Hi guys My brother got a One V recently and so far the biggest complaint about it is the battery life. Looking around dem interwebz I've found he's not the only one, so my questions are:
1) I know it is possible to unlock and relock the bootloader, but will I get the warranty back after relocking?
2) Since battery life is the biggest problem, can I expect any improvements on that matter on any of custom ROMs available?
3) Do we have any ROMs with everything working (Bluetooth, GSM, WiFi etc.)?
4) The phone was purchased in Poland, so the phone is GSM / PrimoU, right?
5) Is every ROM multi-language?
6) How can I backup the stock ROM without rooting the phone first?
1) I know it is possible to unlock and relock the bootloader, but will I get the warranty back after relocking? NO (unless your bricked)
2) Since battery life is the biggest problem, can I expect any improvements on that matter on any of custom ROMs available? Yes
3) Do we have any ROMs with everything working (Bluetooth, GSM, WiFi etc.)? Yes
4) The phone was purchased in Poland, so the phone is GSM / PrimoU, right? correct
5) Is every ROM multi-language? i know the Cyanogen Mod one's are but i cant say for the others
6) How can I backup the stock ROM without rooting the phone first? Use a custom recovery after you unlock and do a "nandroid backup"
Lloir said:
1) I know it is possible to unlock and relock the bootloader, but will I get the warranty back after relocking? NO (unless your bricked)
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First, thanks a lot for answering my questions, but this one isn't all that clear for me, so: If I unlock and relock the BL, I don't have warranty, but if I "accidentally" brick the phone by doing so (BL unlocking or whatever), I still have the warranty? That doesn't really make sense to me :S
Btw: One V has 4GB of built-in memory, but on the stock ROM/kernel only 100 MB is available, does any of custom ROMs/kernels unlock the remaining space?
Lauri455 said:
First, thanks a lot for answering my questions, but this one isn't all that clear for me, so: If I unlock and relock the BL, I don't have warranty, but if I "accidentally" brick the phone by doing so (BL unlocking or whatever), I still have the warranty? That doesn't really make sense to me :S
Btw: One V has 4GB of built-in memory, but on the stock ROM/kernel only 100 MB is available, does any of custom ROMs/kernels unlock the remaining space?
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1st: actually, when you relock the bootloader, it appears as"relocked" instead of "locked". Thus the HTC guys can you tell that you had unlocked the bootloader. But when you are bricked, they can't even get into the bootloader, so they can't tell what you did to the BL.
2nd: that 100 mob is the RAM, not memory space.
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Hi.I'm going to buy an italian xperia play branded TIM.
My question is:Can I flash a general firmware to debrand the phone and than unlock the bootloader with fastboot?
Can someone explain me how to do these things?
Thanks very much
Think the 1st sticky thread at the top of this forum should answer all your questions!
well.
my last question.
If i buy a branded xperia,can I flash a general stock firmware non branded after i installerd Clockworkmod for locked bootloader?and next,unlock bootloader and flash doomkernel?
A better way to do that is just to not flash the CWM for locked bootloaders. The reason being that doomlords kernel includes CWM in it already, I'm not sure how the locked version is stored or whatever but you might run into problems if you have both "installed".
So there is a Doomlords kernel for locked bootloaders? mmm..this is a good news.In fact i wanted to flash CWM first because i thought that i have to unbrand my xperia and than flash another kernel.So i can buy xperia branded and install doomkernel? or i have to:
by xperia-install CWM-unbrand Tim-Unlock bootloader-remove CWM-install doomkernel? excuse me for noob
easiest way to debrand your phone: search Wotanserver on google and use their software to debrand (really esay, there's a step by step guide), then do whatever you want...
No, how it works is you have to unlock your bootloader in order to flash a kernel. As for unbranding you can either use the Wotan server or a .ftf file, neither of these require an unlocked bootloader. You can also flash CWM with a locked bootloader, however this is not the one included in doomkernel, and it will not grant you the ability to flash ROMs as you need an unlocked bootloader to flash the kernel. You want to touch the kernel? You need to unlock your bootloader. Unbranding? You can simply use the two methods listed above. All I was saying earlier is that if you plan on getting your bootloader unlocked (which in most cases is going to run you $24) theres no need to install the locked bootloader CWM first as once youre unlocked you can just flash doomkernel and already have CWM installed.
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No, how it works is you have to unlock your bootloader in order to flash a kernel. As for unbranding you can either use the Wotan server or a .ftf file, neither of these require an unlocked bootloader. You can also flash CWM with a locked bootloader, however this is not the one included in doomkernel, and it will not grant you the ability to flash ROMs as you need an unlocked bootloader to flash the kernel. You want to touch the kernel? You need to unlock your bootloader. Unbranding? You can simply use the two methods listed above. All I was saying earlier is that if you plan on getting your bootloader unlocked (which in most cases is going to run you $24) theres no need to install the locked bootloader CWM first as once youre unlocked you can just flash doomkernel and already have CWM installed.
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ok thanks.i heard that the italian xperia and not the verizon ones can be unlocked with an official method released by sony
Yep thats true, it's the case with a lot of r800i's, if you can put your phone into fastboot mode (turn off, hold search button, plug into usb, blue light comes on) you can unlock it for free through sonys online tool. While the light will go on for the CDMA version you don't have an IMEI to enter on the site so it wont work. All other plays CAN be unlocked, but its not free, you need to go through a pay service to enable fastboot.
Very thanks!however one of my friends bought an xperia and it was GSM R800i TIM and he was able to debrand and unlock so i think that also i can unlock my future xperia,or almost i hope it
Ya it all depends on where you get it from, but keep in mind it only costs $24 to unlock, so even if you find one say on eBay thats cheap but locked to a carrier, you could still just pay $24. That being said they're going pretty cheap now so I don't think you'll have a problem finding one, unlocked or otherwise. As a side not though, you don't need to be unlocked to debrand the phone, you just flash a different firmware file .
and so i can flash a generic firmware with flashtool or similiar?without installing CWM for loocked bootloaders?that's simply excellent!It's can't be better Ok,i will buy an xperia play and not lg optimus dual,that i simply hate xD i don't want a super-power phone,with a bad designe and without the pad.i loved,i love and i will love pad in gaming
Yep you can flash firmware, install CWM, and root, all without unlocking the bootloader (not that you need one to do the others). Unfortunatly the more fun stuff does require an unlocked bootloader, ie overclocking, undervolting, custom ROMs, etc. Anyway you always have the option, so read up on it and decide if you need it or not, regardless, enjoy your new toy
Hey guys,
I'm sorry if this has been asked before - I did a search around but found nothing, surprisingly. Question is, if I flash my HTC One X (which is currently stock and on a plan with Vodafone, so full of 'bloatware' and 'outdated' builds) with the 'universal' (unlocked?) stock ROM will my original warranty be voided? My main reasons for wanting to do this is remove a few unnecessary apps that Vodafone include and make sure I'm receiving the latest OTA updates straight from HTC. Obviously I can continue to wait for the updates and turn a blind eye to the 'crapware', but if I'm able to flash the official stock ROM straight from HTC then I'd much rather do that, just need to make sure no warranty issues will arise as I'd hate to have such a beautiful device collecting dust because I was too impatient or ignorant to check beforehand.
Thanks for any suggestions or help,
DJ GLiTCH
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If you are going to flash any ROM (including stock) you will need to unlock your bootloader first (via HTC dev) and install CWM Recovery. The act of unlocking you bootloader voids your warranty. They keep a note of all of the phones that they have unlocked. You may still be covered for physical defects (although maybe not) and you definitely won't be covered for anything software related.
gifton1 said:
If you are going to flash any ROM (including stock) you will need to unlock your bootloader first (via HTC dev) and install CWM Recovery. The act of unlocking you bootloader voids your warranty. They keep a note of all of the phones that they have unlocked. You may still be covered for physical defects (although maybe not) and you definitely won't be covered for anything software related.
