So what are some stupid moments that you've had with your s3 dropped it, left it somewhere etc ?
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As for me while brushing my teeth I managed to drop the ear buds in the sink, while listening to music, hitting the running water for a good 2 second. They still worked though
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My gf dropped her s3 off the super man roller coaster at 6flags america lol it was in a ballistic maxx case and survived
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Dropped it out of my gym shorts while getting into my car. I find it pretty freaking ridiculous that they made the screen indestructible and the plastic bezel/battery-cover plastic that's about as tough as cold butter. God I was pissed.
Dropped it after 3 days, screen shattered. BB replaced it with a new one!
The usual. Got out the car forgot it was on my lap. Dropped in a pile of mud on its back. Wiped off the phone, no scratches
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Se ond day I had it I was running across a busy street and dropped it into on coming traffic, no way in hell was I letting it get run over, stopped picked it up, kicked the rest of the parts away and made it out safely
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Mutiny32 said:
Dropped it out of my gym shorts while getting into my car. I find it pretty freaking ridiculous that they made the screen indestructible and the plastic bezel/battery-cover plastic that's about as tough as cold butter. God I was pissed.
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This!! I dropped it twice (no case/screen protector) from about 4.5ft onto concrete.. once on the screen, once on the corner... screen is indestructible, no scratches or cracks but the bezel is chipped up pretty good from it.
flashed font using rom tools and soft bricked my phone...stupid duh.
The USB port was acting funny
When the thing was slightly raised it charged and after a week of just barely charging it I found out that it was my old epic 4g charger that became loose
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there was this one time when my phone rang and it scared me. that was pretty cool.
After I rooted my GS3, I had the battery removed because I was cleaning behind the cover a little bit. Tried to turn the phone on without the battery and freaked out thinking something broke lol
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Day 1, no case, phone face down on a piece of paper. Tried to pick up slippery ass phone. Slid across paper and now have 3 long micro scratches. Can't see them most of the time but I was real pissed.
Gorilla glass my ass!
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Day 1, no case, phone face down on a piece of paper. Tried to pick up slippery ass phone. Slid across paper and now have 3 long micro scratches. Can't see them most of the time but I was real pissed.
Gorilla glass my ass!
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Was this sandpaper? Silicates will scratch Gorilla Glass. That's about all that will.
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Well I'm stupid... phone slipped and skid in the ground causing scratches and part of the "Galaxy S III" label scratched off... now only the "xy S III" part is left
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1 Week after I got it, I was on the lake, and jumped (or maybe fell while highly intoxicated) in to the water with it in my pocket, was underwater for a good 5 to 10 seconds. Water damage indicator on the battery is bright red
Phone still works just fine, although I haven't been able to test 4G, because there's no LTE in my area.
Well, wallet failed today...no McDonalds for me
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I didnt have my case on and somehow the phone slid out of my pocket while getting out of the truck. I Now have a crack in the top left corner of the screen and another hairline fracture running down the rest of it.
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still no idea how
Idk how but I have a stupid annoying little crack just above the volume rocker anybody else have this issue?
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flashed font using rom tools and soft bricked my phone...stupid duh.
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I flashed a rom for the quad-core GSIII :crying: I have no friggin' idea how I misseD that, but I hard bricked my device. Went to Radioshack around noon today, just got a call back saying I could come in and pick up my shiny new GSIII
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So today at work I dropped my 15 day old note 2 a whole 18" and what happened. ... gorilla glass FAIL!!!! The lower right corner has a small crack and there is a hairline crack thru the middle to the top. ...I bought the protection plan has anyone else had there screen crack? I had my HTC HD2 ever since it first came out and dropped it several times and never had any damages. ..The note 2 falls a short distance and boom cracked screen
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I have watched drop tests showing the Note 2 falling from a 6 foot tall mans ear, and it only scuffing the sides. Just bad luck. Does the protection plan cover accidental drops?
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So today at work I dropped my 15 day old note 2 a whole 18" and what happened. ... gorilla glass FAIL!!!! The lower right corner has a small crack and there is a hairline crack thru the middle to the top. ...I bought the protection plan has anyone else had there screen crack? I had my HTC HD2 ever since it first came out and dropped it several times and never had any damages. ..The note 2 falls a short distance and boom cracked screen
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Unfortunately a bigger screen is more prone to breaks, and gorilla glass2 is only hard; meaning its hard to scratch, but it's still glass and will not flex.
