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[Q] GTA III - running really slowly

I've just installed the amaaazing GTA III ten-year anniversary edition on my Wildfire S. Everything loads, and I managed to find a decent HVGA version of the game data files.
Anyway, it's quite slow running at 600mhz on an unrooted stock rom. Anyway to speed it up a little? Is it because of RAM or CPU or what?
S-ON btw.

Dont think it will run it. All approved devices are dual core with pretty good graphics

imlgl said:
Dont think it will run it. All approved devices are dual core with pretty good graphics
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Hmm, but I seem to be running it perfectly in terms of graphics. Sound, video everything works and is playable.
It just lags a lot when trying to move around. Like playing in slow motion.
Most likely would work on alquez's kernal.

*se-nsei. said:
It just lags a lot when trying to move around. Like playing in slow motion.
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Well, look at the bright side. You can predict enemy moves and shoot 'em easily.

I wouldn't know unless I installed it. Could just be processing power.

Hahaha, yeah would need some more processing power I guess.

Link to the game and files? Would like to try on CM7. 2 @ 800mhz
Edit: found the game.

nzheavymetal said:
Link to the game and files? Would like to try on CM7. 2 @ 800mhz
Edit: found the game.
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link me to the game please?

No chance of running this on wildfire s guys, this game needs a lot of power.
Tried on my cm7.2.1 overclocked to 806mhz runs like crap, don't waste your time with the 500mb+ data download you'll just be disappointed.
Oh and your phone will heat up like the core of the sun.

The game is on the market, and a few other places but yes doesn't run well at all.

what's the size of apk you installed....

http://www.mediafire.com/?xk8bdqrrrd7yk76
Try this one, this is the ripped version of data pack from Andropalace.com

You can't use the files that the game downloads itself. Find the seperately ported HVGA files.
It does run nicely, it's just slow people.

on my WFS long time ago (1 week) when i was S-ON it run smoothly, people never lag... now, i have rooted WFS with CM7.2 @ 806MHz and it have 2FPS... hate beta CM7..

As much as i have used it....it runs fine on the stock rom without sound,but it lagged like hell on CM7(YES!!WITHOUT SOUND FILES!!)

csoulr666 said:
As much as i have used it....it runs fine on the stock rom without sound,but it lagged like hell on CM7(YES!!WITHOUT SOUND FILES!!)
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Looks like the hardware acceleration doesn't work in CM7.
Desire-Oxygen2.3.2 | WFS-stock

BeciMester said:
Looks like the hardware acceleration doesn't work in CM7.
Desire-Oxygen2.3.2 | WFS-stock
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It sure look like it

I hope that alquez add hardware acceleration in next stable release

I had installed it, and on CM7.2 with 806MHz it still runs very slow. There's probably no chance of it running well on this phone, and to be honest, the controls for it will suck anyway. I have my old PS2. I might buy the original again.

I also tryed this, but it's very slow, i just waste my time. :S

The Galaxy Nexus, even with roms, is not as fast as the Exynos GSII

I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus and it has AOKP build 25 with Fugomod kernel on it and this thing still is laggy. I tried many different roms and kernels and it still lags. I'm pretty sure my GSII was faster.
Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram.
What's the deal? Why is it lagging (stock keyboard, browsing, app drawer, etc)
And I'm not trying to "bash". I want to keep the phone but the slowness is frustrating.
UPDATE 2/27/11 - I wiped my phone and flashed the Apex 1.02 Rom and now the phone is really fast. Some occasional hiccups but not a big deal.
I'm a very happy GN owner now.

You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..

bk201doesntexist said:
You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..
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I accidentally posted it in a thread I was reading.

You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.

Aridon said:
You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.

I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

I came from an E4GT and my GN feels just as fast.

Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

OMG MEGAHERTZ PROCESSOR RACE!!1
I don't quite get it. Is this a pissing contest? The Gnex runs way fast for a cellphone.
Maybe I'm getting old.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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cablemike01 said:
I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?

psycho2097 said:
Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.

crossover37 said:
I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.
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Unsure about that poster's experience, but 18.4 is awesome for me, and so far synergises really well with CM9.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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You said:
"Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram."
That is so far outside the norm that you are either trolling, have a defective device or flashed and did something so screwed up that its messing with your device. So either:
1. Do a complete wipe, including formatting data, cache, dalvik and system. Install AOKP, gaaps with trinity kernel (basic one for all devices). Reboot. Download auto start manager and kill anything like maps or talk that you don't want running at startup. Go into settings and set cpu to 1.2, 400mhz with on demand or performance scaling. Set on boot checked. Reboot. Then tell me the phone is slow.
2. Don't use live wall paper. Most of them are not optimized for ICS
3. Return your device and get another one its broken.

My laptop is faster than your GSII.

crossover37 said:
Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?
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because google knows this is already powerful enough and the only place that it would make a difference is in benchmarks. Remember the nexus is the reference phone the developers are supposed to base their applications on. So in theory all app should run perfectly on all nexus devices. Basically any app made in 2012 should run perfectly on this phone. Think of it this way this is the minimum hardware requirements for apps and if a manufacturer goes beyond the specs its all gravy basically bragging rights but realistically this device has more than enough power to handle what google intended it for.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

I'll play since I've recently made the jump as well and I think I'm coming in with an "unbiased" opinion. Keep in mind I'm much happier with my GN than I was with my I9100, which I'm also keeping at least until kernel source is released for ICS. Using CM9 on the Nexus and using CM9 on the SGSII, no comparison for me, Nexus wins, hands down as far as fluidity and feel goes, ignoring the fact that so many things still don't work on the SGSII.
There are ever so slight cpu and gpu advantages that I've noticed on the SGSII. Very occasionally might be felt as a lag or stutter. For the most part however I find the GN "smoother" over all. Alternative launchers (Nova) lag for me on the GN going in/out of the app drawer, but removing widgets from the app drawer cured that. I may have to wait an extra second, maybe two, for the desktop to be fully fluid following a boot. I've never experienced keyboard lag, or alike.
In the end however, I didn't buy the GN because I thought it would kill the SGSII performance wise and the specs didn't lead me to believe that would be the case. A couple of non-performance or Android related things I really appreciate are the feel of the phone in my hand, and the action of the buttons. What I used to jokingly refer to as the "panty liner shape" of the phone is comfortable in my pocket.
It might take some more kernel experimenting on your part to find one that feels good for you. When I was on AOKP I found Leankernel to be absolutely buttery. Slight cpu/gpu advantages aside, I feel that the GN is the better phone overall and it's still a bloody fast unit, and my next device will be a Nexus as well. I'd say 95% of the time the phone feels as fast, and potentially more fluid, than my old phone.

So this year we're gonna have all these new quad core phones coming out which is great, but when the new version of android comes out we will get it right away and all those new quad core phones will be waiting up to a year to get it and by then the new version of android will be out yet again. You don't get a nexus phone for it's powerful processor look for it support and long term commitment. I had 5 android phones in the last year and I will never get anything other then a nexus because of all the stress I had trying to get updates for my other phones. My last phone the optimus 3 d was a very good phone butwe just got gingerbread a few weeks ago and lg is saying we will get ice cream sandwich in the third quarter f 2012. By then my nexus phone will probably have the new version of android. And I'm sure that lg will be dropping support for that phone because they'll have a new 1 out. But my nexus phone will most likely be supported through 2013.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^

TheRiceKing said:
The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
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Not quite. Not sure about the exact memory channel speed but they both utilize same exact memory setup dual channel LPDDR2
OMAP was the SoC that Google chose
It's essentially a terrible choice with grossly outdated gpu in a platform where GPU will start to drive every day operation
This isn't to say that Mali400MP setup is the greatest in the GPU choice but eventhough it's inefficient, it's able to push through with raw power
I may get a bit of flake for this but Nexus does micro-stutter in some instances in places like the stock app drawer (this is addressed with nova launcher but question was does the GNex stutter).
I wouldn't blame the slight lagginess or stutters on the hardware just yet seeing how ICS is still fairly new and there is also the issue with maturity of apps running ICS.

