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Give me a good reason to put the new SIM card in

Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?

Right now, there is no reason. When the wifi calling becomes available it will require the new Sim.
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do you have some sort of sentimental connection to that sim? why not just use the new one to make sure yoour up to date?

Where did you guys find the new sim card? Is it in the plastic wrapper with the manual/user guide? I don't see it in the box and I haven't opened up the plastic wrapping the manual/user guide is wrapped in. Fyi I did buy my phone from a T-Mobile.
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Lucas155 said:
Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?
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I replaced my five yr old sim card with it because my old one seemingly caused some bad 3g data issues. I found this out by swapping sim cards with a friend who just signed with T-Mobile and an SGS2. I replaced my old one with the one that came with the SGS2 and now I'm not only seeing improved 3g speeds but also better call reception.
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Quick question, my sim is about 3 months old. Will it work with wifi calling when it is released or is the SIM in the box even more "updated" than a 3 month old sim?

mikea3000 said:
Quick question, my sim is about 3 months old. Will it work with wifi calling when it is released or is the SIM in the box even more "updated" than a 3 month old sim?
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No, the GS2 and Amaze 4G are the first phones to shop with the new sim cards.
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You need new Sim in order to get ota updates.
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You need new Sim in order to get ota updates.
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Are you sure about this? where Did you get this information? sounds a bit unrealistic that ota. Uupdates are tied to the sim in the box.

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Are you sure about this? where Did you get this information? sounds a bit unrealistic that ota. Uupdates are tied to the sim in the box.
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They aren't. They are tied to IMEI's. Two things you really need it for; 1. If you want to use WiFi calling after the maintenance update in a couple weeks, you will absolutely have to have this SIM card. No questions. It will not work. 2. After time, the older SIM cards will fail. This could lead to data access, call drop, sms sending/receiving and signal issues. If you have one now to activate, saves you a call and a trip to the local store for a replacement.

In the tmobile system we have 2 classifications of Sims. 2g (your dash) and 3g (hspa+).. make your conclusions
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Lucas155 said:
Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?
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Actually the new Sim is a completely new revision designed for the high speed 4g network. It also has the gold contacts in a different design which is part of it look at old and new Sims if you don't believe me. I forgot the name of the new Sim but its what was taught and explained for tmobile techs (tier 2 and up support). Also most stores do not have this Sim revision in yet so use the one supplied in your box. 90% of most tmobile employees have no idea about the new Sim and only guess when asked.
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In the tmobile system we have 2 classifications of Sims. 2g (your dash) and 3g (hspa+).. make your conclusions
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Your dash? The dash also later came in a 3g version. Also hspa+ is our 4g version and hspa is 3g.
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that 90% is a little exxagerrated.. we have trainings on the subject
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Actually the new Sim is a completely new revision designed for the high speed 4g network. It also has the gold contacts in a different design which is part of it look at old and new Sims if you don't believe me. I forgot the name of the new Sim but its what was taught and explained for tmobile techs (tier 2 support). Also most stores do not have this Sim revision in yet so use the one supplied in your box. 90% of most tmobile employees have no idea about the new Sim and only guess when asked.
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Not trying to be rude but your part of the 90% I was referring to.
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Yes but the similar supplied by the company during that time was our 2g sim.. the 3g sim didn't come till ppst-g1 era.. and still inventory of Sims were mixed
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Your dash? The dash also later came in a 3g version.
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How do you come to that conclusion.. the size and shape of the gold has changed multiple times over the last few years so your point is invalid.. TECHNICALLY the only difference with new Sims for our device and amaze is for the new WIFI calling network. As of Nov 12 wifi calling will not work on our phones with older sim cards
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Yes but those were different revisions and also had a different contact design. Please I am not arguing with you but I am correct on this matter.
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Lol OK lets not argue
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Yes but those were different revisions and also had a different contact design. Please I am not arguing with you but I am correct on this matter.
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How do you come to that conclusion.. the size and shape of the gold has changed multiple times over the last few years so your point is invalid.. TECHNICALLY the only difference with new Sims for our device and amaze is for the new WIFI calling network. As of Nov 12 wifi calling will not work on our phones with older sim cards
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I don't know what idiot told you that is all it was designed for and I doubt that was sent from us at corporate. What's your name T-Mobile associate? You can pm me and I will look it up tommorrow to show you what you should have learned correctly. Also per tmobile policy which you signed when hired you need to remove the tmobile associate title on your xda account credentials if you are a tmobile employee.
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Anyone here using Fido LTE?

