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Root after Ota?

I have s off and I'm rooted in stock rom with cwm installed. Will accepting the ota get rid of root? S off? Will I be able to root afterwards if it does?
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Yes it will get rid of root...and you will not be able to root again most likely for a while. Stay where you are and wait for the upgraded Rom to be rooted and packaged for you to flash
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Thank you. Just saved me some grief
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Does anyone know where the ota downloads to? I can root it so people who have s-off can flash it, but not sure where it is downloading to. Checked in cache and its not going there.

cvo515 said:
Yes it will get rid of root...and you will not be able to root again most likely for a while. Stay where you are and wait for the upgraded Rom to be rooted and packaged for you to flash
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Nevermind, it self destructs if you cancel the update. How to get the zip, hmmm.

does the new update add much if i already have CM7 installed, or do i need to goto stock eventually, flash the new radios and stuff then go back to CM7? Kinda new to this and just trying to get everything right, thanks

Rmk40 just posted a Rom over in the development section that is pretty much the ota minus the bloat
Carelessly swyped on my phone so there may be some weird typos

kingsway8605 said:
Nevermind, it self destructs if you cancel the update. How to get the zip, hmmm.
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man after all the crap you said about root, you don't even deserve free root.

andybones said:
man after all the crap you said about root, you don't even deserve free root.
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glad i'm not the only one thinking it.

tspderek said:
glad i'm not the only one thinking it.
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I'm not one to bash on people either but I agree this guy could have ruined it for everyone. Thankfully alpha kept a better standard. Software root came quicker than it did for the DInc1 and the Inc2 WAS the most locked down phone known to Verizon. Impressive to say the least. Also credit to Raskal and XTC clip as he did need hardware. but I bet the guy could make software root, just makes more money on the clip lol. can't blame him though, it is worth it if it's the only option. IMO

ACD168 said:
I'm not one to bash on people either but I agree this guy could have ruined it for everyone. Thankfully alpha kept a better standard. Software root came quicker than it did for the DInc1 and the Inc2 WAS the most locked down phone known to Verizon. Impressive to say the least. Also credit to Raskal and XTC clip as he did need hardware. but I bet the guy could make software root, just makes more money on the clip lol. can't blame him though, it is worth it if it's the only option. IMO
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How exactly could he have ruined it for everyone by saying he didnt think root would be achieved? You think Alpha woulda gave up their attemtps in annoyance because he was the one naysayer? get real. people are entitled to their opinions and he disagreed and when perm root was achieved he mentioned how embarrassed he felt in multiple treads. I think he has been humiliated enough and we should all move on to enjoying root now...
/back on topic now...

MJL99 said:
How exactly could he have ruined it for everyone by saying he didnt think root would be achieved? You think Alpha woulda gave up their attemtps in annoyance because he was the one naysayer? get real. people are entitled to their opinions and he disagreed and when perm root was achieved he mentioned how embarrassed he felt in multiple treads. I think he has been humiliated enough and we should all move on to enjoying root now...
/back on topic now...
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I wouldn't say I was humiliated. It really is just a phone. Did admit I was wrong about alpha rev though. If people hold a grudge over a phone, they really need a life, just saying.
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One click root?

Just wondering if there is a one click root for the Desire Z yet. I have the version from singapoore. Thanks.

From what I have seen, there is no definite one-click root solution as of now. Don't bet on this though, as I am not completely sure. The tutorial for gfree is easy though, just a little bit of typing.
BTW, this belongs in the Q&A section (for future reference).

Just use the rage/gfree tutorial found on the CyanogenMod Wiki and stay away from Visionary.
And for future reference, threads like these go in Q&A.

It seems like the closes to one click would be Lyriquidperfection's AMT thing for Windows. From thread posts it seems like it works.
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No there isn't...
Use the search...
Read the stickies...
Read some topics...
Many people have gone before you, do not disrespect them by not reading. If you do not read, you will awaken the XDA developers G2/Vision curse on your phone! It will never work again and you will always be stuck on STOCK!!!!