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Did you have a case on it man .... ????
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$130 please
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Im looking into what my extended pass protection covers today, I did NOT have a case (SMH) im keeping my fingers crossed that it does not cost to much to repair!
I swear they made this phone so slick just so people would drop it. I've been lucky so far but my cases can't get here soon enough!
I have one and my fiance has one also. She broke hers a week after getting it. Asurion insurance is wuoting me $130 to replace
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Any cracks ?
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Almost as bad. I was putting together Christmas lights with the wife and kid yesterday and had my phone in my sweat pants pocket. I was sitting on the side walk and my phone slid out and fell maybe 4 inches. I now have a crack across the entire width of the phone about an inch from the bottom.
I had a Sensation before this and abused the hell out of it and it's still flawless.
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Almost as bad. I was putting together Christmas lights with the wife and kid yesterday and had my phone in my sweat pants pocket. I was sitting on the side walk and my phone slid out and fell maybe 4 inches. I now have a crack across the entire width of the phone about an inch from the bottom.
I had a Sensation before this and abused the hell out of it and it's still flawless.
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My SGN2 fell from my desk onto a concrete slab and cracked...the only day I take my case off and bam
Keep your cases on folks, big screens mean little drops make the screen go boom!
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Im real skeptical on how this will hold up over time...falls are gonna happen but for it to crack this easy (come on samsung) my htc hd2 never a scratch since day it was released!
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That hurts
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I'm having doubts about on to get this phone or not, I'm on a pre-paid plan and I've been thinking on getting it before Christmas at full price, but if it breaks that easily, is just scary.
Currently I'm using a Samsung Vibrant and I drop that phone maybe like 25 times or more and have scratches all around but the screen is like new, and for the GN2 being a huge phone, putting a protecting case just gonna add up too much.
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I dropped mine onto a tile floor at my workplace from pocket height and it suffered no damage. The battery door and battery flew halfway across the room, but it worked fine after putting them back in. No case on it, either.
It's just pure chance.
DKM119 said:
I'm having doubts about on to get this phone or not, I'm on a pre-paid plan and I've been thinking on getting it before Christmas at full price, but if it breaks that easily, is just scary.
Currently I'm using a Samsung Vibrant and I drop that phone maybe like 25 times or more and have scratches all around but the screen is like new, and for the GN2 being a huge phone, putting a protecting case just gonna add up too much.
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there are plenty of cases that do not add much bulk to the phone..technically speaking, all you really need is a raised edge on the bumper around the screen. During a fall, as long as its not your screen corners that take the hit (Let the case absorb the impact), you should be fine. If you are holding back on getting a great phone just because it breaks when you drop it, then...oh well..
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I dropped mine onto a tile floor at my workplace from pocket height and it suffered no damage. The battery door and battery flew halfway across the room, but it worked fine after putting them back in. No case on it, either.
It's just pure chance.
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Im with you. I have dropped mine a few times from different hights, onto different surfaces (tile, carpet, concrete) no damage. Worst that happened was battery cover came half off. Only thing I have on is the flip case from samsung.
Most of the falls were from sitting pocket height, but one or two on tile were from pocket height while standing.
Brace yourselves
Here is my brother's note. Dropped out of his jacked pocket while getting out of his car.
Well I got some good news and bad news...the good news is that Mobile Device Protection Association, LLC who T mobile uses for devices is going to fix my device free of charge! The Bad news I will be without my Note 2 for 5 days, it sucks that the Note 2will be gone. Hell in this day and age having no phone for 5 days is very hard.
Just appreciating how durable this phone is. The phone's plastic rim absorbed any impact to the side, the screen can't be scratched if you drop it facedown do to the rim that you don't even notice. The back cover is so tight that you never need to worry about it poping out if it's dropped.
After 18 months I'm still loving this phone!!!
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Just appreciating how durable this phone is. The phone's plastic rim absorbed any impact to the side, the screen can't be scratched if you drop it facedown do to the rim that you don't even notice. The back cover is so tight that you never need to worry about it poping out if it's dropped.
After 18 months I'm still loving this phone!!!
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Drop ur phone on its upper right corner n report back how well u like it then. I'm on my second because my red one took a bump to hard. Yeah its durable but it sure us old.