I can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for. In order to get LTE am I required to have a LTE sim card? Or the proper APN should work?
Fido doesnt have micro sim lte cards. Only standard size which means I need to cut to fit. Furthermore, I get no where calling them. They can't answer one question I have.
Thanks !
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g2tegg said:
I can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for. In order to get LTE am I required to have a LTE sim card? Or the proper APN should work?
Fido doesnt have micro sim lte cards. Only standard size which means I need to cut to fit. Furthermore, I get no where calling them. They can't answer one question I have.
Thanks !
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You do need an lte sim card.
Fido have micro/nano LTE sim card. http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/SmartCard
You might also need an lte data plan, and the right APN settings.

tonymtl said:
You do need an lte sim card.
Fido have micro/nano LTE sim card. http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/SmartCard
You might also need an lte data plan, and the right APN settings.
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I finally did get a regular size LTE card... they are RARE but im using a galaxy note and im pulling about 23-25MB/s but It keeps bouncing between that and 4G so I know its in the baby stages but yeah the LTE stuff is all equipment base. If the LTE settings that auto come up doesnt work just delete it and make your own it ltemobile.apn and it should work. I had to do it with mines.

You need both apn set up and the lte sim card. I think a micro lte sim released with iphone 5 launch so you can get that, otherwise, you can buy a regular sim and cut it to fit the micro sim slot.
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Does Fido have lte? Here in vancouver it hasn't been launched yet
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hahmjt said:
You need both apn set up and the lte sim card. I think a micro lte sim released with iphone 5 launch so you can get that, otherwise, you can buy a regular sim and cut it to fit the micro sim slot.
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I'm pretty sure the iPhone 5 uses a even smaller sim.
Thanks all for the help. Lte isn't here where I currently live but it is where I work. And I can't see changing my account would make a difference but maybe its worth a shot
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From fido: Can I use my existing Data add-on for LTE?
Yes, all our existing voice and data plan as well as data add-ons are LTE ready and most of our older data add-on are also LTE ready! This means the only requirements to be able to access LTE are a Fido LTE SIM card, a LTE device and to be within the Fido LTE network.

LTE in Toronto is fully operational, and it works well. They only have standard sizes, like you said and require cut. I'm getting 30-50 mbps down, 10-20 mbps up.

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Does Fido have lte? Here in vancouver it hasn't been launched yet
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It has been launched in Vancouver check out the Fido website
http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/CoverageSupport

Are you sure it says 4g hspa+ and edge no mention of lte
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Vancouver and surroundinh area had lte since the launch date. Been using it for a while...
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g2tegg said:
I'm pretty sure the iPhone 5 uses a even smaller sim.
Thanks all for the help. Lte isn't here where I currently live but it is where I work. And I can't see changing my account would make a difference but maybe its worth a shot
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Yeah iphone 5 uses nano sim. Smaller than micro.