What everybody else said. It took me two full weeks of reading these boards before I felt comfortable enough to root my G2. Just search and read and read and read. Eventually you will get to a point where rooting is as easy as riding a bike. Good luck!
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Why is this still in the dev section?
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Ok thanks for the replys guys. I did do a search and found all the info on how to flash but just seems like a long process and easy to stuff up. Just wanted to make sure for sure there wasn't a one click solution as I made that mistake with my Desire before getting my Desire Z.
Cheers .

danielhtc said:
Ok thanks for the replys guys. I did do a search and found all the info on how to flash but just seems like a long process and easy to stuff up. Just wanted to make sure for sure there wasn't a one click solution as I made that mistake with my Desire before getting my Desire Z.
Cheers .
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The root process for the DZ should take no longer than 30 minutes. Just use a computer with ADB set up and download everything.

blackknightavalon said:
The root process for the DZ should take no longer than 30 minutes. Just use a computer with ADB set up and download everything.
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Spend a week planing it like I did and you can do it in about 10 minutes

cjward23 said:
Spend a week planing it like I did and you can do it in about 10 minutes
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Spend a week planning it and do it in ten minutes (total = 10,090 minutes) or read over the checklist a couple times and do it in a half-hour (total = 60 minutes). Let me think about that.

blackknightavalon said:
Spend a week planning it and do it in ten minutes (total = 10,090 minutes) or read over the checklist a couple times and do it in a half-hour (total = 60 minutes). Let me think about that.
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Lol, I've been waiting for a replacement phone for a month, so in anticipation I have read the rooting guide a lot.

cjward23 said:
Lol, I've been waiting for a replacement phone for a month, so in anticipation I have read the rooting guide a lot.
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Maybe you should call and ask what the status on it is.
Sent from a Western Union telegram.

blackknightavalon said:
The root process for the DZ should take no longer than 30 minutes. Just use a computer with ADB set up and download everything.
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Can you kindly tell me if this guide will still work with 1.82.707.1 which is what I have. The guide is for 1.72 firmware. Cheers.

danielhtc said:
Can you kindly tell me if this guide will still work with 1.82.707.1 which is what I have. The guide is for 1.72 firmware. Cheers.
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I really don't know. You could always ask one of the devs.

blackknightavalon said:
I really don't know. You could always ask one of the devs.
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Did some reading around and came to the conclusion that it was ok as others had flashed from 1.82 versions.
I ended up using the guide here Root AND Downgrade Desire Z/G2(S-OFF/ClockWorkMod)
Had a few headches getting the gold card working but all went well and now its rooted and have installed the CyanogenMod and all going well so far .

need help

so I just got a new EVO with the Gingerbread 2.3.3 already on it.I cant not find a way to root it or get S-off can someone please help
build number is 4.22.651.2
I know ill get into trouble by posting this here but oo well at this point I dont care

Take the OTA. Should root it and give you admin powers to all the worlds nukes. :-D lmao! geeze. there isn't even a reason to use the search. the answer is right on the main pages!
BUT really. not joking about the OTA. just wait a few weeks. Sure HTC will submit an update for sprint to send to us. oh wait, sprint would NEVER let us have that update. haha they would make sure we couldn't root it. Well, search temp root for the evo.

runcool said:
Take the OTA. Should root it and give you admin powers to all the worlds nukes. :-D lmao! geeze. there isn't even a reason to use the search. the answer is right on the main pages!
BUT really. not joking about the OTA. just wait a few weeks. Sure HTC will submit an update for sprint to send to us. oh wait, sprint would NEVER let us have that update. haha they would make sure we couldn't root it. Well, search temp root for the evo.
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if you could post a link that would help..I've been trying since 1pm

Kid, your not even trying. Let me help you. There is NO root/s-off for 2.3.3 on the evo yet. Your gonna have to wait.
snowboardkid503 said:
if you could post a link that would help..I've been trying since 1pm
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mikeyinid said:
Kid, your not even trying. Let me help you. There is NO root/s-off for 2.3.3 on the evo yet. Your gonna have to wait.
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is there a temp root and ive seen video's about downgrade to 2.2 but idk I cant do it

Look man, I usually don't post replies like this but seriously this question if getting annoying. Look at this point there is no ROOT for this OTA that also includes a temp root....its really right in your face and plastered all over this forum. If you just checked Q&A section or even General section you would find it. Or even if you searched this forum itself you would have seen people like yourself post the same exact question.

