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Hi, I have been searching on the forum in search of some information on MicroSD cards and came to no avail.
With my HD, it came with a 8GB Class 6 MicroSDHC. I think it needed it to play videos. I can't imagine using it with a slower card.
Now, my TP2 will arrive Monday and I would like to know the following:
1. Brand
2. Size
3. Speed (class)
4. Price
Is it performing well with the video playbacks or have you installed the SD Tuner software available for the HD?
What do you recommend?
Many, many thanks for any replies, comments and help!
Bought a A-Data microSD class 6, 4 GB at a local computer store.
Not the one i was looking for, i wanted the 8GB or 16GB but both where not in stock and the 4GB was less then 10 euros. I will buy a larger one in a few months.
With class 6 my phone isn't slowed down. A few years ago i bought a 2GB mini-SD, but my HTC Vox was slowed down very much. Didn't look to the class/or speed back then.
MicroSD cards based on SLC might be beter them MLC. IMHO i would always take a class 6 or higher card. However class 8 cards are hard to find.
I'm using the 8GB Class 4 card that came with my daughter's Nokia 5800 and it seems fine. Just watched an xdiv episode of Only Fools and Horses on it with no stutter or dropped frames.
I bought a class 6 off Ebay and it should be here on Monday so I can compare then
i'm using sandisk 8g class 2. whatched movies and played music, everything is fine. It only cost me just under tenner.
The performance diference between a class 2 or a class 6 is not that noticeable. However, at the price the cards are, I think it worths always to buy a class 6 card.
I bought a Transcend 8GB class 6 card. It cost me aprox. 20€.
The biggest differences I noticed between a class 2 and 6 card are:
-Taking photos is faster with class 6
-Browsing photos in sdcard is a bit faster also
-Viewing movies sometimes is a bit more smooth.
HastaSSSS
I have a 16GB class 2 Sandisk. I watch movies just fine. I figure with a class 6 i might be able to watch HD videos more smoothly.
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your replies. So from what you guys are telling me, it is always better to pay that little extra for the class 6 MicroSDs. But then again, is it worth investing in a 16GB Class 4 (no Class 6 available except the brand A-Data) or an 8GB Class 6.
16GB is nearly 4 times more expensive than the 8GB and yet it is slower. Shall I just get 2 8GB and hot swap the 2 cards as need be?
I bought a class 6 off Ebay and it should be here on Monday so I can compare then
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Yeah, please let us know if it makes that much of a difference.
Bought a A-Data microSD class 6, 4 GB at a local computer store.
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I have read about this brand, and what others said was that their Class 6 under performs Sandisk's Class 4 Cards. Do yo notice any differences? How is the performance?
Also, I wouldn't recommend buying these cards off eBay. There are so many, fake cards on there. I know so, because I know mates that sell these cards. I would just buy from a genuine local store and pay a little bit more unless you don't care about performance.
Anyway, my last question.
What brand do you think has the best performance. Yeah, we can find out all the data about these cards on the web but it's nothing like the hands on tests from real users. So, will it be Sandisk, Transend, Toshiba, Kingston or the later A-Data?
Found a pretty review on the Sandisk 16GB C4 MicroSDHC cards. They compared it to the Kingston 8GB C4 MicroSDHC card.
Sandisk seems to be the company that is producing the fastest cards. It out performs Kingston.
But $133, is a bit steep. I think if I am correct a Sandisk 8GB C6 MicroSDHC is only $49.
What do you think?
You won't notice much difference between class 2 and class 6 as the device can only read at a certain speed, which is nearer class 4.
There are some cheap class 2 16gb cards out there, I have them and you only really notice if you install something like sdtuneup, but then again, you wouldn't notice much difference between class4 and class6
SanDisk microSDHC 16 GB Mobile Ultra works fine!
With the enclosed reader it is really fast via USB.
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the device can only read at a certain speed, which is nearer class 4.
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Cheers for the heads up about the TP2's read speed.
I was going to go for a 16GB class 2 but now might hold out for a class 4.
Haven't noticed any speed difference between my 8GB class 4 and 6 cards except that it's possibly slower than my Trinity but that may be due to the crummy TP2 stock ROM...
cocoaju said:
Shall I just get 2 8GB and hot swap the 2 cards as need be?
