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I780 and Skype

Hey guys,
Some people are claiming that Skype works properly on their I780... For me it doesn't... I can use it with a headset or the handsfree but the internal speaker (the one for normal phone calls) doesn't work. I've tried several Roms to check if there is one which makes Skype work but nothing worked...
So, I was just wondering if you could tell me about your experience with Skype. Is it working properly for you? If so, please let me know what you did to make it work.
Thanks guys!

no comments about skype on the I780? Does nobody wanna use it?

realtnt said:
Hey guys,
Some people are claiming that Skype works properly on their I780... For me it doesn't... I can use it with a headset or the handsfree but the internal speaker (the one for normal phone calls) doesn't work. I've tried several Roms to check if there is one which makes Skype work but nothing worked...
So, I was just wondering if you could tell me about your experience with Skype. Is it working properly for you? If so, please let me know what you did to make it work.
Thanks guys!
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As far as I know, Skype, or any other software, can't use the speaker that you would normally use for phone calls on Windows Mobile devices. Only the internal phone- and VoIP-application of Windows Mobile is allowed to use the speaker of the phone. All other applications must use the speaker on the back.
So there is no way to get this to work, unless Microsoft adds access to this speaker through their API.

I use Skype sometimese and it's really driving me mad that I can't use it with built-in phone speaker or BT headset.
It also seems not using all available bandwidth so the quality is only acceptable.

skype works on my i780.
one day i was in samsung service centre to upgrade my rom, the samsung service personel noticed my i780 had skype installed. he asked how i managed to get it works. lol
i told him i dont know, i just download and install

tirza said:
skype works on my i780.
one day i was in samsung service centre to upgrade my rom, the samsung service personel noticed my i780 had skype installed. he asked how i managed to get it works. lol
i told him i dont know, i just download and install
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So you are saying that your skype is working properly? You can use the earpiece of the phone to call people? Sorry man, but I think you are confusing something. I found out that some people thought their earpiece would be working but what they heard came from the handsfree speaker. If you turn down the volume of the handsfree speaker, it kind of sounds like the internal earpiece speaker... Can you check again please?

the phone would be just perfect with skype functionality but it cant use the normal earpiece...
Did anyone find a solution?

Maybe Skype Mobile 3 Beta is worth of checking out.

for my skye works (even trough normal built in speaker), but only wifi. Is it posible my provider (t-mobile nl) has disabled the port or something?

It looks like some of you don't pay atenttion to what is written here, and keeps asking the same question.
As Ralph said, there is no way to get around it. It's not just a Skype problem, It doesn't work with all the others third party applications.
The same thing happends with the front camera in all the Instant Messengers. It just doens't work.
Ralph Smeets said:
As far as I know, Skype, or any other software, can't use the speaker that you would normally use for phone calls on Windows Mobile devices. Only the internal phone- and VoIP-application of Windows Mobile is allowed to use the speaker of the phone. All other applications must use the speaker on the back.
So there is no way to get this to work, unless Microsoft adds access to this speaker through their API.
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lli said:
for my skye works (even trough normal built in speaker), but only wifi. Is it posible my provider (t-mobile nl) has disabled the port or something?
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I have the same problem but I found a trick!!
Launch Skype with no wifi.
Switch Wifi on (it is fine even if u are in an area with protected only or no access point at all).
You'll notice that your status will become available (green).
Switch Wifi off.
Don't ask me why.....but it seems to work!!

lli said:
for my skye works (even trough normal built in speaker), but only wifi. Is it posible my provider (t-mobile nl) has disabled the port or something?
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Do you mean that you can hear Skype call via earpiece?? Are u sure? It is not supported by skype it self!! In my opinion you are confusing the sound source. I'll be more than happy to be wrong.
Can u post your i780 ROM ans Skype version?

melgurth said:
Maybe Skype Mobile 3 Beta is worth of checking out.
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As far as audio routing is concerned.....Skype 3 beta is not working like previous build.

