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hi everyone, i'm no expert on phone, so don't kill me if i sound stupid
been using my galaxy S for about 4 months now. and yes it does lag compare to the iphone, or other HTC phones. so i been trying to find out, what's going on? why is my top end phone lagging? here's what i found:
1) when does it start to lag badly?
i installed system panel which gives me a nice list of active and inactive apps, and how much free ram i have left. the phone ALWAYS starts to lag like crazy when ram gets below 60mb. this is a problem - samsung is not giving us enough free ram to play with as once we run a few apps (market, internet especially), we're reaching the 60mb point already. when the phone gets to the 60mb mark it tries to manage the apps by closing some less important ones. but it lags BADLY while doing so.
what's gonna happen is the phone gonna get into this never ending cycle of closing apps and laggin as it's stuck in around the 50mb-60mb mark.
i can solve this by going to system panel and closing all inactive apps. then the ram is gonna go back to around 140mb. however after opening a few apps, once again it goes back to below 60mb and the lag starts again.
2) autokiller
guys been saying autokiller is great and they go with the aggressive settings. i tried it and it made the phone worse. why? because instead of killing apps at the 60mb mark it starts killing apps even sooner! that's wasting battery, wasting free ram, and making the phone even slower. we don't have enough free ram to begin with, so we should make max use of it. here's how i do it:
1) root the phone. install autokiller from the market.
2) instead of using high aggressive settings, use the LOWEST settings. i use advanced mode and then enter all values to 8mb only.
now it is awesome!! the phone never lags until you get it down to around the 20mb mark. you now have around 40mb of extra ram to use (of course autokiller does use some ram but no big deal). the lag starts much latter. u may not think 40mb is a lot but it is in practice!
if you dont believe me, you can try it. it may or may not work for u, but it's definitely working for me. of course, once the ram falls below 20mb, it may be a good idea to close some inactive apps yourself, LOL
but really, samsung should give us at least 100mb more free ram, i can't believe i even have to do this!
Well you point one issue that lag happens, but almost every custom kernel/Rom use memory tweak that Make you around 40MB more to start with.
And yes autokiller don't work good.
The program in the phone is the best to use.
The main lag issue is the filesystem.
Even these can be fixed with many different kernel/Rom.
Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 341MB Ram
i don't disagree with what you're saying. but a few things to add:
1) i have not applied lag fix myself but i have a friend who has. i dont feel his phone is much quicker than mine in reality. also, his phone crashed after a few weeks and he had to do a hard reset. what we REALLY need is more ram. if we have lots of ram, who cares about the file system? we don't even need any swap from the file system. just let everything stays in ram where it is the quickest.
2) i'm not using any custom roms. if custom roms give me extra 40mb, and then i adjust the auto killer setting to low, that gives me 80mb extra to play with. great.
autokiller DOES work good i feel if you're doing what i'm saying. maybe u have already tried what i'm doing, i don't know, but if you have not, then i highly recommend you to try it.
like i said i'm no expert on this, but autokiller is so easy to install and adjust, and that i feel anyone here can use it
maybe flashing custom firmware is easy to do, i haven't tried it, but it sounds complicated to do for me, and i don't want really big changes on my phone, i want it to be extremely stable and safe as i use it a lot for business. i don't really want to risk any data or risk reinstalling stuff.
so maybe i sound uneducated but like i said i suggest everyone to try this method if they're newbies and don't wanna do too much
I can confirm that setting autokiller to low settings makes the phone feel faster than on high settings, I tried that some time ago.
But lag will still be present.
As mentioned by the poster this is a low risk, low skill method of improving the phone and is easy to do for all.
For all others I recommend the JFS lagfix. It is by far the lagfreest experience out there!
i have a buddy with a moto milestone and his phone lags just the same as ours. his phone has even less free ram than ours and so his is constantly lagging. sometimes he can't even take a phone call while listening to music becoz his phone only has like 50mb of free ram after starting up. so, just a point of reference - our galaxy is crippled with just not enough free ram, i heard stories of nexus one having 200+ free ram after startup and that's why they dont lag like us, so at the end of the day we're fighting a losing batter becoz samsung didn't give us a good enough phone
Mycorrhiza said:
I can confirm that setting autokiller to low settings makes the phone feel faster than on high settings, I tried that some time ago.
But lag will still be present.
As mentioned by the poster this is a low risk, low skill method of improving the phone and is easy to do for all.
For all others I recommend the JFS lagfix. It is by far the lagfreest experience out there!
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thank u and i may try the jfs fix, but i'm just worried about something happening to the phone becoz of what happened to my buddy who lost all his data (i can't remember which lag fix he used though), i always have this thinking that if the lag fix are 100% safe, then why aren't samsung doing it? samsung are paying tons of money to the programmers i'm sure and you would think they know how to do it too? but they choose not to, and there must be a good reason why.
You have a very good point supraman123! I realized it was the memory management that made the phone go crazy around the 60MB mark (you'll see the kswapd0 process go crazy), but never realized Autokiller could help us lower that mark. I hope this works, would be one of the best and easiest fixes for the SGS.
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thank u and i may try the jfs fix, but i'm just worried about something happening to the phone becoz of what happened to my buddy who lost all his data (i can't remember which lag fix he used though), i always have this thinking that if the lag fix are 100% safe, then why aren't samsung doing it? samsung are paying tons of money to the programmers i'm sure and you would think they know how to do it too? but they choose not to, and there must be a good reason why.
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If we know the amount of time and money Samsung spend on developing RFS...
So wait, the phone is faster if the minfree is set higher than default, and the phone is faster if the minfree is set lower than default... holy ****!
I applaud Samsung for figuring out the one setting that makes the phone suck and use that as default. Way to go, Sammy, way to go.
I know what u are talking about. I think it was an ext4 fix. All other lag fixes I know of don't share that problem.
Also with root there are many ways to secure your data prior to installing a lag fix.
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Mycorrhiza said:
I know what u are talking about. I think it was an ext4 fix. All other lag fixes I know of don't share that problem.
Also with root there are many ways to secure your data prior to installing a lag fix.
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hi, thank u, can u tell me how to secure the data? or u have any good links to show me? thanks
jjwa said:
You have a very good point supraman123! I realized it was the memory management that made the phone go crazy around the 60MB mark (you'll see the kswapd0 process go crazy), but never realized Autokiller could help us lower that mark. I hope this works, would be one of the best and easiest fixes for the SGS.