I'm also pretty certain that the towers where Rogers has deployed LTE, Fido users will associate to. All Fido phones are connected to Rogers towers, seeing as Rogers owns Fido.
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I know I have been on rogers lte since day 1 when it sucked lol but I have a lot of friends and family on Fido that are using the s3 without lte. Unless they just launched it with the iPhone 5 I'm sure they don't have it
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You need the lte sim to use lte on fido with s3, i have s3 on fido with lte since the day 1.
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I know I have been on rogers lte since day 1 when it sucked lol but I have a lot of friends and family on Fido that are using the s3 without lte. Unless they just launched it with the iPhone 5 I'm sure they don't have it
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Yes They do now. it's been implemented in august. Just go to a fido retailer that has sim cards make sure it says lte, have them cut to fit (some of them have the sim cutter) as they only have standard size and nano. Pop it in Your unlocked sgs3. go in settings>more settings> mobile networks>access point names and select fido lte.
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No lte
Here's the thing: the fido Site says lte is 2100/2600, but the S3 uses 1700/700 for lte. If fido uses Rogers towers, would it not make sense that they use the networks as well?
When I go to Kanata I had lte on my iphone 5, and now when I bomb around there I'm not getting lte on my s3. I have an lte apn set up the way fido and everyone else has said to, but it's just not coming thru...
Can anyone give me any insight?

Just wanted to link to this post I made in the Fido forums for anyone having trouble getting LTE setup!
http://forums.fido.ca/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Smartphones/thread-id/7814

Imei tracking

My question is simply, can att track my phones Imei even if I don't give it to them? Like, say I put a different SIM card in my phone. Would att know it was my phone being used with that SIM?
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family682guy said:
My question is simply, can att track my phones Imei even if I don't give it to them? Like, say I put a different SIM card in my phone. Would att know it was my phone being used with that SIM?
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I am pretty sure the imei is the phone i.d. of itself, and putting a sim card into it....ATT will still be able to track. What are you trying to do?
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Then why do they always ask for the Imei of the phone when you set it up? I'm just curious as to if they can look up a phones imei just by it being on the network.. because I had a blackberry and then an inspire and when I put my SIM into the inspire, I realised I had no data. I called att and the lady told me it was because they used different data plans and then promptly asked for my imei. A few minutes later I had data on my inspire but I slapped the same SIM into another phone and the data worked just fine without att needing the phones imei.. curious.
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Then why do they always ask for the Imei of the phone when you set it up? I'm just curious as to if they can look up a phones imei just by it being on the network.. because I had a blackberry and then an inspire and when I put my SIM into the inspire, I realised I had no data. I called att and the lady told me it was because they used different data plans and then promptly asked for my imei. A few minutes later I had data on my inspire but I slapped the same SIM into another phone and the data worked just fine without att needing the phones imei.. curious.
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There are different data plans for different types of smartphones. When I worked in phones iphone data, blackberry data, and Android data were all different, but iPhone data would work with other iphones and so forth.
They can track it on their network and block it. Just happened to a guy who bought one from CList and got hosed.

Yes, they can track the IMEI just by putting your sim card in and connecting to the network.
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There are different data plans for different types of smartphones. When I worked in phones iphone data, blackberry data, and Android data were all different, but iPhone data would work with other iphones and so forth.
They can track it on their network and block it. Just happened to a guy who bought one from CList and got hosed.
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But I placed the SIM from the inspire into an iPhone 3g I was working on and it was pulling data?
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family682guy said:
But I placed the SIM from the inspire into an iPhone 3g I was working on and it was pulling data?
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It isn't supposed to, maybe it has changed. It has been a little over a year since I worked with them. Either way, they can track their phones imeis.

Alright, well thank you to all who answered. I appreciate yalls help.
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BlackBerry phones use a data plan called BIS. Which is needed for them to use cell data.
Androids and iPhones use regular data. You can switch sims between them if they're the same sims.
Now, withe different phones running on different networks, I believe you have to switch sims. Like if you have an LTE phone you can't use it on a UMTS phone.
And yes, your IMEI gets tracked whenever you use data.
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IMEI gets tracked even when your phone connects to network, not just when you make calls or use data... its like a unique identifier of your phone over the network.

How to activate LTE

How can i activate my SGS3 i already have lte sim in it and it show only hs+ signal.
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d1ulove said:
How can i activate my SGS3 i already have lte sim in it and it show only hs+ signal.
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What ROM?
LTE Area?

