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[Q]ODIN and root

does the galaxy W need to be rooted to flash with ODIN or it does not need to be.
for example i can just flash CWM and then install CM9 without root and I'll be ok.

zaid98 said:
does the galaxy W need to be rooted to flash with ODIN or it does not need to be.
for example i can just flash CWM and then install CM9 without root and I'll be ok.
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ODIN is to be use on standard updates on stock ROM. Normally you can get it through www.sammobile.com/firmware/
Root ROM like CM9 by Arco and others variation such as Paranoid Android by Doomsday94 must be on rooted phone. This link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317394) will helps you how to root. I suggest you read through these steps.

you didn't understand what i meant what i meant does the stock ROM need to be rooted to flash CWM via odin or not

zaid98 said:
you didn't understand what i meant what i meant does the stock ROM need to be rooted to flash CWM via odin or not
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You seems to be new here. He's answer was right but since you cannot relate to what he said, the simple answer for your question is
"No."
If you have more question, follow them up.

My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not

My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
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Anything on a computer has full access to android devices. So odin and other apps like that for computers will be able to do anything to your device if it reqiures download mode. Download mode is basicly rhe first piece of already rooted (you could say) equiptment on a phone that anyone could access.
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zaid98 said:
My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
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Odin does not need root. It's a standard software from Samsung to updates/upgrade/downgrade stock ROM or even flash baseband (upgrade/downgrade). But in order to use ODIN, your phone must be on download mode.
I hope this is simple enough for you to try. Again, please read my first post comments.

if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?

melledug said:
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
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I've been trying to figure out what you really mean but I really don't understand.
In one way or another, you will be needing both root and CWM if you're to use your phone to the fullest. I strongly suggest to do the two things.

i suppose your question was "do you need root before flashing CWM with ODIN?"
i think you can flash it (CWM recovery) without rooting, but on the other hand, CWM might need root access before it can work on your phone.

necrohades said:
i suppose your question was "do you need root before flashing CWM with ODIN?"
i think you can flash it (CWM recovery) without rooting, but on the other hand, CWM might need root access before it can work on your phone.
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Anything that isnt download mode always requires root if it involves modifying the /system
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melledug said:
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
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I think what this guy meant was: If I'm not rooted, but can flash CWM using ODIN, what's the purpose of rooting?
Assuming I translated his question correctly, here's my answer :
Flashing a recovery (RZR, CWM) or a ROM (BC2, Kez, BN, ArcoICS) is like installing Windows 7 on a PC: You don't need to know the password of the Administrator account of the previous OS; just boot the Setup DVD, and it has full unfettered access to the whole PC.
Rooting a phone is unlocking its capability. It's like resetting the administrator password of a PC, so that you can install things on it.
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Guys,
I installed the CWM before rooting, is it a problem? How can I root my phone with CWM already installed? I am having some problems with Cyanonmod 10, for exemple, I can't take pictures because it says that there's no external SD Card installed what isn't true.

NigthWolf23 said:
Guys,
I installed the CWM before rooting, is it a problem? How can I root my phone with CWM already installed? I am having some problems with Cyanonmod 10, for exemple, I can't take pictures because it says that there's no external SD Card installed what isn't true.
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Short answer: no. its not a problem. You can root your phone with cwm installed. It wont affect anything. And if you want root then just search it up.
Secondly, about CM10.1, its still in alpha.(bugs like that are always probable) Dont report it here. Report it in the CM10 thread. Its bound to get noticed more there and fixed quicker there.
That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem?

gmaster1 said:
Short answer: no. its not a problem. You can root your phone with cwm installed. It wont affect anything. And if you want root then just search it up.
Secondly, about CM10.1, its still in alpha.(bugs like that are always probable) Dont report it here. Report it in the CM10 thread. Its bound to get noticed more there and fixed quicker there.
That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem?
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Not a problem, but u can't root your device with cwm6, only with cwm5 or stock recovery
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[Q] CWM Touch

How do you flash the CWM Touch Recovery on a Stock Rooted SIII? It came in an .img file and im just totally lost on how to install it.