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i hope it will work good for u also
xmonkee said:
So wait, the phone is faster if the minfree is set higher than default, and the phone is faster if the minfree is set lower than default... holy ****!
I applaud Samsung for figuring out the one setting that makes the phone suck and use that as default. Way to go, Sammy, way to go.
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i'm quite disappointed at the ram issue also. coming from a n97 mini which seriously lacks ram, i was hoping by going for a high end phone like the galaxy, i aint gonna have to worry about ram and closing apps manually all day, however in reality the Galaxy aint much better than the n97 at multi tasking. of course, it's far better than the n97 at everything else.
I totally agree with OP on this one!
But Autokiller is not the only app that can fix the lag.
One Click Lag Fix 2.0 can root your SGS (Eclair only), lagfix it (with EXT2) and it can even do some additional tweaks like minfree (same as the Autokiller app) and fix the Scheduler.
With minfree Samsung put these values in "/sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree":
"2048,4096,5120,5632,6144,7172"
But best is:
Aggressive: "1536,2048,4096,21000,23000,25000"
or
Strict: "1536,2048,4096,15360,17920,20480" - I prefer this one
btw when you've a lot of ram free the ram is mostly used to cache file system reads ^.^
this explains that a little
Im using the 341MB of free ram so that gives me an instant 40MB ontop of the stock kernel, never seen the phone had less than 60mb free with this kernel, with my usage it doesnt even go under 95mb free.
I am also running one of those kernels that gives extra RAM. And I have all my partitions Ext4 lagfixed. But my phone still seems quite slow at times. My RAM was above 80MB free at that time though, so probably not related to any minfree/Autokiller thing at all. Which means there are way more causes to get rid of I guess.
I don`t know how you guys have problems with the lag, I use the stock samsung JPO, not even deodexed with zankinz 23 kernel and NO-RFS all ext4 lagfix and the phone is running perfectly, no lag whatsoever, the RAM is somewhere near 220 mb free after reboot. After deodexing and optimizing the apk`s the phone should run even better. I was determined to change my SGS with a Desire HD, but now I`m really thinking of keeping it.
Hello all,
I am the owner of a rooted xperia play with stock rom.
I've installed link2sd so that I can save some ram and space: moved most of my apps on the SD card, and deleted some unwanted native apps (Bruce Lee, Fifa, etc...) and "freezed" the others I did not dare to delete.
But this is not enough for me to play games like GTA III and Dead Trigger smoothly, even with a task killer and airplane mode set on. I suffer from many lags while playing greedy games.
I've done some researches on this forum and found some potential solutions:
- Using boosting apps like: gamebooster, ram manager pro, chainfire 3D pro, etc...
- Overclock the processor up to 1,6ghz with setCPU or other apps.
-Increase SD card performance and optimize ram as explained below:
Increase SD card performance
1. Navigate to /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/179:0 folder in your Xperia Play
2. Press and hold on the read_ahead_kb file. This action will pop out a new menu.
3. Choose Open With Text Editor option
4. Change the current value to 1024
5. Save your changes and exit
Optimize RAM
1. Grab the Juwe_Update18082011_RAM_Script.zip
2. Extract the file and put it on your SD card
3. Launch the Root Explorer
4. Navigate to /system/etc/
5. Create a new folder, named it as init.d
6. Copy the S97ramscript file into that folder
7. Set the perms of S97ramscript file to rwxrwxrwx
What is your advice? Can I use safely one (or several) of those solutions? What are the risks? Which solution is really effective and will allow me to play demanding games?
My xperia play is still under warranty so I don't want to lose it. Which means I don't want to try custom roms or custom kernels... Until my warranty ends.
Thanks for your help!
Well, the biggest performance boost, overclocking, requires a custom kernel. Not much else really makes a huge difference
Also, I believe using the init.d directory requires a custom kernel as well
Why not just use v6 supercharger?
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jgregoryj1 said:
Why not just use v6 supercharger?
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Did not know about this one...
It has a lot of success judging from the number of pages in the official v6 Supercharger thread...
But seems a bit complicated to me. Does it really works? Have you noticed some improvements in your performances?
More importantly, does it preserve the phone's warranty? I've read somewhere that it can be uninstalled so I guess so, but I'd like a confimation first.
Thanks for your help.
Look, the amount of times I have seen this type of thread open is astounding I would like to point that you use gingerbread any version (2.3.7 Moded to look like rom) and a custom kernel such as Doomlords etc. Supercharge or use a rom like Dike's. You only get best performance with using less apps, rebooting the phone before playing a game, task killers, clean your cache, installing phone eco friendly apps and use a governer for your preference!
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cityhunter62 said:
Did not know about this one...
It has a lot of success judging from the number of pages in the official v6 Supercharger thread...
But seems a bit complicated to me. Does it really works? Have you noticed some improvements in your performances?
More importantly, does it preserve the phone's warranty? I've read somewhere that it can be uninstalled so I guess so, but I'd like a confimation first.
Thanks for your help.
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No you wont because you have to root, rooting voids the warranty anyway but you can simply unroot after...
cityhunter62 said:
Did not know about this one...
It has a lot of success judging from the number of pages in the official v6 Supercharger thread...
But seems a bit complicated to me. Does it really works? Have you noticed some improvements in your performances?
More importantly, does it preserve the phone's warranty? I've read somewhere that it can be uninstalled so I guess so, but I'd like a confimation first.
Thanks for your help.
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I saw a vast improvement in my phone with V6. Its really easy. Just place the scirpt on your SDcard. Download script manager, then select the V6 script, check run as root, and hit go. Follow the on screen selection.
I did the following
512 HP super unleaded (Bulletproof home)
Nitro Lag nullifier
Seriously.... BIG difference in my phone. I could b playing a game and hit the home button.. BAM... there instant no lag no redraw, nothing just all there ready to go. Seriously cannot praise it enough.
nice..
Just to share my experience.
I've bought Ram Manager Pro finally.
I know it's probably not as effective as an overclock or V6 Supercharger, but I do not want to mess with the kernel, custom roms or scripts.