HTC will be adding magical powers to the next OTA update. :-D
HOWEVER, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET HTC-signed files. BOOM ROOTED!

There is no Easter Bunny, over there that's just a guy in a suit!

Run unrevoked one click while your phone is in the microwave.
This next step is very important, the microwave must be in the "on" position
This achieves full s off root. Worked without problems for me.
True story bro
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Ok after I have the microwave in the "on" position how long do I set the time for? Also if I have a 3d should I wear the glasses? Will that help. Please reply asap!
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I guess these posts are going to become the 'norm' with the EVO becoming a budget device. Same thing happened to the HeroC.
"I bought me a Sprint HTC Hero but where do I put my AT&T SIM card? Anyone help? LOLsss "

If the microwave on trick doesnt work you can always try what I did to get S-Off.
Simply climb a telephone poll and plug your phone directly into the power line. Once you do that you need to flap your arms six times and screem "I'm a pretty birdy" as loud as you can so thst the voice to text on your phone can pick it up. Once you do that unplug your phone and you will have s-off.
Sent from my HTC EVO View. 7" of 4g fury!

StormMcCloud said:
If the microwave on trick doesnt work you can always try what I did to get S-Off.
Simply climb a telephone poll and plug your phone directly into the power line. Once you do that you need to flap your arms six times and screem "I'm a pretty birdy" as loud as you can so thst the voice to text on your phone can pick it up. Once you do that unplug your phone and you will have s-off.
Sent from my HTC EVO View. 7" of 4g fury!
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Stuck up on telephone pole after ladder fell down.. Did what you said and still no s/off. I even tried yelling before flapping my wings, after flapping my wings and while flapping my wings. I think I may have been tricked.... You're a ****.

Go to radio shack and get cool with the service guys. Have them call u when someone swaps a evo with 2.2 for for evo3d. Then swap your phone with there's. If it means anything to u really to be rooted get a 2.2 evo off Craigslist and then sell your evo back on it. Sprint wont be allowing no more unlocked devices if its up to them. They not stupid, I'm sure the techs troll these type websites. When the next firmware update arrives they gonna do it again. If it means that much take it upon ya self to get a rooted device or 2.2 evo. At this point late in the game you gotta pay to play.
Sent from evo

To achieve root with the latest OTA simply shove the EVO in your anal canal. This will confuse the phone and force it to root unrevoked style. Once you relieve yourself of the anal obstruction you will be fully rooted. Try it and see!

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fsalazar504 said:
To achieve root with the latest OTA simply shove the EVO in your anal canal. This will confuse the phone and force it to root unrevoked style. Once you relieve yourself of the anal obstruction you will be fully rooted. Try it and see!
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OMG! THIS WORKS! NO JOKE PEOPLE! IT REALLY WORKS! I also tried the climbing of the electric pole and hooking my evo 3d upto the hardline and a secret government script that is monitoring all our phone calls rooted my phone for me! This is really great!
lmao!!!

i think mine got stuck in my anal canal...not funny guys...hate you all...

You ever leave a sarcastic comment on one of these threads, then watch in horror all the other sarcastic ideas? Yea that just happened to me. XD
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StormMcCloud said:
If the microwave on trick doesnt work you can always try what I did to get S-Off.
Simply climb a telephone poll and plug your phone directly into the power line. Once you do that you need to flap your arms six times and screem "I'm a pretty birdy" as loud as you can so thst the voice to text on your phone can pick it up. Once you do that unplug your phone and you will have s-off.
Sent from my HTC EVO View. 7" of 4g fury!
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On a side note, how are you liking your view?
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Zac95 said:
On a side note, how are you liking your view?
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I love it, there is no root out for it yet (much like 2.3.3 for the evo) but other then that it is fantastic. It is odd switching from it to my evo and thinking man this is a tiny phone.
Sent from my HTC EVO View. 7" of 4g fury!