Living in an LTE coverage area is always a plus.
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You have to have the right apn for it. Some carriers require enabling it on the account level
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You have to have the right apn for it. Some carriers require enabling it on the account level
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It has to be feature enabled at activation. For example, I am coming from a GS2. I cut my GS2 sim to fit the GS3. Everything worked perfectly except for LTE. I had to call and have the phone activated as an LTE enabled phone to get it working. I am on AT&T BTW.

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It has to be feature enabled at activation. For example, I am coming from a GS2. I cut my GS2 sim to fit the GS3. Everything worked perfectly except for LTE. I had to call and have the phone activated as an LTE enabled phone to get it working. I am on AT&T BTW.
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I move from iphone 4 to GS3 so my sim card is ok i'm on a LTE area but and when i check my account they already add and LTE PROVISON.

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I move from iphone 4 to GS3 so my sim card is ok i'm on a LTE area but and when i check my account they already add and LTE PROVISON.
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I was also told that they have 'newer' sim cards that 'work better' with LTE as well. I was having issues with my SIM that came in my iPhone 4S, and when I moved to the SGS3 LTE was spotty. They gave me a new SIM at the AT&T store and it fixed all my issues. Not sure why it helps anything as a SIM should be a SIM should be a SIM, but apparently it does.

May be thats why coz my sim was activated at hspa for iphone need to activate in LTE mode i think
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Are you completely sure your SIM is lte capable?
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Had a look at this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1947376
What does your provider say when u call?

You have to have the newest modem for the phone to... lk3 for att. Or you will just lose service cause its just Keeps trying to register. I switched from lh9 to lk3 and it elk works awesome just got lte in my town.
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Thanks for the my LTE is up and running at speed of 25mbps DL and 19mbps UL
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[Q] Quick questions (tmo gs3 to att prepaid)

Ok guys heres the deal. Am currently on tmobile contract plan, planning on canceling it soon. Want to go with at&t prepaid data plan. What do i need and what do i need to do to make my tmo gs3 to work with att 3g/4g network? Data and mms along with txt and all. Im pretty sure its more than just cut the sim and slip it in. Or is it? Im a complete noob so be gentle lol. Thanks in advance.
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1slow4G said:
Ok guys heres the deal. Am currently on tmobile contract plan, planning on canceling it soon. Want to go with at&t prepaid data plan. What do i need and what do i need to do to make my tmo gs3 to work with att 3g/4g network? Data and mms along with txt and all. Im pretty sure its more than just cut the sim and slip it in. Or is it? Im a complete noob so be gentle lol. Thanks in advance.
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It actually is pretty simple, but you have to have TMobile give you the unlock codes to your phone. Basically once you have the ATT Sim, insert it and your phone should prompt you to enter a carrier unlock code. This is where you enter said code once obtained from TMobile.
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RPelham said:
It actually is pretty simple, but you have to have TMobile give you the unlock codes to your phone. Basically once you have the ATT Sim, insert it and your phone should prompt you to enter a carrier unlock code. This is where you enter said code once obtained from TMobile.
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Awesome. Thanks! So do i just ask for the code or lie my way around and get it? Also, any setting i need to adjust to recieve data and mms? Ive read some have had issues not sure if this applies with the tmo code tho