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Please don't get two 8GB's, you will ruin the back cover of the device swapping the cards over all the time
My understanding is that the Class affects write speed, not read speed, so you won't see a difference playing movies on one or the other. You will see a difference in the amount of time it takes to get the movie onto the card (providing you aren't using ActiveSync, which will slow things down way beyond Class2 speeds).
I have a SanDisk Class 2 16 GB card on my Vogue and watch movies just fine with CorePlayer. Maybe a brief stutter once every 5 minutes or so, which I attribute to WinMo doing some other task in the background, not the read speed of the card.
In short, if it doesn't matter to you how long it takes to transfer large files onto the card, go with the least expensive.
Haven't noticed any speed difference between my 8GB class 4 and 6 cards except that it's possibly slower than my Trinity but that may be due to the crummy TP2 stock ROM...
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Really? How much slower?
Yeah, I think I will go for 16GB for sure. The only thing now is what class. I am hearing 2 things here. I am worried about stutters on watching movies.
Some are saying speed only matters to write and not read.
But then I have read that it does matter, that is why there is a SDTuneUp for the HD.
I really don't want to buy a cheaper Class 2 card and only finding it is not working to my standards. I am pretty fussy about these things.
Any of you needed to install the SDTuneUp registry edit for the TP2? Do we need it? Anyone did any tests?
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Really? How much slower?
Yeah, I think I will go for 16GB for sure. The only thing now is what class. I am hearing 2 things here. I am worried about stutters on watching movies.
Some are saying speed only matters to write and not read.
But then I have read that it does matter, that is why there is a SDTuneUp for the HD.
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Check this out.
And this.
Class rating only refers to write speed, even though on the official SD association page it says "transfer speed." What they don't say is that it's transfer speed only one direction.
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Check this out.
And this.
Class rating only refers to write speed, even though on the official SD association page it says "transfer speed." What they don't say is that it's transfer speed only one direction.
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Hello ajbopp,
Thanks for your additional information. I think not a lot of people actually realise this. I always thought the Class Rating was how you determine transfer speed and not just write speed.
But there must be some ratings for Reading. Some cards are faster than others and that will certainly affect the rate of requiring information from the card, right? Because files are written in blocks and are distributed everywhere (fragmentation), so if the card is faster, then finding the blocks will be quicker, hence a better performance for reading movie files.
Just thinking logically how computer hard disk works. Not sure if that applies to SDHC cards. I also think the speed is also determined by the drive (the hardware reading/writing on the card).
There aren't many information on this. I have been searching around and most information I found was given by the companies that made these cards. Real tests are few and far between. Most websites I visited, tells me only of the write speed as I think that is what is most important to people who uses these cards, such as Photo Fanatics who needs speed for taking high end photos very quickly and for taking HD videos at 30fps. There is less need to know about read speed.
It's so confusing...
Got it yesterday. Thanks for all your help guys!
I finally went for the Transcend 8GB Class 6 Micro SDHC. Cost of only $187 HKD, roughly $23 USD. Didn't end up getting the 16GB as they didn't have any in stock and it costs 3 times the amount.
Without any tests, I just loaded my movies and it played very well. No dropped frames. No tweaks whatsoever.
Hello!
I had a TP with a Micro SD 8GB Class 2 card.
I'm considering buying a new one (lack of space available) and I wonder if I should consider a class 4 or 6...
I use the MicroSD to store software, pictures (camera), music (to listen), and some videos (to watch).
I don't intend to remove the microsd from the TP2 slot (have to remove the cover) so what I usually do is to connect via USB cable (data instead of AS).
So, transfering data like this will I notice difference with Class 2, 4 or 6?
I'd get a good price with this:
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-SDC2-16GB-microSDHC/dp/B001RPD06I
is it good enough or should I buy a Sandisk or perhaps a Class 4 or 6?
Thanks
SanDisk and Kingston are both good manufactures.
Class 4 is faster than class 2 and class 6 is faster than class 4.
But on the other hand: class 4 cards need more power consumption than class 2 cards and class 6 cards need power consumption than class 4.
