Hi guys, couldn't find the answers I'm looking for so i thought I'd start a thread that everyone could post issues and fixes for the most recent update. If this should be in Q & A feel free to move it.
So I got my update last week from Vodafone Australia and just noticed a couple of issue's that maybe the guys that have had the update for a month now can help with.
Basically first thing is there is less free ram, I used to have about 400mb free most of the time now its down to about 300mb.
Now this is only an issue to me as I think it affects my real problem.
The internet has become next to useless to me and it's what I use my phone for 75% of the time. Basically if I try to do anything else the page has to reload, if its fully loaded or just half loaded as soon as I take it off the screen it has to load again.
This isn't just a multitasking issue as it also happens if I switch between tabs, the one in the background always has to reload and I think this is due to not having enough ram to do anymore than have one web page open.
Has anyone experienced a similar issue and know a fix?
My phone is 100% stock btw.
Thanks for the help.
For me, Youtube video stutters after updating to 2.17. It's not a network issue. Even offline (watch later) videos stutter.
No issues whatsoever. My One X flys. Even have much better battery life than before 2.17 update. Try factory reset.
And free RAM is wasted RAM in Linux.
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bubigrega said:
No issues whatsoever. My One X flys. Even have much better battery life than before 2.17 update. Try factory reset.
And free RAM is wasted RAM in Linux.
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Well yes but if there's more ram available then there's more headroom for multitasking and in theory apps are less likely to be closed.
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stuart0001 said:
Well yes but if there's more ram available then there's more headroom for multitasking and in theory apps are less likely to be closed.
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Which is why I think its the cause of my internet issues.
Has anyone noticed having less free ram?
SammyK300 said:
Which is why I think its the cause of my internet issues.
Has anyone noticed having less free ram?
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But big Internet page doesn't take 300mb of ram. I doubt that much more than 1mb. And browser maybe 30mb. Correct me if I'm wrong but 300 mb is plenty of ram for browsing.
Update: HTC browser 80mb right now with 3tabs open: engadget, phandroid and siol site.
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Anyone try this on an epic yet? I don't feel like testing it first as I am waiting for a phone call (staples please hire me)
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/make-the-best-out-of-your-android-device-with-v6-supercharger/
Looks cool though
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Looks interesting and I am reading the thread now.
I am a crash test dummy. I will try it out now...
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Ok, I am running them now. Let me do some testing and report back. I do notice that things do seem to reopen faster after you open them the first time like G-Talk,messaging,browser,etc but let me mess with it some more. I still have to charge battery and re-calibrate my battery..EDIT..I want someone else to try this out to see if things feel faster to them like they do for me. Almost instantly when you press them.
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Xopher, just shot you a "thanks" for the find. Seems to be very impressive so far...looking to see if there are negatives. Also, waiting for some people wiser than I am to try these out and see if they negatively effect any baked in goodies
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Thanks yeah it looks very convincing from the thread, gonna apply the script tonight as well and report my findings tomorrow.
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No bugs here. I have tried it on 2 Froyo ROMs now. You have to remember to back out of apps or use task manager because it will keep them open. Great for Multitasking and such. I have no side effects to report. Make sure to calibrate the battery.
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JohnCorleone said:
No bugs here. I have tried it on 2 Froyo ROMs now. You have to remember to back out of apps or use task manager because it will keep them open. Great for Multitasking and such. I have no side effects to report. Make sure to calibrate the battery.
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calibrate before or after applying the script
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Xopher, just shot you a "thanks" for the find. Seems to be very impressive so far...looking to see if there are negatives. Also, waiting for some people wiser than I am to try these out and see if they negatively effect any baked in goodies
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I got a bunch of Errors on EG22.-___-' lol. Probably operator error on my part though knowing myself.
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I got a bunch of Errors on EG22.-___-' lol. Probably operator error on my part though knowing myself.
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did you follow the tutorial linked in the "supercharged" thread...im on eco5 so maybe its eg22
Xopher, just shot you a "thanks" for the find. Seems to be very impressive so far...looking to see if there are negatives. Also, waiting for some people wiser than I am to try these out and see if they negatively effect any baked in goodies
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I got a bunch of Errors on EG22.-___-' lol. Probably operator error on my part though knowing myself.
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I believe he said that its not ready for Gingerbread. There are a lot of changes to be made to the scripts before it will work. This is for Froyo
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I just finished installing this script - it's the real deal. From what I could gather, it passively optimizes memory management by changing when different priority tasks get killed, which optimizes how much free memory you have.