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Just appreciating how durable this phone is. The phone's plastic rim absorbed any impact to the side, the screen can't be scratched if you drop it facedown do to the rim that you don't even notice. The back cover is so tight that you never need to worry about it poping out if it's dropped.
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Unless you drop it face down on a surface that isn't flat...
Hey guys do you think my phone will break if I smash it with a hammer?
There's only one way to find out for sure!
nitsua98 said:
Hey guys do you think my phone will break if I smash it with a hammer?
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No go ahead a try it. I've done it perfect condition still lol
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Hey guys do you think my phone will break if I smash it with a hammer?
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I've dropped my phone on its side plenty of times. Screen never cracked. Just a few white scratches and dents as a result.
If I dropped it the same way with an iPhone or a......... pretty much any other phone I wouldn't had a cracked screen.
Just appreciating durability..... no need to insult
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I've dropped my phone on its side plenty of times. Screen never cracked. Just a few white scratches and dents as a result.
If I dropped it the same way with an iPhone or a......... pretty much any other phone I wouldn't had a cracked screen.
Just appreciating durability..... no need to insult
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No insult, just a joke
I shattered my screen just by pulling it out of my pocket and lightly bumping the back of the phone against a bathroom counter corner. It survived hela drops, but that one instance of light contact with a pointed surface did it in. All well, I just need it to last me one more month and then I'm replacing it with a new phone.
My son dropped his phone once, shattered instantly! Verizon is also refusing to replace it, even though I got the extended coverage. Contract is up soon, last 2 phones with their contact!
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Since I've seen people post here saying their screen has cracked without dropping their phones, I thought I'd start a poll to get an idea of how common this is percentage wise.
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Since I've seen people post here saying their screen has cracked without dropping their phones, I thought I'd start a poll to get an idea of how common this is percentage wise.
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Mine is still more than fine.
Even dropped it once.
No cracks here.
Purchased since release day via website. Had it overnighted.
If you actually go through various threads and search about screens cracked without dropping, you'd get an idea on how high this percentage is... besides, it'd be nearly impossible to get everyone here to vote anyway.
It only takes a few seconds to respond. Over time, it should give me an idea.
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I can imagine how a phone could crack (inner LCD) without ever dropping it or bumping it.
Simply put it in your tight jeans and sit down. There you go. That's what most of you do.
Moral of the story, don't wear tight jeans, because the screen will FLEX and cause the crack.
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I can imagine how a phone could crack (inner LCD) without ever dropping it or bumping it.
Simply put it in your tight jeans and sit down. There you go. That's what most of you do.
Moral of the story, don't wear tight jeans, because the screen will FLEX and cause the crack.
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Wrong. I haven't worn a pair of jeans since my short stint at trauth dairy back in fall 2006.
I feel like I'm missing something. I dropped my phone from my pocket to hardwood floors and it was fine. Then it was dropped from a dining table to a tile floor and it was fine. I was surprised to see no damage done without a case. Hopefully I won't ever drop it again though. I bought this phone since day one BTW
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My screen didn't crack but my bezel did, I have my replacement one already got it yesterday the T-Mobile rep did me a warranty exchange, I'm still using my normal one until I get a case for the new one. If this is for screen cracks only sorry, but I didn't like how I had the phone for a wk and the bezel cracked out of nowhere.
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And T-Mobile replaced it for that?
Typically they consider that physical damage and charge a fee on exchange.
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Got mine on launch, woke up this morning with a crack at an angle from top left to mid right.
I often fall asleep with it on my chest, woke up and it was on the coffee table; guess someone seen it and put it there. Pissed off, nonetheless.
Hopefully I can get it replaced/fixed since it should still be under warranty and with the device protection bundle thing.
Ugh.
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In that case with damage you need to file a claim and pay a deductible then you get one from insurance.
No cracks or scratches
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None here, either
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I had been there a couple times and the lady helped me every time she knew I'd just bought the phone, I didn't break it so I consider that a defective device
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Mine is doing great. I dropped it a few times already. First time with a crappy case that only covered the sides not the top or bottom and a couple times in my otterbox commuter.
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Mine is still more than fine.
Even dropped it once.
No cracks here.
Purchased since release day via website. Had it overnighted.
