Is it necessary to flash a Kernal after flashing a custom rom ?
I am thinking of flashing CM 9 or Liquid Rom. Which is the best kernal to flash with them.
-The correct spelling is kernel.
-It is not necessary to flash a new kernel with a rom. In general roms will package the stock kernel unless they note otherwise.
-I am personally a fan of leankernel because of the mission statement behind its development and the accessibility and speed of its update cycle.
Nope. Custom roms have kernels included, so you are not required to download a separate kernel. However, some kernels run better (ie, more fluid, less heat, reboots, etc) than others on the same device. It all depends on the silicon in your phone. If you plan to run cm9, I recommend sticking with the default kernel. If you're going with Liquid, use imoseyon's leankernel (the default) or franco kernels.
Edit: BTW, I highly recommend franco's kernel app, especially if you are new to the scene. It can download & install either franco or imoseyon kernels, making kernel flashing stupid easy. It also lets you overclock & undervolt, change governors and tweak color settings. And it is the easiest way to keep up with nightly/experimental builds. Not to mention it shows your support and encourages more development.
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i say try them all, but for cm9 i recommend fugumod.
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Thanks you all for your suggestions ...
finally going to try Liquid Smooth 1.25 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555667)
along with Franco.Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341)
...... One last question Which Franco Kernel to flash there are Milestone 2, Milestone 1, Nightly ??? Whats the difference between them ?
Also when installing extras for liquid smooth do i need to wipe everything again .. I am new to this flashing stuff
and does Liquid Smooth comes with a kernel if so which one ?
Latest milestone is the most stable. Nightlies are experimental. And no need to wipe.
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@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.
sublimaze said:
@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.
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thanks .... extremely useful info
Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash
cldwar said:
Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash
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If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.
bk201doesntexist said:
If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.
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those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??
cldwar said:
those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??
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doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.
Rcommander said:
doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.
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Don't I need to get the boot loader etc back to orignal in order to receive the updates ... ? If so how ?
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Kernal?
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......
falconfan said:
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......
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Use liquid rom with Franco milestone built ... gave me a 4+ hour screen time. Don't know why but the nightly version reduces battery life
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I'm running Liquid 1.3 and am using Franco nightly #143 and, so far, my battery life is really great. I was at 89% after 2 hours. I also want to try Milestone 3, that just came out yesterday and see how it performs.
Hello dear Community,
i am owning a GN and i Rooted it about 2 weeks ago.
So now my problem is i tryed some Roms and Kernels.
But i wasnt happy with theese.
To much bugs or to fast Battery drain. And instable.
So my question is which Kernel and Roms are good?
I prefer:
Good - High Battery perfomance
Stable.
Can have a good design.
And a lot Functionality.
My GN is GSM. With Maguro.
Im Actually using PARANOIDANDROID.
Sry for my english, thats scool english
Ant thanks a lot for all replies
PARANOIDANDROID is a good ROM but a little Alpha imho. I recommend the following in order of quality and support. I'll recommend Franco nightly kernel with either LiquidSmooth 1.35 or FoxHound 0.6. I'd recommend BAMF but if you go to their thread for support, they got some real douches in there.
Well thank u for ur reply.
I am not a pro but a newbie at flashing roms and kernels.
But i wanna try ur Variation.
Can u explain me how to Install them?
thanks a lot
AOKP + Franco.
zephiK said:
AOKP + Franco.
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+ 1 all the way
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I like my no frills kernel
Flukester69 said:
PARANOIDANDROID is a good ROM but a little Alpha imho. I recommend the following in order of quality and support. I'll recommend Franco nightly kernel with either LiquidSmooth 1.35 or FoxHound 0.6. I'd recommend BAMF but if you go to their thread for support, they got some real douches in there.
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I hope you aren't referring to us...
imnuts said:
I like my no frills kernel
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Me too.
Liquid 1.35 and Franco kernel gives great battery life and pretty good options and stability
AOKP milestone 5 & Franco gives options and stability, though the battery life does not match liquid.
To flash these ROMS, go to their threads and download rom and latest gapps(pls check if reqd or included in rom) onto phone.
Reboot into recovery
Take a complete back up
Factory reset
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik
Flash new rom
Flash gapps if reqd
Reboot phone
Sign into google
Reboot phone
Wait a few mins
Reboot into recovery (if flashing kernel)
Wipe dalvik
Wipe cache
Flash custom kernel
Reboot phone
If using Franco then download the Franco paid app to get the best from the kernel.
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at francos site is a link with "/nightlies" and there are a lot dl's.
Can anyone explain for what they are?
Flawliix said:
at francos site is a link with "/nightlies" and there are a lot dl's.
Can anyone explain for what they are?
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Nightlies are the beta version of the kernel updated for testing on a regular basis. Always download the latest one. In that u have 512 gpu (overclocked) & 384 gpu. Try 512 first if it works for you without any issues (try with a game) then great, else flash the 384 version which is more stable.
If you want complete stability then go for milestone 3.
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Hi I was wondering what is the best Kernel for the T-Mobile version of the SG2 when it comes to battery like and performance. Right now I am running CM10 4.1.2 and its stock kernel that comes with the ROM. I am fairly new to this whole process so if I flash a new kernel do I have to wipe everything or just the cache? Please help me. Thank you
You shouldn't need to wipe everything but I do if I can. Ocd.
Also, some ROMs are not compatible with all kernels and vise versa. There is no best kernel IMO. Just test em out.
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Like said before, there isn't a best kernel. But read through the threads and but can see what each one does and it's problems.
I would recommend lightning zap but u have to do some digging in the pages. It's stable, best performance and battery life
Also u don't have to wipe anything but it's recommended to flash after a new rom flash
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Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
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Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
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ak kernal, fraco is also a great option, but i personally prefer ak.
leanKernel
Just flashed stock 4.2.2 and flahsed franco r365. Seems that the battery is better than before. I will report in the next days.
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All kernels aim to give better battery life while not sacrificing too much performance.
Kernels need a little while to settle down so try one out and give it a day before passing judgment and if it doesn't give desired results for your rom and device then try another.
AK Kernel 4.2.2
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Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
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I've had a ton of success with AK kernels. Morfic and LeanKernel too, but lately the AK ones seem the best for me. I run a custom ROM tho, and I've seen that a lot of folks really like Morfic on stock 4.2.2.
If you're on VZW or Sprint, you may have to flash the GPU binaries to be able to install a true 4.2.2 kernel, otherwise you're phone wont boot and you'll have to reflash a 4.2.1 kernel to get back up and running.
I know Tiny (he's got a great kernel too) posted this flashable binary, in case this helps. Here's the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38034158&postcount=22
Ive been searching XDA for the TW 4.1.2 ktoonsez kernel, but I cant find it. can anyone link to a working download for the T-mobile S3? Thanks
LuigiBull has a massive thread with every version of that kernel. Including the one you are after. But my advice is to avoid the TW version. It's not good, stock is much better.
Thanks. I know I've seen that thread somewhere but I couldn't find it. I'm running goosh Rom and it's great but I wanted to try the ktoonz kernel since I've heard so much about it. Is there another TW kernel for 4.1.2 that would be good, or are all TW kernels not that great?
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Thanks. I know I've seen that thread somewhere but I couldn't find it. I'm running goosh Rom and it's great but I wanted to try the ktoonz kernel since I've heard so much about it. Is there another TW kernel for 4.1.2 that would be good, or are all TW kernels not that great?
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faux has one. I tried it and wasn't impressed. I keep going back to the stock MD5 kernel. I've heard the AT&T MG2 kernel is good, but I've never used it.