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[Q] Help regarding official ICS update for T989

Ok so I'm currently on Gingerbread 2.3.6. My phone is rooted. I AM NOT USING ANY SORT OF ROM. I am on the stock T-mobile rom.
The only programs I have installed on it are Titanium backup. I have performed a backup using nandroid as well as TB.
My question to you all is: Is it safe to update to the OFFICIAL ICS when T-Mo rolls out with it on June 11th?
If so, do I have to unroot? Or can I just run the update when I hook up my phone and open KIES?
Help!

If you're running the stock ROM, you should be able to update without issue. You will almost certainly lose root, though. I'm hoping it only takes a day or so for someone to bang out a rooted, deodexed, etc. stock ICS ROM once the update is released.

JaylanPHNX said:
If you're running the stock ROM, you should be able to update without issue. You will almost certainly lose root, though. I'm hoping it only takes a day or so for someone to bang out a rooted, deodexed, etc. stock ICS ROM once the update is released.
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I hope so too man. At last, T-Mo rolls out the update.
When I plug into KIES, I have another random update but I'm not going to do install it until June 12th.

solutioni9e said:
Ok so I'm currently on Gingerbread 2.3.6. My phone is rooted. I AM NOT USING ANY SORT OF ROM. I am on the stock T-mobile rom.
The only programs I have installed on it are Titanium backup. I have performed a backup using nandroid as well as TB.
My question to you all is: Is it safe to update to the OFFICIAL ICS when T-Mo rolls out with it on June 11th?
If so, do I have to unroot? Or can I just run the update when I hook up my phone and open KIES?
Help!
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You may need to flash the stock recovery via odin if you have CWM installed to update to ics

solutioni9e said:
I hope so too man. At last, T-Mo rolls out the update.
When I plug into KIES, I have another random update but I'm not going to do install it until June 12th.
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Install that lastest update b4 u update to ics. The update b4 ics is to prevent your phone from bricking when going thru the update process to ics.

MrKnitty said:
Install that lastest update b4 u update to ics. The update b4 ics is to prevent your phone from bricking when going thru the update process to ics.
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Ok but will I need to revert back to anything? Like i said in my original post, I havent loaded any custom ROMS. I've only rooted the phone via ODIN.

It is okay to be rooted, but what Mr Knitty is asking is are you on the UVLDE build of gingerbread or the KL1? You need to be on the newer, updated UVLDE.

Rod3 said:
It is okay to be rooted, but what Mr Knitty is asking is are you on the UVLDE build of gingerbread or the KL1? You need to be on the newer, updated UVLDE.
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Ok I just checked my phone settings , I am on:
Gingerbread.UVKL1
and the kernal version is 2.6.35.11
and the baseband version is:
t989UVKL1
So what can I do now?

solutioni9e said:
Ok I just checked my phone settings , I am on:
Gingerbread.UVKL1
and the kernal version is 2.6.35.11
and the baseband version is:
t989UVKL1
So what can I do now?
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Install kies on the pc, plug your phone in, and accept the update. Im not positive, but i think you need to be on stock recovery too.
Sent from my Hercules on CM9

what exactly happens when you lose root? is it JUST that apps like titaniumbackup won't function as they won't have root access?

virjog said:
what exactly happens when you lose root? is it JUST that apps like titaniumbackup won't function as they won't have root access?
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Yes. You will lose root access
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grawkiller73 said:
Install kies on the pc, plug your phone in, and accept the update. Im not positive, but i think you need to be on stock recovery too.
Sent from my Hercules on CM9
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Alright , I'll give it a go once I get home.

solutioni9e said:
Ok but will I need to revert back to anything? Like i said in my original post, I havent loaded any custom ROMS. I've only rooted the phone via ODIN.
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I tried connecting my phone to Kies after rooting and it says that a firmware update isn't supported on my device. In order for me to do anything in that regard, I'd have to unroot and then upgrade. If I were you, I'd just wait until Tmo pushes out the ICS update and when someone puts the rooted version out just install it. It will save you the trouble of having to unroot and root again just to get what your phone is already capable of getting via root.

Is there a thread for upgrading from a modded rom, like Juggernaut? Searched, but then again my eyes aren't the greatest. If I need the UVLDE update, how would I go about not bricking during such process? Sorry to intrude, just thought this was the closest thread to ask.
TerrorCandii™ Gaming uses
Juggernaut5.0/Streamline kernel

TerrorCandii said:
Is there a thread for upgrading from a modded rom, like Juggernaut? Searched, but then again my eyes aren't the greatest. If I need the UVLDE update, how would I go about not bricking during such process? Sorry to intrude, just thought this was the closest thread to ask.
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Theres a thread dedicated specifically to flashing the update. That thread covers every possible scenario. Look for the words flash, UVLDE, how to, and update in the titile. Its plain as day.