I'm running on stock gingerbread rooted, I've removed the bloatwares and I think it's enough modifications already. I don't want any bugs or troubles with stability so I don't want to modify the OS too much.
Anyway, I'm using Advanced Task Killer along with Ram Manager Pro... And it works! Really.
I was not able to play GTA because it was too laggy, but with Ram Manger Pro set on "Hard Gaming", I was able to improve the graphics (max details, dynamic shadows, 75% clipping and 80% resolution) and it plays rather nicely. It's not really smooth (not like 60 FPS) but it's far enough to be playable and enjoyable.
It wasn't without Ram Pro Manager. SO it's worth trying. Don't expect miracles but some gain in performances, surely.
Maybe I should try an alternative launcher as I heard it can improve performances as well... Any suggestions for a light and modest one?
Also, is there anyway to prevent Maps, Facebook, Crash bandicoot or Super Monkey Ball to start automatically even with task killer? I can understand (to a certain extent) that Maps and Facebook needs to start and connect, but Crash Bandicoot and Monkey Ball??? Seriously? WTF?
cityhunter62 said:
Just to share my experience.
I've bought Ram Manager Pro finally.
I know it's probably not as effective as an overclock or V6 Supercharger, but I do not want to mess with the kernel, custom roms or scripts.
I'm running on stock gingerbread rooted, I've removed the bloatwares and I think it's enough modifications already. I don't want any bugs or troubles with stability so I don't want to modify the OS too much.
Anyway, I'm using Advanced Task Killer along with Ram Manager Pro... And it works! Really.
I was not able to play GTA because it was too laggy, but with Ram Manger Pro set on "Hard Gaming", I was able to improve the graphics (max details, dynamic shadows, 75% clipping and 80% resolution) and it plays rather nicely. It's not really smooth (not like 60 FPS) but it's far enough to be playable and enjoyable.
It wasn't without Ram Pro Manager. SO it's worth trying. Don't expect miracles but some gain in performances, surely.
Maybe I should try an alternative launcher as I heard it can improve performances as well... Any suggestions for a light and modest one?
Also, is there anyway to prevent Maps, Facebook, Crash bandicoot or Super Monkey Ball to start automatically even with task killer? I can understand (to a certain extent) that Maps and Facebook needs to start and connect, but Crash Bandicoot and Monkey Ball??? Seriously? WTF?
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Try Autostarts to disable apps from running automatically
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Install custom ROM like Xperia NXT and get Bloatware remover by fma965 = SMALL SPEED BOOST
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Speed up the galaxy y smartphoneGuys today I am going to teach you how to speed up the galaxy y.The galaxy y has many problems.Low ram and processor speed being one of them.However,this is mostly due to factors which can be reduced and avoided.This guide is divided into two parts.Root section and Non root section.The rooted users can follow the non root section too but the non rooted users cant follow the root section(Duh!!)After following these steps your galaxy y should run like a galaxy s2!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Non Root Section
Apps
Get these two cool apps to boost your phones speed:
1)Android Speed booster(its Free)
2)Smart Ram booster(free and paid)
Some ppl use Nq mobile booster but i personally think its meant for high end phones.The Nq mobile booster itself hogs abt 20 mb ram in the background and,for the most part,its like an antivirus.
Widgets
Widgets are meant for quick access and are one of android's biggest selling points.However,loading up your home screen with widgets can be counterproductive as they hog ram.one or two widgets are O.K but over three? cause for worry.And,avoid interactive widgets like animated ones.they are ram hoggers!!
Service Check
Many people will be surprised to see this here but really,its one of the most important steps.Long press on the home screen.Go to Add>Shortcuts>Settings>Running Services.It should then place a shortcut on your home screen.Periodically,click on the shortcut and check how many services are running in the background.Useless ones like games services can be terminated!
This step may sound tedious at first,but itll soon beccome a habit for speed geeks.Try this step,youll be surprised how many useless servicves can be terminated,thus freeing up precious ram...
Antivirus
Are you using lookout? if yes,then change to AVG.Lookout hogs over 25 mb ram in the background!!Sorry lookout fans!!
App configurations
Have you configured a app to run in the background?? if so ask yourself this questiono I really need that service?At the cost of ram??If the answer is no,then change the app configuration.If its yes,then you arent a speed freak
Launchers
Launchers are awesome.period!Not only are they more customizable and look better,many a time,they also use less ram than your stock launcher!So,what are you waiting for,if youve not already got one,them get one!!!Some of the best launchers(graded on speed,storage usage,and memory)are:-Lightning launcher,Adw launcher and launcher pro.Go launcher uses too much ram and storage,making it an ideal choice for high end phones but not for the y!!
Root Your Phone!!
The following steps require root access.So go ahead root your phone! its 99.9% safe!Just google root the galaxy y and there appears the process!Its a really simple process really.Just6 downloading a file called update.zip and installing it in recovery!
Root Section
V6 Supercharger by zeppelinrox
As any speed freak would know,the v6 supercharger is an awesome script made by an xda dev called zeppelinrox.It basically defragments your ram,changes priorities and most importantly,makes your phone blazingly fast!Here is the link to a guide made by another xda dev called carl dean catabay:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603953
Apps
Get the following apps for root to speed up your phone
1)Autokiller memory optimizer
2)Game booster
I dont think they are available on play store,so get them as apks!
Bloatware and Crapware
Apps preinstalled by the manufacturer and wireless carrier are called bloatwares.Most of them are absolutely useless and do nothing but hog ram and storage.So,do you want them on your phone?Hell no!!So get a root file explorer and delete them in system/app!!
Custom Rom
A custom rom can greatly enhance your phone!Besides,its also a certificate of geekiness!So,get a custom rom today!!But before that,i would like to say that custom roms and V6 Supercharger dont mix well.So,first check whether your rom is compatible or not before running V6 supercharger.
Authors NoteI would first of all like to say that I am not responsible for any damage to your device which may have occurred from not following some root steps properly.It is,as i said,99.9% safe but some noobs will have still bricked their phones!Secondly,I would like to ask you not to copy my guide onto other forums.Lastly,please rate this thread five stars if it helped.New steps will be added soon!!
Thank you ...
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Apps
Get the following apps for root to speed up your phone
1)Autokiller memory optimizer
2)Game booster
I dont think they are available on play store,so get them as apks!