SKYPE 3 - Beta for WM (Support File Transfer)

Hello guy`s i decide to open new post to let you know that there is avalible new Skype for our device`s its still on Beta release and its not relieased officialy in the skype site but i found the program and the new skype work perfect on my HD the reason to open this new treath is to tell you that this new version support file transfer so NOW you can use skype to chat, call or even send and recive files!
I already try this new option and work without a problem now we have a real SKYPE soft for our device
I don`t know do i have permission to post here the application but like you know is freewere so i think will not have a problem if any of you peoples wana try this new SKYPE and can`t find it let me know i will upload it here!

post it! post it! post it! lol

I went to skype.com but with no luck, the software for wm is still version 2.5. Can you just post the link, thx.

Skype Beta 3.0
Here you go guy's! Runs perfectly on my HD.
http://rapidshare.com/files/218698041/SkypeMobile3.0-Beta.CAB

is it v3? It's on their site: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/windowsmobilebeta/

yeah ... as mentioned in these threads 2 weeks before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498166
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497862
release was on march 24 hf

Yes guys downlad this version 3 Beta work amazing without a problem

That's great, you can even send text messages.

is there a way to use skypout and listen with the phones ear speaker insead of speakerphone or headset?

richbensen said:
is there a way to use skypout and listen with the phones ear speaker insead of speakerphone or headset?
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What I do is to turn the volume down of the loud speaker (use the rocker etc) and when you put the phone to your ear: face the screen outwards so the loud speaker is on the ear.

is in this version support call when is device connect via activesync?

richbensen said:
is there a way to use skypout and listen with the phones ear speaker insead of speakerphone or headset?
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Please google search for Audio Route.

Is there anybody who's able to make a call with skype mobile. Everytime I'm trying to call somebody, skype is freezing and I have to softreset my device.
I've tried it with v2.5 and now I thought, that maybe v3.0 has fixed this issue, both versions with no luck though.
How can it be, that fring is working flawlessly, even the internal speaker is working, and the skype devs. are implementing new features without fixing old issues
I'm running Dutty's v3.3 XT and had this bug also with the german stock ROM.
greetz giniman

giniman said:
Is there anybody who's able to make a call with skype mobile. Everytime I'm trying to call somebody, skype is freezing and I have to softreset my device.
I've tried it with v2.5 and now I thought, that maybe v3.0 has fixed this issue, both versions with no luck though.
How can it be, that fring is working flawlessly, even the internal speaker is working, and the skype devs. are implementing new features without fixing old issues
I'm running Dutty's v3.3 XT and had this bug also with the german stock ROM.
greetz giniman
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Mine is working fine with Dutty V3.3 on my HD!!, installed in Device not SD.

ausi said:
Mine is working fine with Dutty V3.3 on my HD!!, installed in Device not SD.
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Ok I will try to install it into Device memory.
Thx for your reply!
greetz giniman
EDIT: Installation into internal memory didn't help. Skype still freezes a few seconds after the call has been established...I'm back on fring for now, which is working very well, allthough I like the Skype UI more than the fring one.

skype video
hi
do you know if / when skype will work with video as the hd has forward facing video camera for video calls.
would be nice to talk face to face with other skype users whilst away from the pc

Skype on internal speaker
i have a little Add on for skype that enables it to run on the internal speaker not the external, just like a normal phone call, im not on home pc at the mo so when i am, i will upload i onto here, all you do is run it first and leave it running while using Skype its that simple

Hang on i have it here
Here it is for your enjoyment !!!!!

Yea, Video calling would seriously be nice for Skype Mobile because not everyone lives in the very few 3G areas that exist.

darrenmc168 said:
i have a little Add on for skype that enables it to run on the internal speaker not the external, just like a normal phone call, im not on home pc at the mo so when i am, i will upload i onto here, all you do is run it first and leave it running while using Skype its that simple
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First of all thanks, Are you running it on a HD? What Skype version are you using?
Anyway of it running automatically when Skype is turned on, maybe a toggle switch?

Call recording on Desire (android)

Hi!
I have a question if its possible to record incoming and outgoing calls on the Desire.

+1 !!!!
2-way phone recording need very much!