Bump..
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You may need to set your APNs if you make the switch and lose data/signal. Just Google ATT APN settings and it will explain what you need to set. (Prepaid plans might have different APNs so make sure you find the right one for your plan)
As far as obtaining the unlock codes from TMobile, you could try saying your leaving the country on extended vacation, that may help, but if your still in contract and they refuse you there's nothing you can do.. other than call back and get a different rep.
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Thanks man^^
I spoke with a tmobile rep and they are going to email me the unlock codes within "72hrs" ill be waiting. So after that is done i will proceed with the rest of the process with an att sim.
Yes i will Google the apns once i get the rest sorted out. Looks like its not that hard after all. The most hassle is going to be getting a sim activated since theres no store near me gonna have to order one online
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You can always go with StraightTalk. Their plans are cheaper than att prepay and have semi unlimited data.(something att prepay doesnt). And they have tmobile compatible SIM cards. Which doesn't required unlocking. If you receive better service from att then get the att compatible SIM. Will require unlocking for that though
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Failed to mention something that I just remembered about TMobile s3s....
LTE will not work. You will only get 3G/H+...
I do not own a TMobile device, this is just from research I've done. I don't know if there is a work around.
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You can always go with StraightTalk. Their plans are cheaper than att prepay and have semi unlimited data.(something att prepay doesnt). And they have tmobile compatible SIM cards. Which doesn't required unlocking. If you receive better service from att then get the att compatible SIM. Will require unlocking for that though
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Ive heard about that aswell, going to look into that. I need att service. Tmobile doesnt work where i work. At&t does. So, simple mobile for at&t get same reception as an regular at&t service?
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Failed to mention something that I just remembered about TMobile s3s....
LTE will not work. You will only get 3G/H+...
I do not own a TMobile device, this is just from research I've done. I don't know if there is a work around.
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Yes sir, i read that too, not really too worried about it, 3g speed is enough for what i need it for, plus 90% of the time i have wifi available.
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Actually you might wanna check because although T-Mobile is reframing their MHz but only certain areas so far
So sad to inform you that you would most likely to get edge instead
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I'd go with Straight Talk also. I just switched my girlfriend over to it because she was paying over $100 per month for a decent service. She doesn't get LTE (but her phone doesnt support it anyway) but for $45 unlimited data, text, calls, its worth it. And it's on the AT&T network.

Well i already had ordered the prepaid micro sim card for at&t. That's what im waiting on right now, after that i will go to the next step.
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Got an email with the code today. Now am waiting for the micro sim. Should recieve it on Tuesday
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1slow4G said:
Got an email with the code today. Now am waiting for the micro sim. Should recieve it on Tuesday
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Let us know if everything works out! =)

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Let us know if everything works out! =)
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Will do man will do..
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Shoot... Im thinking of just going into walmart and getting the straightalk for at&t micro sim.. $45 for unlimited everthing compared to $65 @ att. Even if its throttled which i assume both are @ 2gb a month
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Well i ordered the at&t straightalk starter kit aswell. Will try that one first since it comes with airtime already included. They are wiping out att straightalk sims. Ordered mine while supplies lasts lol.
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1slow4G said:
Well i ordered the at&t straightalk starter kit aswell. Will try that one first since it comes with airtime already included. They are wiping out att straightalk sims. Ordered mine while supplies lasts lol.
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I got straight talk on my att s3 I get up to 7 mbs down load speed but my s3 is from att if you have a tmobile one and ordered a att sim card you will get edge but other then that the company is great I did get my Internet shut off one time for using 3 gbs of data only came back on when I paid my bill
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I got straight talk on my att s3 I get up to 7 mbs down load speed but my s3 is from att if you have a tmobile one and ordered a att sim card you will get edge speeds which are really slow but other then that the company is great I did get my Internet shut off one time for using 3 gbs of data only came back on when I paid my bill
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I got straight talk on my att s3 I get up to 7 mbs down load speed but my s3 is from att if you have a tmobile one and ordered a att sim card you will get edge but other then that the company is great I did get my Internet shut off one time for using 3 gbs of data only came back on when I paid my bill
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Aww bummer only edge speed? I have a tmo gs3. That sucks if thats the case. Was looking to get 3g the least
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Aww bummer only edge speed? I have a tmo gs3. That sucks if thats the case. Was looking to get 3g the least
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Yeah you won't get 3g my boyfriend uses his tmobile on straight talk it's super slow. I thought there was a choice of picking a tmobile sim card for straight why didn't you do that?
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