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[Q] WTF is "HTC Loggers" and why won't it force close?

I searched the forums, I searched google. There is no answer, but maybe my Google-fu isn't good enough.
Note: This is included with the new EVO update. It always runs in the foreground and there is nothing you can do to kill it.
Does anyone know what HTC Loggers is? These are the permissions you must allow it:
Location - Fine (GPS) location
Development tools - enable application debugging limit number of running processes, make all background applications close
Network communication - full internet access
Storage - modify/delete SD card contents
System tools - Display system-level alerts, make application always run, prevent phone from sleeping, read system log files
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I already am rooted (S-OFF) and I want to freeze the app with Titanium. I want to know if anyone else has frozen/deleted it and with what effects. Also, WTF is this app?

It is sort of like catlog. When you unhide it and run it it gives you a list of available logs to view.... eg radio/wimax/system/application.
I assume you are running the latest OTA to be seeing this?
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Yeah, I am running the latest OTA. Can I freeze it in Titanium App? I don't like the idea that at any time my radio usage can be sent to HTC or whoever gets the information.

such assholes
you know, I like HTC but this is bull****... I just froze the app in Titanium (yes rooted) and it STILL was running, so I chuck norris'd it's ass
DON"T DO THAT
it freaks out and tries like twice per second to load the loggers app. f*k.
so apparently there's some other process that's constantly trying to load/communicate with it.
and yes, it is logging - my gps icon keeps popping up every few seconds, wasting my f*king battery
SERIOUSLY WTF

noticed it too yesterday on phone. what is it exactly tracking?

It's reasons like this that make me love AOSP. No Sprint or HTC crap on my phone.

it tracks any bugs or force closes on your phone. Nothing bad.

aimbdd said:
it tracks any bugs or force closes on your phone. Nothing bad.
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It probably tracks what porn sites you visit too.

HOW do you unhide it to see the logs?

aimbdd said:
it tracks any bugs or force closes on your phone. Nothing bad.
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Nothing bad??? Muahahahahahhh!!!!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/01/massive-security-vulnerability-in-htc-android-devices-evo-3d-4g-thunderbolt-others-exposes-phone-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/

+1 on above post, also look here ... http://infectedrom.com/showthread.php/559-Vunerability-1-Android-Security-Elevation
don't forget to wipe..

There's a thread in the evo3d android developmemt forum by TrevE that extensively covers this subject.
Its an eye opener.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1247108
~ I'm a fungi

Applications?

Why don't all app's have a exit or close? Take Facebook for instance once, you load that app it stays open no way to close it and taking up battery. Is there a app so you can have theses close.
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For crying out loud, search a little. You have a rooted device running Leo Droid and yet NO IDEA how Android manages applications? There are a plethora of task killers (-> google it) around, but also everybody knows they are not needed (-> google it).
Don't get me wrong, I know that not knowing stuff is a perfectly natural thing for a human being (after all, I am a teacher). But in this day and age of information being readily available at the click of your mouse (Google et consortes, this forum's "Search" button...) you still need someone to find/type in the answer to YOUR QUESTION so that you get it on a platter... Sigh.

shankly1985 said:
Why don't all app's have a exit or close? Take Facebook for instance once, you load that app it stays open no way to close it and taking up battery. Is there a app so you can have theses close.
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Read this right away!
Multitasking the Android Way
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
P.S Do NOT use any of those task killers on your 2.1 or later versions of Android phone!
Cheers!

Concerning Facebook I totally understand his complain. Even with disabled notifications and "leaving" the app via backbutton it is listed as the highest battery-consumer (under*#*#4636#*#* --> battery usage while idle).
Since I didn't find a solution for that I uninstalled Facebook. But the other guys are right, as long as an app is programmed well, it does nothing in background and sleeps. No need to close apps or free RAM. Free RAM is always a sign of bad memory management in the OS so keep it filled up as it will speed up your phone!
Ge...ta...ta...tapatalked mit meinem Desire

Thanks facebook is high battery consumer, never used a task killer and I never will.
elburna said:
Concerning Facebook I totally understand his complain. Even with disabled notifications and "leaving" the app via backbutton it is listed as the highest battery-consumer (under*#*#4636#*#* --> battery usage while idle).
Since I didn't find a solution for that I uninstalled Facebook. But the other guys are right, as long as an app is programmed well, it does nothing in background and sleeps. No need to close apps or free RAM. Free RAM is always a sign of bad memory management in the OS so keep it filled up as it will speed up your phone!
Ge...ta...ta...tapatalked mit meinem Desire
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I have installed the facebook-app and it is no battery drainer for me.
Go to chat, then menu -> go offline.

if the app is closed then it won't sync up itself will it? (or if it does it'll just restart itself again).
say you have facebook to sync each hour - I thought the hour was from open...
so open check news feed, back out of it (facebook still running), after running for an hour it will check again and notify you if you have notifications on...
The only thing that does seem to annoy me slightly is when I open improved email it seems to open a whole host of other apps at the same time, including soundhound, stocks, maps, and about 10 other things... no idea why as it doesn't need those apps opening at all

**AMAZING APP** Autostarts (Still useful, let me know your thoughts)

After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.

h20wakebum said:
After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.
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Why not just get root explorer and delete them?