For us Epic users, I found that using custom settings works the best. Since the Epic has 384 MB RAM and the scripts were designed for 256 MB phones, I chose memory values in between "aggressive" and "megaram 512mb". Apps used to have a small delay before they drew - completely gone. This is also a much more efficient and logical "task killer".
The settings I found worked the best were 6,10,30,45,60,75.
It's very noticeable, even running SyndicateROM 1.2/Genocide 2 @1.2GHz.
EnervinE said:
I just finished installing this script - it's the real deal. From what I could gather, it passively optimizes memory management by changing when different priority tasks get killed, which optimizes how much free memory you have.
For us Epic users, I found that using custom settings works the best. Since the Epic has 384 MB RAM and the scripts were designed for 256 MB phones, I chose memory values in between "aggressive" and "megaram 512mb". Apps used to have a small delay before they drew - completely gone. This is also a much more efficient and logical "task killer".
The settings I found worked the best were 6,10,30,45,60,75.
It's very noticeable, even running SyndicateROM 1.2/Genocide 2 @1.2GHz.
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Thanks for that thorough review. I noticed the exact same thing. I am going to try your settings in the morning to see if its even better than it feels now
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Im on EG22 and im running option 9 right now...... I really noticed a difference...... I wonder if someone could implement these scripts into a kernel for our epics
FYI... If an alternative would be to use Galaxy Tuner > Memory Manager > Application cache and plug in those values EnervinE was kind enough to provide to us all.
That would be true if the SuperCharger script was just another lowmemorykiller/minfree tweaker.
FYI: Which it isn't
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That would be true if the SuperCharger script was just another lowmemorykiller/minfree tweaker.
FYI: Which it isn't
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Aah, you are here! Which setting do you recommend for the Epic? I have been using #9 and 11. Also is running the KickAssKernel and the 3G TurboCharger scripts with V6 recommended by you? I thought I read that you said yes in your thread
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btw, it runs great on gingerbread.
In case of errors, try a lower busybox version.
As I said in the PM, it depends on which point the phone gets laggy.
If it's laggy at 50mb free ram, set slot 3 to 50 mb so that you won't have less than that.
For slots 4, 5, and 6, it really depends on how much multitasking you want or don't want.
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btw, it runs great on gingerbread.
In case of errors, try a lower busybox version.
As I said in the PM, it depends on which point the phone gets laggy.
If it's laggy at 50mb free ram, set slot 3 to 50 mb so that you won't have less than that.
For slots 4, 5, and 6, it really depends on how much multitasking you want or don't want.
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That's why some people had an issue with Gingerbread. Needed lower Busybox version. PM effen lags it sometimes. Thanks for the response.
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Lol at me for starting this 2 days before the one in the general section yet the other one has twice as many responses.
Guess more ppl read the general section
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It's any way that i can decrease the memory used.because rightnow this is what im using. Used:317.63 MB Free:285.43MB Total Mem:603.06 MB. I have the everything i could to the sd card.
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It's any way that i can decrease the memory used.because rightnow this is what im using. Used:317.63 MB Free:285.43MB Total Mem:603.06 MB. I have the everything i could to the sd card.
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Alot of people make the mistake of thinking used memory is a bad thing, this is untrue on the android platform, the more ram being used the better performance you are getting due to the fact android OS knows how to close down applications itself when in need. This is also the reason why app-killer apps are bad not good for your phone. Think about it, ram is kind of like your phones short term memory, it you free that up then it will take longer for it to open processes. Be lucky you are using an AOSP rom, sense roms usually only have about 100 to 150mb of ram free because of all the things senseUI requires. The amount of ram you have free is normal. Unless you get down to like 20mb of ram there is no reason to be concerned whatsoever. If ram wasn't meant to be used then why would they be progressively increasing the amount of it in each new device released?
P.S. with the sound of your concern i can only assume you are coming from a blackberry device prior to your current android.
You are wrong,before my inc2. I had inc1,and before inc1 i had an env2.lol....but i dont now much about android system.
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android-incredible said:
You are wrong,before my inc2. I had inc1,and before inc1 i had an env2.lol....but i dont now much about android system.
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Hey man, it's all good. I just made that assumption because i have lots of friends that came from blackberry, I did myself and anyone that has ran one of those devices knows that you have to constantly watch your ram. Was just trying to give you some info so you don't know not to worry about ram consumption on the android platform.
Ok,bro i just want to learn more about this system.
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Ok,bro i just want to learn more about this system.
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No prob man, I'm off work until monday so I've just been bored cycling through the posts in the Inc2 section today lol.
Hi guys,
I recently upgraded to CM9 FXP128 and there are some features in the Performance tab of settings, that i dont understand.
First of all what is zRam? and what are the side effects of using it?