I think I got answer on my question in here.....

I didn't have to change back to stock recovery to update or unroot.
If on stock just flash the root file again through Odin and your good to go.
If your on a custom GB ROM. Just flash through Odin instead of Kies. Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1682955
Tmobile T989UVLDE
If coming from a leaked custom ICS ROM. I would use the super wipe and cache wipe. Then flash through Odin.
Of course back up everything with your preferred method.
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Wait, so this flashes updated stock, but updated? I would lose my current rom setup?
*EDIT*-Nevermind, found what I was looking for. Just going to go back to stock, and wait it out.
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dont worry
My phone its rooted just stock just to be able to use good apps like titanium addfree etc etc and when i update laat week did not gave me a problem so im thinking if u have stock rom just rooted i dont see a problem plus everyone here at xda wont let u down...trust me

What I would do, is just wait like 2 or 3 more days so someone can come out with a completely stock ICS. That way you don't have to worry about losing root
Sent from my 4.5 inch Galaxy

Upgrade to Odin's FF18

Pardon my ignorance but I'm still on stock rooted GB from sfhub original cwm flash. I have yet to take the plunge to ics because I don't want to flash to el26 to go to ics and all of this to prevent bricking my phone.* I thought I read once the official kernal is released this bug will not exist and this will not be necessary. I was just waiting for the official release to upgrade. It appears now that has / will be released today.
I have never used odin before but this looks like I don't have to worry about bricking my phone with it correct? I see that sfhub has a one click odin of FF18 with root. If I just want to upgrade I can just use the no data? If I want to start clean I guess I should factory reset then flash full data.?
My phone drives me insane with the phantom SMS bug that I still have.* Sometimes I have to reboot to find that I'm missing txt messages amd then the battery level just plunges. I also have a hard time getting a GPS lock. I'm hoping this update helps.
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dbldown768 said:
Pardon my ignorance but I'm still on stock rooted GB from sfhub original cwm flash. I have yet to take the plunge to ics because I don't want to flash to el26 to go to ics and all of this to prevent bricking my phone.* I thought I read once the official kernal is released this bug will not exist and this will not be necessary. I was just waiting for the official release to upgrade. It appears now that has / will be released today.
I have never used odin before but this looks like I don't have to worry about bricking my phone with it correct? I see that sfhub has a one click odin of FF18 with root. If I just want to upgrade I can just use the no data? If I want to start clean I guess I should factory reset then flash full data.?
My phone drives me insane with the phantom SMS bug that I still have.* Sometimes I have to reboot to find that I'm missing txt messages amd then the battery level just plunges. I also have a hard time getting a GPS lock. I'm hoping this update helps.
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That is correct you can use the one-click to update and it's known to be safe. just don't unplug the cable until the phone reboots. also have you thought about upgrading your modem? there are flashable zips. I'm running the FF18 modem and its working better than the stock EL29 modem. I wanted to wait for the upgrade, but i went ahead and flashed an ICS rom yesterday.

Now that the source is released does this mean the emmc bug is to be removed and it will be safer to flash more ics / asop roms?
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dbldown768 said:
Now that the source is released does this mean the emmc bug is to be removed and it will be safer to flash more ics / asop roms?
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It appears that way. I know reading yesterday that they are working on it. With the source code they can fix/modify the eMMC issue.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
Looks like they fixed it. but it can only be used for TW based roms

g_ding84 said:
That is correct you can use the one-click to update and it's known to be safe. just don't unplug the cable until the phone reboots. also have you thought about upgrading your modem? there are flashable zips. I'm running the FF18 modem and its working better than the stock EL29 modem. I wanted to wait for the upgrade, but i went ahead and flashed an ICS rom yesterday.
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I can just odin over my EL29 root and have it update to ICS FF18? Just want to be sure before I do it.

fogame said:
I can just odin over my EL29 root and have it update to ICS FF18? Just want to be sure before I do it.
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You can ODIN FF18 over anything on the phone. The No Data package will be just like the OTA except for root. But if you can stand to back some stuff up you will have a lot less trouble with a full wipe. OTA users themselves experience a minimum of a hassle and a maximum of hair pulling and doing no data will be the same. Easiest problem is needing to clear data for swype to get that to work but random reboots can be another issue if taking the OTA or doing a No Data odin from there to here.

