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Techticker.co.uk have published this summary of the recently held UK TechDays seminar held by Microsoft to introduce developers to their new mobile OS.
While the 9 minute video by and large cover information we have heard earlier, one issue of note is that apparently each application will only have access to 2 GB of storage on the device, irrespective of the actual size of storage.
Don't really see that as a problem; the main storage hogs are going to be music/videos/pictures, which are handled through accesible libraries without this 2GB limit. Maps for GPS apps could hit the limit, although I think I see the envisaged scenario being more on streamed data with caching.
Yeah I don't see what's the problem here. Just more BS drama from WMPoweruser to generate traffic.
Tito662 said:
Yeah I don't see what's the problem here. Just more BS drama from WMPoweruser to generate traffic.
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The problem is that it's just heuristic restrictions on the usage of the operating system.
Why would you limit the size of the space an application can use? Is the underlying OS FAT32 and Microsoft is worried that stupid app developers will store everything as one monolithic file and therefore break their app when the store reaches 2GB?
It doesn't make sense, and restrictions that don't make sense -- regardless of what they are -- are a problem.
Yea, this is pretty restrictive, but you guys make it sound like 512MBs. How many apps do you have installed on your device as of now?
Spike15 said:
The problem is that it's just heuristic restrictions on the usage of the operating system.
Why would you limit the size of the space an application can use? Is the underlying OS FAT32 and Microsoft is worried that stupid app developers will store everything as one monolithic file and therefore break their app when the store reaches 2GB?
It doesn't make sense, and restrictions that don't make sense -- regardless of what they are -- are a problem.
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No, it's Silverlight Isolated Storage for saving stuff 'on disk'. SIS stores have specificed, finite sizes. Who knows, it might be fat32, might be exfat.
Spike15 said:
The problem is that it's just heuristic restrictions on the usage of the operating system.
Why would you limit the size of the space an application can use? Is the underlying OS FAT32 and Microsoft is worried that stupid app developers will store everything as one monolithic file and therefore break their app when the store reaches 2GB?
It doesn't make sense, and restrictions that don't make sense -- regardless of what they are -- are a problem.
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This is limited by Silvelight...
but i don't think this is a big problem,this limitation can easy change by update
This isn't really accurate. They haven't fully decided on a max space. WP7 uses exFAT and isn't limited to a single file size. I believe this can be configured per app and developers will be able to request more than 2GB if their app needs it for whatever reason. 2GB is just the 'default' and isn't even enforced in the CTP. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff402541(v=VS.92).aspx
My bigger problem with this isolated storage is that for no reason at all other than bad engineering it's incredibly slow. sviluppomobile.blogspot.com/2010/04/wp7-isolatedstorage-speed.html about 127x slower.
When I posted about this on the msdn forum, some MVP just basically told me to "use a webservice" and if i don't than this is not the platform for me.
I had issues with that when i was making some silverlight apps some time ago. But i figured them out. What microsoft is doing here with windows phone 7 is that they are using the phone to marry apps with their cloud counterparts. Apps like netflix ap mobile nytimes will use if at most 10 mb of local storage on the device. anyone that need more than 512 mb of local storage for their app, is doing something really wrong. in regards to speed of the local storage i have realised that each local storage created is essential a true isolated storage area. meaning its essentially a small partiton formatted in some format (might be fat) and all the process of reading from that and storing to it really gets some painful io problems. But it seems with windows phone 7 the unified storage engine seems to fix that. Essential from my views of the way my programs are working. when an app is launched. all other apps are essentialy frozen in their last state, so only essential apps and stacks are running. during this process the local storage is put into ram and the application access the program at close to the native speed of the ram. when a user hits the back button it essential takes the local storage and saves back to the slower storage medium and saves the state of the application..
hope this makes sense.
What do you plan on installing on your WP7? World of Warcraft?
Imho, you don't need more than 2 gigs per app, hell, even my Tomtom with all Europe installed on it fits on my 2 gigs microSD card.
Remember, it's a freaking phone!
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Is it possible to have zooper not round a math expression?
Specifically talking about free SD memory.
#SFSD# is returning 1.1GB
But in actual fact I have 1.09GB of free memory left.
Using this expression it rounds the result to 1.1
$#SFSDN#<1000?#SFSD##SFSDN#/1000)$GB
Can I have it show me 1.09?
In actual fact, zooper is returning a different value for free SD space to the value android tells me.
Zooper says 1099MB
Android settings says 1073MB?
Why the difference?
I'm running CyanogenMod 11.0
Valiceemo said:
Is it possible to have zooper not round a math expression?
Specifically talking about free SD memory.
#SFSD# is returning 1.1GB
But in actual fact I have 1.09GB of free memory left.
Using this expression it rounds the result to 1.1
$#SFSDN#<1000?#SFSD##SFSDN#/1000)$GB
Can I have it show me 1.09?
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Zopper does the rounding automatically so I don't think you can display the free space to more than 1 decimal point. Also to convert #SFSDN# to GB you should divide by 1024 not 1000.