WhiteWidows said:
Why not just get root explorer and delete them?
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Try it... A lot of them are processes that cannot be deleted.
Besides...
It isn't about deleting apps.
It's about controlling when an app will start (or when it's triggered to start) based off actions.
Why do I need app x,y, z starting when i send a text message? Answer... I don't...
From the market:
Keep control over your phone: See what applications do behind your back.
Shows you what apps run on phone startup, and what other events trigger in the background. Root users can disable unwanted autostarts and speed up their phone boot.
Note: Root-Access *is* required to make changes. Otherwise, this application will be read-only.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en

Titanium back up and just freeze them, but I did use ths app and it did make bit up time faster on my evo
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jhgti said:
Titanium back up and just freeze them, but I did use ths app and it did make bit up time faster on my evo
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Let me rephrase as I'm not making my point (sorry!!).
Google Maps will start at bootup... also when you change connectivity on your device.
I only want Maps open when I open it...
This app lets you prevent things from opening based off certain events (boot up, outgoing sms, incoming call, connectivity change, etc).
So freezing or deleting would remove the app that you might otherwise want.
Hope that makes sense.

Oh i see yes that is true some apps will come on as soon as connectivity changes, If find good settings post some screen shot and i will do the same

h20wakebum said:
After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.
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This is a VERY handy app. thanks loads. this is definitely a function that android should incorporate stock like they did with task killer

I purchased this app back when I first got my evo and I am now using it with my ET. It is a very handy app to have.

no Facebook notifications :-(

Hi together,
Within Facebook I configured an auto-sync and receive notifications but I do not get them :-(
tried already to de-install and install but did not help.
latest Facebook version is installed.
Does it work for anybody?
Thanks and cheers,
alkorsi

Enter facebook, menu, account,account settings, facebook notification, push notifications-select
Enter facebook, menu, account, app setings, notification, -select, vibrate-select, phone led-select

it´s all selected ;-) but doesn´t work! :-(

alkorsi said:
it´s all selected ;-) but doesn´t work! :-(
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The memory settings are quite aggressive on sense, its likely killing facebook service.
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treebill said:
The memory settings are quite aggressive on sense, its likely killing facebook service.
and what does it mean or how to solve it? ;-)
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alkorsi said:
treebill said:
The memory settings are quite aggressive on sense, its likely killing facebook service.
and what does it mean or how to solve it? ;-)
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by default sense has very aggressive memory management meanng it will close apps quite quickly there are some app on play and as a mod on the forums, to improve it.
but before that have you tried unticking and reticking the box? clearing cache/data of FB or reinstalling it?
I have no memory management tweaks and i am getting them just fine :/
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Does nobody else face this issue? :-( Do you get FB notifications in your taskbar?
cheers,
alkorsi

I don't get them either, but I didn't get them on the SGS2 either, so not sure if I'm supposed to get them.
I get a notification via tapatalk though when someone sends me a private message. - so, not every process gets killed.
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What kind of notifications do you miss?
Perhaps you should activate them yourself, on your fb groups you should visit the group and turn on notifications to get them, for IM you game messenger perhaps (no problem there I think?)
You can also check the refresh interval @settings on your Facebook app if it is high then you won't get notifications so often.
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all kind of notifications - new posts, accepted friends...
slink21 said:
...on your fb groups you should visit the group and turn on notifications to get them...
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where to check - within the app or within FB itself?