RainMotorsports said:
You can ODIN FF18 over anything on the phone. The No Data package will be just like the OTA except for root. But if you can stand to back some stuff up you will have a lot less trouble with a full wipe. OTA users themselves experience a minimum of a hassle and a maximum of hair pulling and doing no data will be the same. Easiest problem is needing to clear data for swype to get that to work but random reboots can be another issue if taking the OTA or doing a No Data odin from there to here.
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Okay well I'm coming from calkulins 3.0 e4gt rom and debating if i want to go to ICS or wait it out. Not entirely sure at this point. Thought about it but I don't know. I'm running rogue kernel with FF18 modem. Its been okay battery sucks. What do you suggest about going to ICS?

Quick question about unrooting.

Hi,
I tried searching but couldn't find a definitive answers since there are so many topics. I have a T989.
Right now I'm rooted with CWM Recovery and STOCK version 2.3.6 of Android. Been that way for months. I think it's about time to upgrade to 4.0.4. Now my question is...do I have to put stock recovery back on the phone in order to update? Kies alerted me there's a firmware update.
If I do have to restore to stock recovery...what is the process of doing this?
If I don't have to restore to stock recovery...will anything happen if I upgrade to 4.0.4 while being rooted?
Do you recommend wiping the device before upgrading?
Thank you.

Why not just odin or flash a rooted 4.0.4?
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It is not required to unroot to upgrade your software. If you want to utilize rooted stock you can upgrade it using the stock firmware and pushing it through odin. Kies is unstable and I've encountered many that kies causes more problems then assistance. In reality is up to you. My understanding is that you do need to be completely stock for kies to complete the update. I prefer odin (7mins compared to almost an hour with kies), and no you don't have to wipe to do it through odin, however is going to wipe it for you...with the exception on any media you have stored on internal.
I will warn you, stock ics is very very wonky and often lags something wicked. Just be prepared...
sent from my t989 full of CM goodness and a touch of venom from the darkside!!!

EnigmaticGeek said:
It is not required to unroot to upgrade your software. If you want to utilize rooted stock you can upgrade it using the stock firmware and pushing it through odin. Kies is unstable and I've encountered many that kies causes more problems then assistance. In reality is up to you. My understanding is that you do need to be completely stock for kies to complete the update. I prefer odin (7mins compared to almost an hour with kies), and no you don't have to wipe to do it through odin, however is going to wipe it for you...with the exception on any media you have stored on internal.
I will warn you, stock ics is very very wonky and often lags something wicked. Just be prepared...
sent from my t989 full of CM goodness and a touch of venom from the darkside!!!
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I don't want to upgrade really...but I'm having too many issues. My phone keeps rebooting itself or will freeze. My WiFi calling is acting up...telling me to update my 911 address when it is already there, and have already re-updated it. When making a phone call, or changing brightness using the widget, it will hang for like 30 seconds before the call goes through...etc.
I feel like the ICS update will resolve some of those issues.

Personally I would update via Kies to the newest official release (4.0.4 ICS I think) I also think if you update via Kies you will have to re-root the phone unless you don't want to do that and just run stock ICS. There usually is a BIG difference in positive directions when they release official firmware. What could it hurt? Having to re-root which only takes 5 minutes max?

Pee Wee Herman said:
Personally I would update via Kies to the newest official release (4.0.4 ICS I think) I also think if you update via Kies you will have to re-root the phone unless you don't want to do that and just run stock ICS. There usually is a BIG difference in positive directions when they release official firmware. What could it hurt? Having to re-root which only takes 5 minutes max?
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Why not odin sounds a lot easier to just odin it.
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Teo032 said:
Why not odin sounds a lot easier to just odin it.
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It seems easier via odin, I just never have really messed with odin other than rooting.

Will updating to ICS fix the issues I'm having? lol

Yes in most cases. Gb on this device was terrible in my experience. Use odin...i flash back to stock ever more and then to tinker inside the device as i learn to mod roms. Fishing through odin is a breeze and takes up less system resources from your comp...and its FASTER! but that's just my opinion
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Thanks.
Also, do I have to update any radio and Kernel? or just the firmware?

nuggstein said:
Thanks.
Also, do I have to update any radio and Kernel? or just the firmware?
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If you are going back to stock and fishing just the stock tar through odin...it will do it all for you
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Thanks for the help everyone. Flashed 4.0.4 via Odin, did a wipe, and everything is working great!!

Looking for a stock rooted LJ7 ROM that can be flashed through CWM.

I'm looking for a stock LJ7 ROM that's Rooted/DeOdex with updates notification disabled that can be flashed through CWM. Could someone please post a link. I've gone through the ROM's on the development boards, but can't seem to find one.

Is this what you are looking for?
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That may or may not be what I'm looking for. Some of the posts on Page 4 of that thread said they lost root after flashing. I'm looking for something that I can flash that's prerooted. By page 12 of the thread, people are still complaining that they can't get back root.

Lawyerman said:
That may or may not be what I'm looking for. Some of the posts on Page 4 of that thread said they lost root after flashing. I'm looking for something that I can flash that's prerooted. By page 12 of the thread, people are still complaining that they can't get back root.
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The first leak put up on that thread (ver. LI7 back in Sept.) was not pre-rooted. It was very simple to re-root by just flashing another zip during install. But freeza quickly posted a pre-rooted version and all subsequent versions that have been posted are pre-rooted. If you flash the LJ7 rom and the LJ7 AIO, you'll have the current ROM (including kernel) and modem that are available OTA. Some have reported problems with the alternate kernel, so you might not want to flash that. I tried the alternate kernel and didn't like it--but reverting to the stock kernel was easy to do by just reflashing the ROM without wiping anything.
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Lawyerman said:
That may or may not be what I'm looking for. Some of the posts on Page 4 of that thread said they lost root after flashing. I'm looking for something that I can flash that's prerooted. By page 12 of the thread, people are still complaining that they can't get back root.
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That thread has had a long history as it started with the first JB leak (LIF). There were some problems with that. There were also some kernel customization made along the way.
The final LJ7 version is the same as the OTA that was released.

Neither of these seem to be what I'm looking for. I'm concerned with the leak thread that it's not the actual 100% final version.
I'm already rooted and stock but something happened that's causing my phone to lock up and reboot shortly after booting up and loading everything. I just want to do a full wipe and install 100% stock LJ7 final rom (keeping root).

s1dest3pnate said:
Neither of these seem to be what I'm looking for. I'm concerned with the leak thread that it's not the actual 100% final version.
I'm already rooted and stock but something happened that's causing my phone to lock up and reboot shortly after booting up and loading everything. I just want to do a full wipe and install 100% stock LJ7 final rom (keeping root).
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It is final software. It started out with leaks but eventually got to final.

[Q] Tmobile update on stock rooted rom

Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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When it is rooted even if you try to use the OTA update it won't let you, while rooted, you could alternatively flash the update via ODIN w/ root support. Or try some of the sweet ROMs available , the reason I switched to a custom ROM because I was going to have to erase my phone anyway if I wanted to update, so I thought why not just try a custom ROM?
I use LiquidSmoothRC7, but if you want a more stock feel with touchwiz you can try Wicked, Wicked stays true to the "official stock ROMs" and just adds roots and tweaks the ROM to make it as stable as possible

If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section

cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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OR you could listen to this dude

cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA

cobraboy85 said:
go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
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I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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Towle said:
Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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Some of those 10 partitions that are getting rewritten are... for one, your recovery... so that makes 9 actually...
My point is, and I'm not trying to be argumentative in any way, merely objective, is that unless it is reformatting the ext4 partition to new file structure (for example) there should be no need to do this. I suppose I would ask somebody to define in depth "rewritten" and how exactly this is being done and why. Every single update we have had since the release of this device I have not once updated my own device with odin merely to put it back to stock. And I have run into zero issues. Seems like a waste of time to me unless there is something highly critical being restructured entirely. In the end, its all the same disk, and disk size for any given partition.
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neim81094 said:
I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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If you are on LH2, with that same baseband, I would go ahead and update your baseband via docs packaged update in his thread, and just reboot, then move on to the jelly bean updates. Do a factory reset through recovery before you flash the JB ROM tho since you are coming from a completely different version of android.

zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.

Just stating my experience, I was rooted stock ics and ran the ota update. I was able to update, keep root and ran stock jelly bean without any problems at all.
Now I am running frosty jelly and still no problems at all. I am not saying for you to do it (dont want anyone blaming me) just stating that it can be done. Do whats most comfortable for you.
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jcbofkc said:
If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice

cobraboy85 said:
Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.

jcbofkc said:
You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
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Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin

cobraboy85 said:
Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
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If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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neim81094 said:
If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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Sorry, I will clarify, I am curious to know why Odin is such a critical issue. I know how it works as far as it being a flashing tool

I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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neim81094 said:
I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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The file used to flash with Odin is much larger because it is a complete rom. The OTA is a patch that attempts to patch and modify existing files.

I basically said that on the last post not the one you quoted
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Finally got the time to Odin Route66 Jelly bean.
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Everything good?