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[Q] Few questions about ARC S roms, rooting and in general

First of all, im new on these forums, so hello everyone
I have experience rooting, custom rom'ing and such from my Samsung Spica i5700, but dealing with ARC S roms and unlocking seems to be a whole different world!
So, the .62 update hit me, and ofcourse without reading XDA, I updated my -only- rooted phone. Now I have the bloatware back and cannot root, blasphemy!
So I thought about unlocking the bootloader, there comes the first question
- Does the automatic root kit (DoomLords thread, v4 by now) work with .62 that has had i'ts bootloader unlocked (he mentioned it DOES NOT work with stock .62)? If it does not, which tutorial or tool should I use? Ive seen Flashtool being used, and something about flashing whole new stock roms?
Now also, I am a big fan of custom roms - but the default rom of ARC S has some great things I've noticed and use alot, so I would love to keep those. As I was looking into Arconium 6.1 rom (nearly perfect it says!), I would love to know if it has the following things still available
- Sim Toolkit, known also as STK. Because in my country we have Mobile ID cards integrated into SIM cards, so basically I can use my phone to prove my identity and give digital signatures wherever I go. This is a must have for me.
- The phone has Sony Ericsson menu under Settings. Under there, I can connect my phone to my PC over WiFI (if it has PC companion installed) - I love this feature as I dont have to connect the cable, or mess about with slow Bluetooth speeds. Does the Arconium have this capability?
The stock rom is good enough, atleast for the moment, but I love getting more out of my device. Although if it means losing those two features, I will probably stay with stock rom, and just try to root it, and remove all the bloatware.
I have been reading the forums, but lot of different threads, and they all tend to say some different things. Confusing to say the least! Also tried searching the Arconium thread about SimToolkit, only had some questions about version 3. So again, no info there.
If any of you could give me any insight into these matters, would be very lovely. Would save alot of time by not installing Roms and such that do not even suit the needs.
Once again, thank you in front for all the help
Best wishes,
Erki

painkillah said:
So I thought about unlocking the bootloader, there comes the first question
- Does the automatic root kit (DoomLords thread, v4 by now) work with .62 that has had i'ts bootloader unlocked (he mentioned it DOES NOT work with stock .62)? If it does not, which tutorial or tool should I use? Ive seen Flashtool being used, and something about flashing whole new stock roms?
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No, it only works until .62 firmware (e.g .42 & .58 firmware).
Search a little about how to root .62 firmware.
Or you could downgrade to .42 firmware using Flashtool and root.
painkillah said:
Now also, I am a big fan of custom roms - but the default rom of ARC S has some great things I've noticed and use alot, so I would love to keep those. As I was looking into Arconium 6.1 rom (nearly perfect it says!), I would love to know if it has the following things still available
- Sim Toolkit, known also as STK. Because in my country we have Mobile ID cards integrated into SIM cards, so basically I can use my phone to prove my identity and give digital signatures wherever I go. This is a must have for me.
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Yes, Sim Toolkit is integrated.
painkillah said:
The phone has Sony Ericsson menu under Settings. Under there, I can connect my phone to my PC over WiFI (if it has PC companion installed) - I love this feature as I dont have to connect the cable, or mess about with slow Bluetooth speeds. Does the Arconium have this capability?
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Afaik, it has the same Connectivity settings in SE settings as stock ROM.
painkillah said:
The stock rom is good enough, atleast for the moment, but I love getting more out of my device. Although if it means losing those two features, I will probably stay with stock rom, and just try to root it, and remove all the bloatware.
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V6 Supercharger would be also great if you only want to root and remove all bloatware.

Definitly try arconium 6.1, it's awesome and super fast
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Cheers to the both of you. Cleared up my questions nicely.
I shall try out the Arconium.
But the kernels - lot of people using DoomKernel, and then the one dp94 mentioned V6 Supercharger. Benefits - downsides to both of them? Dont care much for overclocking, because the performance of 1.4 Ghz single core is more enough for me (atleast for the time being). Would love better batterly life and/or performance without overclocking.
As far as I understand, the best way to do things is unlock bootloader, root, install CWM on phone, then let it install the CWM recovery, and from there just apply the custom roms?
Erki

painkillah said:
But the kernels - lot of people using DoomKernel, and then the one dp94 mentioned V6 Supercharger. Benefits - downsides to both of them? Dont care much for overclocking, because the performance of 1.4 Ghz single core is more enough for me (atleast for the time being). Would love better batterly life and/or performance without overclocking.
As far as I understand, the best way to do things is unlock bootloader, root, install CWM on phone, then let it install the CWM recovery, and from there just apply the custom roms?
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V6 Supercharger is a script, not a kernel.
You should definitely try DooMKernel. It's the best combination of battery life (recommend to try -36 baseband) and perfomance.
And you have to flash kernels using fastboot.