This is an Android issue....the only way I solved it myself was get access to a blackberry (yeah I know) or the virtual Blackberry software for windows.
Once logged in to Facebook log straight back out, you only need it for a minute, then go to Facebook on a PC, account settings and then apps I believe, in there somewhere will be Facebook for Blackberry, allow this access and that's it!
Its a bit fiddly but it solved it for me!
If you Google the right thing you will find a step by step guide, sorry I did this a year ago, so its all from memory :-\
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maverick1103 said:
This is an Android issue....the only way I solved it myself was get access to a blackberry (yeah I know) or the virtual Blackberry software for windows.
Once logged in to Facebook log straight back out, you only need it for a minute, then go to Facebook on a PC, account settings and then apps I believe, in there somewhere will be Facebook for Blackberry, allow this access and that's it!
Its a bit fiddly but it solved it for me!
If you Google the right thing you will find a step by step guide, sorry I did this a year ago, so its all from memory :-\
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I can confirm this. When I was still using my Galaxy S2 and lacked notifications for Facebook, I used the virtual blackberry software for windows from the RIM site, and logged in on facebook with that to fix the problem. It's been mentioned a few times before.

this is an well-known issue and affecting majority of Android devices, there are two workarounds
1. use MB Notifications for Facebook from Android Market
2. try the Blackberry FB tricks here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386394
I used the 2nd method and it works like a charm

zellfan8 said:
this is an well-known issue and affecting majority of Android devices, there are two workarounds
1. use MB Notifications for Facebook from Android Market
2. try the Blackberry FB tricks here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386394
I used the 2nd method and it works like a charm
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Or use Friendcaster (or Friendcaster Pro) from the market.
I get all notifications with no problem by using this app and it has a push setting too (although it is still a bit buggy atm)

treebill said:
alkorsi said:
by default sense has very aggressive memory management meanng it will close apps quite quickly there are some app on play and as a mod on the forums, to improve it.
but before that have you tried unticking and reticking the box? clearing cache/data of FB or reinstalling it?
I have no memory management tweaks and i am getting them just fine :/
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Same here. I've received Facebook notifications fine.
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zellfan8 said:
this is an well-known issue and affecting majority of Android devices, there are two workarounds
1. use MB Notifications for Facebook from Android Market
2. try the Blackberry FB tricks here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386394
I used the 2nd method and it works like a charm
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Yep i tried the 2nd method as well about three days ago and now works perfectly.
Pretty roundabout method but it works

Hi,
Many thanks for this BB workaround - I tried it and it works
Cheers,
alkorsi

Screen Overlay Detected

If this is in the wrong thread then please move to correct one.
Has anyone else had issues with this... I'll call it problem, but by the way it behaves, it seems more like its a bug.
It has only been something I've seen on Marshmallow. Try to install an app, and its 50/50 whether or not you get "screen overlay detected"
Try to give an app permission, "screen overlay detected".
I should also point out that it isnt just restricted to HTC. My partners (now apparently ticking time bomb) s7 has also had the issue
You can disable as many screen overlays as you like, it still doesnt go away.
I've noticed now, too, that anytime a chat head from facebook messenger is on screen when I try to do something like install an app, it will spit out that problem until I close the chat head. Which was never an issue, ever, before.
Where has this thing come from and why is it even a problem for Android?

Those chat heads on the messenger as well as light filters, as e.g. CF.lumen, are always screen overlays. Those overlays could read out the whole screen, and thus as well what you're typing into banking apps or similar. Thus Google updated the privacy policy of their devices in Marshmallow, ending up in this specific error message. Sometimes it's enough to just turn the screen overlay of via settings > apps, regarding Apps like FB Messenger, CF.lumen, and the like, on other times and Apps you got to reboot the device after done so, or disable the overlay within the Apps settings as well, and seldomly you got to uninstall such an App to get the problem sorted for the time being. At least that's what I could find out searching the web.
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silegeek said:
Where has this thing come from and why is it even a problem for Android?
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It's so malicious apps don't replace the install button with something else (like an install button to install something else).
It's quite clever if you think about it.

Lambo_car16 said:
It's so malicious apps don't replace the install button with something else (like an install button to install something else).
It's quite clever if you think about it.
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In theory I would say it's clever. In practice, it doesn't distinguish between safe apps that are harmless and those that aren't.

silegeek said:
In theory I would say it's clever. In practice, it doesn't distinguish between safe apps that are harmless and those that aren't.
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How does the system know if an app is safe or not..?
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Lambo_car16 said:
How does the system know if an app is safe or not..?
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Since Facebook messenger (and pretty much all my apps, most of which don't even have screen overlays but are in the list for it) was downloaded from Google play, I would imagine it isn't difficult to implement a system that flags it as safe.
If an app is installed via an apk, even if it is safe, I would understand more the need for concern. You never know, etc.

silegeek said:
Since Facebook messenger (and pretty much all my apps, most of which don't even have screen overlays but are in the list for it) was downloaded from Google play, I would imagine it isn't difficult to implement a system that flags it as safe.
If an app is installed via an apk, even if it is safe, I would understand more the need for concern. You never know, etc.
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It would be difficult to implement a system like that. You never know which app is fake or real. Maybe it was a modified version of the app, you'll never know.
Either way, the feature is there and if you want to install an app just quickly turn off your overlay. Not exactly a big problem.
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