Dear All:
001.
Anybody has any positive experience with Ultimate Voice Recorder running on the HTC Desire (in the field of calls recording)?
002.
UVR on N1 seems to have problems with recording of the second party's voice, but on the US market this can actually be an "intentional" configuration/setup of the device.
003.
If same issues are present on the Desire how likely it is to get "fix" like the 2WayRecording? I have successfully used it on my TYTN2 together with Resco Audio Recorder to alleviate second party's voice recording issues.

+1 !!!!
2-way phone recording need very much!
any solution?

Desire and Ultimate Voice Recorder 2.3.4
Hi,
an "In Call Recording function" would be nice to have. I partially was succesful with the Ultimate Voice Recorder 2.3.4 which was able to record the remote person very silent, but still recognizable.
Same problems as I had with Windows Mobile 6: I used to have a T-Mobile Ameo (HTC Advantage x7501, Code name Athena) which would only record the other side's person in speaker mode.
More or less bad luck until now, as I expected Android-devices being superiour in this matter!
Greetings.

shame this, my c905 did it out of the box flawlessly

Hy guys, I just installed on my Desire (Android 2.1) something from the market called vRecoreder.
Used it once running in the background and it recorded my conversation (the recorded volume is kind low, but you understand).
Give it a try.
ps: had to uninstall all my call voice recorders that run in the background.

cnic said:
Hy guys, I just installed on my Desire (Android 2.1) something from the market called vRecoreder.
Used it once running in the background and it recorded my conversation (the recorded volume is kind low, but you understand).
Give it a try.
ps: had to uninstall all my call voice recorders that run in the background.
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Update: it records .3gpp (hence the bad quality i think) and aparently records only incoming calls. Must test more though.

Two ways call recording is depending upon hardware construction same like wm and symbian. For example if wm, Asus and Samsung can but HTC cannot, whereas if in symbian case, Nokia can but Samsung cannot. This conclusion comes from my long experience with the aforementioned mobile phones. Have not tested with Garmin Asus android yet as it is not available in my market but believe this one can.

grandxo said:
Two ways call recording is depending upon hardware construction same like wm and symbian. For example if wm, Asus and Samsung can but HTC cannot
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I'm sorry, but I have an exception on that theory right here.
My Touch Diamond wouldn't do a two way recording whatever I tried. Until I switched to a custom (WM6.5.1) ROM, there it worked fine. So no hardware issue, it was a ROM issue.

Sandeman1976 said:
I'm sorry, but I have an exception on that theory right here.
My Touch Diamond wouldn't do a two way recording whatever I tried. Until I switched to a custom (WM6.5.1) ROM, there it worked fine. So no hardware issue, it was a ROM issue.
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I second this, as in a few Win Mobile threads discussed (no link at hand, sorry) there are registry values to be manipulated for successful two-way-voice recording. As far as I remember Microsoft and HTC stated that being NOT possible to record 2-way (without speaker mode), were hardware (design!) related facts and decisions made - until someone figured it out otherwise, by accident! (As a prior Win Mobile user: praise him!)

Not being able to record calls in Android phones is really sad.
The Palm system was able to do it from day one.
In fact the largest selling single piece of software for a smart phone ever is
Qmobilsoft's "Callrec" for palm.
So what does that say for a needed feature.
P.S. The Palm OS is now over 15 years old.

forcemaker said:
I second this, as in a few Win Mobile threads discussed (no link at hand, sorry) there are registry values to be manipulated for successful two-way-voice recording. As far as I remember Microsoft and HTC stated that being NOT possible to record 2-way (without speaker mode), were hardware (design!) related facts and decisions made - until someone figured it out otherwise, by accident! (As a prior Win Mobile user: praise him!)
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It worked on my Touch Pro2 as well, but seems as though the stock rom was on there for around 10 mins i dont know if it worked out of the box or not.

AirVoice claims to be able to do this. Unfortunately in my experience it just doesn't

Hi falks!
The situation is easyer, then you think.
The hardware and the software are ready to record 2way the phone conversations. We have only one problem: we doesn't have any software, which would do it for us.
At this time is the only solution the Ultimate Voice Recorder, which records the outgoing voice perfect, and the incoming voice very quiet.
Total Recall is the other software, which could be able to do this feature, unfortunatelly it does it only under 1.6, so on our phone - HTC Desire - doesn't works.

For the moment... maybe turn the speakerphone on... and record the whole conversation with another phone! Hahaa... lmao!

is there apps for 2 way rec
or only wish centar

Sandeman1976 said:
I'm sorry, but I have an exception on that theory right here.
My Touch Diamond wouldn't do a two way recording whatever I tried. Until I switched to a custom (WM6.5.1) ROM, there it worked fine. So no hardware issue, it was a ROM issue.
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Agreed but I had HTC Touch Cruise too and did adjust the registry value up to 5 in the Sound Categories using Memmaid software. The incoming call recording improve but very slightly indeed and is too far to compare with the clear quality from my Samsung i780 using Vito audio note in non speaker phone for both. Finally sold the HTC out and bought Asus P552w and very happy with the unit. Suggest to know and choose the right hardware from the start otherwise one has to learn how to play with registry or cooked rom and run the risk of losing warranty if does not know how to flash back the official rom.

malmosyd said:
Hi!
I have a question if its possible to record incoming and outgoing calls on the Desire.
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No one here can confirm that Desire can do this yet. Samsung Spica and Galaxy S are reported to fail to record incoming call

speech to text?(voice text)

Hi
i would like to know whether is working speech to text on htc tp 2 sprint or no?
i am trying to speak and nothing,,
thx

5oo said:
Hi
i would like to know whether is working speech to text on htc tp 2 sprint or no?
i am trying to speak and nothing,,
thx
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well you have to give a little more information then that for a definite answer. But the answer is yes AND no right now
If you are running the latest build of android for our phone with the sound working searching via speaking WILL work if you activate the mic first. This is done by making a phone call and then immediately after using the search feature and speaking. Once you do this once the mic shuts off again though. I have no doubt that till will be working in the next little while fully though now that we have sound finally.
See here --------> [Bug] Voice Search Fails Unless Mic is Already Active

yes i have latest build thanks
i have one more question i have advance task killer and when i close all apps and go again look at if all apps are closed some of them still there...

[Q] voip sip prgrm for hd mini?

hi everyone,
does anybody know a working voip sip program for htc hd mini?
i've tried without success:
adoresoftphone
SJphone
fring
and sip confg tool - which I manage to make an outgoing call of which I could hear the other side but they only heard digital noises - and the phone got frozen without the ability to make another regular call.
I also tried gizmo5 - which works great on my pc, but I cant config it to do the same on my phone.
that's it I think,
help?

Havent tried voip, but although there is no support anymore, doesnt Skype work? You can still download the WinMo version through the unofficial sites...

what is the winmo version?
MobileMini said:
Havent tried voip, but although there is no support anymore, doesnt Skype work? You can still download the WinMo version through the unofficial sites...
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skype ofcourse works, but i'm talking about using a different sip provider, with user and pass and server.
what is the winmo version?
as I wrote before I used the operating system option for internet calling - which was only partialy successful, since I managed to make the call, but my voice was distorted.

PORTGO (PortSIP for CE)
Try this, it work for my HD MINI

i tried wm6voip + sipconfig, managed to get it work (at least to call a mobile phone in france from a low speed wifi hotspot in china) but the sound was not very good.
i need to try in better conditions to have an opinion, but it is not very convenient (have to disable HTC Sense to enable/disable internet calls via SIP)
thanks i will try portgo and let you know

i just downloaded the soft here:
w w w .portsip.com/wm-softphone.htm
after installation, it executes, but big slow down (lag) and some parameters makes the phone freeze, i had to reboot!
i have to test it anyway, but another issue is, seems you have to build a new contact list, it does not take the ones from Windows Mobile...
let's see

no incoming audio
jwfoo said:
Try this, it work for my HD MINI
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I installed portgo, and only the other side can hear me, I cant hear a thing (but the dial tone when dialing the pads)
what am I doing wrong?

thehbd said:
I installed portgo, and only the other side can hear me, I cant hear a thing (but the dial tone when dialing the pads)
what am I doing wrong?
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on my hd mini is the opposite.... I can hear the other side, but they do not understand my words