Thanks again
After looking for ways to root .62, and not finding anything - I felt like an idiot.
Then suddenly I realized what I had read about Doomkernel - it does root and CWM automatically!
Now running DoomKernel and Arconium
Would love to run CMmod, but as far as I can see, it is still missing HDMI and FM.
Cheers for all the help mate

painkillah said:
Would love to run CMmod, but as far as I can see, it is still missing HDMI and FM.
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Yes, that's correct.
Atm, these features are only working with stock based ROMs.

[Q]ARC S battery drains fast problem after rooting

Hello guys, just want to ask for your recommendation.
I have SE Arc S firmware official 4.0.4 with locked bootloader
After I root my phone (flash 4.0.3 kernel then used doomlords rooting tools then flash again 4.0.4 kernel)
I notice that after I notice that for every 1 hour it drains 5% of the battery in SLEEP MODE(yes i did'nt do touch my phone for 1 hour then it lost 5%)
Also when I play some games like gamevoid pokemon flora sky, it drains so fast I play 1 hour and it lost about 25%+ .
I already searched for possible fix for this here in the forum but no luck. Since I only find some kernels and I don't know if it works with locked BL.
I really appreciate is someone expert can help me on this.
Note: I also tried removing bloat apps so far no improvement.

change the karnel buy exeted battry

rooting is not he ultimate solution to all android problems...u need to installl custom roms and kernels as well....ice cream pureness rom with stock ernel gives me a battery drain as low as 0.7% per hour...while acronium 4 with doomkernel gives me as low as 0.3% per hour......
and why dont you unlock your bootloader, it can always be relocked again and you can claim your warranty....

ICS pureness?
Thanks Link-in,
I do checked the ICS pureness Rom. is it available for locked bootloader?
well regarding unlocking, Im a bit hesitant doing it because my Arc S is only 2months old. And I don't have any experience unlocking any phone yet.

you dont need any xperiance for unlocking the bootloder...everything is done on official sony website......in fact, i would describe it as even easier than rooting.....just go over here http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ and follow the steps.....and check this out for relocking (it gives you back your warranty) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324703........dont worry about any thing and just do it....
if you dont, you know that you will always have to keep on asking whether a particular rom is compatuble with your locked bootloader .and even a single fatal mistake will take your phone forever...
instaed of just thanking, could you plz. hit the thanks button(it helps a lot)

thanks button pressed.
anyway Im thinking to unlock my BL. but what is the recommended ROM for ICS? is there a 4.0.4 custom rom?
Im searching here in XDA but they are not clearly based on 4.0.4. its just 4.0.3 I think.
doomkernel looks good. i'll try it once i unlocked my BL

use stock rom or arc knight

mishap13 said:
thanks button pressed.
anyway Im thinking to unlock my BL. but what is the recommended ROM for ICS? is there a 4.0.4 custom rom?
Im searching here in XDA but they are not clearly based on 4.0.4. its just 4.0.3 I think.
doomkernel looks good. i'll try it once i unlocked my BL
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About 80% of the custom roms are rebased to 4.0.4....and it depend on what type of rom you want for your daily use
Acronium 4 gives battery efficiency
Jj's hybrid gives superb looks
Cm7 and cm 9 give superb stability
And you need to check if doom kernel is compatible with a particular type of rom.....it is not suitable for cm's....but with that, you can overclock the other two roms

flash a stock kernel

Help to cwm, install custom ics and root, for the 1st time!

I have the R800i and I've been using stock GB since day 1. On other devices, galaxy phone to mention, i use paranoid since i discovered it, the best to me.
I gave up looking for custom ICS roms around March as camera and other things were never working. I would have never thought to see paranoid on the play some day!
So I'm happy. But wondering... First thread didn't mention things not working, does it means EVERYTHING works well? Also, is the ram available bigger than stock gb? Cause this is a pain actually, barely no multitasking...
Last but not least: i didn't unlock bootloader but i installed cwm and hard at that time later we could install custom roms without unlocking bootloader... Is that the case now finally? Would make the process less long and risky... On galaxy is soo easy to flash customs!
Add: Is there a good touch recovery like siyah on galaxy s2? Again like siyah is there a kernel for the play that support dual boot? I'm probably just dreaming...
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if u want touch recovery, u can use Doom's kernel, CWM with touch support is included although touch in cwm is pretty much gimmick, IMHO
but it means u have to unlocked your bootloader, which i think shouldn't be a problem for GSM user
as for ICS, there's several good ICS Rom, but i think ICS from Markphyton is the best for now, especially if u want everything working

It is true that you can install some roms without unlocking your bootloader, but not the ones that require another kernel. Every ICS rom does need another kernel, so you'll have to unlock it. Since it's an R800i, it shouldn't be too hard though. If you really don't want to unlock it, you can use a rom like Gin2JB, which looks like it's Jellybean, but is in fact Gingerbread. There is a kernel that supports dual-booting, created by KeiranFTW: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508017
I should note that because the recovery partition (CWM) is inside the kernel on the Xperia Play, meaning you can't flash kernels from the phone. You will need a PC for that.