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Complete crap, they make more battery consumption rather than decreasing it.
Android has its own taskkiller and it manages accordingly, using taskkiller will result in a decrease of performance...
hitme987 said:
Complete crap, they make more battery consumption rather than decreasing it.
Android has its own taskkiller and it manages accordingly, using taskkiller will result in a decrease of performance...
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I think you didnt read properly!!!!!!This is to increase speed not battery life!!!!!!And androids default task killer is horrible!!plus game booster is not even a task killer.it is a tool for overclocking. dont ever post cuss words or ill report u to Techno!!!!"
I am a complete GEEK!!!!
Lol mr.op
I found this on v6 supercharger forum ....
mrappbrain said:
This script didnt help me at all!!!It slowed down my phone!!My games dont run fast at all!!!I followed all the steps correctly..Please help someone!!!
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Haha it slowed down ur phone and u come here make a forum sayin it speed up ur fone ??
Why r u lying mr geek
simplyanin said:
Lol mr.op
I found this on v6 supercharger forum ....
Haha it slowed down ur phone and u come here make a forum sayin it speed up ur fone ??
Why r u lying mr geek
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As you may have noticed by now,I am a speed freak!So,i actually was running a custom rom.So,V6 superchargers minfree values and my roms did not match and my phone slowed down.Thats why i hve added in the custom rom column,custom roms and V6 supercharger do not mix well!Eplecially if the rom has its own minfree values,I wanted to share my ways of speeding up my phone with others.V6 supercharger is not a choice of mine but others love it so i included it.It dosent work on my phone because of the above reason.However,itll work for urs.Guaranteed!!!:laugh:
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Umm....dude do u think u could upload a download link for game booster and also which kernel tweaks should I use on the memory booster think?
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c.r.e.e.d said:
Umm....dude do u think u could upload a download link for game booster and also which kernel tweaks should I use on the memory booster think?
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The game booster apk is attached below
Edit: game booster paid app on play store so apk removed as its warez
Thanks mate.
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c.r.e.e.d said:
Thanks mate.
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Press thanks instead of saying it
U r a compleat noob
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mrappbrain said:
The game booster apk is attached below
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You attached game booster but its a paid app in play store,so you posted warez.Delete it before delete techno
funny95 said:
You attached game booster but its a paid app in play store,so you posted warez.Delete it before delete techno
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I removed it.thnx
good thread indeed, but you'll need to revise some of the content. no offense but someone who has been using sgy for a long time might think this thread is just a useless post.
Apps
Get these two cool apps to boost your phones speed:
1)Android Speed booster(its Free)
2)Smart Ram booster(free and paid)
Some ppl use Nq mobile booster but i personally think its meant for high end phones.The Nq mobile booster itself hogs abt 20 mb ram in the background and,for the most part,its like an antivirus.
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any proof on it? most of these app just give placebo effect. remember that modfying system always need root permission. how could these app boost our device without root permission?
Antivirus
Are you using lookout? if yes,then change to AVG.Lookout hogs over 25 mb ram in the background!!Sorry lookout fans!!
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somehow it doesn't match with the title. antivirus is comsuming a lot of ram space and it has great impact on device performance. using no antivirus is recommended if you want a fast device
App configurations
Have you configured a app to run in the background?? if so ask yourself this questiono I really need that service?At the cost of ram??If the answer is no,then change the app configuration.If its yes,then you arent a speed freak
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sounds easy...but how to change it? the setting is saved inside the apk itself. native android GB setting can do nothing about it. app like autostart manager needs root permission.
V6 Supercharger by zeppelinrox
As any speed freak would know,the v6 supercharger is an awesome script made by an xda dev called zeppelinrox.It basically defragments your ram,changes priorities and most importantly,makes your phone blazingly fast!Here is the link to a guide made by another xda dev called carl dean catabay:http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1603953
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this tweak doesn't always running well in sgy. anyway, this tweak also too general. there are a lot of better tweak specified for samsung devices or sgy. you can make it simpler by simply saying "use any system tweaks".
Apps
Get the following apps for root to speed up your phone
1)Autokiller memory optimizer
2)Game booster
I dont think they are available on play store,so get them as apks!
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look above
Bloatware and Crapware
Apps preinstalled by the manufacturer and wireless carrier are called bloatwares.Most of them are absolutely useless and do nothing but hog ram and storage.So,do you want them on your phone?Hell no!!So get a root file explorer and delete them in system/app!!
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good advice but you'll need a complete list of the bloatwares. most of user here doesn't know which app are safe to be removed.
Custom Rom
A custom rom can greatly enhance your phone!Besides,its also a certificate of geekiness!So,get a custom rom today!!But before that,i would like to say that custom roms and V6 Supercharger dont mix well.So,first check whether your rom is compatible or not before running V6 supercharger.
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tweaked+debloatwared stock rom always perform better
kurotsugi said:
good thread indeed, but you'll need to revise some of the content. no offense but someone who has been using sgy for a long time might think this thread is just a useless post.
any proof on it? most of these app just give placebo effect. remember that modfying system always need root permission. how could these app boost our device without root permission?
somehow it doesn't match with the title. antivirus is comsuming a lot of ram space and it has great impact on device performance. using no antivirus is recommended if you want a fast device
sounds easy...but how to change it? the setting is saved inside the apk itself. native android GB setting can do nothing about it. app like autostart manager needs root permission.
V6 Supercharger by zeppelinrox
this tweak doesn't always running well in sgy. anyway, this tweak also too general. there are a lot of better tweak specified for samsung devices or sgy. you can make it simpler by simply saying "use any system tweaks".
look above
good advice but you'll need a complete list of the bloatwares. most of user here doesn't know which app are safe to be removed.
tweaked+debloatwared stock rom always perform better
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On the defensive now,apps like speed booster just kill unnecessary apps and clear cache,thus giving a quick,temporary,but effective speed boost.thus,they dont need root
As for antivirus,in this day and age its just stupid not to have an antivirus.AVG used5mb ram,lookout uses 26!thus i say switch to AVG.
By app config,i mean the setting of the app.for example, enabling real time scanner on a antivirus could have a negative effect on performance.such settings can be tweaked inside the app itself.
V6 supercharger works 90%of the time.and cuz of xda,even the other 10%can get it to work!!
I didnt get ur look above.
And,noobs are not generally speed freaks.so,i thought any not noob would know the difference between bloatware and important app
And custom roms give speed increases and a new lease of life to devices.
Thanks for the advice,
Hope i clarified things.
Mrappbrain
mrappbrain said:
On the defensive now,apps like speed booster just kill unnecessary apps and clear cache,thus giving a quick,temporary,but effective speed boost.thus,they dont need root
As for antivirus,in this day and age its just stupid not to have an antivirus.AVG used5mb ram,lookout uses 26!thus i say switch to AVG.
By app config,i mean the setting of the app.for example, enabling real time scanner on a antivirus could have a negative effect on performance.such settings can be tweaked inside the app itself.
V6 supercharger works 90%of the time.and cuz of xda,even the other 10%can get it to work!!
I didnt get ur look above.
And,noobs are not generally speed freaks.so,i thought any not noob would know the difference between bloatware and important app
And custom roms give speed increases and a new lease of life to devices.
Thanks for the advice,
Hope i clarified things.
Mrappbrain
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all task killer not kill unnecessary apps, they kill random unlucky apps. they don't know which one is unnecessary. if you open browser then need do something like check your mail, then your task killer think your browser is useless because it' not active, then all your opened page is lost and need to reopen (download). that's not fast
and what do you mean with cache? io/storage cache in memory? only kernel can do it, and it's completely automatic. and cache make io/storage access faster. or disk cache? you need root access.
and android already have build in task killer which is already working great in gingerbread.
antivirus? freaks don't need antivirus. freaks read apps permission. freaks not install apps from untrusted source. freaks aware if something wrong with his/her device.
good custom rom give speed improvement. bad one is not. the question is which one is good ? if your answer is non noob would know which one is good, then all non noob already know all you tips. they don't need it.
i love android. unfortunately android community have a lot of myth and misconception
mrappbrain said:
On the defensive now,apps like speed booster just kill unnecessary apps and clear cache,thus giving a quick,temporary,but effective speed boost.thus,they dont need root
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if you insist...in a more explained reason. no user level app could kill another user level app. more ram space is also always be a bad idea in a linux based system like android. a simple test with an app like antutu will shows you an objective and measurable result. no performance boost
As for antivirus,in this day and age its just stupid not to have an antivirus.AVG used5mb ram,lookout uses 26!thus i say switch to AVG.
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personally I prefer to use none of it. no malware reported could damage our system. most of them only a kind of data stealing app. we could filter it faster than any antivirus did. even if we accidentally installed one, we can simply uninstall it. system damage count-->zero. the ram usage is only one thing. we should also consider the cpu load on our device. these kind of app use more resource than usual app.
V6 supercharger works 90%of the time.and cuz of xda,even the other 10%can get it to work!!
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can you run it on stock rom with stock kernel? of course not. you can check the values between this tweak and the one in the system. most of them are different.
1. these tweak needs a custom kernel with init.d support.
2. galaxy series tweak like adrenaline, stamatis's or nitrospeed is more favored since they're specially designed for low ram devices like sgy. v6 is too general and not suitable with our device. you should understand it better than anyone else
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This script didnt help me at all!!!It slowed down my phone!!My games dont run fast at all!!!I followed all the steps correctly..Please help someone!!!
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3. most of custom rom have their own tweak. no need to add more tweak.
I didnt get ur look above.
copied-->any proof on it? most of these app just give placebo effect. a simple test with an app like antutu will shows you an objective and measurable result. no performance boost
And,noobs are not generally speed freaks.so,i thought any not noob would know the difference between bloatware and important app
And custom roms give speed increases and a new lease of life to devices.
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nope...even a dev need that list. if this thread isn't for noob then why should it exist? most advanced user already know about this stuffs. they even make their own tweak and rom for theirselves.
for the custom rom, are you sure it faster? most of custom roms have a kind of placebo effect, makes the user 'feels' that it faster than stock rom. well, that's a subjective view on it. on an objective view, custom rom have average 1800-1900 antutu score. the highest result is ~2100 with repencis rom. on other hand stock rom could hit 1900+ easily. the highest score is ~2200. none of custom rom could beat it ^,^v
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mrappbrain said:
I think you didnt read properly!!!!!!This is to increase speed not battery life!!!!!!And androids default task killer is horrible!!plus game booster is not even a task killer.it is a tool for overclocking. dont ever post cuss words or ill report u to Techno!!!!"
I am a complete GEEK!!!!
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Nope, it doesnt increase battery life too, it instead decreases..androids default task killer isnt horrible, its the correct balance between ram, performance and battery saving.
Game booster never overclocks(lol), its a placebo effect, you need a overclock kernel to do that.
Did I cuss something there? You seriously should learn what "Crap" means..Go on and report to techno, I did nothing wrong there..
LOL you a geek? Seriously dude, wait let me explain the whole thing you got there..you have many misconceptions, its not being a noob thats wrong, drawing misconceptions and false statements make it wrong.
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On the defensive now,apps like speed booster just kill unnecessary apps and clear cache,thus giving a quick,temporary,but effective speed boost.thus,they dont need root
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It does give a boost, but you guys dont mean what boost is, it kills the background processes hence giving a boost, but the processes need to run in background at all times, hence they will open again automatically, you close them, then open, its like a cycle, will it increase any battery saving or performance? Its common sense..
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As for antivirus,in this day and age its just stupid not to have an antivirus.AVG used5mb ram,lookout uses 26!thus i say switch to AVG.
By app config,i mean the setting of the app.for example, enabling real time scanner on a antivirus could have a negative effect on performance.such settings can be tweaked inside the app itself.
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Linux doesnt have any viruses(aside from spywares which steal your personal info) like windows..also, its almost impossible to create a virus on android..using avg or any antivirus is waste of ram+battery since the play store applications wont have any viruses in it, unless you download apks from unknown sources, an antivirus is not required. BTW,on my experimentation, avg antivirus with real time scanning uses more battery than a launcher or anything (Dont draw conclusions that its just 5 MB, it needs to run 24x7, needs to verify every site you browse, need to scan sd card every time it mounts up, so it takes more battery than a launcher or a refreshing home widget takes)
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Apps
Get the following apps for root to speed up your phone
1)Autokiller memory optimizer
2)Game booster
I dont think they are available on play store,so get them as apks!
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Same as the first case, your battery life, performance and everything will decrease, these apps dont do your device any good
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And,noobs are not generally speed freaks.so,i thought any not noob would know the difference between bloatware and important app
And custom roms give speed increases and a new lease of life to devices.
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Dude, you got any proof for this?
Stock ROM is way better than custom ROM, custom ROMs are just smooth to use thats it, battery backup, gaming, multi tasking, everything is a lot better
than custom ROMs. Go check antutu benchmarks and no custom ROM can touch stock ROMs benchmarks, now that makes some sense isnt it?
Guys u say that avg is best antivirus on speed . I use kaspersky. Is that OK or how compared to avg?
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Ok, i will try to explain...
I compared launching app speed on wildfire and other phone...
Wildfire overclocked to 768mhz CM7 latest nightly (tried different cpu speeds and governors no much diference)
And other phone was Prestigio 4040 stock, which works on 1ghz processor... (i know it can not be actually fairly compared but...)
Anyway, i tested opera mini and opera mobile... shortest i get to open opera mini was 7 sec, and opera mobile 8 sec.
On other phone opens almost instantly, sometimes maybe 2sec...
So my question is... even if cpu clock speed on wildfire is 232 lower that other phone's, which is 23% less than Prestigio's, (if im right)
apps do not open 23% slower on Wildfire
So, i guess... it is not all about processor? Different RAM or something, newer ROM... what? Hope someone can explain
(i tried different ROMs on Wildfire results is the same, i really want to know what is all about :crying: )
There are three things that control the overall performance of your phone.
1. Cpu
2. Gpu (graphic processing)
3. Ram
Our wildfire lacks gpu in addition to a slow cpu which is the main reason why all the lags. Graphic processing is also done by cpu which causes additional load.
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Ohh
Now i see Good.
Another one quick Will converting app to system app make the app launch/perform faster? (i tried with some apps, some work, some dont, for example viber always force closes if put to system app, others just wont show etc.) Which app can be used ass system app and which can not?
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Now i see Good.
Another one quick Will converting app to system app make the app launch/perform faster? (i tried with some apps, some work, some dont, for example viber always force closes if put to system app, others just wont show etc.) Which app can be used ass system app and which can not?
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The apps which do not work when moved to system require lib files in /system/lib. Try moving these apps with titanium backup. Or you can try and extract the lib files from apk and place them in lib folder with rw-r--r-- permissions.
And I dont feel any change in speed between user and system apps.
I know, many people here want to have Android 4.x.x on their phones, but unfortunately, because of low-end processor as well as less RAM, these CM10/CM10.1 ROMs are laggy and slow. I am also one of them, but, after using these type of roms since 4 months, I have now got a perfect idea of using them. So, I am sharing the way I use these roms. Many people told that this also helps for CM7 users. So, now I have declared this thread as UNIVERSAL PERFORMANCE THREAD. This method can be used on - Stock | CM7/9/10/10.1.
NOTE : This thread is mainly from galaxy mini forums. But, I have posted it here also, so that Gio users also get its benefits.
NOTE : This method is same for PAC ROMS.. because they are based on CM. So, you can use this on PAC ROMs also.
♦ FINDING STABLE VERSION :
First of all, you will need to find a good stable version of any CM7\CM9\CM10\CM10.1 ROM. Find stable version by asking in general discussion thread of those particular ROM and then download that version. But, do not flash now.. Follow next step.
Note : For CM7 users - Official CM7 is best, but if you want you can try it on custom roms also. If you are using CM7 custom or stock based custom rom, then for scripts n tweaks to work, you must delete all the scripts from init.d so that scripts will not get overridden.
♦ SLIMMING THE ROM :
Slimming means making rom size less by removing unwanted and unnecessary applications from system/app. It reduces system memory use. Here is a chart of cm10.1 apps which are safe to remove - LINK
With reference to that chart you should remove following apps with adding alternatives to them.
Note: Left side apps are to be removed and right side apps are alternatives.
● LatinIME.apk - WP7 Keyboard App
● Browser.apk - Holo Web Browser
● CMFileManager.apk - Root Explorer File Manager
● Trebuchet.apk - Holo Launcher
NOTE: On CM7, default ADW is good, but you can also use Holo Launcher.
Other apps that can be removed without alternatives-
● CalendarProvider.apk - One of the big RAM consuming apps. This app start anytime, you do anything, so it will be a big save of memory removing this app. But, you will get problems with calendar sync..
● GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter.apk - Reomove this only if you do not sync calendar.
● Email.apk - If not in use.
● Gmail.apk - If not in use.
● Talk.apk - If not in use.
● GoogleBackupTransport.apk - It is used in google backups, remove on your own risk. (Not a risk, i always remove it.)
● ChromeBookmarkSyncAdapter - No use.
● HTMLViewer.apk - Never needed.
● UserDictionaryProvider.apk - It is useless without LatinIME.apk.
● VisualizationWallpapers.apk - Wallpapers app. Remove it always.
● CMWallpapers - Remove it always.
● VoiceDialer.apk - Do you really use it?
● LiveWallpapers.apk - Dont you care for your battery?
● QuickSearchBox.apk - If you dont use.
● PicoTTS.apk - Text to speech function.
NOTE: Alternative apps should always be installed in system/app only. For that, I recommend you to remove these apps drectly from rom's zip before flashing.
♦ USE OF SCRIPTS N TWEAKS :
Many people use hard scripts n many tweaks to get good performance. But, it is totally wrong.
Highly recommended to use Activo Speeder. It is the best script for performance. Dont use anyother thing with it- such as ram manager, seeder or anyother script.
(Note: If the above script doesnt work on your device then please find another good script and flash it.)
IT IS RECOMMENDED TO USE SUPERCHARGER ON ICS\JB :
After testing a lot, I found that SuperCharger is the best script which can be used with any ROM to get more performance and for perfect RAM Management. Here are some steps on how to use SuperCharger -
● Here is the original thread for SuperCharger script.
● Script can be downloaded from this download page.
● Download latest script as well as starter package if needed (Read Original Thread).