For this reason I bought 1 x 16gb class 4. That is the compromise of speed and power.
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Class 4 is faster than class 2 and class 6 is faster than class 4.
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Again, this is only for write speed. I think it's an important distinction to make, especially if you are hoping for better video playback because of a faster card. The class of the card is not likely to have any impact on the device's performance, either video or anything else (other than file saving/writing operations).
so... for my kinda use there is no need for a class 6 right?
do you think a class 2 kingston MicroSD 16GB can be used for what I want?
playback music and some video... storage ... navigation?
Patriot has released a Class 10 32GB micro SDHC card.
Newegg is out of stock but has the price as $99.99.
Just thought y'all might want to know.
Edit: Newegg sez its availability will be 1/8/2011
Do our phones support 32GB microSDs? I read somewhere that 32GB didn't work with our Vibrants which was really ****ty but...was what it was.
Can someone either confirm this or deny it? Specifically, do so by testing with a specific 32GB card...
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Do our phones support 32GB microSDs? I read somewhere that 32GB didn't work with our Vibrants which was really ****ty but...was what it was.
Can someone either confirm this or deny it? Specifically, do so by testing with a specific 32GB card...
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I've had a 32 GB microSD in mine for months - works fine!
I listen to music (I have approx 20 gigs of music stored on it) and store the pix I take with the camera on it - haven't had any problems.
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Patriot has released a Class 10 32GB micro SDHC card.
Newegg is out of stock but has the price as $99.99.
Just thought y'all might want to know.
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dude this is amazing i will watch that item like a hawk untill it is in my phone and oh yes it will be mine class 10 all the way
Can our phones support class 10, I know it will work but is there speed benefits.
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Can our phones support class 10, I know it will work but is there speed benefits.
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The benefit would probably be in it being able to keep up with HD video recording, and decreased time scanning the microsdhc card when booting up, or mounting or unmounting it.
Yet, the bigger the card and more data would slow down the scanning. Double edge sword.
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Yet, the bigger the card and more data would slow down the scanning. Double edge sword.
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Maybe. I depends on how many files it has to catalog. I imagine that a 32GB microsd with 10 2.3GB movies would scan much faster than a 8GB card filled with mp3s
Have you noticed that the card makers are going away from what the Class system is supposed to be. Look at the transfer rates of the Class 4 cards now and they are equal or better than some of the class 10 cards. Doesn't make sense to me, but maybe people didn't understand the Class system and its relationship to transfer rates.
So the Class system is supposed to specify a minimum transfer rate, which increases as the Class goes up.
However, it seems that it is applied arbitrarily by different manufacturers.
Check SD card wiki for more information.
Newegg says they are available
Newegg just notified me that the Patriot 32Gb class 10 micro SDHC is now available. Now it is $99.99.
Newegg also has a Wintec Class 10 32GB for 82.49 - it isn't by Patriot, but it comes with a lifetime warranty.
I have a Wintec 16 gig class 10 in my Vibrant.
Works very well, very snappy performance.
I've never figured out a way to test it in the phone, but thru a adapter on my laptop it hovers around 17-18 meg thruput both read and write.
(edit) BTW, I got it at Frys.
It was 38.99$
Nice price.
Patriot LX 32GB Class 10 benchmarked with SD Tools v1.3
(HTC Desire HD + Android v2.2 rooted)
Oh, by the way, about the SD Class system, it only rate the minimum sustained write speed of the card, but not for random writes.
Wow. That's pretty awful if the benchmark is to be believed.
i have a scandisk class 4 32gb , it has a write speed of 4.8 and a read 11.4
Semi-related, I have a patriot 8gb class 10 card that is holding up very well, including quick transfers. Patriot seems to be pretty good stuff, so I'm considering getting a 16 and passing the 8 down to my girlfriend. I don't think I could find a need for 48GB on the phone, except to hold backups for reflashing.
I'm going to buy a 16GB microsd card from sandisk. I've been finding on Amazon and found these two products:
Sandisk 16GB Mobile Ultra MicroSD Card : £36.00
SanDisk 16GB microSDHC Memory Card : £15.99
I've also noticed they're all class 2 (can't find a class 4 or class 6 sandisk). So what is the difference between them? I'm using the card for Windows Phone 7, so which one should I buy?
