the early 3.2 builds. After upgrading to the latest 3.2.1and running the custom build.prop, the only bit of lag I've seen is playing 720p video in flash and 720p software mode video on hdmi out. But my atrix had the same issue, so I think its just a limitation of stock tegra2. I resovled it on my atrix by overclocking, so if we ever find a method of running a custom kernel I think it'll be resolved.
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I have never experienced any lag whatsoever in the a100. also, i have heard so much about the viewing angles, and as aznmode said, there is only one slightly off angle and there is no reason whatsoever to have to be looking in that angle unless you just choose to do so. I have several tabs and i use the acer more than the others combined because it does everything that is needed and it is very easy to carry around. Also I have hear reviewers complain about the battery, however i can useit on and off all day long without charging and also it charges twice as fast as most. i wouldn't hesitate to purchase this tab again, i would just love to see some more development. The rom itself is very fast and extremely stable, the only real complaint that i have about the tab is that i would like to see usb host mode working. i also wanted to say thanks to crossix and all of the other devs that have put alot of work into it so far!

crossix said:
After upgrading to the latest 3.2.1and running the custom build.prop, the only bit of lag I've seen is playing 720p video in flash and 720p software mode video on hdmi out.
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What this custom build.prop is effecting on? Better performances? better battery life?
i'm on 2007.04 Gen1...

spino1970 said:
What this custom build.prop is effecting on? Better performances? better battery life?
i'm on 2007.04 Gen1...
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All of the above, you can check it out over in the dev section
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crossix said:
All of the above, you can check it out over in the dev section
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Thanx...i've installed...
Now i just need to find mode to free memory for -finally, now it is checked like an a500, compatible device- install the TinTinHD app i bought few weeks ago: it need 1.5 gb of data

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Thanx...i've installed...
Now i just need to find mode to free memory for -finally, now it is checked like an a500, compatible device- install the TinTinHD app i bought few weeks ago: it need 1.5 gb of data
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If you have a big microsd card, you could swap it with the internal memory (I really need to add direct links to these things to my signature..).

Just out of curiosity has anyone contracted koush to see if he can unlock the bootloader. On his website he says that he just needs the tablet for about a week. I know that you guys have been working on it and have made some bits of progress, but maybe a new set of eyes might be helpful. I do support for two as we got the kids some for Christmas but I need to leave them stock so they can't get into and erase stuff they need for them to run.
Don't want to step on anyone's toes or if this has already been attempted just disregard.
Thanks to the developers for their work.

crossix said:
see yah!
The locked bootloader isn't a big deal for me because the tab already does everything I want it to do. The only thing that could make this tab already better than what it is would be the unlocked bootloader that way we could look at different rom options (but to be honest the rom that's currently there isn't that bad at all). Granted it would be nice to overclock, but its already pretty fast and I haven't really had any hiccups while using it since I released the custom build.prop (except for using hdmi which I'm working on).
I think eventually we'll get some sort of work around for the bootloader working, its just a matter of time. I'm definitely not going to drop this tab though just because we don't have it figured out yet.
I do wish there was someone other than myself that's taken an interest in this tab that knows their way around custom recoverys and bootloaders since that's not one of my strong points but at least I'm trying to help.
I wont call you a sell out, but I will wish you good luck with your new device and happy modding!
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I started this thread when I was really pissed off at the A100. Between my touch screen failing and the many hours spent to get a working tun.ko on it. Due to the encrypted kernel I could not even load a kernel module.
To explain I need tun.ko and advanced routing so I can connect to a Cisco VPN for work. While waiting for my tab to be returned from service went to Best Buy and picked up the Samsung Galaxy tab plus, installed VPNC and it worked with no problem.
The A100 is a really nice device and for 90% of people it is perfect. I actually preferred the styling compared to the Samsung slab, but VPN is the reason I wanted a tab in the first place.
I wish you all good luck with cracking the bootloader.