● Now, for 4.x.x ROMs, you do not need to do anything with services.jar. But, for below 4.x.x, services.jar needs to be patched to get SuperCharger Memory Management working.
● Now, copy script to SDcard and run it with Script Manager as root. For more detailed guide plz prefer the original supercharger thread.
● Now, you are running the script. You will find many options and info on screen. Read it all and choose what you want.
NEW DISCOVERY : SUPERCHARGER + CROSSBREEDER = ULTIMATE PERFORMANCE WITH MAX ENTROPY ! - by Dark Passenger
● LINK FOR THE POST.
Here are some tweaks-
In Build.prop -
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Code:
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
and change the value from 0 to 1. (Add the line with proper value if does not exist)
This one is for battery saving.
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Code:
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=48m
If it already exists then just match the values.
This is a VM Heap management for RAM.
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Code:
ro.ext4fs = 1
Improves EXT4 performance.
● IMP :
Add following lines below "# Other" in build.prop
Code:
ro.com.google.locationfeatures=0
ro.com.google.networklocation=0
(If exists, just change the values as above).
(Note: This one will remove location feature increasing performance freeing up more RAM. This frees up to 30mb of RAM)
And now remove NetworkLocation.apk from system/app as well as com.android.location.provider.jar from /system/framework.
For further build.prop tweaking, you can use this great guide -> Click Here. Thanks to Dark Passenger for some build.prop tweaks.
This much tweaking and scripting is enough. DONT USE TOO MUCH TWEAKS N SCRIPTS.
♦ BASIC APPS TO USE :
Your rom's performance also depends on the apps which you use. Always look for apps' memory usage and if the app consumes more ram then try to find an alternative app for it. Here are some basic apps which you should use (i always use them).
● Use Root Explorer as file manager, Holo Launcher as Launcher.
● Use Cache Cleaner App. It is must. Clean cache once a day.
● Use Root Cleaner App. A must have app. Do "Quick Cleaning" twice a day. It will regulate your performance.
You can also freeze the apps you are not using at that time, such as DSPManager (Unfreeze it only at the time of listening songs)
Freezing Google Apps will be a great way to reduce RAM consumption.
● Use this amazing app - Autostarts. This app controls the apps that start automatically in your phone. If you want settings which I use then PM me. I will tell you, how to use this app.
CLICK HERE FOR AUTOSTART APP SETTINGS
● ABOUT TASK KILLERS :
Using task killer is good but, it is also bad. Task killing is actually meaningless. Some apps never really get killed. They start again n again. So, use Autostarts instead task killers. But, here is a nice app for killing processes and freeing RAM. This is the original app. I have themed it to look good. Download it here.
Use it as a task killer, press menu button and include system processes and then start killing processes which are useless.
● Try to use apps as system apps.
● If you are using UC Browser then in its settings, check "Clear Data on Exit". If did, you will see UC will take less than 10mb but, if you wont do this, UC will take more than 15mb.
♦ IMPORTANT TIPS AND SETTINGS :
● Always flash rom with a clean wipe and proper flashing method.
● Do not flash gapps again if they are included in the rom.
● Do not flash internal memory scripts as they reduce performance.
● Use Adrenaline Boost. Boost once or twice a day. Boosting much will increase battery consumption.
● Use Root Cleaner app and freeze the apps which you are not using at that time. Freeze Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and other google apps which are always on. Unfreeze them when you want.
● The apps used for Backup purposes should not be installed always. Keep them in your sdcard and install them when you want and uninstall when done with them.
● Basic apps should always be in system/app.
● In Developer Options -
Set all animations scale to .5x
Set Background Process Limit to "Atmost 4 processes", if issues occur then set it back to "Standard Limit".
Enable "Kill App Back Button". Always use this feature to come out of the apps which do not really exit on pressing just back button.
● Do not expect much from our phone as it is not a high-end phone. Dont expect good battery life but, still to gain good battery life. Keep RAM free by using the ProcessKiller app as told above. I always get 170 mb RAM free.
● Do not charge battery until it gets discharged upto 10% or less. While charging do not remove it till it reaches 100% and 20 mins above that.
● Calibrate battery when needed.
● Avoid use of apps which are always running either in background or foreground.
● Press thanks. .
Thanks! I'm definetely going to try this out, even though I'm not running JB but ICS.
Deleting unneeded apps works on every Android version I think, and ActivoSpeeder works on ICS too, so I'm happy!
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Thanks! I'm definetely going to try this out, even though I'm not running JB but ICS. Deleting unneeded apps works on every Android version I think, and ActivoSpeeder works on ICS too, so I'm happy!
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As I hv mentioned in the title.. this method is for all ROMs.. It is not needed that you should be running JB only.. it is for all...
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
this made everything a lot more laggy and gmail stopped syncing... Also takes about 3 times as long to boot.
No offence, but this is pretty terrible. And after doing some actual research a lot of the "tweaks" you talk about here are never proven effective and frowned upon by actual experts. Even in the article you linked the writer says that something like dalvik heapsize is not something you should or have to change.
I would advice anyone to NOT waste any time on this.
ps: the last part (under tips and settings) is actually some good advice, although the background process limit is not saved in CM10 (and the max.mem tweak doesnt work), so you'll need to do that everytime at startup
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please dude if you don't know how to tweak you can go i don't use this guide but it's a good one maybe you installed all those thing over a already tweaked rom, this guide if for clean stock, cm7/9/10/10.1
Nice guide...but I think you are wrong about the services.jar. You have to patch it when you use ICS or Jelly Bean, not on GB. And there is no Official CM7 on Gio.
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please dude if you don't know how to tweak you can go i don't use this guide but it's a good one maybe you installed all those thing over a already tweaked rom, this guide if for clean stock, cm7/9/10/10.1
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I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.
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I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.
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Look in signature, this thread is also there for Fit as well as Mini and is getting good response all over.. but you are the first one to complain on this. My advice to you- DO NOT USE THIS DO NOT POST HERE!
Some of your sayings are correct but, still this is the best way to increase performance. You might have did something wrong because this has been researched by me and some other people that this guide is perfect for low activity devices like ace, fit, mini, but if you dont want to use then dont use. I have NO PROBLEM.(I really dont get money or anything for this). lol..
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Nice guide...but I think you are wrong about the services.jar. You have to patch it when you use ICS or Jelly Bean, not on GB. And there is no Official CM7 on Gio.
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Yeah services.jar needs to be patched on ics and jellybean only. I didnt knew that official cm7 is not there for gio.. I dont own this device. sorry.
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.
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okay go step by step and tell me what is it that is actually bothering you about the tweaking.(talk only about supercharger method not activ speedo).
yes most of the tweaks are utter bull**** The tweaks in the op(build prop ones are actually proven read the article again).As for dalvik size its recommended to keep a size around 48 so that you processes don't need to split their dalvik heaps into two separate piles thus reducing ram consumption.
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okay go step by step and tell me what is it that is actually bothering you about the tweaking.(talk only about supercharger method not activ speedo).
yes most of the tweaks are utter bull**** The tweaks in the op(build prop ones are actually proven read the article again).As for dalvik size its recommended to keep a size around 48 so that you processes don't need to split their dalvik heaps into two separate piles thus reducing ram consumption.
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I didnt use the supercharger method... The OP says the activo speedo is recommended, and the supercharger method is proposed as an alternative... I already said what problem I had with it (the response thing, and believe me or not, to me this difference is obvious and makes sense, I was able to reproduce it with just changing some of the same sysctl settings myself) but I wouldnt be surprised if there were more as it seems to do a buttload of things.
As far as the heapsize goes, I am not basing my conclusions on anything other than the OP's own link, which says things like:
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit and dalvik.vm.heapsize - BUSTED,
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This is one property that has cropped up recently in various build.prop recommendations for ICS. Typical suggested values range from “48m” all the way up to “256m”, likely motivated by the common misconception that more is better. The real purpose of this property is much less obvious than one might initially guess. It is also another one you should probably avoid changing.
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Should you change this setting? Probably not.
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Maybe you are right, I dont know all the technical implications, and I got no way to check it other than to test it and I see no difference in ram consumption if I change this property.
The ro.power.dissable thing might shut off wifi when in deep sleep and jumps back to mobile (I think, it happened after applying all tweaks and it seems the most likely thing to do that), but whatever causes that, you should warn people about that sort of thing as it can cost them money..
I didnt use it for long and I'm not an expert, i'm just sharing my findings, people can make up their own mind about it and share their experiences as well..
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Look in signature, this thread is also there for Fit as well as Mini and is getting good response all over.. but you are the first one to complain on this. My advice to you- DO NOT USE THIS DO NOT POST HERE!
Some of your sayings are correct but, still this is the best way to increase performance. You might have did something wrong because this has been researched by me and some other people that this guide is perfect for low activity devices like ace, fit, mini, but if you dont want to use then dont use. I have NO PROBLEM.(I really dont get money or anything for this). lol..
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Sorry, I didnt mean to offend you in any way and appreciate your effort... But telling me to stop posting just because I'm critical seems pretty backwards. If you only want people to say thanks and be greatful all the time, maybe you should start sharing horse pictures on a hello kitty forum...
I'm just sharing my experience and my problems might be related to my rom and it could very well work great on other phones or other roms... But I used a clean cm10.1, the CM10.1 rom almost everyone with a Gio uses, so I'd think it's still important to bring up my findings...
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
I didnt use the supercharger method... The OP says the activo speedo is recommended, and the supercharger method is proposed as an alternative... I already said what problem I had with it (the response thing, and believe me or not, to me this difference is obvious and makes sense, I was able to reproduce it with just changing some of the same sysctl settings myself) but I wouldnt be surprised if there were more as it seems to do a buttload of things.
As far as the heapsize goes, I am not basing my conclusions on anything other than the OP's own link, which says things like:
Maybe you are right, I dont know all the technical implications, and I got no way to check it other than to test it and I see no difference in ram consumption if I change this property.
The ro.power.dissable thing might shut off wifi when in deep sleep and jumps back to mobile (I think, it happened after applying all tweaks and it seems the most likely thing to do that), but whatever causes that, you should warn people about that sort of thing as it can cost them money..
I didnt use it for long and I'm not an expert, i'm just sharing my findings, people can make up their own mind about it and share their experiences as well..
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the ro.power.disable.ril actually causes the phones radio to go to sleep so if your mobile data is off there is no reason to switch on rather the wifi might switch off(devs already stated so) and again switch back on once you get out of deep sleep.
its a good thing that you are coming back to provide a feedback and is appreciated(at least should be).
the change for dalvik.vm larger than 48 only allows the heap to grow to that value then split into a new heap since we can't/shouldn't/don't use apps with such a large memory footprint the chances of a split occurring post 48mb(gb and below) and 64mb(ics and above) is highly unlikely hence the changing the value to a larger quantity will make no difference.
PS personally even i dont like activo mainly cause i dont know how it works rather i use supercharger and its a much better option in my opinion.
Sorry, I didnt mean to offend you in any way and appreciate your effort... But telling me to stop posting just because I'm critical seems pretty backwards. If you only want people to say thanks and be greatful all the time, maybe you should start sharing horse pictures on a hello kitty forum...
I'm just sharing my experience and my problems might be related to my rom and it could very well work great on other phones or other roms... But I used a clean cm10.1, the CM10.1 rom almost everyone with a Gio uses, so I'd think it's still important to bring up my findings...
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No, I already told you that many of your ideas are correct but, your way of expressing was not good.
Ex- You said that "Dont waste time on using this guide".
Now, if you think that was correct then please do not post again. If you are providing information then you can but, if you are telling people not to use this then dont post.
In fit's thread, Dark Passenger also wanted to express his ideas and wanted to help me. And I was happy about that. Because the way he helped me was like he really wanted to help. But, you was not polite as him.
You can ask Dark Passenger, there is a lot of information in the thread provided by him and I used that. And he never complained like you.
@Dark Passenger, please explain him.
OJ said:
No, I already told you that many of your ideas are correct but, your way of expressing was not good.
Ex- You said that "Dont waste time on using this guide".
Now, if you think that was correct then please do not post again. If you are providing information then you can but, if you are telling people not to use this then dont post.
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Yeah, I was frustrated and my first response was not really fair. I agree.
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
Yeah, I was frustrated and my first response was not really fair. I agree.
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When you use ics or jelly bean you need supercharger script and a patched services.jar (it's easy to do) because any other script don't works 100 % on it.
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