Ha, i'm looking to buy a 16Gb card for my htc desire and I was looking at exactly the same cards.
As far as I found so far the ultra version seems to be class 4.
If you have any new info it will me much appreciated.
well in some pages you can find comparative boxes about those micro sd, i remember that microsd 16 gb sandisk (class4) is more faster than 16 gb kingtons class4 , so i supousse that this ultra micro sd is like class 6 real XD, i will find some information about it, oh plz don't forget that some devices don't support those kind of micro sd (an example htc hd2 has little bugs with microsd class 4, i have one...)
Sorry if i don't write well but i'm peruavian =)
Hey guys,
Can any of you confirm if Android is booting from Sandisk 16GB Mobile Ultra MicroSD Card ?
I want to buy one but i saw in forums that some cards doesn't work for this..
the ultra one has the better speed and more stable than the normal one. And, it has the same compatitablity.
So, if you are not concern about the price, the ultra one is the better choice.
Also, that should have the extreme III type, that is the best~
Go for the Ultra microSD, it's faster!! been using a 8Gig on my phone and damn its fast!!
16GB Sandisk Micro SDHC
I'm currently using 16GB Sandisk Micro SDHC (class 4) for my LG P500. It is fast & I have not encountered any issues so far.
I've been using Sandisk memory cards for other gadgets & I think it is one of the most reliable brands that is available in my location.
With sandisk/kingston, class 2 should be fine too. CLASS 4 might help recording high def video
Stick with the name brands and forget the Chinese non name brand off off of Flea-bay, they are crap and do not work imho!!
The more expensive cards are usually just higher speed.
I use fast cards in my DSLR to help when shooting bursts. Slower cards fill up, and drop the fps.
I'm currently using 16GB Sandisk Micro SDHC
Go for the Ultra microSD, it's faster!!
You should choose your memory card depending on what you're going to use it for. Either way, you should go with Sandisk cards, as they are the highest quality and produce their own chips. Kingstons should be avoided even though for some reason they are known as a quality brand... kingston just buys chips from other manufacturers and puts their name on them.... you will find many different kinds of chips inside kingston, so you will find more variation and defects from batch to batch.
As far as class, that is only referring to the sequential write speed. If you are getting the card for a digital camera, then a high class card is good, because you will be writing a lot of files sequentially.
But if you plan on using the card for WP7 or to run android of off, generally a class 2 or 4 card is better, because they have better random access speeds. The tweaks card makers do to make cards have higher sequential write speeds many times will lower the random access speed, so you will have more issues running WP7 or Android off of a class 6 or 10 card.
for 8gb ultra i got with usb2.0 card reader : 13mb/s write , 20.5mb/s read
I know the thread is old, but still.
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You should choose your memory card depending on what you're going to use it for. Either way, you should go with Sandisk cards, as they are the highest quality and produce their own chips. Kingstons should be avoided even though for some reason they are known as a quality brand... kingston just buys chips from other manufacturers and puts their name on them.... you will find many different kinds of chips inside kingston, so you will find more variation and defects from batch to batch.
As far as class, that is only referring to the sequential write speed. If you are getting the card for a digital camera, then a high class card is good, because you will be writing a lot of files sequentially.
But if you plan on using the card for WP7 or to run android of off, generally a class 2 or 4 card is better, because they have better random access speeds. The tweaks card makers do to make cards have higher sequential write speeds many times will lower the random access speed, so you will have more issues running WP7 or Android off of a class 6 or 10 card.
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I know thread is too old to write anything. But still (since google pointed me here)...
I've used both types of cards and have found that Sandisc ultra (Red & Black) is far better in speeds and reliability than the Sandisc simple/normal black colour chips. Also know that there are further/more better than ultra, called by Sandisc as extreme and Extreme Pro.
Also warranty for all is same: Lifetime. And Sandisc provided me a new chip within 25 days after my old 32 normal chip went faulty.
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I would always buy a class 10 card, because when you copy your photos it doesn't take so much time...