Flash galaxy nexus GSM with JB

Hi!
I want to flash my brothers Nexus to JB.
I found this link where its step to step guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170
Problem is that I don't know if the GN has a locked or unlocked bootloader as stock?
I guess it's the method 2 i should use if the phone is all stock with unlocked bootloader?
If its locked bootloader how can i unlock the bootloader?
Thanks for all help on beforehand!
Best regards,
DanVazz

since you can write in proper English, one can assume that you can read as well, did you try searching before posting this? its very simple go get the nexus toolkit here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310 << then to check if you have a locked or unlocked bootloader, restart the phone, if you see a black screen with just GOOGLE written on it, your bootloader is locked. If you see a black screen with google and a white lock on the bottom it is unlocked. GOod luck with your flashing

ed116 said:
since you can write in proper English, one can assume that you can read as well, did you try searching before posting this? its very simple go get the nexus toolkit here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310 << then to check if you have a locked or unlocked bootloader, restart the phone, if you see a black screen with just GOOGLE written on it, your bootloader is locked. If you see a black screen with google and a white lock on the bottom it is unlocked. GOod luck with your flashing
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Don't recommend toolkits. OP already has the right link to flash JB, and just needs to follow the steps.
OP, just read and follow the guide. The phone does not have an unlocked bootloader stock. Unless you've unlocked it, it is still locked and you'll unlock before you can flash. Although the kit notes it several times, remember that the procedure will completely wipe your device.

DanVazz said:
Hi!
I want to flash my brothers Nexus to JB.
I found this link where its step to step guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170
Problem is that I don't know if the GN has a locked or unlocked bootloader as stock?
I guess it's the method 2 i should use if the phone is all stock with unlocked bootloader?
If its locked bootloader how can i unlock the bootloader?
Thanks for all help on beforehand!
Best regards,
DanVazz
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Everything is in the first post of that link. Not post #2.
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since you can write in proper English, one can assume that you can read as well, did you try searching before posting this? its very simple go get the nexus toolkit here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909

Tool kits are an option...its like plug in hit button ....donate for days and nights of research that in my opinion you should do if your not a dev....this ain't 101...I'm in process getting my first replacement and haven't even paid my first sprint bill ....ntm gf hates me (which is fine) but anyway gnex toolkit will save a lot time.....
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1homeboi said:
Tool kits are an option...its like plug in hit button ....donate for days and nights of research that in my opinion you should do if your not a dev....this ain't 101...I'm in process getting my first replacement and haven't even paid my first sprint bill ....ntm gf hates me (which is fine) but anyway gnex toolkit will save a lot time.....
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That's you opinion, and I respect that. But if you want to drive a car, you take lessons and get licensed. If you want to own an Android smart phone, there are no lessons and no license. So, if you want to muck around with your phone, you need to have a bit of knowledge about how it works so you can help yourself out of messes, whether you're a dev or not (and I am not). So yes, this is 101. And besides, this is xda-developers.com not xda-fixmybrokendevice.com: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45

It takes literally 4 lines to type or copy to flash using Adb. I don't know what's so hard bout it.

atifsh said:
It takes literally 4 lines to type or copy to flash using Adb. I don't know what's so hard bout it.
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typing. its the hard part.

atifsh said:
It takes literally 4 lines to type or copy to flash using Adb. I don't know what's so hard bout it.
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I agree with you.
What's hard is that people can't be bothered to read a bit to be able to type in a few lines. Everyone wants a 1-click.

efrant said:
I agree with you.
What's hard is that people can't be bothered to read a bit to be able to type in a few lines. Everyone wants a 1-click.
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Fear of CLI syndrome. GUI obsession. Or just the ever-present feeling that "ignorance is bliss". You pick.
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Zepius said:
typing. its the hard part.
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You can always copy paste using mouse.

atifsh said:
You can always copy paste using mouse.
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I think Zep was being sarcastic...

efrant said:
I think Zep was being sarcastic...
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No I wasn't /sarcasm
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I respect that ...and agree ...in a perfect world it would be easy to kick back and study up .....I only meant its not always basic and if you don't have time to do the research or work twelve hours in s. Mississippi heat digging irrigation lines come home to two kids four dogs a cat and a fking ***** ...its easy to get distracted....and penalties for mistakes are real....so I'm sure everyone doesnt rely as heavily on their device as I do so its different for everyone but anyway its all good ....my PHP.e is my work...my personal...my cell....my home ...helly only line of communication...so what the hell ..you only live once.....
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Don't use the tool kit.
efrant and jubakuba have written excellent guides.
So many people are lost once there use of the tool kits fail.
A little bit of learning will save you a lot of pain.

shall i root or wait

so im pondering cus my fingers are twitching , do i root now or wait for s-off then root. or wait till after next ota then root???? opinions??

First thing you should do is search its been asked before. personally i am satisfied with stock so far. So its not too hard to wait for s-off. i have Desire as well so if i feel like flashing ill play with that
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tadas_max said:
First thing you should do is search its been asked before. personally i am satisfied with stock so far. So its not too hard to wait for s-off. i have Desire as well so if i feel like flashing ill play with that
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yes my friend i no i should search, but its not lke searching for a problem to fixc is it. it asking advice , but thanks for your input maybe ill fidlle with my desire to for now.

If you desperately want to root and your phone doesnt have any hardware issues do it now. But your warranty will be void by using HTCDev. If you can wait and I would, wait until we get S-OFF then you can do it without HTC knowing.

Don't think s off will ever be possible to be honest.that was the reason I went ahead and rooted.
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Phillmitchell said:
Don't think s off will ever be possible to be honest.that was the reason I went ahead and rooted.
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ahh never say never, im sure the devs or alpharev or somebody will break it somehow!!

I had the same dilemma.
Finally I've unlocked, and rooted, because I'm very impatient.
I think if/when we will have S-OFF, then we will be able, to revert it to "LOCKED" (and not RELOCKED), and we will be able, to erase any trace of hacking/moddding. Then they will have no ground to void the warranty.

To root, or not to root, that is the question.
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer

tadas_max said:
First thing you should do is search its been asked before. personally i am satisfied with stock so far. So its not too hard to wait for s-off. i have Desire as well so if i feel like flashing ill play with that
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Same here.
I can wait, but to be honest, I'm very impatient to see new OTA from HTC.
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WiZARD7 said:
I had the same dilemma.
Finally I've unlocked, and rooted, because I'm very impatient.
I think if/when we will have S-OFF, then we will be able, to revert it to "LOCKED" (and not RELOCKED), and we will be able, to erase any trace of hacking/moddding. Then they will have no ground to void the warranty.
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I thought that once you use HTC's official process they have it logged on their system, as they give you an individual token for your device? Is this something that could be removed? I always thought that once you cross that line there's no going back as they must store it on a server somewhere.
Anyhow I'm teetering closer and closer to using htcdev.com but always end up telling myself to wait another few days......been watching that s-off development thread like a hawk.

I used htc dev to unlock it and never locked back.
It's much smoother with ROMs like ARHD which means a better user experience to me. Stock didn't really satisfy me, because Sense lacked from time to time
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think ill wait a while see if any ugly issues show up on the phone, i mean i didnt root my desire for a whole year, ( cus i did not know of its existence!!)
but hopefully with s-off we can go back to stock without htc knowing!!

DrumJ86 said:
I thought that once you use HTC's official process they have it logged on their system, as they give you an individual token for your device? Is this something that could be removed? I always thought that once you cross that line there's no going back as they must store it on a server somewhere.
Anyhow I'm teetering closer and closer to using htcdev.com but always end up telling myself to wait another few days......been watching that s-off development thread like a hawk.
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yes, maybe they loggint, that you ask for the token.
but I think that doesn't mean that you used it. you can change your mind after you received it, or you can be noob, and you can't use it...
so it would be very bizarre, that they void the warranty because on some website you ask for a tool.
(if you have a gun in your hand, it doesn't mean you are a killer)

Was in the same boat as yourself. But rooted anyway and haven't looked back. Thank god I don't have to deal with Sense anymore.

i waited so much time... one week ago i said stop and i unlocked/rooted and installed cm10 much better!