Tyler.Boston1 said:
How do you flash the CWM Touch Recovery on a Stock Rooted SIII? It came in an .img file and im just totally lost on how to install it.
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you either need to fast boot install it, or use the Root Toolkit (which needs a tar file).
or you can buy it as an in-app purchase via ROM Manager.
i personally went with the Root Toolkit approach.

mrhomiec said:
you either need to fast boot install it, or use the Root Toolkit (which needs a tar file).
or you can buy it as an in-app purchase via ROM Manager.
i personally went with the Root Toolkit approach.
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Oh ok, could you give me a link to the RootToolkit and what if the touch recovery only comes in a .img? How do i change it into a .tar?

Tyler.Boston1 said:
How do you flash the CWM Touch Recovery on a Stock Rooted SIII? It came in an .img file and im just totally lost on how to install it.
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This thread is very informative and thorough (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426).
If you are already rooted you can skip down to the THIRD section in that OP for instructions on getting CWM installed.

[Q] which recovery after root?

Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.

sleekmason said:
Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.
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That's a lot questions! Lol.... here's two answers:
If you want to flash CleanRom, then you don't need to root your stock rom, just use Odin to flash TWRP and that will either let you install CleanRom or let you install SuperSU (root). You can the recovery from their website.
I'm on the P600 and the goomanager didn't install the recovery correctly, so I had to flash with odin.
I don't know about Heimdal. Good luck on your ten posts
Sent from my SM-P600

Odin eh?
grmcrkrs said:
That's a lot questions! Lol.... here's two answers:
If you want to flash CleanRom, then you don't need to root your stock rom, just use Odin to flash TWRP and that will either let you install CleanRom or let you install SuperSU (root). You can the recovery from their website.
I'm on the P600 and the goomanager didn't install the recovery correctly, so I had to flash with odin.
I don't know about Heimdal. Good luck on your ten posts
Sent from my SM-P600
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My understanding is that root is neccesary to flash twrp. If that is not the case, they why use Odin at all?
Heimdall is a program reverse engineered to work on Samsung devices. Potentially more stable than odin. Open source. I use a linux box but will have access to a windows box in a week or so.

supersu
Furthermore, for verification, super su does not root your device, it only manages the permissions of those programs that need root access. Can somebody else chime in for verification?

sleekmason said:
Furthermore, for verification, super su does not root your device, it only manages the permissions of those programs that need root access. Can somebody else chime in for verification?
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No, you CAN flash recovery without rooting, and if your not rooted then TWRP asks if you'd like to install SuperSU and root that way. I guess you don't have to believe me though
Sent from my SM-P600

grmcrkrs said:
No, you CAN flash recovery without rooting, and if your not rooted then TWRP asks if you'd like to install SuperSU and root that way. I guess you don't have to believe me though
Sent from my SM-P600
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that sounds great but doesn't TWRP need root in order to be installed? my understanding is yes. If not I should be able to install it using Goo manager. from what I've read the developers for GooManager are very serious and would not allow a non working application to remain in their program.

sleekmason said:
Howdy, I plan on rooting my tablet in a few days. The instructions say to root, then, flash stock recovery. Is flashing the stock recovery necessary if i plan on using goo to install twrp recovery prior to flashing cleanrom on my device?
Also, the cleanrom thread says to flash the appropriate version of twrp. Am I to assume the latest version on goo is the ticket for that?
Also, while the dev has indicated there will be further versions after 1.2, can I expect to simply download updates, or expect to flash new versions every time? I guess this particular question doesn't really matter I'm just interested.
And finally, has anybody used heimdall with any success with the p600? Google says no...
I would have posted this on the clean rom thread but was not allowed since I have not had enough posts yet. moving this to there would not hurt my feelings.
I appreciate any and all help and of course feel appreciation and give thanks to the developers who have put in such great effort. Thank you.
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You wont need to root if your intent is to just flash my ROM.
Appropriate version would be 2.6.3.3
As far as updates / patches... Depends on the issue. Mostly do full updates if something changes. If its a bug fix then I would just do a patch.
Hemidall? No, never tried it.
Basically to flash a custom ROM you just need to flash TWRP using Odin then flash the ROM using TWRP.
You dont techincally need to root unless you want to stay stock and have root. But that is no fun!
Also, the goo.im app does not work with this device so you have to use Odin manually (for simplicity).
Hope this helps!