I discovered - the hard way - that "normal" class 2 or 4 MicroSD cards won't stay alive very long on Samsung Note 4 or similar phones... One day they stop working and all pictures and info is lost forever. The only MicroSD that can get the job done is a Class 10 UHC Sandisk card. I have used Kingston and all died only after a few months, specially if you install apps on them. They can´t handle the workload and you will end up losing everything you have on them. I have one of the red and gray Sandisk cards and it's awesome. It's fast and it's still working after 2 and a half years of use in a Sony Xperia Z2. Gotta love this little tough card.
I want to max out the memory with a 32gb SDHC. Anyone have any suggestions?
The SanDisk 32GB is very good,
it performs higher than stated with regards to class and obviously is a highly reliable make.
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Another vote here for sandisk, havent actually tried their 32GB, but every other card i've had from them has been faultless.
Most important thing w.r.t. memory cards IMO, is to buy from a reliable source. Ebay is rife with fakes.
Arc can handle up to class 6?
Or i shall order a class 8 or 10.
When i bought arc i had in the case a 16gb sdhc card, but i want a faster one
someone was able to get between 6.00 to 6.79 MB/s on his Class 6 16GB MicroSD, but that was on an X10. you might get similar results on the Arc.
(source)
just got a lexar 32gb class 10 card from amazon (solutek) works great , faster than standard card supplied with arc
I guess I'll try the Sandisk, much appreciated guys. Now I just need this phone to be shipped.
I Bought a Sandisk Class 4 32GB and it works fine for me.
The data transfer to the card seems faster when I take it out of the phone.
I was thinking of getting Lexar MicroSDHC 32 GB Class 10 from amazon for my arc so anyone have it already and how is it? cus i didn't see any sandisk microsd have class 10 32Gb.
I've used the original Sandisk MicroSd 8 Gb (Class 2) and a Class 6 variant... When you copy big numbers of mp3 or movies to the phone, it really makes a difference. Example: with a Class 2 it takes about up to 1 or more hours to transfer 1 Gb - a Class 6 does the job in less then 5 minutes...! But if you want to buy a good rated SD because of the HD-camera, then Class 2 should be high enough (according to the experts). Any higher only helps if you transfer data a lot/often (like changing your musiccollection on the Arc).
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I was thinking of getting Lexar MicroSDHC 32 GB Class 10 from amazon for my arc so anyone have it already and how is it? cus i didn't see any sandisk microsd have class 10 32Gb.
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i'm on 32gb class10 Lexar, so far so good
+1 for The lexar class 10. Very good !!! The best solution with The sandisk class 4.
I bought a Kingstone 16GB Class 4, at first it was impressive but now it jams when shoot a video a lot.
speed of the memory:
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btw, if anyone spots a good micro sd 16gb class 6 or higher please inform me.
I become a 16GB Class 2 Card but this card was wrong, the write speed is 3Mb/s, then I bought a new 16GB Class 10 Card. This card speed: 11.3/20.9 (write/read) the i am happy The maked HD video is better and the frame rate is really 30fps
UPDATE: The card worked much data disappeared from him then until 5 days. The next day the telephone did not see the card already though. F***ing noname card! Nobody let me not buy it trademarkless card!
Locally I can get Kingston, Kingmax, Serioux, PNY and a few Sandisks. Now I know Sandisks are cream of the crop that's why I can get a really cheap 32gb Sandisk class 4 from a forum brand new.
How does the Play react to 32gb sd cards?
Is class 4 sufficient or is it actually an optimum class for this phone?
Cheers in advance
Ok so here are 2 screenshots of the package of the guy's Sandisks that he's selling. Please post info's to help me out if at a glance anything is wrong ( if it's fake or not)
Cheers
Also I could buy a Samsung 16gb/class 6 microsd. It's specifications state a Read speed of: 24 mb/s and a Write speed of:13mb/s.
So come on guys, a little feedback pls?
I've heard class 4 is the best balance for the play (I got one myself) and if you can get a 32GB cheap it'll run perfectly (it supports upto 32gb officially) some have even got a 64gb running.
Yes Class 4 is pretty good for gaming, go for a 32GB class 4, I have a Transcend one and it is pretty solid so far.