Thanks guys for your responses. I'm not trying to be a pain; just annoyed that my old phone felt smoother.
I installed Apex rom and so far it feels very fast so hopefully it will stay this way. I kept the kernel that was packaged with the rom.
Another reason I thought it was slow was because I would type on the desktop site of XDA. Using the app doesn't cause the keyboard lag. It still is strange why the keyboard would lag like that while posting on XDA.

How is GFX performance in JB?

Im asking since i just got my Nexus about a week ago and immediatly flashed JB stock ROM. My gripe with the Nexus before JB was the weak-ish GPU it had which made me steer away from it until JB announcement just made me get it no questions. Now im testing ShadowGun and it plays perfectly smooth and Quadrant 2D/3D benchmarks always are at or near 60fps. Since i did not have a Nexus in the ICS days, are GFX/Games better in JB or was performance the same? Because i underestimated the GPU before but its doing a great job so far in my tests... note to self: Just try the damn thing and forget the specs on paper *lesson learned
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

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Im asking since i just got my Nexus about a week ago and immediatly flashed JB stock ROM. My gripe with the Nexus before JB was the weak-ish GPU it had which made me steer away from it until JB announcement just made me get it no questions. Now im testing ShadowGun and it plays perfectly smooth and Quadrant 2D/3D benchmarks always are at or near 60fps. Since i did not have a Nexus in the ICS days, are GFX/Games better in JB or was performance the same? Because i underestimated the GPU before but its doing a great job so far in my tests... note to self: Just try the damn thing and forget the specs on paper *lesson learned
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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about quadrant and the 59fps.. our devices are capped at 59fps. plus, our screen resolution is larger than most other devices, more pixels to push. so, at 59fps, it still looks great, on ics and jellybean. in jellybean we did gain a few more fps, but not in quadrant. if you want, go to the the main settings, developer settings, enable force gpu rendering. things will look a bit better, in the ui especially and in apps that can use gpu rendering. the "weak" gpu is just a myth that the media has scared us with.

I'm in ICS 4.0.4 and I feel sometimes Shadowgun doen't play all that smooth... don't know if it gets better in JB... but it's not 60fps... no way...

Marcio_Bianco said:
I'm in ICS 4.0.4 and I feel sometimes Shadowgun doen't play all that smooth... don't know if it gets better in JB... but it's not 60fps... no way...
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run nenamark2, thats the real fps that youre getting with some 3D games. using trinity kernel, i get 38.2fps. stock was around 31fps, if i remember right).

simms22 said:
run nenamark2, thats the real fps that youre getting with some 3D games. using trinity kernel, i get 38.2fps. stock was around 31fps, if i remember right).
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FTFY

adrynalyne said:
FTFY
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oh yea, thanks

simms22 said:
run nenamark2, thats the real fps that youre getting with some 3D games. using trinity kernel, i get 38.2fps. stock was around 31fps, if i remember right).
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thanks, I'll give it a try...
what about stock ICS vs. stock JB? any increase in gaming performance? or fps in nenamark?
EDIT: just ran nenamark, and got 26.6 fps...

My SGH-i747M get so laggy in Metal Slug 3

I had ask the same question in the international version S3 user they don't have lag problem.
I have no idea what happening on my phone, or North America S3 isnt good enough for this game?
Thank you

StrikeXJacky said:
I had ask the same question in the international version S3 user they don't have lag problem.
I have no idea what happening on my phone, or North America S3 isnt good enough for this game?
Thank you
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Perhaps because the international version is quad core and the US version (at least AT&T) is dual core.