sleekmason said:
that sounds great but doesn't TWRP need root in order to be installed? my understanding is yes. If not I should be able to install it using Goo manager. from what I've read the developers for GooManager are very serious and would not allow a non working application to remain in their program.
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I read the TWRP thread, and others are having problems installing through goomanager. I also wanted to install it that way, but it wouldn't work. But it didnt work. It also wouldn't flash through the stock recovery. Hence, odin.
Sent from my SM-P600

thank you for the clarification! in order to flash TWRP in Odin do I simply use the AP slot as you would to flash autoroot by their directions?
one of the things thats tripped me up is that on the TWR P site as well as in Google Play it says you must have a rooted device. This would suggest that in order to get TWRP on your device it would already have to be rooted. it seems strange to me that the tablet will allow odin to install it on a non rooted device.
hoops I guess. So being a non Windows user, that is not familiar with the Windows operating system,( bet you don't hear that everyday) ,I would suppose the order would go something like this.
1 download Samsung drivers from kies.1
2. Download TWRP from site for odin.
3. Open odin.
4. go to download mode on device.
5. Plugin device and wait for it to be recognized.
6. Drag the Twrp zip for odin to the AP slot, enter,
7. Wait for it to .......?
8. Reboot.
9 download the cleanrom rom.
10. Reboot into recovery
11. Installcleanrom
12 enjoy.
a couple of other questions concerning the SD card. Should I leave it in during any or all of these processes? I've seen where other people have had problems with their SD card not being read is this due to it not being installed when they install clean rom? I really do appreciate all the help.
not breaking my device by doing something stupid is paramount. Lol! as I will be using my daughters computer any other information regarding the installation of the Samsung drivers or Odin would be much appreciated I do not want to hurt her computer.

I kept my SD card installed while flashing TWRP in Odin and had no problems. If you're worried then take it out. As far as Odin goes... run it as an admin and after connecting your Note (in DL mode) just click on "AP" and navigate to the directory where you saved the TWRP file. From there just hit "start" and your good to go. Odin isn't gonna mess anything up on your daughters pc and if you have a copy of the stock recovery just reflash it if you run into problems with TWRP. Also, read through all the different threads/watch YouTube videos. Most of this has been covered many times over and you can see what success or problems others have had.

MK1 and root

Hey guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me a little. I just bought this tablet (2014 version) and it has MK1.
I am trying to read information on how to root it but can't figure it out. I tried to flash autoroot with odin but it errored. I didn't find mk1 autoroot anywhere so i used autorootp600.mj4.tar.md5. Is there autoroot for MK1 and i can use? Also i guess i will need to have custom recovery file for my stock OS, where do i get that?
Thank you in advance for all the help.
Edit: I finally located autoroot for mk1 and it worked. But i do have a question: why do we need to flash it with Stock Recovery after? btw i am using this tutorial : http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition/

What version do you have?
P600 (wifi only)
P601 (3g)
P605 (lte)
?
They have different chipsets and different root methods.
[e] I see you have found the correct version if you want to get OTA updates you need to flash stock recovery so your device status is not custom. But it basically doesn't matter since you can always flash updates through odin. You may choose a custom recovery that offers you a lot of cool features instead.

stamina11 said:
Hey guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me a little. I just bought this tablet (2014 version) and it has MK1.
I am trying to read information on how to root it but can't figure it out. I tried to flash autoroot with odin but it errored. I didn't find mk1 autoroot anywhere so i used autorootp600.mj4.tar.md5. Is there autoroot for MK1 and i can use? Also i guess i will need to have custom recovery file for my stock OS, where do i get that?
Thank you in advance for all the help.
Edit: I finally located autoroot for mk1 and it worked. But i do have a question: why do we need to flash it with Stock Recovery after? btw i am using this tutorial : http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition/
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I believe...... so you can still get OTA updates and some functions like All Share Cast may not work if you don't.

The thing is, even if you have stock recovery but modify your system in other ways like uninstall alot of bloatware or use busybox your status will be custom anyway so I recommend a custom recovery for the safety of using backups etc.

Thank you guys for responding so quickly.
It's starting to make sense.
My device is Wifi only so SM-P600 (mk1). I rooted it but haven't flashed with stock recovery. Would you guys recommend i do a custom recovery or keep it stock? Where do i get stock recovery from? i can't seem to find it.

clouds5 said:
The thing is, even if you have stock recovery but modify your system in other ways like uninstall alot of bloatware or use busybox your status will be custom anyway so I recommend a custom recovery for the safety of using backups etc.
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Yea i definitely plan on de-bloating it. So where do you get custom recovery?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656
Check this thread

clouds5 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656
Check this thread
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Ok, that makes sense i went though it. So i see that there is ClockMod and TWRP and GooManager, do they do pretty much the same thing?

So as far as Roms go, i see that in Development section there are few ROMs available but some say they are for MJ9 or ML1, i cannot use those on my MK1 right? Do ROMs from note 10.1 (2013) work on this device? Is there a list of ROMs that would work on my device.
Sorry, guys i know these are newb questions but i just could never figure out some of this stuff.

stamina11 said:
Ok, that makes sense i went though it. So i see that there is ClockMod and TWRP and GooManager, do they do pretty much the same thing?
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I got the same question here. Any help?

legender said:
I got the same question here. Any help?
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Goomanager is an app use it to flash twrp recovery.
TWRP and clockmod (CWM) they are 2 different tools but have the exact same functions, just a user choice. Sometimes custom rom preferred one over the other. I like TWRP a bit better (easier).

is there a way to check if it is rooted or not?

legender said:
is there a way to check if it is rooted or not?
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Download rootchecker in the play store
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[Q] Root + Recovery question

Hello,
I always had a HTC, so I'm kind of a new with rooting and unlocking an LG.
I have a LG D855 international and I have been reading a lot in this forum and I think that I've figured it out. But I just wont to be sure.
So if I'm right than I can root my phone by running purpledrake. When I've done that I have to install SU.
But if I understand it correcly the only way to get twrp is with" Bump'ed TWRP" so it's only possible to have TWRP if I use a custom rom?
So it's not possible to have orig Rom an TWRP? Right?
But If I just root my phone with purpledrake, so without installing TWRP and without custom Rom, I would still be able to use EXPOSED? RIght?

bamps said:
Hello,
I always had a HTC, so I'm kind of a new with rooting and unlocking an LG.
I have a LG D855 international and I have been reading a lot in this forum and I think that I've figured it out. But I just wont to be sure.
So if I'm right than I can root my phone by running purpledrake. When I've done that I have to install SU.
But if I understand it correcly the only way to get twrp is with" Bump'ed TWRP" so it's only possible to have TWRP if I use a custom rom?
So it's not possible to have orig Rom an TWRP? Right?
But If I just root my phone with purpledrake, so without installing TWRP and without custom Rom, I would still be able to use EXPOSED? RIght?
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Yes Purple Drake is currently the most reliable root method, once you have root you need to install the SuperSU app of your choice.
Don't confuse yourself with Bump! Just accept that this is the only recovery that works with the G3 and install it then use it like normal. You will only be able to flash custom kernels (and roms with custom kernels) after they have been bumped, this is something the developer will do for you not anything for you to be concerned with, and fairly soon (when this method is released) all custom roms and kernels you find on xda will be pre-bumped - so basically you can treat the recovery like you always have done.
Xposed is nothing to do with recovery and everything to do with having root access.

Does this recovery back up my stock rom safely? I'm hesitant to use it because I've never heard of bump.

davidstjohn1 said:
Does this recovery back up my stock rom safely? I'm hesitant to use it because I've never heard of bump.
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Nope, afaik, once on bumped twrp, u can't restore stock recovery. For that you will again have to flash the stock KDZ.

OK so it's only for bumped roms. Thank you

davidstjohn1 said:
OK so it's only for bumped roms. Thank you
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The user above you is wrong and didnt read your question properly.
You CAN back up your stock ROM, just install bump, head to recovery and do a backup - you will never get stock recovery back though, unless you flash a KDZ with Flashtool.
But yes you can use TWRP to back up your currenty stock ROM.

Okay I get it the only way to restore the rom that I backed up is to add bump to it! ok I got it but in order to get back my stock phone I'm going to have to use the LG flash tool right

Lennyuk said:
Yes Purple Drake is currently the most reliable root method, once you have root you need to install the SuperSU app of your choice.
Don't confuse yourself with Bump! Just accept that this is the only recovery that works with the G3 and install it then use it like normal. You will only be able to flash custom kernels (and roms with custom kernels) after they have been bumped, this is something the developer will do for you not anything for you to be concerned with, and fairly soon (when this method is released) all custom roms and kernels you find on xda will be pre-bumped - so basically you can treat the recovery like you always have done.
Xposed is nothing to do with recovery and everything to do with having root access.
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Thanx a lot.
I just wanted to make sure that I have everything right.
Thanks again