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Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
dr9722 said:
Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
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If you unlock and afterwards relock the bootloader again, in fastboot mode it says bootloader RELOCKED and not LOCKED. That`s how they see it.
I spoke to Vodafone Australia and they assured me that the act of unlocking alone does NOT void your warranty, however once you make a modification, warranty is gone. So yes, flashing another Rom will void warranty
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dr9722 said:
Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
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Actually, as pointed out by Gee2012 above, the bootloader says Relocked if you lock it again - so it is fairly obvious. This is irrelevant anyway as they have your phone imei number which is most probably what they use - they aren't stupid!
And from what I have been reading - HTC are being funny when people are trying to claim on warranty even if it is a physical defect that you have, once you have unlocked your bootloader. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
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Actually, as pointed out by Gee2012 above, the bootloader says Relocked if you lock it again - so it is fairly obvious. This is irrelevant anyway as they have your phone imei number which is most probably what they use - they aren't stupid!
And from what I have been reading - HTC are being funny when people are trying to claim on warranty even if it is a physical defect that you have, once you have unlocked your bootloader. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
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Yes I know it says relocked but HTC arnt keeping a "note" as such at the point of unlocking via HTCDev.
I sent my HOX back due to dust under the screen with the bootloader relocked and I received it back good as new (still unlocked).
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Yes I know it says relocked but HTC arnt keeping a "note" as such at the point of unlocking via HTCDev.
I sent my HOX back due to dust under the screen with the bootloader relocked and I received it back good as new (still unlocked).
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They gave your phone back due to a hardware issue - fair enough. But if you went back for example with poor signal quality, even if you have flashed your original RUU, I very much doubt they would consider that under warranty anymore. They know you have unlocked the bootloader and tinkered with the software (even tho you are now back on stock). Have a lock at the link that i posted - it seems to be pretty murky water!
I also think that it also varies from servicecenter to servicecenter how they cope with this procedure or protocol. Some are more strict than others. I once took a bricked I9000 (due to a bad flash) to Dynafix and they repaired it under warranty!
It was running a custom rom and kerrnel.
Thank you all very much for your responses. I'm sorry for the delay, but for some reason never received any email notifications of replies.
I understand that flashing 'may' void warranty, depending on how far you go with the whole unlocking the bootloader and custom roms, but my concern is with flashing a non-carrier orientated stock rom. Such that I can revive updates quickly and OTA without needing the delay of Vodafone and the like, as well as removing all of their 'useful apps' they include inside their roms which I cannot remove.
Not trying to go off topic here either, but I come from a Samsung background (upgraded from the original Galaxy S) and was just wondering if the flashing process is similar? Like I'm guessing there is no odin for HTC, but clockwork mod and the rest are still around, correct? Not after instructions, just curious, as I'm trying to avoid losing my warranty and would likely only flash stock roms (for the time being at least, until I cave in). Cheers.
According to Vodafone, you will lose your warranty regardless of what you flash whether its stock based or not. They also said that simply rooting voids it as well.
However you might be able to flash the stock RUU for voda which may cover your tracks. I'm not 100% though.
As for flashing, Im still stock at the moment but from what I gather it is the same with respect to clockworkmod recovery and what not. But just double check any OPs before you start though lol
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Hi there guys, im sorry if this is already asked, i have been searching but my english is not great and i havent found anything regarding this matter, i have an htc one x international version, it is locked by carrier, my carrier, i am wondering, if i install a custom rom like viperx, wich is the one i want, will i have any problem regarding the fact that it is lock by my carrier? i do have the sim of the carrier coz i use it, but i dont want to mess up, thank you all in advance!
Yes you can use it, the only thing you might lose is the phones warranty because you have to unlock the bootloader.
Thanks
MarcelHofs said:
Yes you can use it, the only thing you might lose is the phones warranty because you have to unlock the bootloader.
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Thank you very much for the fast answer!. I really dont mind about the warranty issue, but one question though, if you go back to stock they can tell you unlocked the bootloader before? i mean even if u lock it again? thanks so much, very noob here with htc haha
Yes your bootloader is now locked, when you unlock it says ... Hahah unlocked ! And when you re-lock it again ... It's says .......
Relocked ! :thumbup:
It will never go back to locked.
Ow and please make a nandroid backup from your stock rom after unlocking the bootloader and flashing the custom recovery. You will need it when you want to go back to stock. And copy it to a safe place !
I'll make it short:
1. Since you have to provide your IMEI number on the sonymobile website, i guess that even if you relock your bootloader later, sony will know that you have already void your warranty and you will permanently lose your warranty. Is this correct?
2. Can "locked bootloader" roms be flashed on phone with unlock bootloader. I know it's a silly question but i didn't want to open a new thread for just one question
3. Any benefit of unlocking the bootloader over flashing roms with locked bootloader?
4. Is it worth playing with roms on this device at all, since jelly bean is just around the corner? I know that official firmware is always bad and that the custom ones are modified well. I'm fed up of the lag my phone has, every time i pull my notification bar...i'm on official firmware and i'm using build.prop tweaks but they're not helping much.
SONY Says unlocking Bootloader may void it's warranty.
Well see, this is how it works in my country. Upon unlocking bootloader i loose my warranty. But the warranty for any hardware damage is still valid here. Which means with a unlocked bootloader i will not get warranty if my phone gets bricked by any Custom ROM/MOD try out or Software related issue.
But let's say, the screen isn't working or the speaker isn't working, then i might get a replacement for this type of hardware damage. Only parts replacement.
But yes this may not same for all region. Or may be the SONY service center people here are little too kind
But yes, they can check the bootloader unlocking status easily, if i am not mistaken, cause one of the SONY Forum moderator told me so.
Lastly, Playing with the ROM actually Depends on you, some likes custom ROMS and some like Stock ROM.
But since the JB update is just doorstep ahead, so i would say, you wait for it. Do not unlock it now.
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I'll make it short:
1. Since you have to provide your IMEI number on the sonymobile website, i guess that even if you relock your bootloader later, sony will know that you have already void your warranty and you will permanently lose your warranty. Is this correct?
2. Can "locked bootloader" roms be flashed on phone with unlock bootloader. I know it's a silly question but i didn't want to open a new thread for just one question
3. Any benefit of unlocking the bootloader over flashing roms with locked bootloader?
4. Is it worth playing with roms on this device at all, since jelly bean is just around the corner? I know that official firmware is always bad and that the custom ones are modified well. I'm fed up of the lag my phone has, every time i pull my notification bar...i'm on official firmware and i'm using build.prop tweaks but they're not helping much.
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1. Yes they usually check but it depends on your country too. In my country I got my phone's screen replacement done within the warranty after unlocking my boot loader.
2. Yes you can flash any ROM for Xperia S.
3. Main advantage is that you can flash custom kernels ( even ROMs like Cm, slimbean etc.)
4. Absolutely. You can still enjoy official JB even after unlocking your boot loader.
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i was wondering if i unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom rom i`m not willing to change soon, can i lock the bootloader again while i have this rom?
iHookar said:
i was wondering if i unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom rom i`m not willing to change soon, can i lock the bootloader again while i have this rom?
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Certainly you can if you are prepared for a bricked device later. I mean, it is not advisable to lock the bootloader if you have a custom ROM since any issues arise later, you will not be able to solve them. In addition, even if you manage to unlock the bootloader again in such a scenario, you will lose all your data including files, photos, videos etc.
If you properly sign the firmware, you don't even have to unlock the bootloader, see https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/guide-custom-kernels-roms-recoveries-t3572525