There are also two other features (Allow purging of assets, Kernel samepage merging). SHould i use them? Are they useful? What are the side effects?
Thanks a lot
Why dont you look it up on http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/ or search around on xda, anyways never heard of it but im currently using CM7.2
there are really no side effects, unless you do something bad
If I remember correctly its compressed ram, but like stated above go look at the websites and SEARCH
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Yeah I've googled it about 100 times, lol, and because i am a noob, they all dont make sense. I've also looked on XDA, and can't find anything i understand. :crying::crying::crying:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRam
There you go, compressed swap inside ram, essentially you get more ram....
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So I'm assuming there are no side-effects, ITS ALL GOOD!!!
your memory card will die faster :| thats the bad side effect...
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your memory card will die faster :| thats the bad side effect...
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But when you say faster, will it die within 2 - 3 years, or longer like 7-8 years? I'm using 18% compressed so yeah.
Flash only has so many read and writes before they start dying, it'll still probably last you like 2 year's
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Flash only has so many read and writes before they start dying, it'll still probably last you like 2 year's
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K thanks, I'll probably get a new phone, or replace the card with a larger one by then
What's the problem?my phone has been with me for about 3 weeks only and its very laggy.I hate this damn problem,also I don't find the acceleration in it like other phones I see on youtube
"Behind every great fortune, there is a crime!"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820349
This guy admits to piracy in here, don't bother.
Try this, Go to task manager and see what all applications are running in background. Kill unwanted apps
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If a phone gets hit on the floor and I mean serious ones do they make the phone slow or it depends on the software??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820349
This guy admits to piracy in here, don't bother.
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Yes because he is the only person to have ever downloaded a pirated app. Im pretty sure youve downloaded some pirated material at some point. Just because he did that doesnt mean he doesnt deserve any help
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I didn't believe I mean what do these apps do on the phone they are the same as other apps
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donhashem.dh said:
What's the problem?my phone has been with me for about 3 weeks only and its very laggy.I hate this damn problem,also I don't find the acceleration in it like other phones I see on youtube
"Behind every great fortune, there is a crime!"
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Restore to factory default. If that don't work, take it in for repair.
Yes I understand! Even I noticed!
donhashem.dh said:
What's the problem?my phone has been with me for about 3 weeks only and its very laggy.I hate this damn problem,also I don't find the acceleration in it like other phones I see on youtube
"Behind every great fortune, there is a crime!"
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I understand! Phones even less expressive than One V like Xperia Mini also have a great acceleration and smooth speed. They are quick responsive and not laggy at all. This is because of HTC. The HTC Sense 4.0. The HTC Sense UI is itself taking a lot of RAM.
Want proof?
Go to Settings-Apps-Running on HTC One V and to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications-Running on a Sony Ericsson Xperia phone.
HTC One V's 'Setting' process takes around 60-70MB of RAM and of ised a little bit more, it even goes over 100MB. Whereas you'll see that i other phones (in this case Sony) take only 15MB of RAM when Settings is open.
Karbonn A9, the phone with not a great brand, but you'll see most of the time 250+MB of RAM is free!
Actually I just install edcyanogen mod 9 and I aren't feeling the speed as the first time
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donhashem.dh said:
Actually I just installedcyanogen mod 9 and I aren't feeling the speed as the first time
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You are running beta software. Restore the machine to factory default, if it's still not working properly, take it in for repair.
stumpyz9 said:
Yes because he is the only person to have ever downloaded a pirated app. Im pretty sure youve downloaded some pirated material at some point. Just because he did that doesnt mean he doesnt deserve any help
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It's funny how you jump to conclusions. You're only portraying your ethics in a negative manner. Sorry, I didn't know that thieves are all of a sudden praised for their hard work. :victory:
Don't know if this has been adressed extensively, sorry ahead of time. I've noticed, since flashing the ROM, my RAM dropped from about 568 total to something like 300-something, and when I see how much RAM I'm using, even with no Apps visibly open, I'm using 274mb of RAM and only have 80mb free...
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Don't know if this has been adressed extensively, sorry ahead of time. I've noticed, since flashing the ROM, my RAM dropped from about 568 total to something like 300-something, and when I see how much RAM I'm using, even with no Apps visibly open, I'm using 274mb of RAM and only have 80mb free...
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HOLY CRAP!! YOUR phone is DEAD!!!
( lol just kiddin)
Your situation is completely normal....free RAM=Useless
80mb is just fine
^lawl
Anyways where'd you get aokp4.2
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soham_sss said:
^lawl
Anyways where'd you get aokp4.2
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Yeah just kidding, just realized I put 4.2.1 and meant 4.1.2 :silly: