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Rooting Gnex GSM/HSPDA v4.0.2 Optus Stock

Hey guys!!,
Yet another of my noob questions BUT, this time I think I'm going to take the plunge and root my Gnex!!! *scared* haha
I'm just having to many frustrating things happening on my stock Gnex, low responsiveness to the touch, slow-ish and well, isnt this what its all about!! =)
So a quick one, if anyone can point me in the most normal, simple and customizable direction, what do I do? I have searched for a while now so I have an idea where i want to go, either, Cynagon or AOKP...I'm hearing great things about AOKP...there from the same devs yeah?? (a guess)
So, I have a Samsung updated Gnex, in Aus and with optus. I'm technical so I'm getting a grasp on whats what but still not to clear on Kernels and radios....bit worried about that. Clockwork I'm guessing is like a boot manager?? Just asking that while I was here...
So Odin? Wug? CF-Root? I'm just not sure...
Thanks soooo much in advance guys.... I already appreciate your help. =)=)
*Excited!!!*
Cheers!!
P.S. I'd also very much like to return to stock form later on if I want...like locked oem and restored stock rom... =)

Helmet321 said:
Hey guys!!,
Yet another of my noob questions BUT, this time I think I'm going to take the plunge and root my Gnex!!! *scared* haha
I'm just having to many frustrating things happening on my stock Gnex, low responsiveness to the touch, slow-ish and well, isnt this what its all about!! =)
So a quick one, if anyone can point me in the most normal, simple and customizable direction, what do I do? I have searched for a while now so I have an idea where i want to go, either, Cynagon or AOKP...I'm hearing great things about AOKP...there from the same devs yeah?? (a guess)
So, I have a Samsung updated Gnex, in Aus and with optus. I'm technical so I'm getting a grasp on whats what but still not to clear on Kernels and radios....bit worried about that. Clockwork I'm guessing is like a boot manager?? Just asking that while I was here...
So Odin? Wug? CF-Root? I'm just not sure...
Thanks soooo much in advance guys.... I already appreciate your help. =)=)
*Excited!!!*
Cheers!!
P.S. I'd also very much like to return to stock form later on if I want...like locked oem and restored stock rom... =)
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Try my ToolKit in the dev forum. Its simple, straightforward, easy to understand, there is a 1-click option which will do everything and every step is explained in detail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
You can also use my ToolKit to flash a Stock Google Rom if you ever want to in the future.
With regards to Roms there are lots available to try by very experienced developers that will make your phone better and plenty of kernels to make it run ALOT faster. I use bigxie's Rom and franco's kernel.
Mark.

Hi!!,
Thanks so much for your reply!
Funny as, I was JUST reading your guide. Awesome work man, very informative.=)=) and it would of taken some time to compile!. =/
Arm, I'm just wondering what file I need to backup to got back to the rom I'm on now? I want to be able to go back, if needed.
I don’t know what kernels are all about, and what do I need to do about Radios?? If I have the wrong one or something, does that mean I wont have signal?? Or bad call/signal reliability?
I'm looking at the build 23 of AOKP...I'm hearing its the go...and if i have a wrong kernal rom radio combo, what’s that going to do??, that’s if they correlate?? haha
Is security as issue?? Since these are built "freely" is there any exposure of private info?
I'm sorry for smashing you with all this, I'm just trying to get all the info before I do anything and to have a failsafe if I need to return for warranty.... =/
Thank you in advance!!! =)
Cheers.
P.S. Is Bigxie Apex?? I hear good things about that too!! haha. Its so hard, theres so many out there... Apex, Gummy, AOKP look great. I also really want a responsive, battery lasting, fast and importantly "stable" phone. So, not sure what you recommend. =)
Thanks already!! =)=)

Helmet321 said:
Hi!!,
Thanks so much for your reply!
Funny as, I was JUST reading your guide. Awesome work man, very informative.=)=) and it would of taken some time to compile!. =/
Arm, I'm just wondering what file I need to backup to got back to the rom I'm on now? I want to be able to go back, if needed.
I don’t know what kernels are all about, and what do I need to do about Radios?? If I have the wrong one or something, does that mean I wont have signal?? Or bad call/signal reliability?
I'm looking at the build 23 of AOKP...I'm hearing its the go...and if i have a wrong kernal rom radio combo, what’s that going to do??, that’s if they correlate?? haha
Is security as issue?? Since these are built "freely" is there any exposure of private info?
I'm sorry for smashing you with all this, I'm just trying to get all the info before I do anything and to have a failsafe if I need to return for warranty.... =/
Thank you in advance!!! =)
Cheers.
P.S. Is Bigxie Apex?? I hear good things about that too!! haha. Its so hard, theres so many out there... Apex, Gummy, AOKP look great. I also really want a responsive, battery lasting, fast and importantly "stable" phone. So, not sure what you recommend. =)
Thanks already!! =)=)
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If you goto settings, about phone then it will tell you all about your current rom build. If its a yakju build then its a stock google rom and can easily be found and reflashed via my ToolKit. If its been put on by your operator then you wont be able to obtain it online and you are best backing it up (unless you dont mind putting the google stock rom back on).
To do that you will need to set your drivers up first. This is important as nothing else can be done without this step. If you have Windows xp or 7 then its pretty easy, you can install the drivers automatically via the GNex ToolKit, then reboot your pc. Goto settings, developer options on your phone and tick 'usb debugging' then connect the usb cable to your phone (with it booted into Android). This should install adb drivers which are needed for communication when your phone is booted into Android. Start the ToolKit and select your current build version (which can be found in settings, about phone). At the top of the Main Menu you should see a serial number under adb mode which means your device is recognised in this mode. Select reboot options (19) in the ToolKit and Reboot phone to Fastboot (3). This is a bootloader mode for the phone outside of Android where you can flash and manipulate certain parts of your phone. As this mode is at a much lower level then the operating system it can be your saviour if your phone locks or wont start and you need to flash back to stock.
Once the phone has rebooted to fastboot mode the fastboot drivers should be installed on your pc. If nothing happens try unplugging and replugging the usb cable to initiate the drivers. If the drivers have installed before the ToolKit refreshes then you should now see the serial number at the top under fastboot mode this time. You NEED both fastboot and adb drivers installed on your pc for everything to work.
After the drivers have been set up you will need to Unlock the Bootloader to be able to have access to system areas on your phone. BE AWARE that unlocking the bootloader will erase EVERYTHING all data on your phone including the Internal Storage (virtual SD Card) so copy anything you need to from your Internal Storage accross to your pc and use the Backup option in the ToolKit to save any installed apps and associated user data that you want to keep. This is done in adb mode so your phone will need to be in Android.
If you want to back up your current Rom then Unlock the Bootloader, reboot your phone into Android, go through the setup quickly (as the phone will have been wiped), then goto settings developer options and enable usb debugging. Start the ToolKit and in the Main Menu select 19, 3 to reboot back to fastboot mode. Then you can BOOT into CWM Recovery without flashing it (9) and select backup/restore to backup your Rom/user data/boot image to a datestamped folder inside a folder called Clockworkmod on your Internal Storage. The rebooting into Android step after unlocking the Bootloader is important as cwm will not work properly without doing that.
Once that is all done you are ready to reboot into Android from cwm, get back to fastboot mode as before and select 1-click option (7). You will get a message on the unlock stage saying that your device is already unlocked but then it will just skip to the next stage. Be aware that when the device boots into Android the first time this is to let the user enable usb debugging for adb operations and if you have already done this then the ToolKit will wait for about 3 minutes before carrying on. Be patient as the ToolKit hasnt frozen, its just set to pause before carrying on.
Ok now thats all over with, on to your other questions lol. I would advise trying either romanbb's AOKP (build 24 should be up today) or bigxie's Apex 1.02 to start. Personally I use Apex as it has loads of customisation and runs very well but saying that I will be trying romanbb's new build when it is out.
Kernels are like the drivers of your phone. They set up how it works and what it can do. Custom Kernels can give better battery life and more power, performance, stability so its well worth trying them once you are rooted. They will tell you what builds they are compatable with but if you are thinking about the above Roms then you will be on Android build 4.0.3 and most new kernels work with that. I use franco's kernel but there are ALOT of established kernel developers working with the Nexus so you could try fugumod by nikademus or trinity by morfic. These are all flashed via cwm (download file, copy to Internal Memory, reboot to recovery mode once you have cwm flashed). You can enter cwm by rebooting to fastboot and using the volume buttons to select recovery, then press power to select, or from the reboot phone options in the ToolKit (19,4 in adb mode).
Bootloaders and Baseband/Radio updates are something to think about but not really needed if your phone is running fine. You wont notice any change if you update the bootloader as its just like updating your bios on a pc. Just gives some extra functionality or updates some deep down settings. Radios control the communication part of your phone and updating to a new one may improve battery, signal, wifi, gps lock. You can update them by either grabbing a premade zip and flashing via cwm or download the .img file and flash that via the ToolKit.
Dont worry about malware included in custom roms as long as its by an established developer. They would never put anything dangerous to the end user in one of their roms as it would harm their reputation and if anything was found by a user the rom would be taken down imediately by us mods to keep you safe.
I think thats everything you will ever need to know lol. Sorry theres alot I wanted to make sure you had all the ammunition you needed to continue and it took soo long to write I had lunch half way through
good luck.
Mark.

Ohhh man, thank you sooo much. That’s a lot of info and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me Mark. Thank you!!!!
Ok, I’ve been watching some videos, one off of GalaxyNexusRoot.com. I think its his YouTube chan… He's seems pretty cool. Shows you what to do. I sort of want to do it manually so I'm understanding it all?, if that makes sense? I like to know exactly what my device is doing, why and how? haha. I'm a bit pedantic like that.
Arm, only a couple of things....I'm draining your life here...haha
I have a Samsung updated Gnex, throwing that in FYI. =) Not sure if the warranty centre would realise, probably so I should back it up as it is...on this note quickly, I do want to have a yakju (Google) updated phone though...hehe.
When I back up, does it flash everything? the rom, kernels and radios? (Mostly for my Stock setup for reversion, and understanding...)
With roms, where can I get the G'apps from? (If needed) And or the SupUser/Root files? (Separately I mean, so I can do this manually...if I'm understanding it properly... =/ )
Also, do these apps and others update as normal? Or di i have to update the whole ROM to update them? Like Maps (Navigation more importantly), GTalk, MarketPlace etc...?
And finally....phew...haha arm, sorry....
I'm looking at doing this because currently my device just seems a little non-responsive, laggy-ish and its turned off once.. =/ Is this all normal?? I thought for a minute my screen was faulty, like touches don’t always respond...I mean 90% of the time they do...I know, I'm nuts but it just ruins it for me... I uninstalled Beautiful Widgets and it’s sort of been better…maybe some apps aren’t configured with ICS yet also…I'm thinking it just could be the build? What do you think??
It's kind of weird to think that an individual dev has made. and is making more progress than the developers of the phone/software?? hahah...Anyway, I hope I've made some sense and I really, really, really appreciate all this Mark, all your time and patience with me. =)
Thanks again!!!!
P.S.... This should be it I SWEAR!! haha....
Just wanted to put these here...these are "some" of the problems I've been having... =/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487946
Thank you...again!!!

I just want to thank the OP for asking the right questions and taking the time to figure out how "hack" his/her phone correctly instead of jumping in blind.
I hope other beginners follow the OP's lead.
That is all.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Helmet321 said:
Ohhh man, thank you sooo much. That’s a lot of info and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me Mark. Thank you!!!!
Ok, I’ve been watching some videos, one off of GalaxyNexusRoot.com. I think its his YouTube chan… He's seems pretty cool. Shows you what to do. I sort of want to do it manually so I'm understanding it all?, if that makes sense? I like to know exactly what my device is doing, why and how? haha. I'm a bit pedantic like that.
Arm, only a couple of things....I'm draining your life here...haha
I have a Samsung updated Gnex, throwing that in FYI. =) Not sure if the warranty centre would realise, probably so I should back it up as it is...on this note quickly, I do want to have a yakju (Google) updated phone though...hehe.
When I back up, does it flash everything? the rom, kernels and radios? (Mostly for my Stock setup for reversion, and understanding...)
With roms, where can I get the G'apps from? (If needed) And or the SupUser/Root files? (Separately I mean, so I can do this manually...if I'm understanding it properly... =/ )
Also, do these apps and others update as normal? Or di i have to update the whole ROM to update them? Like Maps (Navigation more importantly), GTalk, MarketPlace etc...?
And finally....phew...haha arm, sorry....
I'm looking at doing this because currently my device just seems a little non-responsive, laggy-ish and its turned off once.. =/ Is this all normal?? I thought for a minute my screen was faulty, like touches don’t always respond...I mean 90% of the time they do...I know, I'm nuts but it just ruins it for me... I uninstalled Beautiful Widgets and it’s sort of been better…maybe some apps aren’t configured with ICS yet also…I'm thinking it just could be the build? What do you think??
It's kind of weird to think that an individual dev has made. and is making more progress than the developers of the phone/software?? hahah...Anyway, I hope I've made some sense and I really, really, really appreciate all this Mark, all your time and patience with me. =)
Thanks again!!!!
P.S.... This should be it I SWEAR!! haha....
Just wanted to put these here...these are "some" of the problems I've been having... =/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487946
Thank you...again!!!
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A cwm backup will back up system, data, boot, recovery and cache but it will not back up your radio image so check your version in the about phone screen first so you know what you need.
The latest gapps flashable zip can be found in the development forum. Did the youtube channel not give a link to the root files? If not then I have attached the 2 files you need to push. Make sure to set their permissions too after pushing.
Without knowing exactly what you have put on your phone its hard to comment about responsiveness but as stock roms dont have all the optimisations that custom roms have they are definitely slower. A custom rom and kernel will surely sort out your problems
Mark.

What does stock stand for?

udmbrian said:
What does stock stand for?
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It means the version that the manufacturer put on the phone before it was shipped or a version that is supplied by the manufacturer. Unaltered by developers.
Mark.

mskip said:
A cwm backup will back up system, data, boot, recovery and cache but it will not back up your radio image so check your version in the about phone screen first so you know what you need.
The latest gapps flashable zip can be found in the development forum. Did the youtube channel not give a link to the root files? If not then I have attached the 2 files you need to push. Make sure to set their permissions too after pushing.
Without knowing exactly what you have put on your phone its hard to comment about responsiveness but as stock roms dont have all the optimisations that custom roms have they are definitely slower. A custom rom and kernel will surely sort out your problems
Mark.
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Thanks again!!!!
Ok cool. So when new versions of the apps come out on the market, I wont be able to update them normally will I? Which is ok but just wondering how that is going to go down. Haha.
Lastly, sorry man, I'm almost there. Haha. CWM doesn't backup kernel? Like my stock one?
So it basically makes a "phone" image, ExtPartition and all? Or can you choose these options?
Right, I'm so close now I reckon, today will be the day... I can feel it!!! Haha.
Thank you again!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

Helmet321 said:
Thanks again!!!!
Ok cool. So when new versions of the apps come out on the market, I wont be able to update them normally will I? Which is ok but just wondering how that is going to go down. Haha.
Lastly, sorry man, I'm almost there. Haha. CWM doesn't backup kernel? Like my stock one?
So it basically makes a "phone" image, ExtPartition and all? Or can you choose these options?
Right, I'm so close now I reckon, today will be the day... I can feel it!!! Haha.
Thank you again!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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Yes of course you can update google apps via the market as normal.
Cwm will back up your boot image which contains the kernel. So yes it does back up the kernel.
You can not choose which options to back up but you can choose which parts you want to restore via the advanced restore option in cwm.
Let me know how it all goes
Mark.

El Daddy said:
I just want to thank the OP for asking the right questions and taking the time to figure out how "hack" his/her phone correctly instead of jumping in blind.
I hope other beginners follow the OP's lead.
That is all.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Hey El Daddy,
Thanks man. I try to reframe from being a pain in butt.... not sure how I've gone with that but, Haha. I appreciate what your saying. I just want to be sure what I'm doing and to have, as Mark said, all the "ammo" I need.
Cheers.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

Great questions and answers from both of you. Just got this phone and trying to figure out where to start. Briefly read the toolkit instructions. Just haven't had the time to sit down and plow through it. Thanks both of you.

mskip said:
A cwm backup will back up system, data, boot, recovery and cache but it will not back up your radio image so check your version in the about phone screen first so you know what you need.
The latest gapps flashable zip can be found in the development forum. Did the youtube channel not give a link to the root files? If not then I have attached the 2 files you need to push. Make sure to set their permissions too after pushing.
Without knowing exactly what you have put on your phone its hard to comment about responsiveness but as stock roms dont have all the optimisations that custom roms have they are definitely slower. A custom rom and kernel will surely sort out your problems
Mark.
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Thanks so much again Mark...This is Great!!
Ok, just before I do this...I'm like right here at the PC...ready! haha...
I understand all of it now, well. in theory...
Thank you for the DL link to the root.zip...
I DL'd the android SDK Kit zip also, but there’s no fastboot.exe??? Or anything like what I need?? haha, I may just be missing something here...
One of you links on you manual guide is broken...I think, that’s where you had it...I didnt want to harass you again but just some final things. =)
I'm really after all of what I need to this manually...for knowledge etc?? Hope you understand... You made this wicked awesome Kit, and I'm stupid and not using it...hahah...
So as far as I can see, I need:
- Samsung Drivers - which I have and that bits done... =)
- fasboot.exe etc (Android SDK Gear)
- Latest CWM.zip
- **Rom of my choice, which I'm going to take your advice and go with Apex. =) Latest 1.02 yeah??
- Franco Kernel, I'll try stock, but my feeling on it is that that’s probably been my major issue, or the cause of most of them... =)
Phew....I think that’s it...am I on the right track??
I cant thank you enough with all this Mark....seriously...your a very patience man. haha
Cheers. =)
**Update**
P.S. I have attached a file. Mark can you check it out and see if that what I need in regards to Android SDK stuff? I just got this now after I posted the above....
Thanks again... =)
***Update...again....haha***
Arm, just looking at these files, whats the boot.img? does that get copied over to the phone? Or is it just a command? The su & Superuser files in this zip are like a different size and modified later than your ones (newer??? =/)....I'm not sure what that would really mean...probably has nothing to do with anything but just thought I'd check with you....

Helmet321 said:
Thanks so much again Mark...This is Great!!
Ok, just before I do this...I'm like right here at the PC...ready! haha...
I understand all of it now, well. in theory...
Thank you for the DL link to the root.zip...
I DL'd the android SDK Kit zip also, but there’s no fastboot.exe??? Or anything like what I need?? haha, I may just be missing something here...
One of you links on you manual guide is broken...I think, that’s where you had it...I didnt want to harass you again but just some final things. =)
I'm really after all of what I need to this manually...for knowledge etc?? Hope you understand... You made this wicked awesome Kit, and I'm stupid and not using it...hahah...
So as far as I can see, I need:
- Samsung Drivers - which I have and that bits done... =)
- fasboot.exe etc (Android SDK Gear)
- Latest CWM.zip
- **Rom of my choice, which I'm going to take your advice and go with Apex. =) Latest 1.02 yeah??
- Franco Kernel, I'll try stock, but my feeling on it is that that’s probably been my major issue, or the cause of most of them... =)
Phew....I think that’s it...am I on the right track??
I cant thank you enough with all this Mark....seriously...your a very patience man. haha
Cheers. =)
**Update**
P.S. I have attached a file. Mark can you check it out and see if that what I need in regards to Android SDK stuff? I just got this now after I posted the above....
Thanks again... =)
***Update...again....haha***
Arm, just looking at these files, whats the boot.img? does that get copied over to the phone? Or is it just a command? The su & Superuser files in this zip are like a different size and modified later than your ones (newer??? =/)....I'm not sure what that would really mean...probably has nothing to do with anything but just thought I'd check with you....
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Looks like everything in that zip is ok for what you want to do. The superuser.apk is a different size but im sure it doesnt matter.
In order to push the 2 files across to your phone you need to have booted into Android using an insecure boot image. This is a stock boot.img that has has some simple text changes to allow temporary root access (otherwise the files wouldnt copy across) Using fastboot you boot the boot.img file and then once you are in Android you push the files across and set their permissions. When you reboot your phone your original boot image will be used and you should have permanent root via the files.
Looks like you are all set
MArk.

Oh ok. So it doesn't stay on the phone?, its temporary??
So if this file say, is corrupted or malicious, (not really possible probably byt...) I'm in trouble? haha
Sorry, I have everything I think now, I grabbed the SDK of the Android website and I'm comfortable with that cause its "legit" I suppose. It doesn't have a boot.img file though. Can I make one myself so I know where its coming from? And where does this normally come from?
Silly stuff I know but, I told you, I'm CRAZY!! haha....
One very last thing...the permissions, whats that part all about...
Other than that, I'm pretty sure I'm sweet now...I also grabbed the latest CWM zip off the website too...so I'm cool with that.
......geez.... I'm killing you aren't I....I think you deserve (need) at LEAST 1 beer after all this....haha...
Thanks x 1,000,000...seriously.... =)

Helmet321 said:
Oh ok. So it doesn't stay on the phone?, its temporary??
So if this file say, is corrupted or malicious, (not really possible probably byt...) I'm in trouble? haha
Sorry, I have everything I think now, I grabbed the SDK of the Android website and I'm comfortable with that cause its "legit" I suppose. It doesn't have a boot.img file though. Can I make one myself so I know where its coming from? And where does this normally come from?
Silly stuff I know but, I told you, I'm CRAZY!! haha....
One very last thing...the permissions, whats that part all about...
Other than that, I'm pretty sure I'm sweet now...I also grabbed the latest CWM zip off the website too...so I'm cool with that.
......geez.... I'm killing you aren't I....I think you deserve (need) at LEAST 1 beer after all this....haha...
Thanks x 1,000,000...seriously.... =)
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Its perfectly possible to make your own boot image but to be honest you might take another day or 2 to get all the required components and research what you need to do lol
If you go to your settings, about phone screen and tell me the build version (4.0.1, 4.0.2) and whether its a gsm or lte device (im assuming gsm as lte is america/canada) then I will attach the boot image I made for that device so it will definitely be right and safe. You can also use the su and superuser.apk files I attached earlier if you are unsure about them.
I dont mind all the questions as long as you end up feeling confident enough to get your phone rooted mate I would rather people ask too many (but the right) questions than just go blindly into something have no understanding about and end up in trouble.
Mark.

Your a legend Mark, I swear!!....haha
Ok, well, its a GSM, 4.0.2 Samsung updated Nexus....I think... I can attach some images. =)
The end of the line here...haha, arm, I just watched a video that completely skipped the boot.img part...weird...anyway, with the "su" part, I have 2 files there, as you've kindly provided, but in that step doesnt it need to be a su.zip sort of configuration? Just running it by you before I do this...
P.S....again....haha, arm, if I'm thinking about this right, does the step with "fastboot boot boot.img" will that affect the stock image?? As I think, if I'm right you have to do that "before" you flash your recovery?? In my mind would it be right in assuming....
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash recovery
-Make a Back up (so to get all the rom, including the auto restore recovery??)
-Set SU perms...with su.zip or su+superuser.apk... (if I'm right also, this step only if you want root perms on stock?, not sure what you would do with it though, only if you want to remain this way I suppose... =/ )
Is this right??
I was reading your "manual" post and I'm a little confused...as in, you cant reboot into Android after flashing recovery (to back up) as it will delete it, but to do so, you need to reboot into Android to delete the auto recovery flash file?? And you need su perms yeah?? Am I right here, I'm probably going crazy-ier...haha cause I've been at this for 2 days...haha...
Seems the boot.img step is the same as if you would flash a su.zip...(which I dont have, only the su file (no extension) and the su.apk...) not sure if thats the same...just getting my head around it here.... =)
Maybe I'm thinking CWM will "back up" the su perms etc and affect the "stock rom"...if you back it up with the perms, wouldnt that be included?? Maybe thats were I'm getting it wrong...haha.
Finally...........serious.....
If and when you delete the auto recovery file (if that really does delete it completly, I'm probably wrong about that too...) how does it restore??
Thanks mate. =)=)
I think thats it...when I have my head around these final things...and the last couple of files...Its time.... =)=)

Helmet321 said:
Your a legend Mark, I swear!!....haha
Ok, well, its a GSM, 4.0.2 Samsung updated Nexus....I think... I can attach some images. =)
The end of the line here...haha, arm, I just watched a video that completely skipped the boot.img part...weird...anyway, with the "su" part, I have 2 files there, as you've kindly provided, but in that step doesnt it need to be a su.zip sort of configuration? Just running it by you before I do this...
P.S....again....haha, arm, if I'm thinking about this right, does the step with "fastboot boot boot.img" will that affect the stock image?? As I think, if I'm right you have to do that "before" you flash your recovery?? In my mind would it be right in assuming....
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash recovery
-Make a Back up
-Set SU perms...with su.zip or su+superuser.apk...
Is this right??
I was reading your "manual" post and I'm a little confused...as in, you cant reboot into Android after flashing recovery (to back up) as it will delete it, but to do so, you need to reboot into Android to delete the auto recovery flash file?? And you need su perms yeah?? Am I right here, I'm probably going crazy-ier...haha cause I've been at this for 2 days...haha...
Seems the boot.img step is the same as if you would flash a su.zip...(which I dont have, only the su file (no extension) and the su.apk...) not sure if thats the same...just getting my head around it here.... =)
Maybe I'm thinking CWM will "back up" the su perms etc and affect the "stock rom"...if you back it up with the perms, wouldnt that be included?? Maybe thats were I'm getting it wrong...haha.
Finally...........serious.....
If and when you delete the auto recovery file (if that really does delete it completly, I'm probably wrong about that too...) how does it restore??
Thanks mate. =)=)
I think thats it...when I have my head around these final things...and the last couple of files...Its time.... =)=)
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There are 2 ways of rooting your phone. The easier (and non learning way) is to flash cwm recovery and flash the superuser.zip straight to the phone. If this is what you watched then tbh you might as well be using my ToolKit as you wont learn anything from the experience. The other way is the method my ToolKit uses which is to boot the phone with the insecure boot image to gain temporary root, then using adb to push the 2 files that I sent to your phone and set their permissions, then rebooting to complete the root procedure. The 2nd method is the one I thought you was gearing up towards and the best way if you want to actually learn something, otherwise as I said you may as well use the ToolKit.
I have attached every file you will need for the 2nd method and if yo uread below these are the instructions you will need to follow to root your phone. Extract the attached files to a folder on your pc, browse to this folder then HOLD the Shift button on your pc while right clicking on a blank area of the Windows Explorer. Select 'Open command window here' which will open a command prompt in the correct folder where your adb and fastboot files are.
These instructions are for after you have installed drivers:
fastboot-toolkit devices
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this will return a serial number if your drivers are installed.
fastboot-toolkit oem unlock
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and follow the instructions on the phone to unlock your bootloader.
Now if you boot into Android RIGHT after unlocking the bootloader it will restart the boot half way through so you want to do this normally BEFORE using your insecure boot or the reboot half way through will lose your insecure access (if you get me)
fastboot-toolkit reboot
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to get your first boot in. Once the phone has booted up and you have gone through the setup wizard, go to settings, developer tools and select 'usb debugging' to enable adb control.
adb-toolkit devices
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should return a serial number if your adb drivers are installed.
adb-toolkit reboot bootloader
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to get back into fastboot so you can boot from the insecure boot image
fastboot-toolkit boot boot_gsm_ICL53F_insecure.img
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to boot your phone into Android from the insecrure boot image. Once your phone has booted into the lockscreen you can carry on with
adb-toolkit root
adb-toolkit remount
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to mount your /system folder for root access.
adb-toolkit push su /system/bin
adb-toolkit push Superuser.apk /system/app
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pushes the 2 files across to the correct folders on your phone.
adb-toolkit shell chmod 06755 /system/bin/su
adb-toolkit shell chmod 06755 /system/app/Superuser.apk
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sets their correct permissions.
Lastly if you are flashing cwm then you will need to rename the recovery restore file if you are on a samsung rom. If this file is present on your phone and cwm is flashed, then on the next reboot the stock recovery will be restored and you will lose cwm. To get back to stock recovery in the future you just flash a stock recovery image.
adb-toolkit shell mv /system/recovery-from-boot.p /system/recovery-from-boot.p-old
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will rename the file is it is present.
Thats it! Reboot your phone and you should have root You can check this by downloading root checker from the market or just download a root app such as adfree or setcpu.
Mark.

I see you are replying to my thread already as I was making some changes so re-read the instructions as I rearranged them a bit to make more sense lol.
MArk.

[Q] Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S

Hey Everyone,
am new to Android World and recently i bought Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S and i upgraded my Android to ICS 4.0.4 but it seems that a lot of things are still annoying ..
i've encountered several issues and i need your suggestions to fix them.
1- WiFi connection isn't stable at all, the signal is weak and am just near the router, not to mention that its always disconnecting and trying to reconnect for 10000 times and no hope till i restart the router itself.
2- i can't move all the apps into the SD and thats cause of low space on the internal memory and cause a really slow device movements.
3- Battery drain fast and a over heat the back side of the phone while using the phone.
the thing that i've read a lot about changing the KERNEL and the ROM, however i found many people suggested "Trinity Kernel V1.6 ICS" and "MooDeD ICS 90.1".
do you think that if i do change up my kernel and the ROM .. my problems will be fixed and i can at least move all my apps into the SD instead of the internal memory ??

Try reinstalling the firmware. After that, root it and use Link2SD. That should solve your memory issues anyway.
There's a well-written guide over at XperiaBlog on setting Link2SD up.
Swyped from my SE Xperia arc (LT15i) using Tapatalk 2

thanks for replying back dude ..
1st thing, can you give me some links for those guides ??
2nd thing .. what about installing the KERNEL and ROM into my device .. do you suggests them for my phone ??
bro am too newbie for this things and am trying to understands it to apply it

1. No wifi problems on stock 4.0.4...better try a custom kernel if u really want.
2. as xtacy said use link2sd
3. no..i disagree with you..battery life on stock 4.0.4 is very satisfying..I suggest you to try Arconium ROM which is a custom stock rom and very nicely tweaked. U will face heating problem when you r doing some heavy stuff like playing game or using 3G, etc..or else in normal usage it is not hot at all.
I really suggest you to try custom kernel and ROMs. trinity kernel and mooded rom has a huge battery drain problem...so i suggest you to try ArcKnight kernel or Xarc with Arconium ICS..
try it and let us know
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here is the link2sd guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26829368&postcount=3

ok first of all am going to changing the KERNEL and ROM first .. please let me know if am on the right track .. i found those links for the above you mentioned
(1)
[KERNEL][ARC/ARC S]ArcKnight Kernel RC_3.3 (TEST Versions)- ICS/ Update June 22nd!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597771
should i install ArcKnight_Kernel_RC_3.1 or the test one 3.3
whats the deference between Main Kernel and Wifi Modules for Kernel?
(2)
[ROM][ARC/ARC S] Arconium ICS 4.0 - Yep, it's here [FW:431][14 June]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1515148

if u have no plans of overcloking then try ArcKinght Main Kernel _ Stock Based CPU RC3.3
,,u will get better battery life..
main kernel is the kernel..and wifi modules is required for WIfi..thoese are to be flash through CWM recovery..
and yes that the Arconium ICS...

OK let me put all these information straight ...
1. I don't have to change the Kernel from the original one or as you called it Stock Kernel to anything else .. since its came with good performance. (frankly after reading all the installation methods and steps i was afraid to burn my phone up hehe)
2. My phone build number now is (4.1.B.0.431) Android Version (4.0.4) is good to have Arconium ICS on it immediately.
3. Installing Link2SD app will help me moving all my apps into the SD card, and not like App2SD.
if you agree with me on the above points so am going to install it ride a way and test it ..
can i ask one more favor .. is there any guides for newbies about installing ROMs or like Step-By-Step manual .. am afraid to do something wrong ..
don't hit me please .. but what do you mean by "Reboot into CWM" how to do so

although .. i've read that i need to flash the device using the provided ftf file .. but where to get the flash tool to do it ..
another thing .. is this kind of ROMs comes rooted or not ?
and is it necessarily to have a Unlocked bootloader device and how to do it tho ..
sorry guyz if am being asking a lot of questions but am still new to this .. and i really need to learn ..

musab_911 said:
OK let me put all these information straight ...
1. I don't have to change the Kernel from the original one or as you called it Stock Kernel to anything else .. since its came with good performance. (frankly after reading all the installation methods and steps i was afraid to burn my phone up hehe)
2. My phone build number now is (4.1.B.0.431) Android Version (4.0.4) is good to have Arconium ICS on it immediately.
3. Installing Link2SD app will help me moving all my apps into the SD card, and not like App2SD.
if you agree with me on the above points so am going to install it ride a way and test it ..
can i ask one more favor .. is there any guides for newbies about installing ROMs or like Step-By-Step manual .. am afraid to do something wrong ..
don't hit me please .. but what do you mean by "Reboot into CWM" how to do so
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1. You dont have to change the kernel but u will have more flexibility to choose governors and IO schedulers and phone will be pretty smooth.But if u want to stick to stock kernel then flash .431 advanced stock kernel which comes with cwm recovery.
2.yes you are good to go even if your phone had 2.3.4
3. Yes...but do not move any system apps
Flashtool is in development section...here is the order
- Flash Custom kernel(If u want stock kernel then flash .431 advanced stock kernel) and No need to flash baseband 72 as you already have
- Enter cwm recovery
-Flash ROM[before flashing rom do a clean wipe(wipe data,cache)]
-Flash wifi modules if required
- Reboot and you are done

bro am totally confused now with the steps you gave me .. am still noob into all of this and really sorry if am taking a lot of your time helping me ...
the thing is that am downloading the flashtool from this link
http://androxyde.github.com/Flashtool/
am i right on this ??
now you're telling me that it would be easier to have a custom Kernel like the ArcKnight .. so i will go for it as per your advice ..
but i need a really HUGE support to give STEP-BY-STEP guide or video which it can help me to do all the requeired actions since i dont know how to do the flash exactly and how to do the other steps and what to click on the phone ..
i've found some videos but for other Kernel and other ROM but not for the ones you suggested to me ..
is there any videos you can give me to do the whole update ??
1- Flashing the Device.
2- Install the Custom Kernel.
3- Install the Custom ROM.

yes..download the flashtool and install it and open it
- power off the phone
- hold 'back" key and plug in usb cable..u will enter fastboot mode now..it should say device in fastboot mode in flashtool also.
- now on flashtool, click on that 'lightening icon button' and select fastboot mode
- then click on "select kernel to flash" and browse the *.img file and flash it
- once successful reboot and get back here

The steps will be the same.
Mate, first thing you need to do is go through the stickied threads. Tons of guides out there.
Next, using the Search feature will provide you with your answers.
It's worth the time to read all of them. We all did.
Now if you're stuck after all that, then come and ask. We'd be happy to help.
And if you have a doubt regarding a particular kernel or ROM, post your query in the respective thread. What better way to get answers than from the developer or the user of that ROM/kernel?
Swyped from my SE Xperia arc (LT15i) using Tapatalk 2

Is it me or has every arc got a wifi signal issue, only issue is that the signal is weaker than usual same room tried with two routers walk behind the desk and the signal drops by one bar on the wifi signal thingy, two state of the art routers, what could be the problem ?

[Q] Unresponsive screen after flashing ROM/Kernel

Hello All,
First time post and as an offering, I will say 'thanks' to anyone that responds in a positive manner to my post (trying to win some friends) :laugh:
Here's my issue, I have an Arc S LT18i.
Unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Whenever I flash anything custom the touch screen fails to respond, i've flashed LupusV7, slim bean 3.1 and 3.2 (with arc fusion 3.6 and 4.5) and Super Jelly Bean. All seemingly start without any issues and the physical buttons work no problem. BUT the screen refuses to work in anyway at all!!
I have made sure I wiped the system, cache and delvak (sp?)
Any help greatly appreciated, I am a NOOB but underneath it all I'm just trying to make the most of this wonderful Arc S...
Anything you want to know, please ask away...
Please help.
Namaste
Ricky:fingers-crossed:

Try doing a clean install
- Flash stock ICS .587 ftf
- Flash Kernel
- Wipe data,cache & dalvik
- Install ROM
sent via XPERIA™

Same thing!!
msc3169 said:
Try doing a clean install
- Flash stock ICS .587 ftf
- Flash Kernel
- Wipe data,cache & dalvik
- Install ROM
sent via XPERIA™
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Hello and thank you for the reply...
I flashed stock ICS .587 (world india) from this site talk.sonymobile.com/thread/35239
Does that count as stock ICS .587?
And then followed the rest of the instructions, the exact same thing happens... buttons work but the touch screen does not!?
Any other ideas please? Or does anyone else have a suggestion?
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to me.
Ricky

ricky7D said:
Hello and thank you for the reply...
I flashed stock ICS .587 (world india) from this site talk.sonymobile.com/thread/35239
Does that count as stock ICS .587?
And then followed the rest of the instructions, the exact same thing happens... buttons work but the touch screen does not!?
Any other ideas please? Or does anyone else have a suggestion?
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to me.
Ricky
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Are you using compatible ROM and Kernel?
僕のLT18iから送られてきた

compatible ROM and Kernel
popthosegaskets said:
Are you using compatible ROM and Kernel?
僕のLT18iから送られてきた
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Hello, thanks for the reply...
According to the Slim Bean page, I can use ANY kernel with that rom. But also, if I just have the Lupusv7 Kernel on there, the touch screen doesn't work within that, so not a ROM/Kernel conflict I belive.
I've also tried other Kernel/ROM combinations, same thing keeps on happening. Touchscreen works 100% with a SE restore, stock ROM.
Any other ideas please??

ricky7D said:
Hello, thanks for the reply...
According to the Slim Bean page, I can use ANY kernel with that rom. But also, if I just have the Lupusv7 Kernel on there, the touch screen doesn't work within that, so not a ROM/Kernel conflict I belive.
I've also tried other Kernel/ROM combinations, same thing keeps on happening. Touchscreen works 100% with a SE restore, stock ROM.
Any other ideas please??
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It's best to use the recommended kernel as stated on the ROM thread. Try another kernel and see how things go.
僕のLT18iから送られてきた

You sure you installed device-specific patch / chose correct phone in AROMA?

Kernel or ROM issue?
popthosegaskets said:
It's best to use the recommended kernel as stated on the ROM thread. Try another kernel and see how things go.
僕のLT18iから送られてきた
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Hello,
As previously mentioned, the reccomended kernel is Lupusv7, When i flash this Kernel into recovery mode, all looks well but as it has a touch screen interface this still doesn't work!
I'm presuming that it cannot be a conflict as it's happen before I instll the new ROM etc... the touch screen doesn't even work within the GUI of the Lupusv7 kernel.
I can get multiple ROMS to load with different kernels but so far, none have booted with the touch screen working!!
I am very much a noob but have read loads of articles on how this should be done, unless i'm missing something very obvious which isn't stated then I dont see anyone else having this issue.
Any clues people? :good:
Thanks, Ricky

AROMA?
Someguyfromhell said:
You sure you installed device-specific patch / chose correct phone in AROMA?
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Hello Someguyfromhell,
I haven't used AROMA, the guides i've been reading haven't mentioned this!?
This is the process I went through:
flashed stock ICS ROM
flashed kernel
wipe data/cache/davlik
flashed rom
rebooted, ROM loads up and the touch screen doesn't work.
Any help you can give me on AROMA, links etc?
I'm looking right now, but a 'leg up' would be great.
Thanks for the reply.
Ricky

here what to do
- Make sure you had installed Official 4.0.4 ftf pack
- When flashing official ftf pack remember to exclude / tick these things:
1. simlock.ta (Exclude TA)
2. Kernel.sin (Exclude kernel)
3. FOTA (Exclude FOTA)
After flash successful, power on your phone and let it start completely
- Now you can start to install any ROM
1.Flash the Recommended Kernel: Vengeance , KTG Anzu , RUSH
2. Place ROM on SD card
3. Power off the phone and boot into CWM
3. Backup and restore > choose Backup
4. Wipe Data/Factory Reset
5. Mounts and storage > Format /system
6. Advanced > Wipe battery stats
7. Install zip from SD card > Choose the rom
8. if rom uses aroma Follow on screen instructions on AROMA, remember to choose "Unlocked bootloader" and also the correct kernel modules and of course the correct phone model
9. After complete installation tick "Reboot" and let the phone restart
10. Give the phone a good full charge, and enjoy ur phone !
11.THE MOST IMPORTANT THING PRESS THANKS if I helped

ricky7D said:
Hello Someguyfromhell,
I haven't used AROMA, the guides i've been reading haven't mentioned this!?
This is the process I went through:
flashed stock ICS ROM
flashed kernel
wipe data/cache/davlik
flashed rom
rebooted, ROM loads up and the touch screen doesn't work.
Any help you can give me on AROMA, links etc?
I'm looking right now, but a 'leg up' would be great.
Thanks for the reply.
Ricky
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Then did you install the device-specific patch?

ok man, you've got the same problem like me
First thing, all roms that make your touch screen doesn't work will based on cm (e.g. cm10, slim, any jb).
and ALL STOCK roms will get no problem.
There's lot of people here got this problem and still has no clue why this problem occure to ours, so sad story.
Someone says that the touch screen firmware sould be updated to the lastest version, but i don't know how.
One solution that i found is, remove the battery to turn off then turn it on to reboot again and again. If you lucky enough, the touch screen will work like a miracle!
and the success rate is also <50% ( based on my experience only)

AROMOA guide?
Someguyfromhell said:
Then did you install the device-specific patch?
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on all the ROM guides, I have never seen a part where it says i should install a device specific patch, do you have a link to where these may be?
Or even a ROM with guide where it says this? I'm very happy to follow that to get this working. I have no preference to CM10, Slim Bean, Racing Bean etc... as of yet i've not been able to use any of them.
Thanks for the continued response.
Ricky

THANK YOU
eakav said:
ok man, you've got the same problem like me
First thing, all roms that make your touch screen doesn't work will based on cm (e.g. cm10, slim, any jb).
and ALL STOCK roms will get no problem.
There's lot of people here got this problem and still has no clue why this problem occure to ours, so sad story.
Someone says that the touch screen firmware sould be updated to the lastest version, but i don't know how.
One solution that i found is, remove the battery to turn off then turn it on to reboot again and again. If you lucky enough, the touch screen will work like a miracle!
and the success rate is also <50% ( based on my experience only)
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Ah ha... sounds like you have the same problem as me!
Did you manage to get any JB ROM working? If so, which one, just so I can try that also...
Does anyone else have an idea on how to update the touch screen firmware?
Really appreciate the feedback, thank you one and all!!
Ricky

ricky7D said:
Ah ha... sounds like you have the same problem as me!
Did you manage to get any JB ROM working? If so, which one, just so I can try that also...
Ricky
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This solution is the one that i think it can move some files which related to touch screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34593771&postcount=23
But sorry, it still get sometimes for the touch screen didn't response :crying:
However, as i mentioned above; you can get ALL jb rom working :fingers-crossed:
But depends on your luck. Just turn it off when the touch screen didn't response, then turn it on again (and again) untill it work.
I hoped that the new linux kernel will solve this...

No touch
eakav said:
This solution is the one that i think it can move some files which related to touch screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34593771&postcount=23
But sorry, it still get sometimes for the touch screen didn't response :crying:
However, as i mentioned above; you can get ALL jb rom working :fingers-crossed:
But depends on your luck. Just turn it off when the touch screen didn't response, then turn it on again (and again) untill it work.
I hoped that the new linux kernel will solve this...
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I have same issue have tried many stock based roms and kernels no problem but any CM based rom I have no touchscreen.
You can reboot and about 1 in 5 times it will work
Maybe it only affects certain versions of the phone. I even tried re-locking bootloader and doing official sony update then tried CM again I tried 7.1,9 and 10
same problem.

Here's where I am...
UPDATE:
So, here is where I am. Using advice from previous replies I have managed to install Xperia Ultimate HD and this is working off of the Lupus kernel without any issues. I'm still unable to get ANY Jelly Bean roms working...
Maybe my device will just not work on JB :crying:
Any other tips or tricks are greatly appreciated, would love to get JB working on here my beloved Arc S.
Ricky :good:

Any news here?
I have the same issue over here with a colleagues LT18i

I have same problem, touch screen doesn't work on many different kernels... only work on stock kernel

Any news about this problem?

Feeling a little lost here.

So i finally got my Xperia Play R800i and unlocked it. So now i have full fastboot access (which i havnt used much in the past so im a little rusty). While browsing the forums for Clockwork mod and roms and kernels i find myself having a few problems. I cant find clockwork mod (does it exist for this phone? or TWRP?) and also I have NO idea which rom to choose and there are SOOO many. I could really use a little run down and some recommendations here. Anything would be great

HaiKaiDo said:
So i finally got my Xperia Play R800i and unlocked it. So now i have full fastboot access (which i havnt used much in the past so im a little rusty). While browsing the forums for Clockwork mod and roms and kernels i find myself having a few problems. I cant find clockwork mod (does it exist for this phone? or TWRP?) and also I have NO idea which rom to choose and there are SOOO many. I could really use a little run down and some recommendations here. Anything would be great
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As an XDA rule you can't post asking for recommendations of ROMs/kernels (otherwise thread will be closed) u are beet trying them out for yourself. But if u want gaming you should stick with GingerBread. With XP u can't flash recoveries they are built into the kernels ramdisk. Yes there is TWRP but common problem with TWRP is not backing up of android secure.

wedgess said:
As an XDA rule you can't post asking for recommendations of ROMs/kernels (otherwise thread will be closed) u are beet trying them out for yourself. But if u want gaming you should stick with GingerBread. With XP u can't flash recoveries they are built into the kernels ramdisk. Yes there is TWRP but common problem with TWRP is not backing up of android secure.
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Lol I just knew someone was going to rules me on the "dont ask about roms its bad 4 u". Theres so many threads for roms.....im not going to be able to try them all, and some of them are broken or not worth flashing. I just wanted some info because ive never owned a sony device and this one has so many caveats that one would only know from either being here from the beginning or getting advice. pardon if i seem to be rude, im just confused and trying to get a feel for how this device works. If i cant flash recoveries how do i flash things? Fastboot(can you flash roms with fasboot??) how do i know if a kernel is antiquated and will break things? Flashtool also seems confusing to me. And again as far as asking about which roms people suggest I wasnt asking for "whats the best? Flame on!" which is what that rule is there to prevent. I simple asked for a recommendation as i have no foundry or basis of where to start. I know im one of a hundred people that has asked and will ask these questions....but isnt that what were here for?

HaiKaiDo said:
Lol I just knew someone was going to rules me on the "dont ask about roms its bad 4 u". Theres so many threads for roms.....im not going to be able to try them all, and some of them are broken or not worth flashing. I just wanted some info because ive never owned a sony device and this one has so many caveats that one would only know from either being here from the beginning or getting advice. pardon if i seem to be rude, im just confused and trying to get a feel for how this device works. If i cant flash recoveries how do i flash things? Fastboot(can you flash roms with fasboot??) how do i know if a kernel is antiquated and will break things? Flashtool also seems confusing to me. And again as far as asking about which roms people suggest I wasnt asking for "whats the best? Flame on!" which is what that rule is there to prevent. I simple asked for a recommendation as i have no foundry or basis of where to start. I know im one of a hundred people that has asked and will ask these questions....but isnt that what were here for?
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I'm not flaming, if you took it that way it is not the intended purpose. I'm just saying "recommendations for ROM's" can be preceived as asking for the best ROM by some users, which will then mean your thread will be closed. A good place to see which ROMs/Kernels others are using is this thread in general http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235336. Anyway to what you are asking. Flashtool may look a bit daunting, but is one of the easiest tools to use.
RC fma has some good guides. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054486 - will help you with flashing an FTF (flashmode)
or this one For flashing kernel and custom ROMs. -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054512.
To get recovery on your device you must flash a kernel first via fastboot mode (refer to the guide above). Then you can flash a ROM via CWM or TWRP as you usually would.

Hey I really appreciate the info and feedback. This device feels so foreign to me for some reason but I think I'm starting to get the hang of it. Installed doomkernel14 with fastboot then figured out the weird tap back key to get into recovery. And now I'm on a GB ROM that is so much faster than stock. Coming into a old phone that's new to you is kinda like coming into the last 5 minutes of a class before a test hah.

HaiKaiDo said:
Hey I really appreciate the info and feedback. This device feels so foreign to me for some reason but I think I'm starting to get the hang of it. Installed doomkernel14 with fastboot then figured out the weird tap back key to get into recovery. And now I'm on a GB ROM that is so much faster than stock. Coming into a old phone that's new to you is kinda like coming into the last 5 minutes of a class before a test hah.
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No worries. Ye its actually easier then any other device I own (non-Sony). Ye it depends on kernel. Mine u need to press vol down for CWM and volume up for TWRP. Also a heads up, in case u ever flash one of my kernels. U will need to flash phoenix_vendor.ftf to have unlocked vendor partitions. This is to accommodate for custom partitions. Basically /system and /cache are shrunk to give 600mb+ storage in data.
U will need to flash the phoenix-vendor.ftf first then in fast boot
Code:
fastboot erase userdata && fastboot erase system
Then boot to recovery and flash ROM as usual. Sounds a bit daunting but isn't at all. I'd recommend that if u bought the device for gaming stick with GingerBread, welcome to and enjoy the XP forums.
Edit - A link to the vendor-unlocked.ftf for R800i/a/at http://www.mediafire.com/?ff4ofcwdfpq85d3

wedgess said:
No worries. Ye its actually easier then any other device I own (non-Sony). Ye it depends on kernel. Mine u need to press vol down for CWM and volume up for TWRP. Also a heads up, in case u ever flash one of my kernels. U will need to flash phoenix_vendor.ftf to have unlocked vendor partitions. This is to accommodate for custom partitions. Basically /system and /cache are shrunk to give 600mb+ storage in data.
U will need to flash the phoenix-vendor.ftf first then in fast boot
Code:
fastboot erase userdata && fastboot erase system
Then boot to recovery and flash ROM as usual. Sounds a bit daunting but isn't at all. I'd recommend that if u bought the device for gaming stick with GingerBread, welcome to and enjoy the XP forums.
Edit - A link to the vendor-unlocked.ftf for R800i/a/at http://www.mediafire.com/?ff4ofcwdfpq85d3
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Right now im using AtoMic GB - PLAY r2 and i reallly like it (along with DooMKerneL14). One thing that i wonder if you could help me with tho. No matter what I do when im in an emulator the circle button always takes me out of the emulator. Any way to actually have it just work like normal? It didnt do that on stock from what i remember. Also what is all that Vendor ftf stuff? Is there a thread that explains any of that stuff? Thanks again!

only flash the vendor-unlocked ftf when needed. vendor is a usually locked partition. with ics it got unlocked and more space for the rom and kernel was there.
it's hard to find the right one for oneself. look in every thread and it's features, check the comments if no serious problems are accuring (well you can't really count on them) and try it.
ask yourself first: what features do you really -need-
about the circle-button issue: can be emulator related. some aren't optimized for the play (circle is in fact nearly the same as the back-button - just with an ALT modifier) try another one (hint: retroarch r16)
it also can be the rom (wrong build.prop entries or the keylayout files are not right).

In this case its the rom because other people reported the same problem. Anyways I'd recommend you use xperia nxt 2 r1. It has a similar look and no bugs that I noticed. (Emulators play fine) everything works
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)

Thanks guys I just used all the rest of my thanks for the day. Also thanks for telling about that issue with that ROM in particular I hadnt even seen that which is a shame because that rom is perfect otherwise hah. Ill go try that other one. Thanks!

abdel12345 said:
In this case its the rom because other people reported the same problem. Anyways I'd recommend you use xperia nxt 2 r1. It has a similar look and no bugs that I noticed. (Emulators play fine) everything works
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
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EDIT: Answered all my own questions hah. This rom has an odd problem with Super Gnes though. It doesnt want to search my SD card to find all my roms. It just sits there which is kinda odd. Also RetroArch still doesnt want to use the O button properly which is weird lol. Thanks again!

HaiKaiDo said:
EDIT: Answered all my own questions hah. This rom has an odd problem with Super Gnes though. It doesnt want to search my SD card to find all my roms. It just sits there which is kinda odd. Also RetroArch still doesnt want to use the O button properly which is weird lol. Thanks again!
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retroarch use the newest version from here: http://forum.themaister.net/viewtopic.php?id=235
download: http://themaister.net/retroarch-dl/android/org.retroarch.browser.RetroArch.r16.apk
play store was usually not up to date
if us get used to the menus it's awesome. plays everything (tested sega genesis, snes, fba, pcsx (!) on full speed (even on ics))

konstruktor said:
retroarch use the newest version from here: http://forum.themaister.net/viewtopic.php?id=235
download: http://themaister.net/retroarch-dl/android/org.retroarch.browser.RetroArch.r16.apk
play store was usually not up to date
if us get used to the menus it's awesome. plays everything (tested sega genesis, snes, fba, pcsx (!) on full speed (even on ics))
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Cool ill grab that now. Thanks man

konstruktor said:
retroarch use the newest version from here: http://forum.themaister.net/viewtopic.php?id=235
download: http://themaister.net/retroarch-dl/android/org.retroarch.browser.RetroArch.r16.apk
play store was usually not up to date
if us get used to the menus it's awesome. plays everything (tested sega genesis, snes, fba, pcsx (!) on full speed (even on ics))
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Well this is weird. Downloaded the newest version and it STILL exits the game when I hit the O button on all the emulators. What a bummer

HaiKaiDo r newbz. dont mind him.

[Q] How do I improve battery life ie what tweaks work?

I'm using Snipers PACMAN, and battery just seems to drain way to fast. It is the latest push. Being newly registered on here I hate to introduce my self this way but I need advice. What tweaks are being used by people for the SPH-D710 to help with this issue? I originally started with the CM 10.1 rom and found I had no data, flashed a different modem. Still no data, switched roms and now have data....go figure! But the battery drain is killing me, I've got it throttled back as far as I can go and it still be a daily driver. So anyone have any suggestions?

Godlys Comadose Tweak pack works great:thumbup:
Give it a shot and thank him while you're over there...here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39080082

OK....now I'm lost as to which to try and use.....reading the posts to the provided links seems to give contradictory information as to where to start this journey.....
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

Most 4.2 Roms use ICS modems. As for battery us betterbatterystats found here on xda or gsam in the play store to determine if there's any rogue apps keeping the phone from sleeping. I also do manual syncing. Greenify is a great app to keep apps from running on their own. You can also use a custom kernel to limit max frequency and even undervolt. Kernels also come with different governors
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

godzilla61 said:
OK....now I'm lost as to which to try and use.....reading the posts to the provided links seems to give contradictory information as to where to start this journey.....
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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Try the latest version....2.1

Anybody on this thread know anything about the pegasusq governer or how to implement it/install it?

rapman543 said:
Anybody on this thread know anything about the pegasusq governer or how to implement it/install it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24233103&postcount=3
Read...Read...Read
After reading through the above posts you should have some useful ideas about what this governor does.Also...as for installing a governor, they will be included in the kernel that flashed with ur rom or a kernal of ur choosing(MAKE SURE IT WILL WORK WITH THE ROM YOU HAVE) Im new to this, so if there is another way I dont know about it. Do ur research... As for setting a governor.. There are many roms with built in performance controls as well as many apps to set them. I suggest (set cpu) . It has a setting that will make a zip so u can recover from ur settings if u bootloop. This is found after u install and give it root permission. Hit ur menu button and click SAFE MODE. You should have a nandroid; always and just because.I hope this helps.. Remember...Read...Read...Read..lol.. Good Luck.Also read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005306

Gil81 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...03&postcount=3
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After reading through the above post you should have some useful ideas about what this governor does.Also...as for installing a governor, they will be included in the kernel that flashed with ur rom or a kernal of ur choosing(MAKE SURE IT WILL WORK WITH THE ROM YOU HAVE) Im new to this, so if there is another way I dont know about it. Do ur research... As for setting a governor.. There are many roms with built in performance controls as well as many apps to set them. I suggest (set cpu) . It has a setting that will make a zip so u can recover from ur settings if u bootloop. This is found after u install and give it root permission. Hit ur menu button and click SAFE MODE. You should have a nandroid; always and just because.I hope this helps.. Remember...Read...Read...Read..lol.. Good Luck.
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You identify yourself as "new to this" but you nailed this post 110%!! Many people would do well to take what you said here to heart. If they did there would be MANY fewer "help me" threads.

CyberpodS2 said:
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You identify yourself as "new to this" but you nailed this post 110%!! Many people would do well to take what you said here to heart. If they did there would be MANY fewer "help me" threads.
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Thank You...... I went ahead and added another link for him to read. I hope it helps. As to what you said, I like to think of myself as the poster child for the search button..lol..I think if you do the research it makes you feel better when it works and it is more likely to stick with you. This site is so great about that because there is just so much knowledge here to learn.I think some people get over-whelmed by it though or they are just unsure and need that go ahead push to know it works.

Ok since I can't ask a Dev a question about the kernel I want to install.....which I kinda understand, but being stuck not being able to ask questions about something specific after reading all the pages blows! (rant off) [Kernel] Lightning Zap! Phase 4 Updated 15JUN13 is causing a boot loop, I followed all the instructions to the letter, crossed every T, dotted all the I's. Thank god for backup! Since I can't ask the Dev a question I'm stuck!

godzilla61 said:
Ok since I can't ask a Dev a question about the kernel I want to install.....which I kinda understand, but being stuck not being able to ask questions about something specific after reading all the pages blows! (rant off) [Kernel] Lightning Zap! Phase 4 Updated 15JUN13 is causing a boot loop, I followed all the instructions to the letter, crossed every T, dotted all the I's. Thank god for backup! Since I can't ask the Dev a question I'm stuck!
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Well, you're commenting on a thread about battery life, but not posting about battery life. That's not going to help you much.
I also read that you want to ask a question, but I don't see a question in your post. If you do have a question, a great place to post it would be here: [Official] One Stop FAQ Thread - Noob Friendly (All questions go here). Okay? :good:

erikalin said:
Well, you're commenting on a thread about battery life, but not posting about battery life. That's not going to help you much.
I also read that you want to ask a question, but I don't see a question in your post. If you do have a question, a great place to post it would be here: [Official] One Stop FAQ Thread - Noob Friendly (All questions go here). Okay? :good:
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Well let me clarify it for you, it's my thread. The original question is still valid being as I was pointed this direction by a reply to my original post. Let me lessen your confusion on this matter......What other steps can I take to increase battery life......scripts didn't seem to help and a tweaked kernel put me in a boot loop....and whom do I ask if not the DEV?

godzilla61 said:
Well let me clarify it for you, it's my thread. The original question is still valid being as I was pointed this direction by a reply to my original post. Let me lessen your confusion on this matter......What other steps can I take to increase battery life......scripts didn't seem to help and a tweaked kernel put me in a boot loop....and whom do I ask if not the DEV?
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Hey bro, easy on the tone. Because there are so many ways to ask the question, the best way is to just spell it out how you did above. Battery life depends on the apps/ROM/user all at the same time. I am on Project X ROM. It has Crossbreeder installed. Now I am not no where informative about that app other than a lot of people like it. So with that being said and it is installed on the ROM, I leave it. I also have ROM Toolbox Pro. I have adjusted my CPU control to 1000MHZ. I also have DS Battery Saver Pro set to custom and to kill all apps when the screen goes off. Last the ROM I am on comes with Greenify. A great app in saving battery. I also turn off data and only have WIFI on when I need it. No need to just let things run. With that I have had 50% battery life left after 11 hrs. That is my setup and may not work for you. The main thing is to understand that battery life for EACH phone is different no matter how many common denominators people may have. Team Venum did a comparison of ROM's and their respective battery life. I don't know the post, but if you type "battery life" in the search, then I am sure you can find it. As for you response, I was in your shoes at one time. It does help to be specific in your questions. Not saying that you weren't. Reading each and every post will get tiresome, but if you type in what you want in the search, you will get a slew of post to get info. I have only been a member for 4 months, but I have learned how to flash a ROM, Mods, push and app, setup custom home screen. I have even been given the honor of testing a ROM. If you still need help, you can PM me and I will do what I can. Have a great one.

godzilla61 said:
Ok since I can't ask a Dev a question about the kernel I want to install.....which I kinda understand, but being stuck not being able to ask questions about something specific after reading all the pages blows! (rant off) [Kernel] Lightning Zap! Phase 4 Updated 15JUN13 is causing a boot loop, I followed all the instructions to the letter, crossed every T, dotted all the I's. Thank god for backup! Since I can't ask the Dev a question I'm stuck!
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Its fine,you can rant here...lol..Ok ,I need more info.....
rom you're try to use with lz kernal
how you went about flashing said kernel
did you have any other tweaks or mods flashed before flashing lzp_4
All of this info is important, so I can tell you what is wrong....Thanks..

Gil81 said:
Its fine,you can rant here...lol..Ok ,I need more info.....
rom you're try to use with lz kernal
how you went about flashing said kernel
did you have any other tweaks or mods flashed before flashing lzp_4
All of this info is important, so I can tell you what is wrong....Thanks..
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Thanks Gil, this is exactly what I have done.
1. flashed from 4.03 to WILD-FOR-THE-NIGHT-07052013-d710, had no data....tried to find a fix for that...gave up after trying tweaks to help with the battery issue and no data.
2. Clean install of d710_PAC_JB_4.2.2-v23.0.0_20130719-015400, now have intermittent data, wifi works, blutooth works, flashed Fl24 modem with no apparent improvement in data connectivity, thought after reading a kernel flash might fix issues, here comes the boot loop....flashed smdk4412_p4 waited patiently for 2hrs watching Pacman chasing ghosts.....booted into recovery and ran my backup tried it 2 more times on clean flashs gave up after 5 hrs. By clean I mean wipe/reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, install from zip.
3. this is how I installed the kernel:
Make a backup
Download .zip to PC
Transfer .zip to sdcard
Reboot to recovery
Flash
Phone automatically rebooted after install
waited and waited......boot back into recovery. restore by backup.
everything has been done with CWM based recovery. I'm stumped....frustrated to no end......

godzilla61 said:
Thanks Gil, this is exactly what I have done.
1. flashed from 4.03 to WILD-FOR-THE-NIGHT-07052013-d710, had no data....tried to find a fix for that...gave up after trying tweaks to help with the battery issue and no data.
2. Clean install of d710_PAC_JB_4.2.2-v23.0.0_20130719-015400, now have intermittent data, wifi works, blutooth works, flashed Fl24 modem with no apparent improvement in data connectivity, thought after reading a kernel flash might fix issues, here comes the boot loop....flashed smdk4412_p4 waited patiently for 2hrs watching Pacman chasing ghosts.....booted into recovery and ran my backup tried it 2 more times on clean flashs gave up after 5 hrs. By clean I mean wipe/reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, install from zip.
3. this is how I installed the kernel:
Make a backup
Download .zip to PC
Transfer .zip to sdcard
Reboot to recovery
Flash
Phone automatically rebooted after install
waited and waited......boot back into recovery. restore by backup.
everything has been done with CWM based recovery. I'm stumped....frustrated to no end......
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First off...I have had the lzp_4 boot loop on me. I pulled the battery,waited about 2 min. Put it back in and booted to recovery. Then I wiped cache and dalvik. Rebooted and it took off(booted fine). I have no idea why or how, but this worked for me. Now to my main concern. If you came straight from ics to a jb rom I think this is going to cause you issues, if you hadn't been on jb before. I suggest the one - click full restore(it wipes data,so back-up you're internal memory).This will get you're phone partition right for jb. After this. I think you should be able to flash what you want with no problems. I didn't see a problem with how you flashed. Wipe cache and dalvik on the kernal flashes you do.Here's the link for the one -click..
go to linked page and click on download ota at top of page
I would read through the page it sends you to well.Don't forget to thank those guys..Hope this helps.Hit me up if it doesn't.
.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148072

Doing a one click restore worries me, I'm not on sprint any more and worried about losing my flash to my current carrier. Is this a concern I should have since I'm not used to working with odin? I'm more than willing to try another ROM also, I'm not locked into this by any means.....

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Doing a one click restore worries me, I'm not on sprint any more and worried about losing my flash to my current carrier. Is this a concern I should have since I'm not used to working with odin? I'm more than willing to try another ROM also, I'm not locked into this by any means.....
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The carrier should not matter if you are on an E4GT phone. But if your trying to go to a JB ROM, you will need to aupdate to GB** for your phone. For sprint it is GB27. Have you tried RWilco12's repository to see if your carrier is listed? Also QBKing77 has a lot of videos concerning this specific phone. How to flash specific ROMs and upgrading specific build, modems and such. Something has got to work for you.

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bigmike6200 said:
The carrier should not matter if you are on an E4GT phone. But if your trying to go to a JB ROM, you will need to aupdate to GB** for your phone. For sprint it is GB27. Have you tried RWilco12's repository to see if your carrier is listed? Also QBKing77 has a lot of videos concerning this specific phone. How to flash specific ROMs and upgrading specific build, modems and such. Something has got to work for you.
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Well now I'm stuck on Sprints 4G boot screen just keeps looping.....WTH.....I've never had a phone be a pain like this....guess I let it kill the battery and see what happens. Recovery is there, not cwm so can't even restore my backup. I'm just frustrated by this phone! Gill, bigmike any idea which way to turn now?

godzilla61 said:
Well now I'm stuck on Sprints 4G boot screen just keeps looping.....WTH.....I've never had a phone be a pain like this....guess I let it kill the battery and see what happens. Recovery is there, not cwm so can't even restore my backup. I'm just frustrated by this phone! Gill, bigmike any idea which way to turn now?
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What ROM did you flash? Was it ICS or Jellybean? What carrier are you on. That was never revealed.
Never kill the battery. I sed you tried" Wild for the night" and Pac something. Can you get to recovery?
X'ed out the game