Thanks for the answer. I installed the jelly bean styled Rom last night, nice for now. Look at siyah kernel on the galaxy s phone, it has a great touch recovery!
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Pm me and i will help you trought the process of unlocking the bootloader and flashing what ever you want falshed on your phone. The paranoid rom is infact my daily drive on my xperia play 800i as well. Tho i might trow some CM 10 on it again once camara is working on those cm10 roms.

Thanks for the support, but that be later finally. I installed gin jelly and i have to send it to warranty before i unlock.
Still it's like to know : how much free team do you have after installing paranoid? On stock custom you get about 200 mb
Also as i think i asked already, does everything work, well? Camera, all wireless, etc....
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64 million dollar question, should I custom ROM?

Hi
As title says I am toying with the idea of updating my ROM from stock 4.1.1
Although I am happy with its overall performance I would like to know from other people what they felt were the main difference when they changed ROMs
I would love to get rid of all the bloatware and have the new camera app with 4.2
also...read somewhere that 4.2 will be available OTA in the new year but what the hell, people root out of the box so it can't be all that bad
All advice welcome thank you for your time
Cheers
Lee

If all you want to do is remove bloatware, all you need to do is root. You can install some of the 4.2 apps without rooting either.
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You don't need to use a Custom rom really.
I got my Note 2 since yesterday and I'm really happy with stock performance (and I was coming from a SGS3).
I just powered it with root and XposedFramework with call recording and multiwindow modules.
I don't know only few devs are doing their mods with xposedframework...
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If you want to tweak and customise it then go for a custom ROM.
Otherwise, if you just want to remove pre-installed apps then just root it and stay on stock as D3 suggested.

Ok so rooting is a must, would I still get updates OTA if I am rooted? maybe for now I can just uninstall bloatware and install the camera app until 4.2 is released
Going to give this a whirl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5RpWHDFAEs

I went that way with my Note I, and was so addicted to it that I didn't rest until I bricked it, of course it was entirely my fault alone but will never take that root again.
So my 64 million dollar advice is no, I will most patiently wait for the stock ROM.

EFCLEE said:
Ok so rooting is a must, would I still get updates OTA if I am rooted? maybe for now I can just uninstall bloatware and install the camera app until 4.2 is released
Going to give this a whirl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5RpWHDFAEs
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I dunno about OTA. I rooted and flashed custom within about 2hrs of getting my Note 2
Put it this way though...any updates, fixes or features included in new official firmware will always be included in the latest stock ROMs, often even before the official stock appears as many XDA devs have industry insiders who often leak f/w early.
Easiest way to root and install a custom recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923956
hagba said:
I went that way with my Note I, and was so addicted to it that I didn't rest until I bricked it, of course it was entirely my fault alone but will never take that root again.
So my 64 million advice is no, I will most patiently wait for the stock ROM.
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All soft-bricks are fixable... don't let it put you off enjoying the vast array of awesome custom ROMs available for Note 2. Just be sure to always have a back-up handy, and to always read the instructions as many times as it takes for them to be clear in your mind :good:

If you have to ask then no.
This PSA was sent Flow style from my Note 2 N-7100

Been using droids for too long now, and I've tried them all. So my 128 million dollar answer will be, NO.
I'm never opening my door to welcome whole world of problems, bugs, frustrations.
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jujuburi said:
Been using droids for too long now, and I've tried them all. So my 128 million dollar answer will be, NO.
I'm never opening my door to welcome whole world of problems, bugs, frustrations.
Sent from my GT-N7100
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You must be flashing the wrong ROMs
I've been doing this a long time too, on lots of different phones and rarely have any bugs or frustrations, certaininly nothing that isn't usually A/ apparent on stock f/w too or B/ fixed within hours/days by the ROM devs. I wouldn't say I'm a flashaholic though, I tend to find a ROM that works well then use it for a few weeks with the odd kernel swap until the next major release, usually a new base, then I'll monitor the threads for a few days to see what issues others are having and see if it's worth my while updating. I guess that's half the fun for me though and I understand some people simplay can't be bothered with it. Each to their own :good:
The good thing about Note 2 is it has good stock and cutom ROMs so you're going to have a good experience either way

I'd echo citizenlees comments. The stock rom is pretty good.
I'm a relative new comer, and I'm in the process of mixing up ROMS And kernels. And I have to say it's been fun trying new things and seeing how they work for you. My battery life now is mega! And that's only from tinkering.
Make sure your back up is solid depending on which recovery version you use.
I've had to use the recovery method when things have gone pear shaped, but all good now.
Have fun and explore in small steps.
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you need to have root to enjoy your android phone to full...for ex: to include all apps in multiview, etc..........but when you have rooted the note2, there is no way you get OTA updates...they are also far and few..you need to update by flashing the official new firmware using odin, when it is made available, usually 2-3 months later than the leak....and you would again lose root...so you again have to root......(unlike my asus tablet, where i can restore root without problem and i get OTA updates despite being rooted..and i am using stock rom on it...asus is fast on updates and fixes)
so think about it, ...you may as well flash custom roms (most are close to stock on the note2 ...just debloated, rooted with all tweaks and mods pre-installed) and enjoy all tweaks and updates earlier.
just read instructions carefully, no problems

The stock firmware is wonderful. I myself got my note yesterday and I am planning to just root and debloat it. I would advise the same.
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i'm more than satisfied with fully stock ROM ( with disabling bloatwares )
just playing with kernels

Im using it stock (4.1.2 official) + root + cwm (to flash some mods for odex roms...) .. And i enjoy it.. THe only thing i miss are those mods for notification toggles, as i cant get them to work on odexed 4.1.2...
Rest is totally fine...
And for the OTA. you dont need to wait for ota.. Just follow xda and, when next official version comes out (4.2) just flash it via odin

EFCLEE said:
...and have the new camera app with 4.2
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If quality don't matter, 4.2 camera isn't close to Samsung's firmware camera. Just something to consider.

Device belong to us..not samsung anymore. Unlease the power!

Update....
hence forth with cm10.1 and gapps-jb was a pleasant experience I have to say.
on boot chose not to do a full synch with gmail, sweet that it re-downloads all ur apps but on this occasion thought best not to
camera didnt have sphere!! so i flash it with 4camnex2 so now I have 2 camera icons in my app draw one that has no sphere and one that fails to load!! hmm
also keyboard doesnt have any number across the top, I was sooo used to this previous now its just a bind having to press 123 button
on the whole I am still glad I upgraded to 4.2
am I right that I could re-flash with an official ROM and revert back to OTA updates?
Any advice on tweaks wit this would be most welcome
Cheers
Lee

Recommend a ROM with lots of extras (tweaks and bloatware)

Hey guys, i am finally back on XDA developers, it has been 3 years as i upgraded to an Iphone but have returned to try out android again in the hopes it is no longer a piece of crap os like it was a few years ago and so far i am linking!.
I just bought the Galaxy note 2 and want to root it.
More specifically when i had my HTC Touch Pro with windows mobile 6, i downloaded Roms with lots of apps pre loaded such as wifi tethering, games tweaks and feature re-enabling.
Now i have a Note 2, i want a ROM with the most tweaks and software installed on it, i do not care for the UI as i can learn however i liked the windowed UI of one of the roms on here which is more like a desktop computer.
So please could you recommend me a Rom with lots of extras and explain how i would root the phone as i have a very vague idea and would want confirmation.
As far as i know, you download the rom, save it to a SD card, then reboot the phone in recovery mode and this is where i get stuck as to what i would do next.
Also, if in the future i want to return to the stock rom, how would i go about doing this?
I live in the uk and have a unlocked GT-N7100 so none of this sprint, verizon , at&t ,T-mobile crap your guys suffer with in America.

Do search for note 2 toolkit.. Root and install cwm or twrp recovery mods through it..
Press power volume up and menu together to boot to cwm and then install your rom .. U can also use cwm to backup your stock rom...
I recommend omega rom myself along with perseus kernel..
Hope it helps and please read the forum.. It hasTONS of info about the same question...
Cheers
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Phoenix.
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UtkarshGupta said:
Phoenix.
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theres lots of great CusROM... for example:
1. you can try ARHD for the most TouchWiz look-aliked
2. Omega cause theres lots of user who supports this ROM
3. Phoneix for the lots of tweaks and mods on the package
4. And many others things...
For me, its Alliance.. may differ for every user... you need to try it on your own.. :good:

For rooting and rom installation I wrecommend to read dr.ketan's excellent thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31801134.
Omega is a touch wizard based rom, so you do not lose the S-pen functionality, and it has lots of customizable functions, mods. I also suggest to install simplistic framework, with further modding capabilities.