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same here
beside only having 9 gigs of usable internal storage, the phone has been perfect
I install car audio as a job and I always have my phone in my pocket. I tend to lean on it often with a lot of weight and when I realize it, I check my phone right away. Still haven't experienced any cracks (knock on wood). I'm using a case-mate tough case, if that helps.
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No cracks here
Dropped twice now, no cracks yet. I thank my tech21 case.
I would say that a vast majority of people with cracked screens are doing something that they are not being totally honest about...
Probably putting a lot of pressure on it in tight clothes, bumping it against a hard surface...etc etc.
I don't doubt that some may have bad luck and some sort of rare defect...but it is far from the norm.
These devices don't just spontaneously crack. Mines in my pocket all day.... no screen protector and a very slim case.... 100% perfect still.
You guys with cracked screens simply have to be more careful with your $700 toys.
NO....even more careful.
Cheers
My son just cracked his.. Dropped out of his pocket with a decent car on it.. From a sitting position
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Mine seems pretty indestructable. Can't even count how many times I've dropped it. Ha. Today I was fishing and dropped it in mud and water. It filled up the USB. Hahaha didn't even flinch. Cleaned it up good to go. No case and no screen protector. Only one minor hairline scratch on the screen. What do you guys put it through?
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Nothing at all. I protect like a baby
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Nothing at all. I protect like a baby
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Same here. :good:
Mine got ripped out of my pocket when my headphones got tangled, and fell on a concrete foot path, and into a small puddle. It got a few tiny scratches around the edges, but other than that its completely fine. I just coloured in the scratches with a black marker, and it looks brand new!
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well sold my one v but it was as shiny as new (except a scratch on the back)
Fell from my hands 4 to 5 times (no case)
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Back in April after I rooted it, I was flashing something while walking on a concrete sidewalk (because I'm an idiot), and it fell out of my hands and cracked... but it still works really well!
I think that mine is magical. Sometimes in a rush I stick it into my pocket along with my keys and it gets a few scratches on the metal housing, but they quickly disappear. I'm guessing the marks are from the keys themselves getting worn instead of my the phone getting scratched
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mines been in a cheap silicone/plastic case and the screen under a zagg screen protector since fresh out the box, its still perfect
Don't remember how exactly, but water got into the phone and screen once. It dried out and revived after I dumped it into a tub of rice and left it there overnight.
Also, dropped it countless times and there are numerous scratches on the back of the phone. There are still signs of water damage on the LCD, but it's still going strong like a champ. One V ftw! :laugh:
dropped it a handful of times. still working though.
As you do I was in the bath watching django on mxplayer and I dropped it in the bath :0 turned it off and left it to dry for an hour and bam I'm back watching django, and it still resumed from where I was watching
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As we do? Hahahahaha. Sorry don't bath with mine, only drop it in lakes and rivers. Pretty hardcore little phone eh?
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Luckily I had in in an Otterbox case at the time; but a girl threw me in a pool at a party with it. It took a couple of seconds to get out of my jeans and then she couldn't get it out of the case - but once thrown in rice it never had any problems. That was about a year ago. Also, been dropped a few time lol :laugh:
Fell a lot but no baths till now
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My HOV fell a lot evident from its multiple scratches on its back
But no bath till now hopefully till end:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Dropped from my pocket when I was kneeling, it dropped onto carpet.****ing broke the edge of the screen.It's like 1/4 of the screen.
Hows your M been holding up over the coarse of your experience?
Only a few scuffs on the bezel here, but I use a medium strength case when out and about
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So far, so good. No case, and I've had it about a month. No scratches, scuffs, or anything.
Mine developed a pretty nasty scratch on the screen--how, I don't know. I can feel it with my fingertip too, which is quite annoying.
I've had mine about 6 months or so, and I've been using it without any case or screen protector. Dropped it many times, even on concrete. Just few scratches on bezel. Nothing on the screen.
Had mine close to a year now. Bought a case, rarely use it. Dropped it hard on icy cement from a standing position. Which an iPad user found hilarious mimicking the "Droid" startup sound immediately. Picked up the phone, worried, looked at it and it virtually smiled at me. Not a scratch anywhere. Not on the back, not on the screen, and none on the corners.
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I have a case but rarely use it since it makes it feel bulky in my pocket. I have dropped it many times and really the only scratches on the bezel are there because I keep my phone in the same pocket as my keys.
No case, but I do have a screen protector. had first drop today off desk and onto one of the legs of my chair, but the cracking sound I heard seemed to be the chair. Phone came out unharmed
I have a barely there case along with generic screen saver and mine looks like the day I got it (not a single scratch or blemish). I have dropped it about 10 times and NOTHING. bought mine used btw and it was flawless when I received it. By far the most durable phone I've had so far. Motorola phones in general seem well built.
I'm somewhat of an idiot and decided to test how water proof it was. Fully submerged it seems it could stay there for some time and not be damaged
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I'm somewhat of an idiot and decided to test how water proof it was. Fully submerged it seems it could stay there for some time and not be damaged
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Wow... Who's got some bells (yes bells) of steel... Thanks... good to know
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Had. A Droid X without a case and dropped it a bunch of time even on the road while riding the motorcycle. No crack on the screen, but badly damaged in the body and backplate. Got really impressive by Motorola phone then got myself a Razr M without a case as well. Dropped it several time and got a really small scratches on the bezel, but other than that it's surely a really damn tough phone ever.
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Dropped onto foot then kicked across uneven concrete sidewalk, leading to small scuffs on back bezel corners. Once smacked it into the rim of a glass, causing a small dent in the bezel. Other than that it's been good.
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I'm somewhat of an idiot and decided to test how water proof it was. Fully submerged it seems it could stay there for some time and not be damaged
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Yeah, I accidentally knocked mine into the bathroom sink full of water.The micr-sd card was already on its last legs and the water finished it off. And the external speaker wasn't as loud as normal for about a day and a half until it completely dried out. But it works fine now and the sd card was replaced by sandisk's warranty.
I've dropped mine an innumerable number of times on concrete with no damage to usability. My OCD hates the scratches on the bevel, but nothing on the screen or elsewhere. The worst I've had is the bottom part of the case came loose one time when I really, really hit it hard on the ground. Still going fine...
Dropped mine taking out of my pocket, cracked the back glass thing. Then dropped in water sink for a sec accidentally, phone wouldn't work for about a day, now it's fine though. Just not waterproof anymore
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too tough
Some time back I was driving a 1994 Cadillac, disgusted with how my conversation had gone, i threw my Iphone4S on to my dashboard, where it bounced and hit the windshield, and shattered the phone beyond useability.... that's what put me in the market for a new phone.
Grabbed a Razr M, and in short time history repeats itself....threw it against the dash, into the glass....the Razr M spidered the windshield....... happy to know I can replace a windshield in a 2006 Dodge Ram for $155, that still $44 less than the deductible for the Iphone4s.
The Caddy story is my favorite! You, sir, are a Legend!
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The Caddy story is my favorite! You, sir, are a Legend!
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How about this one? This happened the 1st day I had the phone. I was roofing house and the phone accidently slipped out of my hand. I watched it slide down the roof and disappear over the edge then I heard it hit the concrete walkway 2 stories below. I didn't even bother to look at it or let alone want to go pick up the pieces as I figured it was destroyed. 2 of my workers saw the whole thing happen and kept busting me about killing my new phone in less than a day. A couple minutes later I heard a phone ringing and yelled for someone to answer it. The other 2 guys on the roof with me both responded that it wasn't their phone. It took a while for it to dawn on me that it was my phone I had just dropped ringing on the ground below so I decided to investigate. I climbed down the ladder and was amazed to find the phone in one piece with the screen side up. I picked it up hit the power button and was shocked when the screen turned on and had no cracks. I have no idea how the phone actually impacted the concrete after falling off the roof but the only damage was some scrapes on the bezel. I consider the build quality and design of this phone to be amazing especially compared to a friends S3 which didn't survive a fall from a kitchen counter after being swatted by his cat.
Great story! However, in this one, the cat is the Legend!
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So I've finally had an incident the old lady and I we're in the midst of a fight and she throws out there you love your phone more than me so to prove a point I throw it at the wall pretty much as hard as I can and of course it goes to the wall unlike other phones which have shattered into pieces.... thinking the worst I'm like oh well... patch up the hole and forget about it... I get home later that day and she meets me at the door saying that we have mice in the wall... I knew when she said that what it was... I tell her to call my phone and sure enough the rattle in the wall she had been hearing was my phone... I cut it out and nothing but some dry wall on the corner... after a vigorous scrub you can't even tell....
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