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Sorry if this is a stupid noob question but can someone tell me exactly if Nandroid Restore will recover these things:
Apps
Email accounts (Exchange) and all email/attachments
Settings
Call History
Text Messages
Picture Mail
I don't know why it's so hard to find this out but if you could help me out I would appreciate it. As I want to make my NAND fully unlocked but I don't want to have to lose everything as I'm on the road and don't want to redownload and setup on a 1x roaming network. Thanks in advance.
Yeah, nandroid is basically a system image. It keeps all your apps, settings and other information backed up exactly as it was when you made the backup.
Sorry, not that I don't believe you but can someone else confirm, as I said I don't want to get into a situation where I don't have the setup (since I'm not at home) where I can afford to do a restore.
superlinkx said:
Yeah, nandroid is basically a system image. It keeps all your apps, settings and other information backed up exactly as it was when you made the backup.
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what he said but feel free to not believe me also...
Thank you both!
lol I love peeps when they ask for so-called "second opinion" and they say "..not that I don't believe you" meaning, I don't believe you....haha j/k
Yeah nandroid backup/restore will basically put EVERYTHING back to where it was before, and not missing a single bit of it. It helped saves me lots of times because I flash all sorts of different ROMs from others to my own. I have a base ROM that I really like setup to where I like and nandroid backup, and restore when I want to get back to where I was in minutes. Loving DROID!
Two tools I can't live without: Nandroid and Titanium Backup.
Like vboyz103, I have a particular ROM fully configured and backed up via Nandroid. If I'm in the middle of playing around and have to run out the door, I can always nandroid restore that image and know I have a reliable phone to take with me. When I make that nandroid backup, I also do a backup with Titanium...
When I install a new ROM, the first thing I do is hit the market and download Titanium Backup. I run it and do a restore, and all my apps are then restored on to the new image, without having to go download them one-by-one. Once everything is back in place and I'm ready to start using it, I do another nandroid backup and save it as a "base" image of that particular ROM. If I screw it up, I can just nandroid restore that base image of that particular ROM.
That's my routine, I'm sure there are other methods that people prefer!
Didnt want to start a new thread just to ask another nandroid restore question.
Should you wipe data/dalvik before you nandroid restore?
XpAcErX said:
Didnt want to start a new thread just to ask another nandroid restore question.
Should you wipe data/dalvik before you nandroid restore?
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No, when you do a nandroid restore, the caches are replaced as well.
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No, when you do a nandroid restore, the caches are replaced as well.
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thank you
I'm new to Rooting and I was wondering if I flashed lets say to a new rom weather it is 2.2 or 2.1 and I don't like it or something dosen't work. Can I just flash the most current nandroid backup to return or do I have to flash the old rom that I was using then the nandroid backup on top of that ??
Using Rooted Evo with OMJ update 147.651.1
You sure can as long as the new ROM you flash is also a rooted ROM.
So basically I can jump from rom to rom to see what I like and just flash my backup to return to the original.... Cool.thanks
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Just returned to a nand backup last night. First time ever and worked fine...(I did a titanium backup first as had messages and app changes.)
How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone
uniquenameevo said:
How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone
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Nope you havent missed anything Thats what i do all the time I believe for a certain period of time something else backs up texts as well because i often get all my texts back after a few minutes even those after the nandroid.
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
All I needed to know, thanks!
I'll only rotate 2.2 roms, no need to look back, but I appreciate that note also.
fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I use MyBackup to backup APKS+DATA when jumping from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa ROMS without issue. Love it, love it.
fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I have been cycling between the 2 a LOT here is what i have found works. when you select to restore all apps/data look through the list and uncheck all the 2.1 system apps (ie checkin_update 2.1, google_search_update 2.1) once you do this you can restore everything else no problem. I have used ths method at least 10 times with no issues back and forth. If you backed up on 2.2 do the same thing just uncheck the 2.2 version of this information.
Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?
berardi said:
Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?
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titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.
timothydonohue said:
titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.
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Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?
How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.
XevoX said:
How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.
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Should only take 5 minutes or so, about as long as it takes to flash a new ROM.
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Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?
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Yes, but it could potentially be problematic to just start restoring things in bulk from a TB backup between different ROMs, even if they are the same base build. Read flipz's rant on the subject.
Just a little confused about restoring after wiping and flashing ROM. I will have Nandroid and Titanium backups. What do I restore. I'm assuming the Nandroid is for reverting back and the Titanium apps+data is what I want to use with the new ROM. Sorry if this is dumb but I don't want to screw this process up!
I've also posted about running UnrevokedForever first or not. I just don't like that it can't be undone. I understand that I can still upgrade the radio to 2.05 and flash a custom 2.2 ROM but is this not a good idea? Am I much better off applying s-off and going that route and using the newer radio?
Thanks for all the great help................mm
You use Titanium to get all your user apps back on your phone without having to go to the market and reloading them one at a time. Nandroid is what you use when things go crash, boom, bang, and you have to go backward to fix things. Hope that's understandable.
That's what I thought. Thanks!
I have been rooted and flashed 15-20 roms all flawless until today, when I had one that failed, TGF cwm recovery, I was abel to recover my backup, but does this not restore it to original rom (meaning with setting, theams etc) If not is there a program out there that will back up your desktop as is, because its a pain to reinstall and set everything up again, espicaly if you are reverting to a backup of a rom. resign it resetup keyboard, theam etc.
Im not a noob just one to clock work restore.
Thanks in advance
It completly restores everything. I use it all the time to flash back to my daily driver. Desktop, Web pages, call Logs, SMS messages, all get restored.
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I have been rooted and flashed 15-20 roms all flawless until today, when I had one that failed, TGF cwm recovery, I was abel to recover my backup, but does this not restore it to original rom (meaning with setting, theams etc) If not is there a program out there that will back up your desktop as is, because its a pain to reinstall and set everything up again, espicaly if you are reverting to a backup of a rom. resign it resetup keyboard, theam etc.
Im not a noob just one to clock work restore.
Thanks in advance
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if you made a nandroid it restores EVERYTHING back to the way it was...including the themes, keyboard, apps whatever it is...idk what you did, but it certainly wasn't a nandroid or else everything would have been restored
there is no currently no method other than a nandroid that works flawlessly
setting up homescreens and themes over again are a way of life when you flash new roms
it sucks...but whatever...if you dont like it, dont flash new roms (not directed at you...im saying in general)
robandcathy said:
I have been rooted and flashed 15-20 roms all flawless until today, when I had one that failed, TGF cwm recovery, I was abel to recover my backup, but does this not restore it to original rom (meaning with setting, theams etc) If not is there a program out there that will back up your desktop as is, because its a pain to reinstall and set everything up again, espicaly if you are reverting to a backup of a rom. resign it resetup keyboard, theam etc.
Im not a noob just one to clock work restore.
Thanks in advance
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There must be something wrong with your backup because when you restore a backup, it restores exactly how it was saved. Meaning that if you backed it up once you had everything set up already then it would have restored with everything already set up. That includes settings,themes,apps and even widgets. So unless your backup is before you set everything up then there is something wrong.
ok guess this is a noob question then, nandroid and cwm backup the same? because I use cwm as my backup option because it works on kernal level, or at least before os loads, so I assumed this would be good enough. Running the most current version of CWM.
EDIT ok stupid me for not doing a google search, got my answer, which raises another question can cwm and nandroid co exist from the little bit I read both require hard keypresses at boot along with the phones own hard key patter. MAn if I ever felt stupid I do now lol. Kept reading about nandroid but thought it was CWM
Edit 2 after wanting to do a deeper look into nandroid brings me back to CWM
Is there a cwm forum because its not on there main web site so I can bother them about this?
Cwm works perfect for me.
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ok guess this is a noob question then, nandroid and cwm backup the same? because I use cwm as my backup option because it works on kernal level, or at least before os loads, so I assumed this would be good enough. Running the most current version of CWM.
EDIT ok stupid me for not doing a google search, got my answer, which raises another question can cwm and nandroid co exist from the little bit I read both require hard keypresses at boot along with the phones own hard key patter. MAn if I ever felt stupid I do now lol. Kept reading about nandroid but thought it was CWM
Edit 2 after wanting to do a deeper look into nandroid brings me back to CWM
Is there a cwm forum because its not on there main web site so I can bother them about this?
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The best way to go is go to recovery, then go to back up and restore, select back up, wait until finished, and then reboot system and you are set.
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I always backup to internal havent had errors that way. Only if backed up to external is when i get errors
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ok guess this is a noob question then, nandroid and cwm backup the same? because I use cwm as my backup option because it works on kernal level, or at least before os loads, so I assumed this would be good enough. Running the most current version of CWM.
EDIT ok stupid me for not doing a google search, got my answer, which raises another question can cwm and nandroid co exist from the little bit I read both require hard keypresses at boot along with the phones own hard key patter. MAn if I ever felt stupid I do now lol. Kept reading about nandroid but thought it was CWM
Edit 2 after wanting to do a deeper look into nandroid brings me back to CWM
Is there a cwm forum because its not on there main web site so I can bother them about this?
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I believe cwm backups and nandroids are interchangeable terms now. It was probably different in the past when using different backup methods but they have the same purpose.. which is an exact backup of you device.
I'm currently running 4.1.2 on my GN. When I do a CWR backup, it runs really quick, almost too quick when completing the backup. When I go in root explorer to check the size of the backup, it's really small. My questions is that when you do a backup using CWR, does it back up? I thought it would backup the whole device or current ROM right? Am I missing something?
Thanks
Backup feature of latest cwm versions is incremental. Each time you backup, it will backup stuff that was changed after the last one. Seems a bit like git, in a way.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Backup feature of latest cwm versions is incremental. Each time you backup, it will backup stuff that was changed after the last one. Seems a bit like git, in a way.
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Thanks for the info. I just wanted to make sure that if something happened and I needed to restore my ROM, everything would be restored with no problem.