I plan on keeping my a100 at least until I can afford a tegra 3 tab.
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painter_ said:
I started this thread when I was really pissed off at the A100. Between my touch screen failing and the many hours spent to get a working tun.ko on it. Due to the encrypted kernel I could not even load a kernel module.
To explain I need tun.ko and advanced routing so I can connect to a Cisco VPN for work. While waiting for my tab to be returned from service went to Best Buy and picked up the Samsung Galaxy tab plus, installed VPNC and it worked with no problem.
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I use remote desktop with a virtual pc setup to connect up to my works Cisco VPN and it works really well, especially when I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected up to the tab (I also use this same setup with my atrix), it works great!
I also use this same setup for one of my clients Nortel Networks VPN which doesn't work at all on android nativity. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the a100 but for the price its hard to find fault with it.

crossix said:
I use remote desktop with a virtual pc setup to connect up to my works Cisco VPN and it works really well, especially when I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected up to the tab (I also use this same setup with my atrix), it works great!
I also use this same setup for one of my clients Nortel Networks VPN which doesn't work at all on android nativity. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the a100 but for the price its hard to find fault with it.
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Agreed the price is right.
The virtual PC solution is not an option since I not only need it for RDP and VNC but also to sync my contacts, email and calendar. I was connecting to my home VPN and then jumping through to work but I need my contacts and email in somewhat a real time solution.

Just bought a Galaxy S3...

...and am selling it again.
Ive had a GN since it came out, and an S2 for a year prior, which I loved, for the most part. I had great hopes for the S3 but was massively disappointed. Its a great phone in many respects, but the touchWiz (Which is better than S2 but still sucks) UI lets it down. The keyboard is woeful. The messaging app suck. Many of the features border on "gimmicky". I know many of these issues can be solved by replacing stock apps but seems such a shame seeing as such strides were made by Google with Android 4.
Anyone else dabbled with an S3?

Be prepared for the CBS's man.. I wanna get one to try it out
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The CBS?

I've messed around with one. Its a decent device but nothing I would call next-gen.

My girlfriend just got one yesterday. Had a play with it when she reluctantly handed it over. Seems very nice tbh . If I got one as a straight swap for my nexus I'd probably go for it. Would root it though and get touchwiz off it asap. .

My workmate has just got one, they are nice phones hardware wise but not significantly better than the Nexus and, yeah, Touchwiz still sucks.
S voice lags the phone, s beam is just a lazy way to configure wifi direct, smart stay is kinda cool though it's not that hard to set a few seconds delay between screen off and lock just in case ... so again I can't really see any killer features to make me want to upgrade.
I'm so happy with the gnex at this stage I might actually keep a phone for a year this time, unless a new nexus comes out in that time of course.
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This should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

El Daddy said:
This should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
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Exactly!
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FNM

T-Mobile Galaxy S3 First Impressions

Please share you first thoughts on the phone and software.. Also let us know if you picked it up opening morning; Was it busy? Was it worth it?
Im curious to see some Benchmarks and Network speed test? !

It'd almost too thin. I will definitely be getting a case for this. Or maybe an extended batter and a case.
The power button is too small/difficult to press. Probably just needs some getting used to. The back and menu button light up and go away so when you're looking at the phone you don't actually see them. this will probably also take some getting used to, but it does make the phone look minimal.
The screen looks huge and is very sharp. Like crazy sharp. There's a widget called Media Hub on by default and inside it are 3 little movie posters or box art covers and they are just incredibly sharp.
I have fairly large hands, but wouldn't want to use this if my hands were any smaller perhaps.
T-Mobile didn't have any accessories. They really weren't prepared for this launch.
update: The included headset seems decent. I was slightly miffed that the GS2 didn't include a headset since, the bulk pricing on them is like 5 cents. The only "but" is it has an always-tangle cord. Why do they even make these anymore? Flat, non-tacky/sticky cord would have been too much to ask for?
update: it did offer me the 50GB of free dropbox which some other carriers opted out of for some reason

Where are you located? Where did you pick it up? What color? Gb?How responsive is it? Sorry for the questions! Just eager to know!!

I live in Chicago. I was told 5 of our area stores got it in stock. ~75 phones per store. The store I went to was around 51st and Pulaski. I had called yesterday and a nice young girl put me on a list. My wife (who happened to be on staycation this week) showed up and picked it up for me.
The only one they have is the blueish pebble color, 16GB in stock. I don't think I would have paid $50 for the extra 16GB even if I had the option. I ordered a 64GB microSD (SDXC or whatever its called) for $50 from Amazon, but Newegg has them for even cheaper.
Not sure how to answer the responsiveness question since my "old" Galaxy S2 was quite responsive. Her line was eligible for upgrade also, so I gave her my GS2 and she gave me the GS3. Everything is pretty much instantaneous.
I would say going from a GS2 to a GS3 the only thing that really jumps out at me so far is the screen. It is incredibly sharp. The phone is also crazy thin.

I got mine at one of the Southcenter mall locations (about 10 miles south of Seattle). I got there 45 minutes before opening and the place was a ghost town. They opened the doors 10 minutes before opening time and there was no crowd at all. I walked right up to a sales person and purchased the phone.
T-Mobile made sure to point out (and require my initials in acknowledgement) the $50 restocking fee. That will probably keep me from returning the 16GB within my buyers remorse period and getting a new 32GB.
They only had the blue 16GB phone so that is what I got. I would have purchased the 32GB version if they had it. My previous phone is a Galaxy S1 running Slim ICS. The new touchwiz is taking a little getting use to, but it's not bad. I'm enjoying learning about the new face detect and motion jesture features. Seems like they might come in handy.
I'm stumped trying to connect my PC to the phone in mass storage mode. My only choices are media mode or camera mode. Neither are very fast. Windows is telling me it will take 5+ hours to move 7.5GB of data (that took about 10 minutes to copy from my old device).
I came to XDA today to see if anyone had made a rooting guide. I need to get adfree installed and Titanium backup would be nice to have so I could restore data from a small handful of apps.
EDIT: It was also interesting that debugging mode is enabled by default. That doesn't seem normal.

No worth the price.going back to my sgII.It's not that much better at all.I feel like a sucker to tell the truth.getting my money back.
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tennandcoz1 said:
No worth the price.going back to my sgII.It's not that much better at all.I feel like a sucker to tell the truth.getting my money back.
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Enjoy the $50 restocking fee

FreydNot said:
...I'm stumped trying to connect my PC to the phone in mass storage mode. My only choices are media mode or camera mode. Neither are very fast. Windows is telling me it will take 5+ hours to move 7.5GB of data (that took about 10 minutes to copy from my old device)....
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Install a server that can handle SAMBA/CIFS and install AndSMB on your phone. Then transfer files that way. it is pretty sweet, especially if you are running N on your wireless router.

FreydNot said:
I got mine at one of the Southcenter mall locations (about 10 miles south of Seattle). I got there 45 minutes before opening and the place was a ghost town. They opened the doors 10 minutes before opening time and there was no crowd at all. I walked right up to a sales person and purchased the phone.
T-Mobile made sure to point out (and require my initials in acknowledgement) the $50 restocking fee. That will probably keep me from returning the 16GB within my buyers remorse period and getting a new 32GB.
They only had the blue 16GB phone so that is what I got. I would have purchased the 32GB version if they had it. My previous phone is a Galaxy S1 running Slim ICS. The new touchwiz is taking a little getting use to, but it's not bad. I'm enjoying learning about the new face detect and motion jesture features. Seems like they might come in handy.
I'm stumped trying to connect my PC to the phone in mass storage mode. My only choices are media mode or camera mode. Neither are very fast. Windows is telling me it will take 5+ hours to move 7.5GB of data (that took about 10 minutes to copy from my old device).
I came to XDA today to see if anyone had made a rooting guide. I need to get adfree installed and Titanium backup would be nice to have so I could restore data from a small handful of apps.
EDIT: It was also interesting that debugging mode is enabled by default. That doesn't seem normal.
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Debugging mode was also enabled by default on my One X (int version)
It's definitely something I wasn't expecting
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I got mine around noon today in Indianapolis. I wasn't excepting them to get them. I don't think they were either.
Coming from a G2X, I'm really liking it so far.
*The screen is very nice, especially when watching videos.
*It's light but it feels nice in the hand. I don't have really big hands but I find it easy to use one-handed. It helps that Samsung puts their power button on the side of the phone.
*It's fast and smooth. I just got all of my apps and widgets loaded and no noticeable lag yet.
Gonna play some more and report back.

So far hows T-Mobile network working with it? Do they have Visual voicemail and wifi calling?

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So far hows T-Mobile network working with it? Do they have Visual voicemail and wifi calling?
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yes they do. I havent had much time to mess with my phone yet but one thing that bugs me is the Email App. you can't multi-select email and mark as read, only for mark as unread, deleting and move to another folder. Will test out other things later.

Here's a question that I haven't seen answered - hopefully it's not a stupid one.
One of the things I've really enjoyed about my G2 is the deep integration of Google Voice. It's like having a dual sim phone.
Has Samsung limited that integration with Touchwiz? Overall, how well-integrated is Google Voice?

harrij4 said:
Here's a question that I haven't seen answered - hopefully it's not a stupid one.
One of the things I've really enjoyed about my G2 is the deep integration of Google Voice. It's like having a dual sim phone.
Has Samsung limited that integration with Touchwiz? Overall, how well-integrated is Google Voice?
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It looks like the same setup for the gs3. I was able to set my main messages app to use for google voice. So I don't even have to go into the voice app to send a text message

We need root
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Picked up phone at 9am at t-mobile in bellevue. 4G seems spotty for me so far..
display is nice and big though. Device is super light. Enjoying it so far

FreydNot said:
Enjoy the $50 restocking fee
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Better than the full price I paid.Its just not that much better than the gsII.so for me to spend that kind of money it better blow my mind.But good luck.
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I'm from Philly, my phone is the bomb. It's ultra responsive, just like ios, Touchwiz is way better, feels more refined for ics. I'm thoroughly impressed by Samsung for getting it.
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eff0rtless said:
Picked up phone at 9am at t-mobile in bellevue. 4G seems spotty for me so far..
display is nice and big though. Device is super light. Enjoying it so far
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Hey I was at Bellevue Square to. bright and early. What time were you there?

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I'm stumped trying to connect my PC to the phone in mass storage mode. My only choices are media mode or camera mode. Neither are very fast. Windows is telling me it will take 5+ hours to move 7.5GB of data (that took about 10 minutes to copy from my old device).
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i think the reason for removing the mass storage mode is because of kies air.. samsung wants us to use the software..

Convince me!

So I have the option of getting a Galaxy Nexus here in the next few days for Sprint. I currently have the Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch. I have been browsing the Nexus threads for awhile now and I have seen plenty of threads that show both the pros and cons to the phone. The only problem is, everything is so scattered. Do you think you guys would be able to give me the direct pros and cons for the phone? Why would I like it better then the E4GT? I have a couple of friends that have the Nexus and I absolutely love it, but they don't know as much about the actual phone itself then you guys do. And honestly, I am with them on that, but I joined XDA to learn all about this stuff and I have learned a lot
So... Any information would help. I know that Nexus definitely get their updates a lot faster from what I have read.
Actually how about you tell me why I shouldn't get the phone? That might be easier? Regardless, thank you very much.
I am currently on the stock FF18 build for the E4GT and am having just a few minor issues with it. I updated the PRL for the phone this morning and ever since then, I have had horrible battery, my 4G won't start up, the phone is running extremely hot, and just a lot of things that I don't want to deal with.

Mean reason not to get it for me: no SD card. But I bought it anyway, and I'm very happy with it. Extremely smooth, never any lag at all. Just need to be a bit conservative with disc space. I still have 10 GB free so I'm far from worried yet. You can always move some files to your computer with a few clicks if necessary anyway.

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So I have the option of getting a Galaxy Nexus here in the next few days for Sprint. I currently have the Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch. I have been browsing the Nexus threads for awhile now and I have seen plenty of threads that show both the pros and cons to the phone. The only problem is, everything is so scattered. Do you think you guys would be able to give me the direct pros and cons for the phone? Why would I like it better then the E4GT? I have a couple of friends that have the Nexus and I absolutely love it, but they don't know as much about the actual phone itself then you guys do. And honestly, I am with them on that, but I joined XDA to learn all about this stuff and I have learned a lot
So... Any information would help. I know that Nexus definitely get their updates a lot faster from what I have read.
Actually how about you tell me why I shouldn't get the phone? That might be easier? Regardless, thank you very much.
I am currently on the stock FF18 build for the E4GT and am having just a few minor issues with it. I updated the PRL for the phone this morning and ever since then, I have had horrible battery, my 4G won't start up, the phone is running extremely hot, and just a lot of things that I don't want to deal with.
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If you have learned anything from xda then maybe you would know that threads like this shouldn't be opened.
If you like it after looking at the specs then buy it. If you don't then don't buy it.
sent from my Galaxy Nexus running official Jelly Bean!!!!

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If you have learned anything from xda then maybe you would know that threads like this shouldn't be opened.
If you like it after looking at the specs then buy it. If you don't then don't buy it.
sent from my Galaxy Nexus running official Jelly Bean!!!!
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My apologies. Feel free to close the thread. I'm not here to annoy.
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Don't buy it. The forum is full of redundant threads where people ask others to make their purchase decisions for them.

You obviously like the phone. Get it. You won't be disappointed by it. I almost fell for the S3 hooblah but happy I chose Gnex first. I don't care for physical buttons and am a HUGE AOSP fan! The SD thing had me concerned but on average everyone is packing about 32gb with SD cards anyhow. The 5mp camera is not as bad as one would think though I don't expect my phone to take professional photos. And once you find a winning kernel/ROM combo battery life is fine. It may not be the most powerful phone in the world but what phone is?? (At least for more than a month or so before the next phone craps on it.) People will flame broil you for this post but hey, they don't have to read it. They choose to. Whatever you decide, enjoy your new device.
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I'd go with a GS3, but if that isn't an option, the GN is my second choice if I were in the market. In either case, Cyanogenmod 10 is pretty nice obviously.
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Guys be straight here.
PROS:
1. 4.65" high res display
2. No carrier brand
3. Has a strong development group
4. Will have Google's support for a few years.
5. It's easy to tink with it when rooted.
6. Hella easy to root.
7. First in line for updates.
8. Gets the first port for almost everything.
9. Removable battery
10. Unified storage.
11. Soft keys are better and more responsive and don't wear down and can be removed easily.
12. Stock AOSP.
13. Durable.
14. Runs 4.1.1
15. Has a lot of accessories (if Ur getting a GSM)
16. Easy to swap white or black housings. (GSM)
17. Fast and has almost no lag(The OS anyways)
Cons:
1. Bad camera.
2. Eh battery
3. Has grains on the screen when dim.
4. Heats up(always a con for a android)
5. Bad at GPS and WiFi(sometimes)
6. Doesnt use too notch plastics.
7. No SD(reason for unified storage)
8. Dual core and not a S4 or quad like ppl hoped for(4.1 makes it feel fast though)
9. It's really bad on sprint with 3G.(but that's on sprint
Those are my reasons I can think. Other members can extend the list if they can think of more.
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If you need convincing to buy a phone over another, then what's the point of even thinking of buying a phone? If we convince you or force you in any way, you might not like the phone when you actually have it.
You'll be thinking: "ugh, why didn't I get the other phone?"
Trust me, I know this from past experiences, and boy have I suffered from making the wrong choices.

Dragn4rce said:
Guys be straight here.
PROS:
1. 4.65" high res display
2. No carrier brand
3. Has a strong development group
4. Will have Google's support for a few years.
5. It's easy to tink with it when rooted.
6. Hella easy to root.
7. First in line for updates.
8. Gets the first port for almost everything.
9. Removable battery
10. Unified storage.
11. Soft keys are better and more responsive and don't wear down and can be removed easily.
12. Stock AOSP.
13. Durable.
14. Runs 4.1.1
15. Has a lot of accessories (if Ur getting a GSM)
16. Easy to swap white or black housings. (GSM)
17. Fast and has almost no lag(The OS anyways)
Cons:
1. Bad camera.
2. Eh battery
3. Has grains on the screen when dim.
4. Heats up(always a con for a android)
5. Bad at GPS and WiFi(sometimes)
6. Doesnt use too notch plastics.
7. No SD(reason for unified storage)
8. Dual core and not a S4 or quad like ppl hoped for(4.1 makes it feel fast though)
9. It's really bad on sprint with 3G.(but that's on sprint
Those are my reasons I can think. Other members can extend the list if they can think of more.
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Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately I do have Sprint, and the area I'm currently living in doesn't have a full 4G going yet. I'll have to look into that. My E4GT isn't the greatest either I've noticed. I find myself using a lot more Wi-Fi.
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If you need convincing to buy a phone over another, then what's the point of even thinking of buying a phone? If we convince you or force you in any way, you might not like the phone when you actually have it.
You'll be thinking: "ugh, why didn't I get the other phone?"
Trust me, I know this from past experiences, and boy have I suffered from making the wrong choices.
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I am simply gaining input. You're not making a decision for me.
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crkdslider said:
Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately I do have Sprint, and the area I'm currently living in doesn't have a full 4G going yet. I'll have to look into that. My E4GT isn't the greatest either I've noticed. I find myself using a lot more Wi-Fi.
I am simply gaining input. You're not making a decision for me.
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Ok, well do note that the LTE variant of the Galaxy S3 is quite different hardware-wise from the GSM version.

I bought this phone yesterday and I'm very happy with it but (there's always but)... I have european GSM version and the speker is way to low with it's sound level even when it's set to it's highest volume point.
build quality is OK, it has plastic covers so it doesn't gives strong impressions when in hand like HTC or Motorola devices in my opinion. Earpiece is also OK, my Motorola Defy had excellent earpiece compared to this.
Also Google changed how volumes are controled in ICS so you can't set separate volume for notifications like on Gingerbread or Froyo for an example.
For people who work in IT sector like me and have a bounch of e-mails or SMS alerts during the night that option was very useful. Luckily ther is application for that and it's called simply: Sound Profile.
I absolutely love the screen and it's size even tho on low brigthess white color is washed out, probably due to SAMOLED screen don't know exactly.
Battery is not lasting very long. I don't have it much but I think that after about 4 hours with screen on you'll have to put it on a charge.
There's my opinion if it can help to someone... After 2 years or so I think I'll buy Motorola again.

I came from the SGS2 last month and this phone is the best phone I have owned, That epic touch was such a pain in the ass to work with that I am glad it's in a box sitting for it's next owner. I bricked my 1st one and hated the phone since.

The GNex was my first Nexus device, and now i have a Nexus 7. I will no longer buy another non nexus phone or tablet again.

Rooting and flashing on this phone is incredible. Honestly best experience I've had.
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Switched to gn2

I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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So why didn't you go into a store and play with it BEFORE dropping all that coinage, getting home and then complaining about it afterwards? It's not as if you didn't have that as an option.
I went to a store today and spent some time with it. Currently have an S3 that i love. I would have no problem using a Note 2 as my primary device but i don't think i would want something that big ALL the time, hence i would prefer the S3.

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Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
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None. Seriously. None at all.

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So why didn't you go into a store and play with it BEFORE dropping all that coinage, getting home and then complaining about it afterwards? It's not as if you didn't have that as an option.
I went to a store today and spent some time with it. Currently have an S3 that i love. I would have no problem using a Note 2 as my primary device but i don't think i would want something that big ALL the time, hence i would prefer the S3.
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Well I did play with it. The disappointment was short and mainly just like with going from anything you know well and are used to, to something new and unfamiliar. Once its rooted and I can change DPI that will resolve the elderly resolution issue.
AS I've actually had a full day to play with it I love it. Homestly the only issue I somewhat have is the unstable feeling while handling with one hand making long stretches with my thumb. Im sure after awhile longer, that too will pass.
Just ready to be on good ole cm10 again.
And as far as toying with it. I did, but you arent able to get a full accurate grasp on any of the phones with the bulky security piece glued too the back with the strecthy cord.
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I feel you then. I have big hands and can balance the Note 2 fairly well in one hand.
On my S3 I have a nandroid of BlackBean 6 JellyBean (AOKP) that i was running for a while but i'll have to say that the new TWiz is very nice. I like the subtle changes to the UI systemwide. Currently running FreeGS3 JellyBean (Twiz ROM) and it's fantastic. Never expected a Twiz ROM to draw me away from AOKP.

Right now, any phone feels small to me.
Honestly, I can even go a BIT BIGGER than the note 2
Not wider, but longer.
You just get used to it.

Have you tried a different launcher? I too came from the evo 3d and now laugh quietly when I look at my wife's original evo. I use nova prime and cannot say enough about it. And go get yourself a case. I bought the Samsung case in the acces forum and got it today, not too much bulk and I can now sleep at night.

chucktownscitch said:
I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Just to address the size issue, I remember when I got my Evo 4G, thinking it was pretty nice but maybe too big. It took about a day to get over that. I always miss my previous phone for a day or two, but new phones always provide the benefit of new technology. I had the first Note version in blue and now got the Note II in white. At first I thought it was way too bright, but in a day loved it better than the first. I didn't think I would like the slightly narrower version, but find it fits better in my hand, and again, like the new technology. I am giving you my personal guarantee if you use it for a week, you will not go back. And you can fiddle with it, and eventually you will get cm10 or something newer. It's great.

I did the same exact thing. Except I first grabbed an sgs3. I love the note 2. It's never felt too large for me. I do have big hands but even so one handed text entry is suffering. I find swype style keyboards work best. As soon as SwiftKey releases their new beta ill switch to that. I enjoy SwiftKey for most entry but a split keyboard is a must in landscape. At this point I have 7 imes loaded so I clearly haven't found the perfect set yet. Stick with it, the note is hard to beat in all categories right now.
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I laugh at the nexus I gave my wife.. And I loved that phone. I could go bigger too... waitress walked up to my table today and said "man that's a big-ass phone"
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Just wanted to thank all of ypu above for the encouragement to stick with it. After finding out the phone couldn't take pictures while on phone and the lack of SVDO and only SVLTE (which isn't in my area until beginning of next year) I was dead set on returning it.
I think got a helpful tip that the camera can be fixed thru a small false to true value chane in the features xml.
I went to my cousins to toy with his gs3 and let him play with this before returning it. (Also note that talking to him on phone yesterday he said he didnt think he could manage anything bigger than his gs3)
Turns out the moment he saw it he started drooling over it. He wants one now! Needless to say I second guessed returning it just because of the lack of SVDO. So I guess I will be keeping it because im definitely starting to love this thing more and more.
So thanks again to everyone who said hang in there. Cant wait top see how this community is compared to the evo and evo3d community with the constant drama and disrespect towards devs.
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If this phone can do SVDO, it would be the shizzn
... And to me, will be the perfect phone (for now)

get a flygrip for onehanded use. doubles as a kick stand in portrait and landscape
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I've got an evo3d and $300 I'll give you for it
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I've got an evo3d and $300 I'll give you for it
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