Dual_Everything said:
Perhaps because the international version is quad core and the US version (at least AT&T) is dual core.
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but how comes S4CPU can't play games...

It can...and does
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Mystery
I have issues with very simple game called Jewels v1.1.4. It's just slow, laggy and overall f-up. But - I have no issues with the same game on Samsung Captivate with AOSP, and on HP Touchpad with CM9 it is actually much faster.
Mystery. That's why I'm looking forward to stabler AOKP and/or CM10.
And Quadrant shows 60fps most of the time. So I guess problem is with the apps+stock ROM.

StrikeXJacky said:
I had ask the same question in the international version S3 user they don't have lag problem.
I have no idea what happening on my phone, or North America S3 isnt good enough for this game?
Thank you
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are you playing the game in power savings mode? if you are maybe that's the issue

Death&co said:
are you playing the game in power savings mode? if you are maybe that's the issue
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no I'm playing this game without power saving

What ROM are you using?

boostnek9 said:
What ROM are you using?
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Samsung offical ROM

Dual_Everything said:
Perhaps because the international version is quad core and the US version (at least AT&T) is dual core.
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lol No

Man, I recently installed the amazing spiderman and the graphics are just awful, I mean the sgs2 performs better :S Anyone have any idea whats going on, every game I download doesn't look anything like the ones in the screenshots, looks like old GBA style graphics lol.

Intercrew said:
Man, I recently installed the amazing spiderman and the graphics are just awful, I mean the sgs2 performs better :S Anyone have any idea whats going on, every game I download doesn't look anything like the ones in the screenshots, looks like old GBA style graphics lol.
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What rom/kernel you running ?

ghost77 said:
What rom/kernel you running ?
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Just rooted stock ROM and kernel. Not to mention some texture glitches that are in the distant until you get near it. Pretty fun game but so ugly to play lol.. would be lovely to play similar to the screen shots/gameplay video

Slow
Have you tried to clear Dalvik Links and wipe cache partition? - Boot into recovery and and wipe cache partition and then clear you dalvik links which clears memory. See if that doesn't help speed you up some.
- txpigkiller -

GTA 3 Lag on S3?

i've been playing a few games on my Rogers S3. Most games play perfectly like riptide, but for some reason GTA 3 is really laggy. Is anyone else having the same problem and is there a fix for this? I thought S3s shouldnt have problems with games. BTW, im on the CM10 nightly rom.
I've tried all different settings, but there is still some lag regardless.

It's fine on my s3. I was getting tons of lag with that auto haptic feature turned on though

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It's fine on my s3. I was getting tons of lag with that auto haptic feature turned on though
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im using CM10 rom, and i dont think i have that feature, so it shouldnt be the problem

I'm running stock with the ktooz (I think that's hoe you spell it..) kernel OC'd to 1.65 Ghz; no lag whatsoever with pretty much any setting. There's the occasional stutter here and there but I'm assuming it's less lag than on your device. What's your setup? (Anything that you might think could be the cause)
Sent from my SGH-I747M using xda premium

maybe because your on cm.
or maybe gta isnt optimized for the s4 chip yet? maybe

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maybe because your on cm.
or maybe gta isnt optimized for the s4 chip yet? maybe
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Nah, can't be. I'm running GTA fine with the S4 chip. Must be CM..

My friends CM S3 seems to get half the scores of my stock in any benchmark we compare in. I assumed it was the beta nature of CM 10. I wold think that high end games would suffer from the drop in overall performance too.

Yep, CM still has some ground to cover with regards to video performance. Qualcomm is still releasing driver support.

Solution
Hey Guys! I found a solution for you and myself if you are experiencing this problem with stock firmware! GTA 3 was also stuttery and laggy from time to time on my S3. What I did was I turned Power Saving feature to OFF and now it works like a charm! Smooth butter gameplay with no frameskips at all. Try it and report if it works for you guys! Good luck! :victory: